Avatar: The Way of Water - RDA returns to Pandora (HDR - 4K - 5.1)

[@FlyingFocs]

What I love about this especially is that it shows how LUDICROUSLY powerful the engines have to be in order to achieve spaceflight and how that affects the surroundings. Feels epic, and in the classical sense.

[@WaylandYT]

It was an inspired choice to show us the landing sequence previously kept off screen. Ever since we saw the ships in space in the first movie it's been something I always felt was missing.

[@WheelsRCool]

@@WaylandYT I don't know for sure, but reading the backstory for the original film, the impression given was that the interstellar capable ships were not supposed to land, their purpose was to remain in outer space and the shuttles would be used to ferry people up and down from planets and moons.

[@tytoalbasoren9457]

​@@WheelsRCoolSince this takes place 14 yrs after the 1st one, they probably retrofitted a few ships to do such landings. Also, 14 years later and they still haven't made the cockpit glass on the gunships arrow proof? Do they not learn or smt, like dafuq?

[@thijmentjroelofsenroelofse9169]

Also that humans are the invasive alien species with very humanlike technology👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@ultralaggerREV1]

The ISV Venture Star must have really powerful nuclear engines. It can’t be anti-matter engines otherwise it could blow up the entire planet

[@cringelord1809]

When humans are the bad guys in a movie you can rest assured that we will be presented in all our badassery.

[@captainjackpugh6050]

Not necessarily. We were very badass in this movie, despite clearly being the good guys

[@natonews2151]

​@@captainjackpugh6050cope harder

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

And when we are the Good guys we are still badass! Humans are just badass period.

[@LisaAnn777]

Humans are the good guys, all they want to do is save Earth.

[@Racconfly]

why this comment at 399 likes? lemme fix that

[@jaegermann4170]

It appears Jake forgot a very important piece of information that he himself should have known; the indomitable human spirit

[@videon6134]

You're also forgetting that his brother worked for the rda he should've known better than to assume they would've given up after one defeat.

[@Comando729]

Nah he forgot about shareholder positions

[@craigmenear-lordofqualityp507]

Oh yeah and human spite. Oh my beloved, self-perpetuating human spite.

[@artloverivy]

You’re applying the indomitable human spirit to imperialism? Really?

[@Brennan204]

@@artloverivyalien lover

[@sangbum60090]

"Possession of this galaxy is mankind's birthright. The stars are ours for the taking."

[@RandyLannister]

Ameeeeen!!!DEUS VULT!!!

[@cinemaclips4497]

Hail the emperor

[@cardinal-ducderichelieu1362]

For the emperor !

[@jimliu2560]

Manifest destiny

[@Nykandros]

It is not our birthright. No one has any birthright, and inheritance is a lie. Everything is open to he who has enough might to take it.

[@agitator.exe01]

"And it was said that human patriotism grew ten times that day."

[@mitkoogrozev]

It did grow...if my patriotism chart had negative numbers on it :D.

[@agitator.exe01]

@@mitkoogrozev traitor

[@yodamorpheus3128]

@@mitkoogrozevtotal bligger death

[@mitkoogrozev]

@@agitator.exe01 I'm as much a ''traitor'' as I am for not siding with Hitler. It's about what you do, not who you are. No loyalty to anyone who crosses a line.

[@agitator.exe01]

@@mitkoogrozev Difference between Hitler and Quaritch is that Quaritch was actually right when saying the na'vi weren't human. no amount of alien cheeks is worth dooming your species to a dying world, my guy.

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

This scene was amazing to see in IMAX. The sound design really rumbled the theater and made the scene all the more immersive

[@tytoalbasoren9457]

Especially at 0:16 0:47 and 0:54. It literally vibrated my chest like holy shit.

[@christianvennemann9008]

This, especially with that music. Just chef's kiss in IMAX 3D

[@Desk_Neck_]

comatosed girl

[@AndrewJames45]

Cgi bullshit

[@TropikEmpire]

I theater I went to had giant heaters blow for a few seconds as well during the RDA invasion so everyone got blasted with a wave of hot air. One of the best movies I’ve ever seen in IMAX

[@jeanmouloude]

"look how evil and destructive humans are" everyone in the theatres "holy shit this is so cool"

[@epaminon6196]

Cameron's biggest mistake in the Avatar movies: Produce a film that paints the target audience (humans) in a very bad way. There's a reason why anti-capitalist movies don't become wide-spread favorites in America.

[@raharbour388]

@@epaminon6196 2.5billions dollars mistake.

[@theendisnear6351]

​​@@raharbour388And yet, who loves Avatar for its story, or its messages? People love it for the tech, the visuals, and Pandora. If Cameron is actually serious about what he preaches, then Avatar was indeed a multibillion dollar mistake.

[@doge8825]

@@theendisnear6351umm I do. Not so much the first movie but the story and message in WoW was awesome and honestly trumps the visuals for me

[@goose4113]

Let the exterminatis begin

[@acebubbles5023]

the venture star is easily one of the best sci-do ships brought onto the big screen. It had so much thought put into it even tho it was only on screen for like less than a minute in the original film

[@nuckerball1259]

Thats why we appreciate james cameron

[@WheelsRCool]

Now if only he had put similar such thought into the plot and dialogue.

