Awesome Lenses For Micro 4/3

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NigelBarros

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@villemononen5303
@villemononen5303 7 жыл бұрын
Alright! So there seems to be something special about that ye old 14mm 2.5, which i keep hearing about again and again, here and there (besides the usual mentions). Will get it then! Wouldn't necessarily need the focal length (have 12-35mm 2.8, 20mm 1.7 II and the many kit zooms that overlap), but i do covet the SIZE, and since i'm much more into smaller and smaller bodies nowadays (GM1/GM5 especially), it only makes the perfect sense. M4/3 at their finest with small, light-weight, quality lenses. It's quite a special luxury in it's own right. Thanks for this quality video, you stand-out from the sea of mediocrity with great stuff! Have a good day now!
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 7 жыл бұрын
Ville Mononen thanks a lot!
@ImpulseVigil
@ImpulseVigil 7 жыл бұрын
Might wanna hurry, it's been getting harder to find for some rain, at least in the US... Not sure why they would discontinue it, no official word either tho.
@joebuslife9275
@joebuslife9275 7 жыл бұрын
If you can afford it the 15mm f1.7 is one of the sharpest lenses for MFT and is faster than the 14mm while only being slightly bigger. There are dji versions of it too that are optically identical but you can pick up cheaper than the Leica branded ones.
@villemononen5303
@villemononen5303 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion Joseph! Looks like a fine lens indeed. I like the colors through it, it's beautiful simplistic in design plus the aperture ring. I appreciate the praised sharpness, but for me, it's not the be-all-end-all anymore. Even most quality vintage primes are certainly sharp enough (but rarely wide open of course), but with the vintage look that i often seem to prefer over the "digital". That said, quality vintage wide-angles are few and far between (often not that impressive on m4/3), so it's a bit of a different ball park. I wanted to mention that only to say, that sharpness isn't all that important anymore. Well, there's good use in both worlds, both appreciated. Manual delight when there's time and space to slow down (which i prefer), AF for faster moments / added convenience (and possible frustration with contrast AF) 15mm 1.7 is small, but not small enough for my wants. It's seems it's the difference between a small normal lens and pancake i'm interested here. Plus the price difference, i'm sure i can find the 14mm for very pleasing price in good time. It's a matter of time, patience, and some keen eye. And i'll be using it for video, so it's all good. Cheap, quality pancake that performs well, it's there with me wherever i "throw" it? Sounds excellent to me. I would jump on the Leica with no hesitation if it would have image stabilization and weather-sealing, but as it stands now, i'm not jumping on it per say :) But maybe the right moment comes around in the future, if i'm that invested. Thanks for the heads up, have a fantastic day now!
@tiger_powers
@tiger_powers 7 жыл бұрын
Own it myself and love it. Haven´t changed lenses since i own it xD. Only downside, not weather sealed & stabilization...that´s why iam thinkin of trading it. So scared getting this beauty messed up when i go outdoors.. Thought about gettin the 12-35 f2.8 instead, i know it´s 2.8 vs. 1.7 but, weather sealing and IS comes with it. I do own a 12-60 f 3.5-5.6 which is sealed as well.. Does it make sense to upgrade to the 12-35 and therefore give the two others away? Any thoughts/comparisons?
@cameraconspiracies
@cameraconspiracies 6 жыл бұрын
2 secret lenses, the Mitakon 25mm f0.95 and the Laowa 7.5mm f2. Glorious.
@shteekina6870
@shteekina6870 5 жыл бұрын
What are you doing here my hero 😁
@JulianMakes
@JulianMakes 5 жыл бұрын
i have the Laowa and i bloody LOVE IT! :)
@markhoffman9655
@markhoffman9655 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently an even bigger secret is that Olympus (with 100 years of optical manufacturing history) also make Micro 4/3 cameras and lenses - not that you would know that from this video :)) Suppose JHG is an Lumix ambassador.@@JulianMakes
@JulianMakes
@JulianMakes 5 жыл бұрын
@@markhoffman9655 I wish Mark, i'm still pretty green when it comes to filming, but my Laowa is incredible really, considering it's miniature and F2 and SO WIDE (for a mft :) i've only got 4 other lens, all the others are lumix though :)
@markguider7490
@markguider7490 5 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear someone give the Panasonic 14mm the credit it is due! A truly incredible little lens for so many things. I keep coming back to it for Street, and I bought a second one to leave on my IR converted E-PL6.
@PaulTakesPhotos
@PaulTakesPhotos 5 жыл бұрын
indeed great except for vlogging, it does hunt at times, but not even close to 20mm or 25mm in terms of focus hunting
@eltinjones4542
@eltinjones4542 5 жыл бұрын
As well as Nikon DSLR's I have LUMIX GX7 and only shoot stills. I've the 14-42 kit lens which is great for travel (size and weight) - stopped bringing the Nikons on foreign trips. I also have the Samyang 7.5 (fun lens)and 12mm (landscapes) lenses plus the Panasonic 45-150 and am considering the summilux 15mm f1.7 but don't know if I would use it enough to justify its purchase. All my filters are adapted for both DSLR and mf3 cameras. I do agree that with mf3, you need to keep the size down or what's the point? I also agree with your choice 👍
@skfineshriber
@skfineshriber 2 жыл бұрын
I don't shoot video, but I'm so glad to know others appreciate the 20/1.7 and the 14/2.5. There may not be such a tiny pancake lens for any other system that has such beautiful rendering and great IQ wide open as the 20/1.7. Put it on a GX850/880 and you have a better pocket camera than a Ricoh GR IIIx. I had one. Still have the Lumix cameras and lenses.
