It's not a joke, Robert! Most of the people you see in this video became unemployed when the market went digital several years ago. What you see here (if you watch the video) is how it was done for some 300 years. It's amazing how well it worked, but you can't beat computers. Now it's just a matter of how much money you spend on your algorithms - which means greater spread between rich and poor (or in this case perhaps, rich and really rich). This is a historical documentary and I am very glad you got to see it and comment. Thanks!
@CristianCarvajalC4 жыл бұрын
Trading algos should be prohibited
@AvektaProds4 жыл бұрын
@@CristianCarvajalC Please explain. Would this re-hire all the pit traders? That would be nice. BTW are their jackets now, like, collector items on eBay? I'd love to get that checkerboard one.
@CristianCarvajalC4 жыл бұрын
Yes, because we need the human factor in trading... maybe go livestream the pits to get “the feel” from the floor while I’m on my desk behind my computer. Algorithms only produce one thing: cheating, rigged computers. The only thing is honest, is the human actions, the mistakes, the chaos of millions of traders
@andrewyork3869 Жыл бұрын
pits where anything but honest, but yeah CBOE and NYSE agree with you to some extent.
@kingtigercrownestate91027 ай бұрын
This beautiful art form needs to be brought back!
@rubster19754 жыл бұрын
In such a short time we went from out cry to online trading. It's a completely different game. The mayority of pit traders never transitioned to online. The skill set is extremely different. It makes me, as a proffesional futures trader, wonder what the future will be like.
@AvektaProds4 жыл бұрын
Have you read, "The Creature from Jeckyll Island?" We're all on the same slide to the future and it's frightfully downhill.
@AvektaProds9 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help. Thanks for commenting!
@AvektaProds11 жыл бұрын
We added the music to create a sense of drama and help create a sensory continuity to what, for some, would have been a long, tedious lecture. There were no copyright issues as we purchased the music, got performance rights of everyone in the video, and were contracted directly by NYBOT (and later, ICE) to make the video according to their desires, which included the music. We're sorry you didn't like it. Can't please everyone, but we are pleased you shared your opinion.
@TheAremo1st12 жыл бұрын
A great and informative video. Having an understanding of the basics puts you in a position of being a successful trader. It's the difference between knowing how to drive a car and how a car actually works.
@AvektaProds3 жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed our trip down memory lane! What profession did you take up after the robots took your job?
@nukeacitrus883 Жыл бұрын
I'm getting stressed just watchin those guys and gals shouting and screaming and waving their arms around. Amazing how much control and order was hidden underneath all that chaos :D
@AnnLippert13 жыл бұрын
i worked at the Chicago Board of Trade in 1993-95 . All manual. No computers back then all tickets. and phones. the good old days. i did not know it's all computers now.
@AvektaProds2 жыл бұрын
We wonder where all those open criers are now. Please send us a comment if you worked in an Outrageous Sport Jacket.
@ronpaul2008rocks12 жыл бұрын
The video leaves out the part about Bernanke mentioning he might print more money sending the prices sharply up; then Bernanke mentioning he might not print more money sending the price sharply down.
@AvektaProds12 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked this and subscribed. We are busy converting over 30 years of our productions into helpful KZbin videos. Topic areas with the most comments and views get priority for the next upload. Currently Financial and Healthcare are the top ranking, but we invite you to explore our channel for other interesting videos. We listen to suggestions too! Each video took many hours and thousands of dollars to produce (with the exception of our cheap, cell videos of celebrities we meet.)
@jahivan11 жыл бұрын
This video is awesome!, great explanation, really liked it. Only one comment about the music: its too loud and wont let you hear the explanation very well on some parts of the video.
@sonoradrift3 жыл бұрын
Wow, things have changed alot since 2006!
@riddlouche12 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation
@AvektaProds10 жыл бұрын
Yes! And you can trade tea!
@infiltr80r4 жыл бұрын
So many employees involved in the backoffice, incredibly inefficient. Their edge came from seeing what others were doing, it was so much easier compared to today when you have spoofers, dark pools and various order types behaving differently. Of course they miss those times but you cannot say it worked better.