[@Bananakingchad]

@@WheelsRCoolfr he’s writing is actual hot garbage humanity Num 1 humanity birthright is the galaxy and eventually the universe

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

@@Bananakingchad Avatar and Avatar II (Pocahontas in space and moby dick in space) are another case of messaging failure. They try to lecture the viewers on "humanity bad blah blah blah" and they achieve the opposite.

[@RHM2116]

These Ships Are Not The Venture Star, These Ships Are Modified Versions Of It, Replacing Modules Where Passengers Enter Cryogenic Sleep By a lander, then these space stations divide into parts before their entry into the atmosphere, starting from the Valkyries to her mirrors One of them is ISV Manifest Destiny

[@chiokill1754]

The Emperor approves of this action.

[@bauti2112]

Humanity first

[@thanos_6.0]

Purge the Xenos!

[@txrwauy]

Suffer not the xenos to live.

[@joweeqc98]

Purging with my kin!

[@zoeadkins9095]

My armor is contempt! My shield is disgust! My sword is hatred! In the Emperor's name, Let none survive!

[@mauser98kar]

I know they aren't the guys we are suppose to be rooting for, but that was cool. A patented "humanity F yeah!" moment.

[@EchoTravelsUSA]

Meh, I was rooting for them 😂

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

we aren't suposed to?

[@IsbjisEubsbue]

​@@ancaplanaoriginal5303simping for the RDA isn't rooting for humanity. The RDA is sniffling innovation back on Earth and is basically the source of all problems if you read the background lore.

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

@@IsbjisEubsbue the RDA are the ones bringing room temperature superconductors back to earth to design the tech needed to clean the environment of Earth. They are the good guys.

[@IsbjisEubsbue]

@ancaplanaoriginal5303 sorry but the whole "humanity needs unobtanium as energy source to survive" is blatant BS when they can send city-sized lighthuggers to other star systems using more energy than human civilization has ever consumed up to that point. Plus, they've been stifling the production of synthetic unobtainium by other corporations because they want to have a monopoly on it. From the Avatar Wiki: > The company's early expeditions to Pandora were seen as a colossal risk; the construction of the ISV Venture Star in the late 21st century alone put enormous strain on capital resources, but with exclusive mining rights to unobtanium (which is valued at 20 million dollars per kilogram raw and 40 million dollars processed), and potential profits from countervirals, biofuels, and cosmetics, the enormous capital investment has paid off.[3] The RDA then began to suppress Terran alternatives for unobtanium, which created a black market for the substance which helped to fund terrorist groups.

[@thedoctor4327]

I was disappointed this was the only scene in which AMP Suits were prominent. They’re one of my favorite fictional mech suits alongside BT from Titanfall, the Power Loader from Aliens and the Mantis from Halo

[@moparty4409]

Scorch for life

[@nathankovoor223]

I really liked those AMP suits!

[@ahrimanahrimanovich2302]

For me they look same as mech in Matrix movies.

[@LordCommander-ui2fw]

True, but you have to admit that, given how the primary locale of this movie was a tropical/aquatic environment, there's a good reason the AMPs were sidelined in favor of lighter or more specialized Exosuits.

[@TropikEmpire]

@@ahrimanahrimanovich2302man!!! I never noticed that!!!

[@TitanWuzTaken]

Ahhh. Gotta love when the heroes come in to save the day!

[@methlokaijufan9729]

You mean *villains...

[@TitanWuzTaken]

no, I really don't.

[@methlokaijufan9729]

@@TitanWuzTaken Yes you do

[@TitanWuzTaken]

No, I really don't.

[@methlokaijufan9729]

@@TitanWuzTaken Yes you really do

[@powerflumi]

Its always nice to see when in a movie the good guys make their entry

[@TitanWuzTaken]

Couldn't agree more.

[@blockmasterscott]

I approve of this message! 👍🤣

[@hermannabt8361]

I played Klendathu Drop over this scene. It fits perfectly.

[@TitanWuzTaken]

Good man.

[@blockmasterscott]

@@hermannabt8361 You were doing your part!

[@Cultureghost]

“Tell me, Jakey boy, did you think your little plot was going to hold back the tide? We sent you to the natives to negotiate, to establish peace. Instead, not only did you fail utterly, you lead them to war. You started this fight when you choose the embrace of one Navi over saving the lives of billions of men, women, and children on Earth. So know that when we clash once more in battle, when “your” people feel the heat of thermonuclear warheads, when the oceans are stained red with blood, when ash falls like the first snow, know that it was your choice that made it so. See you soon, Jakey boy.” -Colonel Millena Quaritch, from a very different version of Avatar

[@shift_register7431]

Nice.

[@pinkpenzu]

Fucking badass

[@Z5-XB]

Basically if avatar was realistic. Seriously in the final battle the Navi air and land forces should’ve been shredded while barely taking down and human vehicles or soldiers. Banshees would be shot down before they can even reach RDA aircraft and on land SecOps infantry and AMP suits should easily shred Navi land forces. Even those titanhore rhinos should’ve had their horns shattered by constant 30mm AMP suit fire.

[@LittleJuanKenobi]

Is this from something or did you just make it up? Cool quote either way

[@Cultureghost]

@@LittleJuanKenobi A spontaneous reimagining of mine

[@quazar5017]

It's so mindblowing no movie I remember really explored the fact that a starship, that can sustain 1.5g acceleration for months upon months also can land without breaking a sweat.