@Fabio-rg9nv
@Fabio-rg9nv 7 жыл бұрын
„Awesome Micro 4/3 lenses“ and not a single Olympus lens included? The 17mm, 25mm and 45mm f/1.8 are impressive lenses! Extremely fast & quiet auto focus and great optical quality! And then There‘s the 75mm f/1.8... gorgeous stuff! And the 12mm f/2, great wide angle. Olympus now also has announced new PRO prime lenses at f/1.2 (17mm, 25mm, 45mm and soon 12mm).
@brodcastization
@brodcastization 6 жыл бұрын
Olympus lenses are better than Panasonic lenses tbh
@pavelperina7629
@pavelperina7629 4 жыл бұрын
@@brodcastization Depends. I have only 45mm 1.8 and it's indeed great. But Panasonic 20mm f1.7 as well and 12-35 f2.8 and 12-60 f3.5-5.6 too. Last one is flawless as versatile travel lens and it's very sharp. I can name two lenses that are far from perfect and these are old 45-200 and 14-45 I think both from 2009. I guess Olympus has some worse pieces as well.
@PaulTakesPhotos
@PaulTakesPhotos 5 жыл бұрын
When it comes to vlogging I have used both the 14mm and the 20mm, both do hunt even when you switch to manual and facial tracking it is all over the place. That said for filming video both of them are good. I now vlog with the 12-60mm as it doesn't focus hunt. The 45mm Zuko is also an excellent video lens, for vlogging it is okay.
@Nicool333
@Nicool333 5 жыл бұрын
When I was looking at wide angle, I ended up splurging on the Olympus 12mm f2.0 over the Panasonic 14mm f2.5. In retrospect, I should have saved a few bucks (like 700 bucks actually) and gone with the 14mm. The form factor is better and it would have allowed me to pocket it whole the 20mm f1.7 was mounted. That said, the 12mm is super duper sharp and from what I recall the 14mm wasn't in the same league. Decisions decisions... This is such a first world problem...
@jgerardo231208
@jgerardo231208 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I've just discovered your videos. It's so nice to see a cool dude just going straight to the point (without trying to be funny and an annoying intro with shitty music ! ) do you have any recommendations on vintage lenses? BTW Amazing color grading. Do you have any tutorials on your workflow? I've just bought a GH5 and, coming from a Sony A7ii, the video quality is so much better !
@twoblink
@twoblink 6 жыл бұрын
I had the gen1 20mm f1.7 and it was a sharp lens; but it's super slow focus.. and I got ZERO shots of my kids running around; and I got less than 20% of the shots in focus.. So I bought the 25mm f1.7; it's quiet and fast focusing.
@CASMANWHAT
@CASMANWHAT 4 жыл бұрын
i just got the SIGMA f1/4 from your recommendation. BEST. PURCHASE. EVER.
@AidenAidens
@AidenAidens 7 жыл бұрын
Olympus bruh... Olympus! Nice vid, cheers.
@dawidnitecki9143
@dawidnitecki9143 4 жыл бұрын
My personal best are lumix 12-35 2.8 and lumix 20 1.7 They cover all for adventure filming plus give you some outstanding low light on e.g. Panasonic GH5. In my opinion a perfect combination, especially that 20mm is sized like a small box of matches
@wolfgangederer
@wolfgangederer 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! You talked about manual focus a lot. Have you made a video explaining how to work with manual focus while shooting videos? Thanks!
@gcprost
@gcprost 7 жыл бұрын
I think you have picked a couple of great lenses. I have not personally tried these. I have the Panasonic 15mm F1.7. It is my personal favorite. I also love my Panasonic 42.5 f1.7 it is great for portrait and product photography. The both will allow you to focus very close to the camera.
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 7 жыл бұрын
Gerald Prost that's good to know, I'm probably going to get the 42.5mm next!
@puledressdesigns
@puledressdesigns 6 жыл бұрын
Love love my 15mm 1.7
@beingmorenick4728
@beingmorenick4728 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nigel. Really simple, useful and informed episode for someone who’s starting out and keen not to break the bank on lens set ups!
@Craftswright
@Craftswright 5 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Didn't really hit me that you're a fellow Oregonian until the shot of Multnomah Falls...which made me start looking around your studio and I noticed the Oregon flag haha. Oregonian born and raised here, G85 shooter, and just picked up the 25mm f/1.7 last week. Great video, cheers bud!
@renanmlopes
@renanmlopes 7 жыл бұрын
Man your sample videos are the best. I really enjoy to see the images that you capture and your color grading is very pleasing to the eyes.
@samrobertstheratcliff
@samrobertstheratcliff 6 жыл бұрын
Have the original versions of the 14 and 20, great lenses especially on a small body like the GM5 I have. Especially love the 20’s rendering. As a side note, if you can find them (I imported from Japan), there’s an adapter lens kit for the 14, which has a 0.79 TC (meaning approx 22mm equiv), a “macro” close up lens and a fisheye lens. They work on the 14 and one of the kit lenses. Makes a nice small kit and if you don’t intend to use fisheye/close up much, it’s cheap. The 0.79 is great for Astro or just in tight spaces
@air_val
@air_val 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the US you guys don't hear a lot about Olympus, but they have some pretty great lenses too. the 17mm 1.8 certainly is certainly as good as the 2 first lenses you mention, they have plenty of great lenses, if you can afford it, their 7-14mm 2.8 and 12-100 4.0 are really nice lenses to work with, and this last one is maybe one of the most flexible one you'll ever own.
