AWD vs FWD Snow Tires on Ice

[@Antiorganizer]

Usually a lot of effort is required to find the confirmation bias that AWD owners seek to make themselves feel good about their "investment". Smart people see through all that and know that AWD in almost all cases is bullshit, and FWD will save money up front and through the life of the vehicle. AWD owners get annoyed by this and will come with stories, scenarios, situations, to save face. Not going to work.

[@NoRoads2AllRoads]

Now go 30 mph and try to stop it. As a safety stand point a FWD with winter tires vs SUV with all season is better. I am sure the stopping distance between the AWD vs the FWD will be like night and day! And this is a problem... since SUVs and such do pretty good in winter conditions it falsely gives drives the wrong impression that they handle winter just fine. I dont know the % of accidents in winter that are due to lack of braking and such but I would venture is probably very very high even close to 90% or more. Not just that but handling as well... try cornering with SUV/AWD with all season vs a FWD with winter. Lots of understeer on the AWD. Heres a video, kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppzPe5yqhdJph5I which reaches the same conclusion as you since in your case going up the hill is acceleration which is the only case where AWD outperformed a FWD I dont think the discussion on the other video focused just on the hill but more as whole regarding safety on winter conditions be it ice/snow and an all around performance of both. With that in mind, then FWD with winter tires vs SUV/AWD with all season will outperform the latter anyday Another video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4nNq4yYpdlshdk DOUBLE the stopping distance!!!

[@NoRoads2AllRoads]

another one kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZ2VlICig7eLlaM this was only 20 mph so the difference in stopping distance does not look as remarkable but still looks like at least 30 feet or more difference.

[@chancesalyer9801]

This is what I told the people in your other video that an awd SUV would have no problem going up that hill with just regular all seasons vs the fwd with snow tires lol. Nice vid👍🏼

[@AzNightmare]

*If going up hill is the only thing you need to do in the entire commute... The problem is the only thing people ever consider is acceleration and uphill grip. Sure, that's all great, but AWD isn't going to do jack when you try to stop or maneuver. I bet you anything the FWD with winter tires will stop in a shorter distance and out maneuver an AWD with all seasons. The only advantage AWD has is off the line acceleration, but with inferior braking and turning, all it does is give false security to the ignorant.*

[@johnjones393]

Az is correct. Try stopping the AWD with all seasons on the decline of that icy hill and you'll want to be in the other car with studded tires. As someone who has owned vehicles with both set setups, I can say that AWD about the same amount of security as a child's safety blanket in 95% of winter driving situations.

[@vernonpaigejr.1517]

@@johnjones393 just engine brake. I do it all the time.

[@ftw65911]

get some hakkapelita 8..studs throughout entire tire..not sides only

[@melinuxf00l]

And get a narrower than stock size. Newer cars all have these wide, low profile tire sizes nowadays, and they all absolutely suck in the snow, even WITH winter tires. They just float on top of the snow and ice, rather than digging down in.

[@jessicaraye1119]

+1 for hakkas. My 6es are seasons old and outperform new hankook ipike by an truly incredible margin. I stay away from anything awd on a snowy road because i know they didnt bother w dedicated tires