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

LoL, a sustained 1.5G acceleration is nothing.

[@estebansingh9411]

​@@ancaplanaoriginal5303For a structure that big and massive, coupled with the thermal loads it really is something, and that's without taking into account space debris hitting you at those speeds

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

@@estebansingh9411 the space debris thing is fixed by carrying multiple ablative shields that advance in front of the ship. IIRC

[@estebansingh9411]

@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 most of it yeah, but you still have small particles slipping through every now and then and they add up

[@quazar5017]

​@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 I am shure they can build a faster spaceship, but what's the point? It is sufficient for maneuvering and landing, they reach their maximum cruising speed of 0.7c in about half a year before coasting for 6 years and they have awake crew on board, who have to sustain the high acceleration.

[@RushyPi]

no other scene like this exists anywhere out there, this scene on cinema was a masterpiece, I literally had goosebumps

[@legion5938]

Exactly the whole cinema was vibrating from the sound effects and when i was looking around at others reactions everyone was amazed. It was such an amazing scene sad,scary but amazing

[@kooster8656]

gotta be Star Wars rogue one darth Vader hallway scene for me

[@HwangInhoBooNam]

You mean the humans being the invasive faction in other planets? Yeah, definitely

[@sam23696]

I don't think it's seen anything on this scale done in a near future humanity setting. The technological power on display here is something only a true nerd can appreciate. If you're not thinking about the orbital mechanics and raw power needed for a brute force landing like this then it's probably not as interesting.

[@KiithNaabal]

yeah...the entire destruction is just indirect but you can still feel the impact. These trees are hunders of meters high, but are being washed away by a wave fire just caused by the exhaust heat of the engines....you can literally feel the shock an awe in this scene.

[@darkknight8643]

I love it when the heroes lose the first battle but return to win the war.

[@joaquinalvarez5301]

HUMANITY FIRST!!!

[@aaronschrenk-bh7hv]

TERRA INVICTA!

[@simonnot8487]

Earth must come first!

[@IluminousOne-9.7.2]

*Humans suck* -This post was made by actually wise aliens gang

[@tommykaung5882]

Just like Malevolent Creed in Helldivers 2.

[@Tuberuser187]

"There is no such thing as an unarmed Interstellar ship"

[@thefederalrepublicoferusea3900]

Isaac arthur my beloved

[@Technobabylon]

@@thefederalrepublicoferusea3900 Also Larry Niven - the Kzinti made the mistake of thinking that, because the human ship didn't carry weapons, it wasn't a threat - then it turned its engines to face them. So, they tried to attack human worlds, who promptly turned the lasers (used to accelerate solar-sail craft) around

[@hazmatt3250]

James Cameron: “noooo you can’t like the human faction they’re evil.” The entire audience: “haha nuclear engine go brrrr.”

[@sangbum60090]

antimatter engine actually

[@Lord-Murugan..724]

Fucking james Cameron is so evil 😂😂😂😂😂

[@artloverivy]

Weird flex to admit you’re a psychopath but okay 😂

[@wilhufftarkin5852]

​@@artloverivyPsychopath? Massive tech is ckeary superior to blue monkeys.

[@touncreativetomakeaname5873]

@@artloverivybro is angry that his team only has bows and spears and has yet to have entered the Bronze Age

[@MTF-ALPHA1]

Plot aside. We all know in real life the Na’vi are fucking obliterated

[@IlyaDemidov]

First Avatar had a whole page designated to the interstellar ship (whatever their name is) and how neatly it was designed. And it was. Everything in it was logical. But now we burn freaking anti-matter engines in the atmosphere and drop an orbital lift full of evil robot man. JFC. This is the only sequence I will ever watch in this movie. Imagine dropping anti-matter bomb from the orbit and mine whatever you want from a crater.

[@MTF-ALPHA1]

@@IlyaDemidov I mean to be fair it’s advanced earth. I don’t know what to tell you, it’s what we’re literally capable of. We just don’t really do it because we need that unobtanium.

[@IlyaDemidov]

@@MTF-ALPHA1 You misunderstood me. Beleive me I know what people do to each other. Ukrainian war (the war in my country) started because of gas in city of Slovyansk. I meant: imagine what would happen if one would burn anti matter engine in the atmosphere. Oppenheimer would have a word.

[@ButchersNailsEnjoyer]

I do like how Jake despite living on pandora for maybe decades still uses a rifle over a bow

[@nicolarighetto3767]

@@IlyaDemidov During the time humanity was relegated back to earth, they repurposed part of the ISV Fleet as what you see, literally gigantic skycranes capable of deorbiting, clearing a landing zone, drop a huge cargo pod with AMPs, soldiers, construction materials and supplies and then come back to orbit again, all in one go. Unobtanium is the perfect plot material to let it do whatever you want, but it still kind of make sense in scientific terms

[@MalfunctioningAndroid]

Boys are back in town.

[@AshtonCoolman]

"...you will remain in your trees, hunting your prey, communing with your goddess, until your sun burns out and your world dies. And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us."

[@retro6294]

@@AshtonCoolman And I will feed on your human souls....