@shiznuts
@shiznuts 7 жыл бұрын
The 17mm f/1.8 additionally is nice because it has the manual focus de-clutch like the PRO ones. Focus-by-wire is such a drag and Olympus has found the solution, without having to go fully manual all the time. Unfortunately no such implentation on the absolutely gorgeous 75mm f/1.8. The 60mm f/2.8 Macro is one of the better macro solutions out there, it really is. The f/2.8 zooms are incredible, with the 7-14mm, 12-40mm and 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO lenses (and 1.4x TC) you can go from 7-210mm, 14-420mm 35mm equiv. with just 3 lenses (albeit pricey ones). You could argue that they have a tame, precise and a bit cold character to them, but you can't argue that they're just quality lenses. The 12-100 f/4 IS is a gem too, played around with that and an E-M1 Mark II at a Photokina afterparty sorta event last year. Though, f/4 definitely doesn't rock my boat personally. Great for daytime event type of shooting however. These Panasonic lenses mentioned in the video are fairly budget. The f/1.7 range is really good value. Of course that 20mm pancake is super small and the 25mm super affordable, but nothing that blows me away. I'm rather pleased however with the Leica 15mm f/1.7, for a Leica it's actually not at all overpriced, it's superb value! Great looking lens. The 42.5mm f/1.7 is very nice value as well and was the first Lumix prime to get OIS. Then there's third party. Not that a big fan of the Rokinon/Samyang/Walimex lenses, they used to mean very soft wide open and just not holding up very well and being all manual of course... supposedly nowadays there are a couple that really nail it though, but I haven't delved into that too much. But Sigma is doing awesome. Back in the day they had the EX DN 19, 30 & 60mm f/2.8 primes (the first two initially with grippy ring, later like the 60mm all flush metal). Mechanically they weren't the greatest, optically however true contenders and they were extremely cheap! These days it's all about DC DN. The 30mm f/1.4 DC DN is out and it's something else! They should officially launch the 16mm f/1.4 any day now. The ART and Contemporary series by Sigma are just such great value and quality, it's hard to go wrong. Then there's a whole bunch of others. Like Voigtländer... their 17.5mm f/0.95 is amazeballs! SLR Magic e.g. has the HyperPrime CINE 25mm T0.95. Zhongyi/ZY Optics/Mitakon has a very compact and more affordable 25mm f/0.95. Laowa has the 7.5mm f/2 MFT. Veydra has a cinema primes line-up of T2.2's around the 1000 bucks mark a pop. C-mount, or C-mount derived lenses are becoming a thing. 7Artisans, Kamlan, Zonlai, Meike, Neewer, etc. A brilliant thing of these mirrorless cameras: sensor stabilization. Even with 3rd party or vintage lenses, you can get away with some handheld shooting! Whether you're adapting a whole set of Contax Zeiss primes through a simple C/Y to EOS adapter and EOS to M4/3 Speedbooster or Lens Turbo (or the same that goes for Leica Summicron-R (E55)), going with the (Jason) 'Bourne lenses' (Nikon AF(-S) Nikkor ED 28-70mm f/2.8 D & 80-200mm f/2.8 D (throw in the 17-35mm f/2.8 D for good measurement) or the stills versions of the expensive Tokina Cinema AT-X range: AT-X PRO DX 11-16mm f/2.8 II, AT-X PRO FX 16-28mm f/2.8 & AT-X 535 PRO DX 50-135mm f/2.8 or legendary Angenieux design AT-X PRO II 28-70mm f/2.6-2.8. Or anything else vintage with M42 (Russians! Like the Helios 44-2 58mm f/2), FD, AI(-s), PK, MD, etc mount... you just have endless possibilities and joy!
@arneshsengupta4636
@arneshsengupta4636 6 жыл бұрын
Shiznutsz you should have a channel of your own :)
@shahal145
@shahal145 6 жыл бұрын
@@arneshsengupta4636 yea we both think alike
@ronforeman8394
@ronforeman8394 Жыл бұрын
Wow where was the waterfall and bridge located?? Looks wonderful
@renevp2
@renevp2 6 жыл бұрын
I love your color grading! :0
@xianjohn9031
@xianjohn9031 6 жыл бұрын
renevp2 me too which color grade app??
@Albanez39
@Albanez39 6 жыл бұрын
@@xianjohn9031 You can do it with any software. Premiere and Da Vinci Resolve are the best, and the latter also distributes a free version. Color grading is a matter of skill and knowledge, just like filming, directing, editing and so on. If you're lazy and have money to spend, buy LUT packs from KZbinrs and other cinematographers. Ask Nigel, maybe he can give you some for free...
@patrickdonnelly5223
@patrickdonnelly5223 3 жыл бұрын
Your sound is perfect, but you are crushing the blacks a bit. I like that you cover manual focus lenses. Any of them, even the no name ones are good and the more aberrations the better, as they may bring out the creative in the user. No bad tools only bad workmen...?
@hemantofkanpur
@hemantofkanpur 6 жыл бұрын
I loved your color grading ..Can you please do a video of how to do it ? This is the exact look I want for my Olympus em5 ii and oly 25mm f1.8
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 6 жыл бұрын
I have lut packs on my sellfy account that achieves a lot of these looks
@nicolaslachance5057
@nicolaslachance5057 7 жыл бұрын
you must live in the future, did i hear you say GH6!! thanks for the useful info
@camsvisualmedia7638
@camsvisualmedia7638 7 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Lachance he said g6
@darrendavenport3334
@darrendavenport3334 7 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Ladouce clean the shit out of your ears....
@nicolaslachance5057
@nicolaslachance5057 7 жыл бұрын
wow crazy how the internet makes people be so rude
@keithperkins9871
@keithperkins9871 7 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Lachance i know, for some reason he feels the need to resort immidiately start insulting you, kinda sucks...
@eduards_mellups
@eduards_mellups 6 жыл бұрын
Why are kids watching camera lens videos?
