Awesome 3D Printers at RAPID + TCT 2019

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Here are the timecodes for each booth we visited! Kodak - 0:26 AON3D - 3:38 Creative 3D Technologies - 7:47 Diabase ($6900 forgot to mention in video!) - 13:35 Makergear - 18:24 Stratasys - 20:31

[@elmariachi5133]

So can we expect an F900 at your's soon?

[@PRO3DESIGN]

Nice recap Joel. Some interesting tech going on in the industry. When do you get your first metal desktop printer?

[@tory6733]

Wish he checked out blackbelt.. they have the most innovative FDM printer I have seen in years

[@3DPrintingNerd]

The Blackbelt innovation is their black belt, right? The tilted head and belt driven system have been around for a few years before them.

[@TqSNv9R0iG5Ckxew]

Thank you for asking for pricing information. It seems like a lot of companies that sell expensive machines are afraid to share it.

[@ChannelRejss]

18:40 That's a man who most likely grew up among several siblings. And I can totally relate. NEVER put your cake down or loose sight of it.

[@Kamel419]

cake that has left your periphery is no longer fit for eating

[@mb-ql1gb]

Guy puts cake down. Next Interviewer: "WOWWW, that guy can print a cake !

[@matthewwilkinsonENGINEER]

Hahahaha, that is true. The guy comes back and a plastic slice is now in its place.

[@matryc]

"the build volume is about 8 by 8, by 9.something", what a pro :D

[@soccermastax]

I gotta say this guy is one of the best i've seen at interviewing people. the flow of conversation, leading peoples minds in the directions they need to go to exchange information is great. good job. you do yourself and your interviewee's a great service

[@JohnOCFII]

I think I’d watch Joel interview people at the sewing needle convention. Everything is so enthusiastically presented, and you hone in on the bits that you know will be of interest to your audience. Thanks for sharing!

[@Christian-cz9bu]

Funny you mention sewing... it was my textiles professor that mentioned the 3D/RP curriculum at my college and now I'm into a new field...and will be at RAPID this spring.

[@julianking4793]

Great video. So great to see small comapnies with truly innovative offerings. Also, they left Stratasys for last. The Sith-lords of additive manufacturing.

[@LeCafeRacer]

Don't be fooled by the F370 TPU. It is very geometry dependent. Been running ours for about two months. You can't change infill density or layer height. They lock you out of basically every setting. You need a special TPU extruder. Also the entire extruder head will need to be replaced after 800 hours and costs $1800.

[@ColtFortyFour]

Classic Stratasys...

[@highvoltagefeathers]

As a long-time consumer 3D printer user and current user of both an AON-M1 (the dumpster fire version) and an F370, I feel like I need to say something. First, the F370 is THE MOST capable TPU machine I've ever used. Yes they lock you out of full density, for the same reason that printing full density in TPU is a nightmare on any machine. The perimeters are solid and the parts are great. Honestly the retraction is magic, I don't understand how they manage to get perimeter starts and rapids without stringing. And we have way more than 800 hours on our TPU extruder, and it's fine. The printer recommends replacement (in addition to all the other service intervals) but that doesn't mean the extruder is bad. Our regular extruders are well over 2000 hours. as well, beyond their service life. The regular extruders are $500 a piece, yes the TPU extruder is $1300. This sounds insane to a consumer, but believe me, the idea of screwing with a consumer printer while engineering work on million dollar contracts is waiting for you is equally insane. We love this machine because we're their target customer. It's definitely not for everyone.

[@FusionSource]

Ahhhhhh, the tech, some amazing machines there. Love the Peek (PEKK) machine. The Diabase machine is jaw dropping. Enjoy Joel, wish I was there.

[@CapeCodCNC]

Hey Joel great video! Not sure if it is a coincidence or not but since YOU chimed in on the Kodama Obsidian forum we have been getting weekly updates! THANK YOU THANK YOU and a HUGE HIGH FIVE!!! Your Awesome!!!! Did I say thanks?