[@raharbour388]

Soundtrack here is so excellent. Its pompous, big, and when the forest got destroyed, music got those Damocles Sword notes of doom. Perfection and also reminded me Walking with Dinosaurs OST.

[@PimHakkie]

I was in the theaters watching in 3D IMAX. The sound of these engines roaring through the entire room was the coolest thing I have ever heard. I'm so sad I cannot experience that again.

[@nationalfederationofcalradia]

just watch it again

[@EarlOfLemongrabb]

I loved the sheer scale of those huge starships and these containers getting deployed 1:22. Just shows you the scale of the invasion and the amount of people transported to Pandora

[@nuclearnuclear8101]

Seeing this in cinema was an experience.

[@christianvennemann9008]

Especially in IMAX 3D. The sound was immense. The rumbling reverberated throughout the theater and the bodies of all the people there

[@gj9157]

It was amazing in 4DX

[@mr_clean91]

"Let the seas boil, let the stars fall" -Horus Lupercal

[@marinesinspace6253]

"I never wanted this Jake, I never wanted to unleash my marines."

[@omarbaba9892]

James Cameron made the RDA far too cool for his cliche message to be taken seriously😂

[@garrettjackson1451]

Still I understand his message that he is trying to give if we don’t get our shit together

[@dscorpio1626]

The earth is running outta resources. Even with this it's pretty much a last ditch effort to save humanity and if this all they could come up with just shows u how fucked everything is on earth. This is a response to losing control; and yet this is everything.

[@garrettjackson1451]

@@dscorpio1626 ya this is what happens when human incompetence becalmed too incompetent

[@dscorpio1626]

@@garrettjackson1451 doesn't matter. We need more we get more. Simple logic. Animals do the same thing, deer will consume until there is no more and kill themselves off if they don't spread out. And unless we find predators or psychotic people to control numbers. The stars are ours for the taking. Free for the taking.

[@mitkoogrozev]

Not really, they look horrific. I despise their actions with a burning passion, since it represents the shitty things humans do in reality , times 11 . And the x11 comes from their higher energy technology. The humans themselves, psychologically are either similar to real life humans or even too 'good' . Real humans I've seen are a lot more nefarious, so how shitty they can be is even lacking in representation in this movie :D. It's probably because of the PG-13 rating.

[@Tallacus]

To me the ISVs and their Valkyrie shuttles are the real stars of this franchise, this is one of those movies where I actually root for humanity and the amazing thing is we can actually achieve to build something like the Anti Matter rockets of the ISVs now that we discovered that Anti Matter is far more abundant in the universe then we originally thought, heck the Earth creates it as well through thunderstorms. Amazing what we can achieve if we were more focused on building those then say keeping the rich, rich and funding pointless wars.

[@desertdude8274]

I always root for Humanity in avatar. If we have the capability to hit the stars and travel to other world's then you can't expect me to believe we are somehow not worth saving. We could achieve what possibly most other life in the Galaxy or universe could not.

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

@@desertdude8274 like FR, humanity in Avatar is what, 100.000 years old? and they have already visit another star system on a regular basis. The Na'vi are 12 million years old as a race and they haven't evolved past the fucking bow and arrow because they listen to a fucking tree which simply buffers the voices of their dead ancestors.

[@greypilgrim228]

@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 And the Na'vi are matriarchal, if we've learned anything on earth it's that matriarchal societies never progress, just digress or remain stagnant while patriarchal societies compete with each other and make alliances in the struggle for dominance, thus furthering technology, science and their societies progression, as well as it's mastery over resources and environment. The Na'vi by rights, wouldn't stand the flimsiest chances in hell had they not held the plot armour. The humans would have had automatic weapons, anti armour, anti tanks etc. everywhere on their base and at checkpoints as they progressed, building colonies, arterial highways, transit hubs, military installations and pushing back the Na'vi at every moment of the film.

[@legil2954]

Nah, not just a tree. Do you remember where the soul tree is (or was) located? That’s right, above a giant cache of room-temperature superconductor. What does a superconductor do? Real simple - it makes electricity go faster. And now, the twist: with what do plants communicate? Right, with fucking electricity. Small, real small charges of it, which, just in theory, could be accelerated by superconductor, thus turning plants into a primitive version of a hive-mind. Yup, that’s right - Eywa isn’t a mythological being, nor a goddess. It’s just a LOT of plants forming some kind of a brain, thanks to Unobtanium.

[@klade5031]

@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 Earliest hominids are around 6-7 million years old but yes, humanity proper really shifted into high gear within the last 100,000 years or so.

[@Mysticleo42]

Absolutely amazing scene, filling the audience with dread as the army of AMP suits marches down the ramp onto the planet. Gives me hella Attack of the Clones vibes tbh lol

[@kgjekdl]

Dread? You mean nationalism.

[@hazmatt3250]

@@kgjekdlDID SOMEONE SAY DEMOCRACY?!

[@artloverivy]

@@hazmatt3250You don’t know what democracy actually means, do you? 😂

[@EvgeneXI]

Dread? It’s spelt H O P E. Glorium Humanitatus. The stars belong to us.

[@CaptainSovereign]

"A human galaxy is a safe galaxy"

[@ff3player]

Humanity First

[@artloverivy]

@@ff3playerPsychopath.