@heffelumpphotoco
@heffelumpphotoco 6 жыл бұрын
@2:00 that framing is absolutely awesome.
@TURST67
@TURST67 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing about the Panasonic 25mm Leica f/1.4 DG ? It's only $100 more expensive than the pancake one so I'm surprised you didn't talk about it.
@Joe_VanCleave
@Joe_VanCleave 7 жыл бұрын
I love the 7artisans 25/1.8 in MFT mount. Wonderful bokeh, with its nearly round aperture, and a great price,
@nishamkb
@nishamkb 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the info! Super helpful. I love the color grading that you are using in this video as well. Would I be able to replicate that with one of your LUT packs?
@b.ar7sy
@b.ar7sy 7 жыл бұрын
You might want to try Laowa 7.5mm f/2 cause it's not a fisheye
@N0Fat3
@N0Fat3 5 жыл бұрын
Too much expensive for nonautofocus lens
@kristaylor7119
@kristaylor7119 2 жыл бұрын
I’m debating getting the Sigma 16mm lens for MFT.
@Jon_bodhi
@Jon_bodhi 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks,man! I've been using the Sigma set up, but it is rather bulky. Aloha!
@colerumford8480
@colerumford8480 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Nigel I just found your channel and it is amazing! I love that rather than be try to sell a product or be overly enthusiastic you just chill and talk to us like we're homies. Keep it up man the videos are awesome and your shots are amazing! I'll be picking up the 14mm for my new G7
@iGameOvertv
@iGameOvertv 7 жыл бұрын
14mm f 2.5 is amazing! I use it on the GX8 and it is as sharp as they come.
@davidlisney2597
@davidlisney2597 7 жыл бұрын
That is encouraging, I have the same combination but not used the lense in anger yet.
@thisloveistakingoff7006
@thisloveistakingoff7006 6 жыл бұрын
Really awesome and helpful video! Just picked up the G85 and now have tons of options to look into.. Thank for sharing!!
@NalarAkmal
@NalarAkmal 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video Nigel!. BTW, you mention that not using autofocus in your video, so how you maintain the focus?, its still quite sharp! Commonly when I sit in front of the camera, event small movement produces unsharp video, is it because you maintain the aperture around f/2.5-4 and put good lighting or any other tricks? I am using GH3 with14 f/2.5, and a bit problem using autofocus for video, so do you mind to share about it?
@MatthiasSdun
@MatthiasSdun 6 жыл бұрын
Great advice. Thanks so much for all the information. I use the Leica 15mm 1.7 additionally. Also an awesome lens but unfortunately with OIS.
@byJor
@byJor 7 жыл бұрын
Great video Nigel! Thanks for the useful tips. I own a Lumix G80 and i'm searching for my first prime lens. After watching your video i definitely gonna buy the 20mm f1.7!
@barneyelo
@barneyelo 7 жыл бұрын
This Video comes perfect timed for me...I'm searching cheap good wide angle lenses for m4/3...thanks for the video 👌
@MontellFishMusic
@MontellFishMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Should I get the 14mm f2.5 even though I already have the 14-42 kit lens for my G7? is the lower f stop worth it? Also will it be the same wide angle or wider than the g7 kit lens (14-42) since its practically the same "mm"
@villemononen5303
@villemononen5303 6 жыл бұрын
I've just got the 14mm 2.5 (v1) and sold couple 14-42mm (v1) in the past, so i don't have them to compare right now. The main reasons for selling the zooms was that i started to prefer primes / film lenses, optics were certainly "good enough" (but wanted something better), and 12-35mm 2.8 just rocks so much that there wasn't the need anymore. 12-35mm is costly though, and that's always a consideration. Primes such as 20mm 1.7 are optically great, small and that's what i prefer nowadays. Without direct comparison, i'd say optically the 14mm and 14-42mm are roughly the same for stills. "Good enough", but not great like 20mm 1.7, or 45mm 1.8 etc. etc. Is the speed jump from f3.5 to f2.5 big enough, i wonder... Maybe. But the jump from f3.5 to ~f1.7 territory is SIGNIFICANT, that's for sure! However, the 14mm 2.5 is really nice in many other regards. It's so SO tiny (even 20mm now looks huge), so light-weight but has a good feel to it. It seems like it's well-built, well thought-out. Simple and good. Very quiet, and the AF works nicely in video too. It has many good things going for it, and i think this will be a keeper. I will work around it's "good enough" optics to shooting styles that make it shine (maybe close-ups and BW for starters), and for video it's really great. That's where it think this lens really shines, shooting video. But it's good in general use aswell. So lovely on smaller bodies too, like the GM1 / GM5 etc. But when comparing to 14-42mm, how was it again? Prices for both are roughly similar (though the zoom is cheaper), both AF well and are relatively quiet. The zoom has Stabilization (which is certainly nice and a plus), but doesn't matter all that much at the wider 14mm end... In the end, i think it boils down to if you can appreciate the smaller (tiny!) form factor of 14mm 2.5 as a benefit, and the slightly faster speed as some possible bonus. Otherwise, i'm pretty sure you can expect the same quality and fov from both, the zoom might still serve you well. 14mm is still 14mm. Jumping to 12mm (or even wider) would be WAY noticeable in my opinion. Do you prefer shooting wide, and if so, how wide? Something to consider.