[@TheMidnightSmith]

Thanks for saving the HUGE surprise for the end! That thing blew my mind!!! One day I hope to print PEEK!

[@TheMidnightSmith]

@@PRiMETECHAU that one was abs, but it can print Ultem and PEEK, both are insanely high temp materials. I've seen PEEK resist 280c. I wouldn't use it for an actual car engine, but for a short lived prototype, yes, way cheaper than milling aluminum.

[@thomaswhiting3279]

@@PRiMETECHAU We can print Ultem 9085 and Ultem 1010 parts that are bigger than the engine block as well as being fully dense!

[@pastorhealer]

It's fun to watch you progress in creating these videos Joel... This one was excellent! Thanks

[@loodahchris04]

Rapid was so cool! I met so many cool people and saw so many crazy printers. Definitely a multi-day event, 1 day was pushing it. My wife had to keep me on task and not talking to so many people :)

[@TqSNv9R0iG5Ckxew]

Joel, You have a real talent for interviewing. As much as I enjoy your content in our community, I hope you're not wasting your talents on us!

[@willierants5880]

2 days... for THAT stool... that's not a casual claim. That's flipping amazing! I had much smaller prints, granted almost the entire build volume of my Mk3, take 36+ hours!

[@hotaru8309]

I feel like it was the ultimate talking piece even in addition to it being functional. "Whoa where'd you get this cool chair?" "I 3D printed it." *pulls out second stool and sits down*

[@hazonku]

That Creative 3D Technologies printer is AWESOME!

[@xaytana]

I've wanted a post-printing milling machine, at the hobby level, for awhile. If I'm dedicating space to a cnc milling machine, it'd be doing more than just light finishing work on plastic, also making it a machine for wood and light metal work, maybe even do some drag knife work with it; especially if you're getting into 5+ axis work, having one dedicated to just plastic is a lot of wasted space at the hobby level. Another thing I'd personally do is change from a turret tool changer, like the Diabase machine, to either a carousel or belt/chain based tool changer, as tool capacity would be much higher, especially when you're adding print heads on top of milling tools. Then maybe add some kind of pallet system for changing between cartesian and various non-cartesian build platforms, and to change between a build plate for printing and vises for milling, and a vacuum plate for drag knife and some harder to hold work. Basically, I just want an all-in-one additive and subtractive cnc machine, as it'd consolidate most cnc work into a single machine, which means it'd be highly space efficient.

[@dininabodinay1707]

"I could probably sleep in this thing" who needs candy when you have a giant 3d printer.

[@miketaylor1594]

Dininabo Dinay dude that printer is huge, I want to play, if I bought that thing my wife would kill me😂😂😂

[@Deneteus]

Imagine how much it cost to print something as large as that engine block with PEEK. That Kodak guy was like we will help you fix your models. LOL. Put down the cake!!

[@louismonsef7173]

19:18 Put your cake down 😂😂😂😂😂

[@sinephase]

I like how Creative 3D just seems like 3D printer enthusiasts who've learned so much about it they can build and improve upon 3D printers that can do amazing things! :D

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Agreed!

[@Mobile_Dom]

after becomnig best friends with the guy from AON3D, Joel is now going to have a Prusa Mk3 built with PEKK parts instead of PETG :P

[@Robothut]

So much totally cool new Tech ! I may have to get a few new paper routs to buy any of them. Thanks for the heads up Joel and for sharing with us all.

[@flioink]

All great machines, but I noticed a lack of any resin based printers.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Very much so. Industrial machines are very much SLS and FDM based.

[@1sinister80]

Resin is the way to go. Those lines in the extruder style printers is so ugly.

[@modtheman8802]

@@1sinister80 Fdm printers are made for prototyping not parts that look pretty. Resin printers are for making small intricate parts that look good

[@machinerin151]

Probably because once you overcome drawbacks of the FDM - you don't need resin. Resin is pretty brittle and impractical compared to FDM, especially in an industrial environment.