[@retro6294]

@@CaptainSovereign You mean a boring galaxy.

[@orangecitrus8056]

@@retro6294 Xeno phile detected

[@retro6294]

@@orangecitrus8056 And?

[@jacobcg5489]

James Cameron shouldn't have made the RDA so badass if he didnt want me to root for them. Humanity first!!!... Always and Forever!

[@joaquinalvarez5301]

HUMANITY FIRST!!!

[@zir456]

Facts😂☠️

[@artloverivy]

He made them pretty evil. The problem is you’re a psychopath who thinks evil is cool so… It’s more an issue with your moral compass than the filmmakers.

[@KRUGERMANN]

@@artloverivy average alien fan who hates human :

[@artloverivy]

@@KRUGERMANN Where did I say I hate humans? I hate evil, regardless of who is conducting it. Try again ❤️

[@pauldickinson3961]

"I fear that we have done nothing but to awaken a sleeping giant, and fill him with a terrible resolve." -Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto

[@Thunderchild-gz4gc]

He never said that. That's from Tora! Tora! Tora!

[@pauldickinson3961]

​​@Thunderchild-gz4gc Meh, still goes hard. He also firmly believed that Japan could not win a prolonged war with the United States.

[@GeorgeThoughts]

Such a cool scene to see in the cinema. You don't often see spacecraft decelerating "properly" in movies, although I'm sure these ion engines are on backwards? I also think it must be very very expensive, fuel-wise, to lower your entire ship into the atmosphere to hover and drop off a pod with a rope? Just give the pod its own engines and parachutes...

[@adamnottelling1686]

ig if its a super-efficient engine, then taking the whole ship down might spend less fuel than lugging around a whole extra descent stage

[@리정우-w3g]

They are anti matter engines, and the ISVs in the movie use a hybrid system of laser propelled sails and anti matter engines to move around.

[@deathsinger1192]

@@adamnottelling1686 the engine is about 99,999999999% efficient

[@Sammy_82]

I kinda like it when scifi movies and shows are accurate. Reminds me of The Expanse.

[@mauser98kar]

The likely point was to defoliate large area so the settlement would be easier to build and protect.

[@SamA-cy8eu]

This scene was so cool, really goes to show how brilliant the humans are for being able to utilize a engine system for travelling between stars to create a security perimeter from the hostile wildlife, clear the area for Base Construction and also to deploy a large force rapidly.

[@_MaZTeR_]

I like how the destruction of the Home Tree seemed like a major thing in the first film and here these space craft just annihilate two of them in an instant like it was nothing, as if humanity could just commit exterminatus on the whole moon if they didn't plan on colonizing it.

[@anhtuanle7089]

They can just throw some rocks from orbit then let gravity do the rest, it is cost efficient

[@kingfairytale4306]

We absolutely could Exterminatus the planet, we can mass produce anti matter at this point in the movies! Making a planet killer anti-matter bomb should be a walk in the park!

[@HwangInhoBooNam]

@@kingfairytale4306you are mistaking Star Wars with Avatar buddy

[@kingfairytale4306]

@@HwangInhoBooNam No, seriously, in the canon avatar novels, it is stated that the RDA can already mass produce antimatter on an industrial scale.

[@robosoldier11]

@@kingfairytale4306RDA clearly pulling their punches. It does feel silly they keep incorporating tech that feels worse than the original film. Like instead of the walkers with a heavy cannon they went with. Weird unarmored stilt exo skeleton? Just seems silly.

[@MasterKen1803]

1:45 AMP-suit pilot: Alright, ladies, let’s bring the pain.

[@visionist7]

Meals on wheels

[@julianweiser9985]

Achievement unlocked: Radiation 100

[@bloodygekkon]

😂

[@Nnneemo]

That's why they need buldozers to reach uncontaminated soil deep enough.

[@taskagentzenith789]

The engineering must be so damn amazing behind these spaceships!

[@IlyaDemidov]

There is an official page for it. Look it up it is a really cool read. It does not make any sense in 2nd movie, but it does for the first one.

[@petrpodskalsky1785]

@@IlyaDemidov It really isn't as unbelievable as some people make it out to be. Yes, the Capital stars are in no way optimised for atmospheric flight, and would definitely burn up if they approached the atmosphere at orbital velocity. However, they are also equipped with the most powerful and efficient engines theoretically achievable under known physics. They can accelerate the massive structure at 1.5 G for months. This renders entry heating a non-issue, since they can just kill all of their velocity and very gently descend, under just enough thrust to remain under tension. The fact that the structure can handle 1.5Gs also means that the Pandora's 0.8Gs of gravity shouldn't be a problem either. Now, the real problem is the engines themselves. the engine plume is basically a gigantic gamma ray laser with some leftover particles mixed in. This is problematic enough in vacuum, but a whole new disaster inside the atmosphere, since now not only radiation, but also convection and conduction is a thing. At anywhere near max capacity, them engines would create a continent sized nuclear fireball, desintegrating the ship instantly. however, there is a way to make this work. the engines themselves use cascade annihilation, in which baryons (protons and antiprotons) decay first, but the leftovers then also annihilate to achieve maximum theoretical efficiency of near 100% matter-energy conversion. This means that the propellant is hydrogen and the fuel is antihydrogen. We also know that capital stars have an afterburner, through which they can inject extra hydrogen to trade efficiency for thrust. Now, hypothetically, if you wanted to land a ship with such a drive, you could annihilate just a tiny amount of antiprotons, but then inject an obscene amount of reaction mass through the afterburner. This would make the drive terribly inefficient, but it could possibly run cold enough to be usable in the atmosphere. Maybe. the key is, it is not complete nonsense. It's just a little nonsense, but for science fiction this is, at least for me, nowhere near my limit of suspending disbelief.

