Avgas & Ultrasonic Cleaner - A Horribly Good Cleaner

[@wallacefrey6247]

I am really happy with the Vevor ultrasonic cleaner I bought after watching you use yours for the first time last year,I just wish I would have bought a bigger one.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

🤟 .... Isn't that always the case... I also wish I had a larger one, altho, I'm not sure where I would store all the cleaning solutions ! They are super handy, but once you have one, you want to put everything in it. I really need to be able to put whole engine cases and cylinders, haha.

[@extraace]

Gas is my go to in those cleaners. I have the cleaner filled with with water, then various 5 gallon buckets with lids to keep the fumes from escaping and evaporating. Dedicated water based cleaner bucket, gas, diesel, and evaporust. Usually goes into water, gas, evaporust (if needed) and into diesel to oil it up if needed. Then i filter everything through paper towels and reuse, Use your head and remember to check/discharge static before the gas fumes are freed.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yes, if you do it well, it's a lot less hazardous, but most people won't do it right... including myself. If I worked with it often, I would com up with a better method... or at least that's what I tell myself. It does work really well, and it is way more affordable than most other solvents. I would still rather recommend for people not to do it, than to suggest safe ways and have someone mess it up, haha. Could be a bad day.

[@werner.x]

05:00 No, really just NO wonder at all - gas fumes go from the nose directly into your brain cells, very fast acting. As every glue sniffer knows. Problem is, the fat of the brain cells - as far as i remember, the brain is 80% fat - is holding these VOCs for a while, they don't air out as fast as they soak into the fat. And from my experience - i did expose myself to gas fumes during my apprentice time and didn't care, because gas fumes never failed to make me feel good, unlike other VOCs, which maybe would make me depressed or caused headache - it takes a while for you to experience symptoms like heartbeat irregulations. But once i had it, it took me years to get rid of that one symptom alone. The other thing that happend - but nobody knows, if it was related to gasoline or the other VOCs i was working with - i got ulcerative colitis shortly after, which made my life very miserable for 20 long years and when i was lucky enough to recover finally, which is very rare and i have to be endlessly thankful for that (still praying to not get it back), my career was ruined and all life plans shattered. So - even if you know of the dangers - you'll always feel happy enough not to care, but the price you pay for inhaling gasoline fumes is more than expensive. By the way, i could always tell, after my own experience, if somebody was a painter in the automotive business - back in the days, when car paint contained a ton of VOCs - these people got so funnily unorganized, because their brain cells were soaked with these VOCs - you could guess that by watching and often enough were spot on. Have to add another aspect: If you speed up the evaporation of gasoline artificially that much, chances are good, you'll reach the right air fuel ratio not only for a quick hot burn, but even for a full blast explosion of your garage. I wouldn't have risked that, personally, although i'm really quite careless myself. Every once in a while somebodys shop burns down and even apprentices die just by emptying gas tanks into buckets underneath the lifted car , like the last one i remember, 2016 in Germany - because nobody rightly estimates the danger of gasoline fumes and their readiness to ignite and let it just be electric charge differences nobody knows of. Problem is - first: you feel well - second, disaster strikes, completely unexpected and quicker than one can even realize. So, whatever, take care.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

We were actually outside most of the time... Only inside for a few minutes of filming. We had a "campfire" going in my backyard and were hanging out there so we weren't exposing ourselves to the fumes. I started working for myself in 2014 as I was tired of working for companies that didn't care about the health risks of gasoline. One of the main reasons I only work outdoors now, for my day job. As a mechanic, I know all to well about being around gasoline and being able to smell it coming out of your pores and even on your breath, like an alcoholic. I know a lot of people who destroyed their lives being careless with chemicals, including my father. I try not to use brake and parts cleaner, acetone etc, unless it is necessary, and i use them in limited quantities. My father once had fuel in the hull of a jetski blow up and catch him on fire... he was very badly burned and probably only survived as it had rained the day before and he was close to a deep puddle. He had scarring on his face and much of his body for the rest of his life. We were careful not to run the heater for the cleaning we did, and monitored the temperature to make sure it didn't get hot. With the lid on the cleaner, it seemed as much of the fuel was condensing and going back into the cleaner. I did not expect this. In one part of the video, we came in from outside, and it didn't seem too smelly until we removed the lid of the cleaner, and then I made a comment about it smelling like a paint booth. Thank you for your concern and advice ! I don't know if you ever visit my patreon account, but I recently purchased a CO and VOC tester... should arrive soon.

[@werner.x]

@@loweredexpectations4927 Sorry, no patreon attention. It's already a constant stream of videos i'd be interested in, but even with discarding amazon movies and whatnot, i cannot watch even 1% of all the incoming stuff, where i've enabled notifications. That's total overload. That is, why i don't believe in this youtube business model. But, well, during my lifetime, earth almost tripled it's human inhabitants - so maybe it will get along for a while - if mankind won't go mad even faster. I just have to laugh every time, youtubers do complain about 80% of their viewers haven't subscribed - which they often do. I can't help thinking "Dudes, that's the reason they even found the time watching your very video. Why do you complain to people just delivering you valuable watchtime". So, whatever - notification or not - a day doesn't get longer, just because millions of people decided speeding up their video delivery Stay healthy and may you not blow up your garage 😵‍💫🤠🍺

[@DrYosh2]

I think the reason this worked as well as it did as a solvent is because it has a lower cSt than water. Regular gasoline is about 0.7, where water is 1 in terms of centistokes (viscosity). So it would seem that it would cavitate easier in the ultrasonic cleaner and since it's also a non polar liquid just like oil, it would also work better than water.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Interesting ... There was a lot of cavitation bubbles. The gas also eats away at grease and oil even without cavitation.