@MontellFishMusic
@MontellFishMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Ville Mononen awesome thanks so much bro! Where did you sell your 14-42 at and how quickly did it go? Thinking of selling mine
@villemononen5303
@villemononen5303 6 жыл бұрын
I live in Finland, so the climate for available items / prices is something else. Availability is typically more scarce, and whatever that brings about. Here the best place to sell is www.tori.fi. Perhaps the US equivalent would be Craigslist, assuming it's still relevant? I usually spend good time in producing stand-out pictures of the items i sell. Good lighting is the most important, maybe some soft gentle light like sometimes in the kitchen etc. Light diffuser / extra light helps at times. I also often spend good time in writing about them, in honest but uplifting manner. Others are the better judges. But it seems people respond rather well most of the time. Euros should equal to dollars in these prices: 1. Early 2016 the prices were around 100€. 2. January 2017 one was sold for 85€. 3. June 2017 another was sold for 60€ (it had a small scratch of the front element, bundled with another Sigma lens). I'd say, fair price seems to be around 80-100€ still. It's a kit lens, thus very common. But not as common as the Olympus equivalent, and out of the two, the Panasonic lens is more sought-after (I.S. does it). For me, lenses are easy to sell (usually buy and sell vintage lenses). Especially now in this time of heightened interest. Selling camera bodies can take a longer while though. Usually i sell lenses during the same day, or within few days. Many people contact, and i contribute that to the care i put forth on the pictures / description. I enjoy the process, and try my best to strike a balance between an ok price and good presentation. Nowadays i can charge a bit extra for the effort put forth, they go all the same. Still, i don't want to rip anyone off, so the best is to keep it fair and nice. I'm just a hobbyist.
@MontellFishMusic
@MontellFishMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Ville Mononen ah okay sweet, thanks so much man!
@Warren3carpentry
@Warren3carpentry 3 жыл бұрын
Great informative video! I just bought a g85 and am looking at lens options! Thanks! I subbed!
@hugofalcon9802
@hugofalcon9802 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nigel!!! I am going to buy a gh5s with the 12-35 ii, VOIGTLANDER 17.5 (the 35mm is my preferred distance and what else I use ..) and I want to finish with a 42.5, I am between VOIGTLANDER 42.5 f / 0.95 and PANASONIC-LEICA 42.5 F / 1.2. What do you know about these two lenses ??? It's worth a lot of money and I'm indecisive. thank you very much and good channel!
@doma5262
@doma5262 6 жыл бұрын
Nice informative Review, The 12 to 35mm 2.8 is my current work-horse for filming, Would it be worth while in me adding a 20mm 1.7 to my lens collection ? I can see theres a better f stop, but loss of image stabilisation and weather sealing.
@pavelperina7629
@pavelperina7629 5 жыл бұрын
Quite late reply. I would not recommend 20mm 1.7 for filming at all. It's good for stills only. It focuses slowly, it retracts a bit during focusing and this has two huge cons: it's noisy and focus hunting is very visible (and audible). Loss of image stabilization is not a significant issue if you have image stabilization on sensor (G80/G85/G9/...). It might be ok in manual focus mode (fixed focus), but I'm not sure if it's suffiecient for you. For stills I'm choosing 20mm/f1.7 over 12-35/f2.8 mostly for "social events". It allows lower ISO or shorter times and less motion blur in low light situations and it has natural angle of view without zooming half way.
@thortele
@thortele 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this neat video. Very informative. I noticed most of the lenses you talk about are either wide-angle or medium far. (with 35=ca. 70mm as max length). Why is that? I also have longer lenses for my m43 and they give such nice images! Concerning this video.... where did all the contrast go?
@DiscoverSRQ
@DiscoverSRQ Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the 14mm f2.5 or 25mm f1.7 for fast, reliable and quiet autofocus?
@Luciiffeerr
@Luciiffeerr 6 жыл бұрын
I just started taking photos and it's a jungle. I like to photograph cities and buldning. Wich one of these lenses do you recommend? 20mm f1.7 or 14mm f2.5 =)
@marinpinjusic6560
@marinpinjusic6560 5 жыл бұрын
I think that is 20mm f1.7 better because sooner or later you will start shooting portraits and city props. Which one did you buy?
@SmackDream
@SmackDream 6 жыл бұрын
I had the GH5 and Panasonic Lumix G X Vario 12-35mm f/2.8 II ASPH. POWER O.I.S. Lens. Where is your noise MAN??? Enlighten me!
@Albanez39
@Albanez39 6 жыл бұрын
You can fix some noise in post. Although, I believe he is lighting himself really well and is underexposing a little with aperture or using an ND filter. If you have good or enough lights, you will never have to set you ISO over 800. I am going to buy the GH5 really soon. I'm tired of my Canon 5D Mark III with it's lousy video quality and horrible dynamic range. Is noise such a big problem with the GH5? I know it's not that good in low light, but from your comment, it looks like it's really bad
@HunGerMovies
@HunGerMovies 5 жыл бұрын
Probably low iso lowest sharpness.
@howieyoungmedia7139
@howieyoungmedia7139 4 жыл бұрын
Nigel - Thanks for making this video. Will these lenses work with the Lumix G6? Have you produced any how to shoot with vintage lenses and Lumix cameras KZbin videos?
@edhwin
@edhwin 6 жыл бұрын
friend greetings I found this entity "7artisans 25mm F1.8 Manual Focus Prime Fixed Lens for Olympus and Panasonic Micro Four Thirds MFT M4 / 3" this lens its focal length is exact for my bmpcc or I also apply the multiplication factor x3 thank you !!