[@IlyaDemidov]

@@petrpodskalsky1785 Sorry, I have engineering degree so I did not read your wall of text. Thanks.

[@Jdne199311]

To old civilizations, a new Star was a bad omen, to the Navi, it really is.

[@Pirouyy]

Navi in Avatar 1 : Yay, we won, take that humans ! Humans landing a normal-ass sized ship a few years later : 1:02

[@MrHappyboy-fg9rj]

Navi aliens 😂😂😂 are the worst losers and super human ❤❤❤😊😊 is the real winner of all time

[@MrHappyboy-fg9rj]

You born mental you and worst Navi aliens could take the poop after losing to humans in real life battle noy cinema 😂😂😂😂😂

[@anhtuanle7089]

Wonder what will it be if it not a cargo ship but a war space ship

[@chandlerbing1800]

@@MrHappyboy-fg9rjNa’vi are basically Cameron’s rendition of the T’au

[@Lord-Murugan..724]

You brainless born mental worst fellow and Navi will take a dump like you and Navi are the real losers and particularly super human ❤❤❤❤❤😊😊 is the real winner of all time in the entire universe ❤❤❤😊😊

[@minagola6950]

0:07 when i saw this in imax i immediately knew this movie was gonna be epic

[@jamesharding3459]

It's nice visually but has no depth.

[@Vsm426]

​@@jamesharding3459 why are you talking about deph?

[@jamesharding3459]

​@@Vsm426 In discussing works of fiction, "depth" is a catch-all term for plot, character writing, and general quality of writing. Both Avatar films looked nice, but the writing sucked and the plot was utterly fucking stupid. Clearer?

[@Vsm426]

​@@jamesharding3459 sheut fam that's all you gotta say

[@negativezero8174]

"Enemies of the Imperium hear me, you have come here to die. The Immortal Emperor is with us and we are invincible."

[@denzelpardillo1181]

Just noticed that the large container platofrms actually have underslung defensive guns beneath them. 1:37.

[@isexuallyidentifyasanapach4720]

Glad to see the good guys are back!

[@retro6294]

@isexuallyidentifyasanapach4720 Why do you want this invasion force to win so badly? All they care about is their next shot of whiskey. And they would sell you and me into slavery for a cigarette.

[@retro6294]

@@isexuallyidentifyasanapach4720 How are they the good guys? They don't strike me as lovers of mankind.

[@RageAgainstTheDyingOfTheLight7]

​@@retro6294 your correct there a evil corporation but in this act there is nothing wrong Humanity needs a new home

[@agniteyt]

The things that held me back from screaming *HUMANITY HELL YEAH!* In the theatres...

[@North_Of_Nowhere]

Just need one of the mech pilots to say "Xenos scum" and were golden

[@jerryphillips6593]

It’s funny the movie try’s to paint humans as the antagonist but we are rooting for them as we all collectively agree humanity comes first.

[@zacharykoplin6543]

Long Live Humanity! Humanity Above All! Humanity Supreme!

[@rolletroll2338]

I was looking for a scene like this since i saw the deleted scene of the ISV Venture star's departure at the end of the 1 rst movie. I was not disappointed. This is the most glorious thing I have witnessed on screen.

[@retro6294]

@rolletroll2338 To me it was the most boring.

[@SgtAndrewM]

Best protagonist entrance ever

[@Liverator]

Avatar Fans: “It’s not plot armor, Jake is just a tactical genius and the humans are greedy and evil.” Also Avatar Fans: “OMG!!! I love how their landing gear is more destructive than a nuke and destroys the surrounding area, but luckily they didn’t land on top of the known location of the Navi!!”

[@joshuaquirante5893]

Humans are greeedy yet in this film, it shows how less greedy humans are than what we perceived.

[@venmis137]

Idk about anyone else, but I like Avatar but when I watch it I always root for the humans. And yeah, it is plot armor.

[@GlamorousTitanic21]

When this scene came on we cheered in the theater 😎

[@wilhufftarkin5852]

I love the smell of burning Xenos in the morining. It smells like ... victory.

[@artloverivy]

Did you root for the aliens in Independence Day?

[@wilhufftarkin5852]

@@artloverivy Of course not. I root for the Humans, always

[@artloverivy]

@@wilhufftarkin5852 So you have no logical consistency regarding the ethics of WHY a conflict is happening? You just blindly follow one side, regardless of whether what they’re doing is justifiable or not? Okay lol 🐑

[@wilhufftarkin5852]

@@artloverivy Yes of course. I am human, so I always side with the humans agaisnt xenos.

[@artloverivy]

@@wilhufftarkin5852 So your problem with the Nazis wasn’t their ideology, it was simply that they had chosen other humans as their victims. Had the Nazis enacted their evil upon an alien species you would have zero problem with them. That’s pretty insane ngl. You’ve got issues.