[@tomkuijer494]

Can you do a video on what method of filament the huge (like the large stratasys) printers use? Like do they use huge spools, or pellets or something else?

[@thomaswhiting3279]

Hey Tom, we sell materials in 92 cubic inch filament spools but some materials are offered in bigger spool sizes (500 cubic inches for the lower end plastics like ABS and ASA). For reference, 92 cu in of ABS is about 3.4 lbs of material (1.5kg). We also chip our materials so the machine knows how much filament remains and also to eliminate the need for customers to tinker with print settings...which is a hotly debated topic

[@no-trick-pony]

The Kodak machine was pretty cool. Pretty down to earth. The price.. not so much. But the quality looked really good.

[@fyremonte]

LOL... Put your cake down and let's go over here!

[@justsomeone5314]

I just passed this part in the video and got annoyed; wanted to comment it myself. "Yeah, happy birthday and all, stop enjoying *right now* to demonstrate for me this instant." I suppose he probably wants to demonstrate his machine even more than eat cake, but that's rude, dude!

[@randomname4726]

@@justsomeone5314 Yeah, I found that rude as hell. That guy has probably been showing that printer off ALL day and he just wants to eat his cake, the fact that he didn't stop eating it just shows that Joel and his viewers probably aren't this guys customer base. I'm sure if an important potential customer came over he would have out the cake down. Let the man eat his cake.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

#CakeGate

[@ModeratelyAmused]

Should have had a follow up question with the first guy. If you send your design to the company so they can make it printable, do they own the rights to the printable format?

[@jgon12]

Oh yes that is true could you own your idea if they make it or just the rights to sell.

[@RonFloyd]

It's incredible to see what's here and what's coming with this technology! Thanks Joel! (and Sean too, of course!)

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Thanks as always, Ron!

[@detlefp.9530]

High Five from Germany. Just found your Channel and Subscribed right away. Keep up the Good and Interesting Work

[@gf6368]

diabase such a cool machine

[@Biff8899]

Ethan was at Mrrf, I'm surprised you didn't see him in the back building next to the races arena, nice video as well

[@3DPrintingNerd]

I TRIED to get back there to see him but couldn’t :( Believe me I was sad about that. Thankfully the stars aligned for RAPID!

[@RyanStone143]

@@3DPrintingNerd Thanks for interviewing Ethan. I was set up across from his booth at mrrf. Great guy and an awesome printer!

[@PaganWizard]

14:25 Seems like he still has an axe to grind with you over that broken part. 23:40 If they are willing to print an engine block and heads for sale, I would certainly be interested in buying. That would make an awesome addition to my garage/man cave.

[@hotaru8309]

"But we're not talking about the materials, were talking about how this machine can print all these awesome materials! ...and it can!" Great Pitch Mr. Joel. I know I'm sold. XD

[@spreaddeezhazelnutz7511]

Hotaru I know right. I want it now, but it costs $42k. My Haas cnc mill only costs a couple thousand more. lol

[@jameslaine2472]

I found all of these to be very similar to our hobby level printers, but bigger and more enclosed. Except the Diabase one; that one truly looks like an actual advancement in rapid prototyping capabilities. It was the most impressive of the lot.

[@anthonyrich1592]

How many hobbyist 3D printers come with their own smoke alarm? We all know one that should, but doesn't.

[@grumpydude1598]

fantastic video Joel! lots of new people that seems to have something promising coming ! thought when i first saw stratasys at the end of the video i almost wanted to turn it off, glad i didnt you made it fun and worth watching!!

[@dale_ch]

Really interesting tour Joel - thanks for that 👍😁

[@dipt_tpid]

Let's hope that you made arrangements for a Stratasys printer showcase-review!

[@Cyber_Kriss]

23:19 Man, are you kidding ? How BIG can these printers be ? My goodness... That stuff will be able to print a whole freaking car !