@AvektaProds4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your very astute comparisons and you are right! But many people don't know what "spoofers, dark pools, and various order types behaving differently" mean, whereas this documentary made it simple enough for high school kids to understand. We need another video - for adults too - to explain the new world of investing, now that so many are getting involved. I wonder who will pay for that one? NYBOT is gone.
@infiltr80r4 жыл бұрын
@@AvektaProds I'm not criticizing the video, the video is fine. Just strawmanning with the usual floor traders who reminisce of the "good ol' times".
@andrewyork3869 Жыл бұрын
@@infiltr80r really we need both, one to keep the other in check.
@BH-tp3pm2 ай бұрын
Totally agree. All the algos these days that spoof other algos in milliseconds, so fast that we can’t even see the orders come up on screen. The game has changed and it’s ridiculous!! Open outcry was the fairest of all the trading methods. Needs to be reintroduced!
@dmurvihill2 жыл бұрын
So does the clearing corporation then assume the risk of one party failing to enter their end of a trade? And if so, how do they then close out their position when they end up with a bunch of extra sugar? Do they have their own floor broker? And who clears that broker’s trades?
@AvektaProds2 жыл бұрын
We have no idea. Our understanding was that all trades are balanced by the end of the day. We don't know how this was done, but suspect it was with cash!
@smoothopsop84712 жыл бұрын
Madness.
@GrumpyOldTroll4 жыл бұрын
If Biegler's broker is buying and the traders in the pit are selling, why does he go for the highest offer in the pit rather than the lowest? Shouldn't he be getting the lowest price for his client?
You are most welcome. It was exciting to film this and we're sorry technology made it obsolete. Considering the long history of open call bidding, this may be one of the last remaining documentations describing how it worked.
@madsam524 жыл бұрын
Its crazy to think that this process is completely obsolete today.
@AvektaProds4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was paid to make this as a contemporary educational video. Now it's a picture of history. Imagine if we had videos of what trading was like in Antwerp in 1460!
@leem72223 жыл бұрын
In the days were ftd's, market manipulation, payment for order flow, dark pools etc etc was just a bad dream. #amc
@AvektaProds2 жыл бұрын
And now with crypto, I suppose your dreams are sweet?
@AvektaProds2 жыл бұрын
Imagine what you could make if you put on shoes!
@parkla40984 жыл бұрын
This all now happens under a second.
@HypnosisASMR11 жыл бұрын
you added the music track to avoid copyright detection, didn't you?
@a.a.12453 жыл бұрын
We know now where the writers of the show Billions took the idea for that episode.
@AvektaProds3 жыл бұрын
Which episode! We'd like to see it and reference it here.
@a.a.1245 Жыл бұрын
@@AvektaProdsseason 3, episode 2, if Im not mistaken.
@emmanuelquerol2 жыл бұрын
my god, they've been standing for a long time, give them all chairs, stationary chairs.. and also, put some walking waiters with a tray of glasses of water for everyone there
@GabeClendenning8 жыл бұрын
this system is so slow it hurts. so much potential to lose info and get a mispriced fill. ill still to my ECN's and smart order routing system to quickly jump in and out of positions
@keithchapman30165 жыл бұрын
In today's world this old and dated. Many of the older so called traders were order filling not traders. Today trading is mix of both programs and skilled orderflow traders. I believe either you can read the market or do you not, but follow the crowd.
@AvektaProds5 жыл бұрын
You are right. Reading the market means reading the crowd, not being the crowd. Are you a programmer or orderflow trader? Share some of your experiences here! People want to learn.
@peacelove9837 жыл бұрын
Trading floor doesn't exist anymore It's all about high frequency
@IRAKAZ4 жыл бұрын
It is all about high frequency ?...even after 3 years, you are so wrong.
