Force to move shock is just a shaft area multiplied by IFP pressure. It has nothing in common with small bump sensitivity (after shock is loaded). On the other hand - If you want to have good sensitivity at first 1mm of travel then using too soft spring with added preload is counterproductive. Preloaded soft spring it is not the same as right spring for you. Especially progressive one (you lose even move small bump sensitivity). One more thing: DHX does not have HBO at all, not just "does not have external HBO externally adjusted".
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
I ran it with a perfectly preloaded 570 Sprindex. 600 lbs fox spring and none preloaded 520 in the video, no change on small bump. Even with the 520 cranked up to 570. I am aware of this formulas, but your also wrong, I dropped the IFP pressure to 100, from 150, also no change. I have another video on it, but this is for setup. The piston is massive compared to the X2. That is the friction. HSC is bottom out control as much as HBO is. Have it be not as pleasant. To answer your last statement. 🍻
@hias_k2 ай бұрын
@@OtterMTBtech dude it has no HBO - period. If you cannot feel a difference in a 520 and a 600 lbs spring, there might be some other problems going on and you should evaluate where this insensitivity is coming from. I can clearly feel a 50 lbs difference in spring rate on my shock on small bumps. And you should differentiate between static and kinetic friction. I like your channel, but this video is disinformative.
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
I am not an expert so I appreciate your input. 520- 570 spring no change in small bumps, Tightened it up to 570 because it rode better like that. I may have just been ruined by the EXT. I have ohlins shock has no small bump either.
@NaZ23072 ай бұрын
haha, adding bottom out control via preloading the spring is what we broke guys did in the early 2000s.
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
Bro it’s better than a hard bottom out
@trentvlak2 ай бұрын
Graphic at 5:35 says 1 turn adds 25lbs of spring rate. Spring rate is fixed at coil rate. Preload shifts the curve over but does not change the slope of force vs distance . Disagree with adding preload to prevent bottom out. Ideally you want just enough preload to keep the spring from rattling. I use one turn on my CC inline. I think that before assessing bottom out, you need to ride first and set your lsc and hsc. If you are still bottoming out easily with a prog spring after that, a coil shock is not for this bike.
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
The shock has no hsc. There is no 570 lb progressive spring. There was no difference in shock preloaded or not
@trentvlak2 ай бұрын
@@OtterMTBtech No hsc? Trash can for this unit, sir.
@andrewlee51812 ай бұрын
I bought this shock for my Forbidden Druid about 4 months ago when it was on sale for dirt cheap. Right out of the box it had a noticeable knock/click while going over high speed chatter type stuff. Feels great but kind of annoying. I came across your other dhx video last week and saw you change the ifp pressure so i bought the adapter,checked mine and it was at 100psi. I pumped it up to the recommended 150psi and it felt like absolute garbage in terms of small bump sensitivity. My question for you is if I drop it back down to 100psi am I damaging the shock in anyway? And have you dealt with any sort of “clunk” with this shock? I read the float x had the same issue and was replace with a “no knock main piston” from fox. Thanks for the great videos 👍
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
It does have a risk of getting air and oil mixing with lower pressure, but the X2 runs a 100 Psi on the piggyback. Ext 55 psi. I didn’t hear any clunks, weirdly i found the the Float X ride fantastic, and DHX almost pure garbage, except in rocks gardens (Just got some float X) to make sure I was not tripping The only improvement was mentioned in video 2 clicks of lsc and progressive spring. Sluggish performance on anything but the chunk I have a friend with Orbea same results as me, stiff no small bump weird feel
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
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@mynamejeff89402 ай бұрын
Do a video on ohlins
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
Ttx soon
@Bradcathcart2 ай бұрын
Have you tried any of the MRP suspension components? Or plan on reviewing there stuff?
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
Probably not, but I’m sure it’s great small companies have tight control over products
@alexnutu16302 ай бұрын
I have big issues with my dpx2, i m quite heavy 210 lbs and i don t know what to do should i upgrade or repair this shock. Mostly i d like a coil shock but which one?
@trentvlak2 ай бұрын
what bike are you on?
@sdigsy44142 ай бұрын
I'm same weight & have same shock on my Kenevo - total shite!! Switching to Rockshox coil very soon - steel shaft 👍
@trentvlak2 ай бұрын
@@sdigsy4414 Bomber CR with Avalanche tune
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
I couldn’t find one, then discontinued the shock 🫢.
@sdigsy44142 ай бұрын
@@trentvlak cool, I'll check it out 👍
@mustclime53112 ай бұрын
so do you recommend progressive springs on all kenevo coil shocks.
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
Not at, but that one for sure
@postro111112 ай бұрын
Your approach to sag is wrong. How much sag depends on your bike and your riding style and not what Fox recommends.
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
It’s not a pro level setup video get started kind
@OneCosmic7492 ай бұрын
But but but but FOX is the best suspension company right?
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
Forks yes
@lrumb12 ай бұрын
For anyone looking for information on this shock it's probably best to look elsewhere. This guy might be correct in his assessment but he doesn't seem to have the required knowledge to be making such videos.
@OtterMTBtech2 ай бұрын
If you want to help people make, say what I did wrong.
@mustclime53112 ай бұрын
FYi, Bikesonline has this shock for $229 shipped.......