[@invisibleninja131]

I mean, there exists printers that can print houses

[@quentincampbell5865]

Thanks. Loved seeing the more industrial type machines than all the hobby stuff. Diabase is my favourite.

[@lukedavid8099]

Agreed! That thing is insane! I really hope a youtuber gets one and goes really in depth with that thing. I want to see more of it

[@asasibelasas4338]

100% Agree

[@zaneolivier111]

Much love from Cape Town South Africa guys :)

[@middleclasspoor]

Thanks Joel! Great video! I wondered whether the RAPID expo's were worth going to or not. I didn't think they were geared toward the consumer level at all. Granted they are the upper end but still not completely out of reach of some. Good to know....

[@yzorgone]

Nice hanging of a printer there.. i also have my printers hanging from ropes to get rid off almost all ringing and wobbling.

[@cigp]

as always , pretty informative and full of good vibes

[@Wachpwnski]

I love those guys at Diabase, they make some really awesome and innovative stuff.

[@LawsForever]

2:13 "you can touch the build plate, it's still hot" . He added the warning just after the other guy already touched the plate, hilarious !!!!

[@drubradley8821]

At 8:00 in.... Edward from Twilight is selling 3D printers.... I wonder if it sparkles too?

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Not going to lie, I giggled.

[@Davedarko]

"Put your cake down!" :D

[@lavachemist]

Somebody finally did 3D printing in rotary (he called it 4 axis, but really you'd only need 3 simultaneous). I wondered when that would happen.

[@lavachemist]

@@albertvillalobos1377 Diabase is in this video

[@patprop74]

nice job showing what's going on at RapiD, Lots of cool printers.

[@Antonime95]

Hey, great video. Haven't seen such industrial reviews in a while. What's caught my eye (ear) is that Thomas from Stratasys mentioned their F370 has heated oven, not chamber. Any thoughts on what's the difference? Also that kind-a supervolcano looks interesting. You can also see some imperfections on the model related (I guess) to it, what is surprising for me.

[@antalz]

I think "chamber" implies that it's the bed making making the air warm, while "oven" implies that there's a separate heating element to heat the air.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

I think the "oven" means it's going to get hot, and hopefully bake cupcakes.

[@thomaswhiting3279]

All the above comments are correct...I say oven meaning the air is heated but I guess chamber is probably correct as well. Also, we bake cookies in the 900 when we get bored.

[@bernardtarver]

Kudos for stepping into big boy markets.

[@lawlerzwtf]

That Diabase guy really sounds like an engineer with his use of words lol

[@3DPrintingNerd]

That dude is a SUPER engineer. Did you catch my video on the Diabase machine a while ago?

[@lawlerzwtf]

@@3DPrintingNerd I probably haven't seen it yet since I don't remember, but the way he says radial instead of circular, or elastomer instead of rubber or plastic, it all brings me back to my time as a student in engineering (which honestly wasn't very long ago haha) I love your videos Joel! Keep up the awesome work. Hopefully these high strength, high build volume, and fine detail qualities will make it down to hobby level printers sooner than later. That would allow for a world where anyone with enough engineering knowledge can build their dream inventions at home without having to got to a machine shop for custom fabrication. What an exciting time to live in!

[@3DPrintingNerd]

lawlerzwtf link! kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4ubY5KCa7qgsLM

[@_Piers_]

I'm only slightly disappointed that the interview with Stratasys wasn't just Joel shouting "BOOOOOOO!!!! (Not you personally, I'm sure you're lovely) BOOOOOOO!!!!" at them.

[@Z-add]

Most innovations are happening in the filament sector. Where is resin printing headed?

[@LincolnWorld]

Best coverage of RAPID I've seen. Thanks Joel! High-5!

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Thanks! You'll love the next two videos as well! Wednesday and Friday!

[@PaganWizard]

I wish there were some shows like this in or at least close to Chicago.