@elpmettsol
@elpmettsol 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, very informative presentation. Will these lenses also work with the new Black Magic Cinema camera soon to be released? I would assume so, but any conformation you could provide would be appreciated. :)
@LudwigPB
@LudwigPB 3 жыл бұрын
cool recommendations and beautiful shots especially with these lovely pancake lenses🙏
@Nanciford
@Nanciford 6 жыл бұрын
This helped so much with what camera lense and camera to buy next! Thank you, got a new sub :)
@hoverparagliding
@hoverparagliding 6 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend for filming paragliding from the air, ive got the g7 but need a lens that's stable, wide. I get really good footage with my go pro, but want the same field of view but with my g7, on a budget. If your unsure what kind of filming I do, to get an idea see my latest video and you'll know what I mean, which is from a gopro. Didnt get great footage at all from my standard 14-42 lense on my g7. Ps great video
@thedavidbrother2
@thedavidbrother2 7 жыл бұрын
I'd say you should also try and/or recommend the Olympus 17mm 1:8. Best lens I ever tried. Period.
@adriandeveraaa
@adriandeveraaa 6 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add (correct me if I am wrong) that the 7.5mm will not distort when recording in 4k due to the cropping factor of the M43.
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 6 жыл бұрын
harken it will still distort due to the characteristics of the lens itself
@adriandeveraaa
@adriandeveraaa 6 жыл бұрын
True but the barrel distortion will is not as pronounced in 4k (it is still there though)
@waterorthewave
@waterorthewave 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know what f-stop you were shooting at on those first couple shots of the 20mm f1.7? (waterfall and walking through woods) They look great
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 6 жыл бұрын
waterorthewave yes those were at f2 at the waterfall and f1.7 in the woods
@williamhundley6536
@williamhundley6536 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Nigel! I have a Lumix G85 and I'm needing to film a music video. What lens would you recommend? I want to do a lot of slow motion in 1080p and have some nice background blur too. I have the kit lens, 12-60mm. Thanks!
@NauticalSantanu
@NauticalSantanu 5 ай бұрын
Thnx man. Following you for the M4/3
@manuscritosurbanos3117
@manuscritosurbanos3117 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video. I want to know your opinion about the panasonic 14 45 mm. Thnks
@KohiOcha
@KohiOcha 4 жыл бұрын
What's the 50mm f1.8, 24-70mm f2.8, 70-200mm f2.8 equivalent to micro four thirds lens?
@AviRichards
@AviRichards 7 жыл бұрын
Nigel, awesome video man! I love your color grading! I use a GH5 as well, typically with the sigma 18-35 and I would love to know two things. 1. What color profile do you use? 2. Do you have any luts you recommend/what do you do to grade. Thanks so much! Looking forward to seeing more content :)) PS. Your lut page doesn't seem to work
@ch3ckm8
@ch3ckm8 5 жыл бұрын
How does the Panasonic 14mm f2.5 compare to the kit lens at the same focal length? Is there significant difference in image quality that will make it worth spending extra $150.
@benbowman1283
@benbowman1283 5 жыл бұрын
Are any of those lenses weather sealed? If not, how careful do I need to be with dust moisture? New to this kind of photography, trying to learn what I can. Thanks.
@martin.gerlach
@martin.gerlach 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. But one thing seems not right. Sigma 18-35mm with nikon mount doesn´t have a aperture ring. Aperture control is also electronic.
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 7 жыл бұрын
Dicker Wikinger Nikon mount lenses can have the aperture controlled manually through adapters, there's a small lever on the back end of Nikon mount lenses that allows the aperture to be controlled manually.
@martin.gerlach
@martin.gerlach 7 жыл бұрын
Ahh I thought you mean the lens itself. but.. holy sh.. I bought the sigma for canon mount because i have lens turbo II from ef - mft but if i had known this earlier .. oh man :D At this moment I always shoot it wide open. I saving some money on the metabones. Could be lot easier.
@Boorifee
@Boorifee 7 жыл бұрын
nice vid bro, if you were to choose rokinon 12mm or pana 20mm which one will you choose
@paulgilbert4
@paulgilbert4 7 жыл бұрын
Dude that was a great video! Thanks for the lens info! Now I know what to get. I love your video style too! They look dreamy and cinematic. Thanks.
@malnevets7425
@malnevets7425 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for you video! I am getting the 20mm f1.7 today. Also I am wondering what lens hood/ adaptor you have on it?
@DavidHernandezLovesYou
@DavidHernandezLovesYou 5 жыл бұрын
Great review Nigel! QUESTION: Do either the 14mm & 12-35mm have stabilization? Thank you!
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 5 жыл бұрын
The 12-35 does, the 14 doesn’t 👍🏻
@DavidHernandezLovesYou
@DavidHernandezLovesYou 5 жыл бұрын
@@NigelBarrosthanks sir! I have the G85 which has internal stabilization, would that help smooth out the video on the 14mm?
@shujingchen7171
@shujingchen7171 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Nigel! I just came across your channel and just wanted to say love your video style and content! I am just getting into photography, can you provided me some recommendation for a lense for any travel landscape photography purpose? most of the lenses i have came across are more for portraits. Thank you!
@tattoobillyvon9764
@tattoobillyvon9764 6 жыл бұрын
Nice, I have so far Lumix 14,20,25,45-150, 45-200, 8-18mm and Helios 44-2 Russian lens.
@ChoiceMediaWorks
@ChoiceMediaWorks 6 жыл бұрын
What lavalier system are you using for this system/ Sound great.
@halomaniackslashcraz
@halomaniackslashcraz 6 жыл бұрын
Question about the pancake lens, if its 20mm but actually 40mm, can that be considered wide?
@polaris911
@polaris911 5 жыл бұрын
do you have any tips for manual focus while shooting video? I noticed on the GH2, if you manual focus while recording video, it won't zoom in and there's no focus peaking on this camera. So it's difficult to tell whether I'm making the focus better or worse.
@AyanZubaneyev
@AyanZubaneyev 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nigel. Great video with usefull info for newbie in Micro 4/3 system.