[@MikMoen]

When Aliens are invading Earth: "They're Monsters!" When Humans are the Alien Invaders: "God we love being Monsters!"

[@techypriest7523]

We’re the giants now

[@Lord-Murugan..724]

You are the worst ever clown 😂😂😂

[@Lord-Murugan..724]

You are worst ever worthless clown alien 😂😂😂😂😂

[@WaveForceful]

@@MikMoen I feel that way if humans were invading a planet of monsters like in starship troopers but the Navi are no malicious or malevolent. The humans have just come and started strip mining the planet and torching it because they just damn well feel like it.

[@RageAgainstTheDyingOfTheLight7]

Yeah Humanity is always right if I was a alien I'd support the aliens our ethics dont apply to aliens just like theres dont apply to us

[@billythekid1638]

We will make humanity great again! Humanity first

[@Swindle1984]

"And above your tomb, the stars will be ours."

[@JacobAndJamal]

The beginning of this movie made me wish for a space/technology Cameron movie without the fantastical planet and creatures. Like the best parts of Alien/Aliens/Terminator 1&2 .

[@ultralaggerREV1]

The damn spaceship thrusters obliterated an entire forest 💀

[@AverageWagie-2025]

They're only aliens. No Earth lives were lost so its all good.

[@retro6294]

@@ultralaggerREV1 It was pointless.

[@RageAgainstTheDyingOfTheLight7]

​@@retro6294 I see we both have too much time on our hands

[@imaencuru]

Love how they step out into an area that has just been absolutely cooked with not just heat, but every other kind of radiation too. That landing is probably measured in H-bombs per second, and while the AMP suits might have some protection (pretty sure they don't) the regular groundpounders definitely don't.

[@letitgob4ugethurt666]

This planet is humans property, it's inevitable. This may just be a private security of a company but the armed forces of the human race is coming in the next episode. So it is inevitable.

[@phammanh2689]

No it is not their property. Imagine i got so hungry, i take a gun, go into a restaurant and claim this is my place now, make me the food? Stfu. If human are capable of interstellar travel, they can easily make a Dyson Swarm and use that energy to make Earth habitable again. But since you colonizers have limited vision into the future, so the only result you could think is kill an entire sentient species :)) brilliant.

[@Timberwolftrass]

oh yeah, some great property... the wildlife is trying to kill us at every opportunity (way worse than Australia even) and we can't even breathe the very air because its toxic and would kill us too... oh yeah, that's some real prime real estate there

[@PsychoCivic-yw5sp]

​@@phammanh2689 If no one, resteraunt owner or government, had the power to stop you. It is yours now. You've conquered the place.

[@phammanh2689]

@@PsychoCivic-yw5sp Average colonizers reason to purge a race of sentient being. Fuck off

[@MALOK003]

RDA more iconic than the empire at this point

[@kyodairiker]

Their technology is arguably way cooler since the vast majority of it is technology we may very well see in the future.

[@graysoceanworld5662]

When the Okefenokee Swamp sized firestorm engulfed the landscape, it made the theater rumble.

[@fulcrum6760]

You know your heroes suck when people are rooting for the bad guys more and making up their motivations and nuances through jokes and memes.

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

humanity is fucking based

[@Lord-Murugan..724]

Super human and Humanity are totally good and particularly you are the worst fucker 😂😂😂

[@abhishekvs7444]

This scene 🔥

[@txrwauy]

The ISV Venture Star is one of the best designs ever for a spacecraft - very realistic. I don't think that it would be atmosphere capable though (I am pretty sure it would break up under the stress of atmospheric entry)- a specialised lander would be a better option. However this scene shows the amount of energy a fusion/antimatter drive would produce.

[@spartacus3111]

They were never in orbit of Pandora, so their velocity relative to it could be quite low. The engines were powerful enough to fly through interstellar space, so they wouldn't need to use the atmosphere for breaking like we do today.

[@txrwauy]

@@spartacus3111 The craft are shown entering the atmosphere and operating like the sky cranes used to deposit NASAs Opportunity and Perseverance rovers. They long thin "valkyrie" style design of the ISVs is ideal for interstellar travel, but they would disintegrate on atmospheric entry - through a lack of aerodynamic surfaces, lack of re-entry heat shielding and flexing of the ships spine. If they detached the landing sections (each having their own integral fusion drives to safely land many thousands of tonnes of payload) from space it would be realistic and allow the ISVs to refuel and return to Earth faster, having spent a lot less delta v.

[@LAJ-47FC9]

​@@txrwauyWith the way they were deorbiting, using the antimatter rockets to keep themselves aloft, re-entry (but they never entered... just entry?) shouldn't be any more than a slight breeze. An "oh, look at that!"

[@txrwauy]

@@LAJ-47FC9 The sort of power required to lower the kind of lander shown in the clip to the ground would be incredible - far more than a Saturn V. The rest of the craft then needs to climb back into orbit. You are correct in calling the descent manoeuvre an entry (technically NASA refer to landing a probe on an planet with an atmosphere as EDL - Entry Descent and Landing).

[@LAJ-47FC9]

@@txrwauy It's a good thing it uses antimatter engines, then!