[@crocythecrocodile8843]

How’s it Goin Joel just want to say hi brother love your videos always well I’m a huge fan of you keep up the awesome work

[@daskog]

Kodak misses the ball by a yard! That price for f*** sake! AON3D has the eyes on the ball the whole time!

[@Side85Winder]

I am not convinced some of the prices they are charging for some of these printers expecially when you see they are made out of basic nema 17's and alloy extrusion are they running smoothieware or marlin as well.......

[@siwilson1437]

Plot twist: Cake was 3D printed over on Stand 255

[@arbjful]

3500 usd isn’t much. That Kodak printer looks good for my work. The part quality looks fabulous too

[@G40bv]

My only thought at makergear... don't brake it lol. It's awesome to see those kind of machines. I might buy 1 in 100 year's... Maybe just maybe, for now I will keep my Anet A8 running . Have fun Joel

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Hey, maybe maybe :) #highfive

[@mgstark3049]

Great Video! This inspired me for my last video project on 3D printing :)

[@mleeman01]

Any consumer side SLA resin printers capture your interest at the show?

[@peterrobles4048]

The video is very informative. I am in the market for a 3d printer (desktop). Any opinions on FDM versus SLA?

[@tomquinn7136]

Peter Robles I’d go with FDM for your first printer because SLA printers are a long-time investment which require constant upkeep. Unless you’re going to need crazy specific dimensions, I’d recommend something like a prusa or a colido. :)

[@markgiles8527]

Loved that video. Some much technology going places.

[@tykempster]

My Ultra One unfortunately hasn't been able to make production parts for me yet despite literally hundreds of hours of fiddling. It has been exceptionally slow, temps seem inconsistent, extrusion isn't super consistent, and I have ringing at speeds below 40mm/s. I can crank out better parts on a Prusa in half the print time :( I have a fleet of other Makergears but I think the Ultra One perhaps was released without enough testing.

[@MrLaserpowered]

"Put your cake down and come over here". Hilarious!

[@erikm9768]

Damn, man, you are one aggressive dude. You come off as a bit more passive in your home videos, lol, its kinda hilarious, people on that expo got all nervous XD

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Heh, you have to remember these people aren’t used to questions like what I ask. Many have scripted answers ahead of time, and talking points they try to hit.

[@bignuds6704]

PUT YOUR CAKE DOWN NOWWW FUZZER. ooo whats thats, cooool

[@garagemonkeysan]

Good to see that 3D printing is still evolving. Thanks for sharing! Aloha! : )

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Thank YOU for watching - aloha!

[@selenascott7278]

"$42,000 charge right now... We want to make it affordable so people can adopt it" For a $128 I can slap on a Dyze hotend, throw a space heater into the enclosure and print the same material. Still be under $500 for that setup

[@hightde13]

Any chance you checked out the Mcore Arke? they seem really cool but heaven't heard much about them out in the wild.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

I really, REALLY wanted to but their booth was swamped like crazy, and I didn't have a chance to go back.

[@ualdayan]

Which one of these fine machines is it that you're getting a review unit (and viewer giveaway) of? I'd be willing to accept a Diabase with a 5th axis for sure.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

That diabse starts out at $6,900? that seems insanely cheap. Damn. I REALLY want one. No idea what I need it for but I want it.

[@lavachemist]

I didn't catch that part! That seems really cheap.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

@@lavachemist I looked it up on their website since Joel didn't have it in this video.

[@CesarinPillinGaming]

We're slowly archiving the star trek pipe dream.. Industrial replicators.

[@thepixelpusher]

Joel, you do a fantastic job in your channel.👍🏻

[@muffty1337]

And a lovely high five to Mr. Joel! :D

[@tristragyopsie5464]

Could Daibase use the cylindrical set up to first mill a shape, say the 3D model of a person's forearm, then switch heads and print a material over that, creating a custom fit precision part? the potential is great and I don't see why they couldn't but it requires a lot more consideration in head location and rotation on there lathe like part as the shape may not be uniform radially.