@OversikerSTUDIO3 жыл бұрын
@@IRAKAZ yeah its about high frequency trading in nanoseconds
@IRAKAZ3 жыл бұрын
@@OversikerSTUDIO and still now you are wrong :)
@seanp23573 жыл бұрын
lmao the guy on the left at 1:57
@AvektaProds3 жыл бұрын
I am so thrilled that you "found yourself!" I will admit, the guy next to you at that second was my favorite that day - he was very active and demonstrated many of the aspects of pit trading that my clients wanted to illustrate. You, sir! What were you doing, thinking, strategizing then. Your body language seems very contained as if you were holding onto something -what was that? Perhaps you can give our audience a bit of strategy from the days when strategies were implemented and executed by humans!
@AvektaProds3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you can show this video to your children - maybe grandchildren some day!
@seanp23573 жыл бұрын
@@AvektaProds Ahhh no it wasn't me I was just pointing out how funny his expression was, that would be super cool though :)
@rogerarteaga26653 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that heard the f bomb drop at 9:14 mark?
@AvektaProds2 жыл бұрын
Aw, really?! We missed that, but frankly, if the client didn't complain, who were we to edit it out?!
@scotty34632 жыл бұрын
Thank God we don't have to trade like this anymore. I'm getting rich in my underpants.
@myworldtech8611 жыл бұрын
What a hectic job, they have to shout everyday.
@jpmvidal7 жыл бұрын
Pit traders who transitioned to electronic trading were eaten alive by HFT's algos.
@AvektaProds7 жыл бұрын
I have often felt the tragedy of that. The client who commissioned this documentary, who worked for NYBOT for many years, found himself out of a job after ICE bought NYBOT and then transitioned to ET. But the same thing, more or less, happened to video itself. How many great documentaries are made by corporations these days? Not enough to keep me dedicated to the craft, that is for sure!
@Scrap50004 жыл бұрын
@@AvektaProds and then those ice fuckers raised the fees to insane levels. Impossible for a little guy to subscribe.
@varunp6013 жыл бұрын
NYBOT. : Newyork Board of Trade Not any robot instead of floor callers😜
@ImpliedFP12 жыл бұрын
Whaaaaatttttt?
@AvektaProds12 жыл бұрын
So the Panic of 1792, the stockmarket crash of 1928 and the Great Depressiond, the run on the Bank of the US in 1931, the 1970s Oil Crisis, Boesky and Milliken's junk bond crisis in the '80s, 1987's Black Monday, the US Savings and Loan crisis of 1990, the fall of the Russian economy in 1998, the dot-com bubble of 2000, the collapse of Bear Stearn in 2008, and Justin Bieber's Madison Square Garden concert are of no interest to you? Oh, sorry. I forgot. Beiber''s concert's in Novermber. CUthere
@HypnosisASMR11 жыл бұрын
great video, the music is totally unnecessary and distracting, making this otherwise good video rather unwatchable.
@johnpersechini49514 жыл бұрын
Wow it’s all white men except for the actor. Not many women either. The market floor is so archaic and dated these days.
@meredrums17 ай бұрын
Kind of like your comment.
@thinkpositive36674 жыл бұрын
Glad to see we finally evolved. The traditional method wastes a lot of manpower and resources. Losing their jobs because of computers? Boohoo. Adapt or die, especially now that AI is coming. More jobs will be automated.
@AvektaProds4 жыл бұрын
Progress in a digital age extracts the most value from human effort, and the digital age may be the last age in the process of obsolescing humans altogether. Opps! Maybe that was too heavy!
@jonascastejon5888 Жыл бұрын
@@AvektaProds Agree, OP was needlessly callous and douchy boohooing former pit traders and brokers. Like you said, maybe one day he'll be some AI-robot's pet slave who'll be like, "Oh you lost your autonomy because of me? Well boohoo! Adapt or die now." Great video btw.
@AvektaProds Жыл бұрын
@@jonascastejon5888 Thanks for your support, Jonas. Gotta run. The AI Robot is calling me to dinner - that is - for me to feed it!
@WhiteRabbit198012 жыл бұрын
great acting lol i couldnt give a number 2s of what has happened in the past its old news