@SMGJohn
@SMGJohn 5 ай бұрын
Leica or Olympus F1.4 or faster, nothing else matters, or adapt Canon primes
@AlexisRichard
@AlexisRichard 6 жыл бұрын
Thanx man for the tips! Which one is the best stability wise?
@allthingsdandan.2711
@allthingsdandan.2711 6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your channel Nigel :) thank you for that. Do you shoot in V-Log? I'm debating whether to buy it or not. Many thanks!
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 6 жыл бұрын
All Things DanDan. No, I shot this on the gh3 and g6 they both don’t offer v-log or cinlike d. I shot in natural with all the saturation and contrast turned down. Hope that helps!
@allthingsdandan.2711
@allthingsdandan.2711 6 жыл бұрын
NigelBarros it does thank you Nigel! I’m just reading so many conflicting opinions with the Cinelike d profile. Not much information on -noise reduction to +noise reduction and haven’t done any tests myself yet. Thanks again. You the man!
@allthingsdandan.2711
@allthingsdandan.2711 6 жыл бұрын
Might have to try some stuff with the natural setting though. Have seen a lot of lovely footage with similar settings.
@androidgameplays4every13
@androidgameplays4every13 2 жыл бұрын
Are you using a step up ring on the 20 mm? can you share the amazon link to it?
@dookieswhoisthese
@dookieswhoisthese 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, what is the filter you are using through out?
@TrailAmbience
@TrailAmbience 2 жыл бұрын
Okay so I'm 5years late to the party but will still ask. Do you mind sharing how you color graded, luts used and settings you used for this vide? Thank you so much And the filter link and the Luts link do not open or available..
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 2 жыл бұрын
Just updated the link to my LUTs on my website, I used the northwest pack and Volume 1 pack to grade the outdoor shots in this video 👍🏽
@TrailAmbience
@TrailAmbience 2 жыл бұрын
@@NigelBarros thank you. I looked but not sure if it's what you are referring to north west pack volume 1? Is it the PNW? Do you happen to have link to their website or to actual pack? I'm basically looking to shoot trails, forests, streets and cities. Looking for ones that won't ruin skin tones. Thanks a bunch
@tommydommi
@tommydommi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! Awesome Video with much information. I like the 12-35mm f2.8 and the Leica 12-60mm because of its versatility for filmmaking + Photography. I also own 42.5mm f1.7 for portait shots and i love the blur and sharpness :)))
@xanfus
@xanfus 6 жыл бұрын
Good info man! Expecting my GH5 tomorrow, and I'm ready to rock!
@pjcardone164
@pjcardone164 7 жыл бұрын
Great video......I have a couple of MFT cameras so appreciate your tips. However, what is that feather duster on the top of your camera! smile
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 7 жыл бұрын
Pj Cardone haha you mean my microphone?
@Chariotbon23
@Chariotbon23 5 жыл бұрын
for landscapes, which one do you recommend? and nature?, i love macro photo... i own a gh4 :)
@JuliusPfeiffer
@JuliusPfeiffer 7 жыл бұрын
Nice Video! I Own a 12 - 35 2.8 myself and a 25mm 1.7 I think this combo does cover almost every situation. But i m looking for a more tele-like lense. Can u recomment one?
@villemononen5303
@villemononen5303 7 жыл бұрын
First you have to establish what's tele enough for you. Is the classic Olympus 45mm 1.8 "tele enough" for you? Cheap, SHARP, GREAT portrait lens and for general purpose, small, something magical about it. Odd in size. Classic for a reason. Something longer? Prime or zoom? If you want something considerably longer, old 135mm vintage primes are excellent, almost every one of them i try (and cheap). Love them, love them, love them! But stabilized body would be preferable, or good light conditions, good technique of course, tripod perhaps. Two of my older pictures with 135 mm lenses to get the feel. Zoom in if you dare: flic.kr/p/H2FYYb flic.kr/p/Jm3X7N Maybe you need to get some hands-on experience, go to a shop and try them out, what works for you. Or buy vintage lenses for cheap, adapt, maybe that helps to decide what range you prefer. Sell onward if they don't serve you. There you go. It's not much, but it's something :)
@JuliusPfeiffer
@JuliusPfeiffer 7 жыл бұрын
Ville Mononen thanks a lot for this long reply! Gonna try out some vintage lenses i guess! :)
@villemononen5303
@villemononen5303 7 жыл бұрын
There's lots of goodies there, especially with primes. Just lately i've been thoroughly impressed with the plasticy nFD (new FD) lenses, everyone of the them far has been quite awesome (for vintage lenses), even wide open. Now i understand what the talk about Canon lens quality has been. nFD 50mm 1.4 / 35mm 2.8 / 80-210mm 4.0. If you get lucky, might get them for cheap. Plus a focal reducer and just wow. Pentax-M rocks aswell, one just HAS to experience the focus ring and general feel of these lovely Pentaxes. There's lot to love. There's just so many good primes, so see what comes in your way. Maybe even buy one generic vintage zoom (though they're often not that great on m4/3), for example Pentax-M 80-200mm 4.5, maybe for 20-30€ if you get lucky. Typically with vintage lenses you need to stop down 1 to 2 stops to get good results, but nFD lenses have been quite good even wide open which is a huge surprise. Might want to pay a little extra for a tripod mounted adapter, if you have a tripod. Vintage lenses are often more heavier. G.A.S. (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) might occur, so be aware :) There's balance to everything. Alright, good luck in finding your next interest. It's just a matter of time really.
@quickpickle
@quickpickle 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah panasonic was like praised so much for all their lenses they have available .. but a noisy autofocus prime with no image stabilization is pretty much worthless to me when considering whats on the market these days.