[@PaulojnPereira]

So you are saying if it could mill a cylinder shape until it turns it into a "customized arm" and print on top of it? I think it still had to calibrate the surface somehow (like a bed leveling of sorts), i think it would be easier to do the opposite, like printing on a smaller cylinder and radially generate support material to shape it into the final form (using the support material to add some volume).

[@jesusisalive3227]

You need to get a Duo! Also please don't forget to try and get an Anycubic Predator......pretty please! Awesome show thanks for sharing!

[@3DPrintingNerd]

DUO! Yes, and the predator - I'm trying!

[@no-trick-pony]

The guy at Stratasys was the best. :D

[@TheMono25]

Is it possible to upgrade the tronxy xy-2 pro to have 2 hot ends its just I can see a 2nd space in the settings for one and I can see the Circuit board has extra connectors on the board i just don't know what i would have to buy and do to upgrade to 2x nozzles

[@AtomFlipper]

Still far off a Star Trek Replicator, Which theoretically is an instant 3d Printer that can print anything from any element. What an exciting time to be alive, to watch this technology evolve into taking over the worlds manufacturing of products... there will be a time in the future of abundance. Also remembering 3d Printers will one day accept all kinds of recycled matter, Partly solving some of the environmental issues we are currently facing... It's a good beginning. But you ain't seen nothing yet.

[@jameswebb8162]

Awesome video and keep up the great work!!

[@lucaspfmoreira]

One of the best videos so far Joe! thank you!

[@CallieCrossroad]

Great video! Had such a great time at RAPID + TCT this year and I really hope I'll be able to make it next year as well. What day were you there? I wish I could have chatted with you.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

We were there Wednesday! It's in Anaheim next year, we will DEFINITELY be there!

[@LiquiDirt3D]

Great video and so exciting to see what is next

[@jaredf6205]

You're such a great interviewer man.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Aww thank you!

[@PaulojnPereira]

The level of enthusiasm Joel places in his interviews is contagious, i really like how relaxed and easy going they are. Thank you Joel.

[@GameofKnowing]

That AON3D guy was pretty cool.

[@winstonsmith478]

"Kodak" in name only.

[@rodryk5605]

Cool. So when is this oven patent ending? ^^

[@Aidenn23]

In like 18 or so months is what I heard at Rapid.

[@jasongooden917]

Wow, Kodak still exists

[@DasGrinch]

Rick over at MakerGear has always been a great guy to work with.

[@ARVash]

At 500c you could probably pump a magnesium alloy through it and it would get hot and squishy like plastic

[@AndersJackson]

Why use scientic temperature, Celsius, but not for distances or volumes?

[@jakefromstatefarm8545]

Who cares

[@AndersJackson]

@@jakefromstatefarm8545 I do, and lots (every country outside of USA) of the world does. At least have both. I can't figure out those numbers without a calculator. Inches are soooo last century, and we all uses centigrade when doing 3D-printing, a metric scale. :-)

[@briancorbino2043]

American machining is still done in inches.

[@AndersJackson]

@@briancorbino2043 yes, and the rest of the world is doing machining in metrics. And American machining still have to be able to do it all in metrics, too, if they doesn't want to constraint the market to only US markets. So yes, I do understand why you still want to have measures in US inches, but you should still have metrics. At least as this channel is ALSO big outside of USA. So think about this channel viewers, and start using metrics too.

[@Nanolis]

Diabase looks like Skynet come to life just in order to print and CNC your death.

[@jgon12]

That creativity 3d guy almost sold me on buying that machine great presentation and machine is incredible but I remember I'm a electric engineer student and I got no money yet 🤣😂 well I gonna cry on my ender 3v2 modded for now.

[@bipolarchemist]

So...if I had a 3d printer and built a hot box around it, I could get better layer adhesion. Hmm...#futurechallenges

[@KnotHead1008]

Try to this with delrin.

[@italogarcia1597]

Diabase is the best idea, for further time