[@DrYosh2]

@@loweredexpectations4927 I'd say those two would be compounding in this case.

[@rickcoleman8903]

Diesel or mineral spirits works well. Bearings and vibrations could cause damage bouncing around at high frequency against each other.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I had thought of using diesel. I find the smell tends to linger and it is oily, so you then have to wash it off with something, while the gas leaves nothing behind. If I were doing lots of cleaning, I still think I would choose the diesel as it is much safer and does clean really well ! Interesting... I wonder what the actual risk of bearing damage is and if it is specific to certain size / weight bearing and frequencies.

[@Yelladog78]

Avgas is in my opinion the best cleaner. I used 100LL at an aircraft engine shop years ago, it worked better than anything

[@loweredexpectations4927]

It does work incredibly well. I've used it before in a dish and with a brush, but never in an ultrasonic cleaner. Back in the 90s I worked with a snowmobile race team and we burnt 100LL

[@friedtomatoes4946]

The only thing that scares me about using it as a cleaner is the lead in it. There's no safe concentration of lead.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@friedtomatoes4946 While this is true, lead doesn't magically get into your body. Tetraethyllead is in gas, not lead. It is incredibly unhealthy to ingest gas and if you are handling it at all, you should be wearing nitrile gloves. Lead gets into your body by putting it in your mouth, or of you heat it up a LOT. It is much safer than the gas that it is in.

[@friedtomatoes4946]

@@loweredexpectations4927 My fear is that the ultrasonic cleaner is atomizing a small amount of the gas and the tetraethyllead.

[@juststeve5542]

My father always used to clean part by hand in a bowl of paraffin (aka Kerosene). It's a bit harder to ignite - maybe worth a go.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yes... Kerosene, Varsol, Turpentine, Diesel would all be safer options. Gasoline or Avgas have the "advantage" of leaving zero residu, so the cleaned part is ready to go after a quick blast with compressed air. I have never used paraffin... odd how different things are much more popular depending where you live.

[@teejay622]

Have you used this ultrasonic cleaner to clean your chinese diesel heater, specifically the burn chamber? Seems like it would do a great job. Also, what size cleaner did you go with? I think I'll take your previous advice and go double the size of yours. Buy once - cry once. lol

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I have not... I got it at the end of the testing ... I imagine I will be using it this winter. I have the 10 litre... A 20 would be great. 👍 Of course, there's always going to be that one thing you want to clean that doesn't fit !

[@teejay622]

@@loweredexpectations4927 Always. Thanks for the quick reply as well as all the info you've shared over the course of your videos. I've really enjoyed your content. Have a Blessed New Year

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@teejay622 Thanks for your support ! Happy New Year to you as well. Take care.

[@toddstanley7804]

LL fuel, low lead, still contains 25 times the allowable lead content of automotive fuel

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yes... It would be nice if they could come up with a better solution for piston engine aircraft ...It may take another 100 years before all of the piston engine aircraft are gone that require this. Fortunately, it is a relatively small amount of fuel. Jet fuel also has much higher sulphur levels than regular diesel / kerosene... whatever it is. I haven't looked into it, but I believe this is simply a cost cutting measure. Somehow the aviation industry has escaped this legislation. My buddie runs it in some of his power equipment as well as jet skis ... It doesn't go bad like regular gasoline, and it is a LOT cheaper than race fuel. Snowmobile race teams I worked for in the 90s used it...

[@DonziGT230]

I don't care how deadly the fumes are, AVgas smells yummy!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I assume you mean when it's burning in an engine ... I agree.

[@DonziGT230]

@@loweredexpectations4927 Actually, I don't remember what AVgas smells like, but some race fuels smell great. I used to fill my Zippo with VP120, loved the stuff. But some smell horrible.

[@robertclark5752]

Avgas is airplane fuel ?

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yes, that's correct. 100 / 104 low lead.

[@petedebo6906]

Do away with the sounds it sounds like a transformer is frying 😮😂

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Haha ! Yeah... it's a NASTY sound !!

[@Aikaramba12]

avgas is not gas, it's really kerosene. Not really flammable at all

[@davidwhite6830]

JP5 or jet fuel is like kerosene, AV Gas is like gas.

[@ding9633]

So aviation gasoline isn't gasoline?

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yes... as David White says... Avgas is much more like gasoline... it is used in piston engine aircraft. Sometimes known as 100 LL (100 low lead) or 104 LL. 100 being the octane. Jet engine fuel, is basically kerosene with fewer restrictions on how much sulphur they can leave in it... If you throw a match in it, it may just go out. I used Avgas in racing snowmobiles for years ... many racers use it.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Spot on !

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Nope... First off, it is leaded. 104 LL, meaning 104 octane low lead. I believe it doesn't have any ethanol at all. From a user standpoint, it lasts much longer than gasoline without going stale. It has a VERY distinct smell when burnt in an engine... If you purchase brands of canned fuel like True Fuel (for a weed trimmer or chainsaw) it has this very same smell and they claim it has a shelf life if 5 years.