@klasmvm4966
@klasmvm4966 6 жыл бұрын
ended up picking the 25mm 1,7 up, thanks
@sironconi938
@sironconi938 6 жыл бұрын
great video, really helped my friend who is looking to get a G7 as their first cam for shooting videos! I have seen your vids before - keep it up! I may convert myself to m43!
@davnesto
@davnesto 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like the 14mm focal length for vlogging not that wide, when hand holding your camera. 😅
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 7 жыл бұрын
DavidFromSwitzerland maybe but I know several people that vlog with that lens, there's also a wide angle adapter for that lens if you needed a wider shot
@Siimonte
@Siimonte 7 жыл бұрын
NigelBarros Can you tell who vlogs with 14mm? Just wanna see example vlogs with it since i wonder to buy this lens.
@YourOwnAdventure
@YourOwnAdventure 6 жыл бұрын
Great video dude. It was the best example I could find. Keep shreddin!
@iangillan1296
@iangillan1296 5 жыл бұрын
Thnx for information. I have GH4 and use it with Sigma 18-35 ART. But now I really want to buy autofocus lens. Does 14mm f2.5 autofocus while filming? I read it is very old.
@NigelBarros
@NigelBarros 5 жыл бұрын
There is a version two of that lens that I really like. It does ok in autofocus but you can expect it to be as good as a canon or Sony. In gave tracking autofocus is does pretty well
@RavikantRai21490
@RavikantRai21490 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Nigel, how do you manage manual focus on video with these focus-by-wire non-video lenses? Especially while moving.
@mixedfuses8pack48
@mixedfuses8pack48 5 жыл бұрын
Just copped a G7 with 14mm 2.5 for 400 bucks. V nervous. Hope I love it! Thanks for the inspo dud.
@liamsilly
@liamsilly 5 жыл бұрын
How are you enjoying it? I’m curious, can it be used as a POV lens, if you were to hold the camera to your body and stick an arm out in front of the camera, do you get your full arm in the frame?
@arlprk
@arlprk 4 жыл бұрын
Hi,20mm f1.7 II good for interview shots for GH4?
@murat.buyukcolpan
@murat.buyukcolpan 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you to help.do you favor me.i will ask a question.i want 2 diffarent lens.then i have got 2 adapter?
@malnevets7425
@malnevets7425 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Nigel , great video. Just wondering which lens hood is that on the 20mm pancake ?
@villemononen5303
@villemononen5303 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like a simple step-up ring (46mm to 58mm), the same you can see on the 14mm 2.5. Not so much for shading purposes obviously (typical use for a lens hood), but i would guess to be used with filters (CPL etc.), and some added protection (plus bigger lens cap). 12-35mm 2.8 shares the same 58mm filter size, so he would use the same filter(s) in all of them. Another choice would be a generic vented hood, if you're into those kinds of things. - 46mm vented lens hood (black and silver) -> www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_sop=15&_nkw=46mm+vented+lens+hood&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1 - 43mm snap-on lens cap (inside vented hood) -> www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_sop=15&_nkw=43mm+snap-on+lens+hood&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1 You can get the 43mm snap-on lens cap cheaper too, but here i wanted to point to the desirable type. There's no bayonet options for 20mm. Alright, have a good day now and happy shooting!
@LiviJoyann
@LiviJoyann 7 жыл бұрын
I'm very new to buying my own camera equipment, so thank you very much for the helpful video! Are all of these lenses native MFT mounts or would you need to buy an adapter? I'm looking specifically at the Panasonic 20 or 25mm.
@villemononen5303
@villemononen5303 7 жыл бұрын
All lenses mentioned on the video (except Sigma 18-35mm 1.8) are native, aswell as the 20mm 1.7 and 25mm 1.7 you mentioned. Optimized for m4/3, often in size aswell. Lens + adapter would show up in noticeably bigger size / bulk (especially in comparison to these little tiny wonderful pancakes). Pros and cons to both, each their own use. Still, there are some adaptable mounts that can be somewhat smallish in size too. Like the C-mount (TV / Surveillance) for example, but rarely used to for "serious" work. Or Leica L39, Konica AR, Canon FD etc. etc. Konica has had some nice pancakes / small lenses back in day. Soviet / Leica / Leica-clone lenses for L39, like the Industar-61 for example (great for macro). Not pancake, but small nonetheless. Furthermore about adapting lenses -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWLdgIOZiK-rqac Well, welcome to the mirrorless community and happy shooting! You'll be capturing great shots in no time. Be well!
@killinfilms879
@killinfilms879 6 жыл бұрын
What's the benefit of using primes over zooms
@centell100
@centell100 5 жыл бұрын
bro which one would you choose for music videos and a lil short filming???
@ReneSebastian
@ReneSebastian 6 жыл бұрын
I'm really in love with the range of the 12-35mm but I hate the pull-by-wire focus. I'm used to focus rings that you can memorize and this one just doesn't do that. How do you experience it?
@MikkelGrumBovin
@MikkelGrumBovin 6 жыл бұрын
thats an oxymoron - "pull focus by wire" :-D
@ReneSebastian
@ReneSebastian 6 жыл бұрын
And yet you got the point ;-)
@ensanchefilms9612
@ensanchefilms9612 6 жыл бұрын
I think the same. That’s why I sold the 12-35mm, and I’m a little sad... It is an awesome lens, awesome focal range, fantastic stabilization and quality. The thing is that I use the GH4 for video, and I’m getting manual primes (I have a 25 1.8 and 12 f2, and I plan to buy the Laowa 7.5 soon and maybe a 45mm or so later) because AF isn’t an option, and the manual focus by wire is a disaster working with follow focus systems. If you use cinema rigs, it’s alright with the lack of internal stabilization of these primes.
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