[@merdiolu]

RDA Corporation reminds me Dutch , French and English East India Company versions. Those companies had private armies too.

[@4by3isbetter]

This is not only an Avatar sequel, but a spritual cinematic follow up to T2 and Titanic

[@dddoger]

just imagine if the movie ended on this scene

[@visionist7]

Should have been the ending

[@OriginalSniperLol]

This scene was so badass in theaters

[@Sarah.J.Jacobson]

Reminds me of the principality of Zeon from Gundam. How they bombed Earth in Operation British and how thet sent an invasion force to Earth.

[@Crackshotsteph]

Sieg Zeon.

[@GuyWhoLovesCheeseburgers]

In this case, humans are the aliens invading the planet :D

[@ۥٴٴٴٴٴٴۥۥ-ظ]

We are alien to Na’vi we’re small aliens to them.

[@HouzaRahouza]

@@ۥٴٴٴٴٴٴۥۥ-ظbut intelligent in terms of technological advancement tiny but fierce

[@Lord-Murugan..724]

You all clowns are aliens 😂😂😂 and particularly super human is the greatest ❤❤❤😊😊

[@JimmySpace69]

We have arrived, and it is now that we perform our charge. In fealty to the God-Emperor, our undying Lord, and by the grace of the Golden Throne, I declare Exterminatus upon the world of Pandora. I hereby sign the death warrant of an entire world, and consign a million souls to oblivion. May Human justice account in all balance. The Emperor Protects.

[@retro6294]

@@JimmySpace69 Nah. I don't get it. < Walks away. >

[@RageAgainstTheDyingOfTheLight7]

​@@retro6294it's from Warhammer 40k Gloria Imperator

[@theeighthbanner4798]

Every fiber of morality leaves my body when it's humanity versus aliens

[@retro6294]

@@theeighthbanner4798 What do you mean?

[@RageAgainstTheDyingOfTheLight7]

Our ethics dont apply to aliens killing them is much like killing a dangerous animal it should be avoided and you should try and save some alive but if they must die than so be it

[@RageAgainstTheDyingOfTheLight7]

​@@retro6294 look who it is yet again

[@JoaoVitor-pw2rq]

The Factorio Engineer arriving in Gleba:

[@wzx6x6z6w]

FREEDOM NEVER SLEEPS!! FOR SUPER EARTH!!!

[@TW0man4RMY]

I wasn't even interested in watching the new Avatar and now I'm looking to buy the damn thing. 🙄

[@Originalcrf]

this is really the best scene in the movie.

[@dazzaMusic]

All this video needed was the Team America theme

[@retro6294]

@@dazzaMusic Don't you mean the Unicron Medley?

[@warmbreeze7996]

red sun over paradise

[@WildHorseProductions]

Kids can be cruel Jack!

[@joaomiguelmoreira6363]

​@@WildHorseProductions "But I love minors !!!"

[@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze]

Who’s genius idea was it to paint the humans as bad guys specifically by highlighting unending human perseverance around every corner of the movie?

[@GigachudBDE]

This scene in theaters: oOoh noOoo hOw cOuLd ThEY?! This scene in 2024: CLEANSE THE XENOS SCUM OF ITS HERESY IN THE EMPERORS NAME

[@replaytsl4591]

"Devils don't come from the hell beneath us, no. No, they come from the sky." -Lex Luthor

[@thedeserthawk2093]

As it was so eloquently put by Carl in Starship Troopers. "We're in this for the species, boys and girls!"

[@eastonenroth2366]

Humanity first, always

[@Itachi21x]

FUCK YEAH MANKIND

[@macleunin]

This would be 10x more epic with the Empire Strikes Back score

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

I can’t take this scene seriously anymore after someone made an edit of it with Freebird playing over it.

[@eleutheriosvenizelos2191]

Human superiority on top

[@animeaddict8427]

Glory to humanity 🙏 😊😊

[@HolyXerxes]

This is why I glad I watch this on Imax, I don care if the storyline is dumb or whatever, we always go to the cinema first because of its visual.

[@SandMan1998]

Agree. Especially aquaman

[@theviniso]

Man, I should have watched this on IMAX. This movie was already great on a normal screen so I can't imagine how cool it must've been.

[@cmdrgarbage1895]

The galaxy is humanity's birthright

[@Powerhaus88]

Humanity, fuck yeah!

[@furycat28]

This is possibly the best scene I ever watched in a movie theater

[@chrishamilton7516]

Humanity First. Humanity Only.

[@Xcomik]

Avatar and Avatar 2 is literally "fuck around and find out„ for the navi. HUMANITY FIRST ✊

[@RandyLannister]

FOR THE HUMAN EMPIRE!!!

[@Marvolo14]

Best scene in the film. This is what I wanted in the sequel.

[@RHM2116]

ISV Bladbury ISV Venture Star ISV Manifest Destiny ISV Vindicator Are my favorite

[@chadsenate]

Arent you forgetting the lead/command ship? ISV VENGEANCE

[@RHM2116]

@@chadsenate Did Vengeance Land With Manifest Destiny And The Other ISV's? Or did it arrive with the ISV Vindicator?

[@Astranamic]

Me n the boys in Kerbal Space Program pullin up to Laythe to "collect science"