The Lone Ranger Meets the Charles Manson Gang! True Story! Clayton & Dawn Moore at Spahn Ranch! AWOW

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A Word on Westerns

A Word on Westerns

Күн бұрын

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@PaulKyriazi
@PaulKyriazi 3 жыл бұрын
About the Manson murders, Clayton said in his book: “When I read about the murders, I couldn’t help but think; Those murderers had once been innocent kids who may have been fans of The Lone Ranger. How did they take such a wrong turn in their lives? It made me more determined to stand for decency, honesty, and compassion. If kid’s minds are shaped by outside forces, then I was determined that my influence, however small, would be for good … always.”
@Brian-bp5pe
@Brian-bp5pe 2 жыл бұрын
I am just a little bit older than Dawn Moore; older by maybe a year, or so. And I remember the news reports from back then - who could forget such a thing? Evil. Senseless and gratuitous evil. None of it made any sense back then and very little of it is understandable, now. The "recreational" psychotropic drugs used by the group certainly altered their perceptions and judgement. It is likely that others, in addition to Manson, were burdened with mental health problems; either preceeding, or as a result of their frequent, casual drug use. It is a very sad, nightmarish story - one that is as horrific as any from Stephen King.
@PaulKyriazi
@PaulKyriazi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Brian-bp5pe Well said, Brian. The drugs must have been a big part of it. Linda Ronstadt said, "Timothy Leary should be dropped out of a window. Everyone I know who took LSD never reached their full potential."
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 3 жыл бұрын
There is only one Lone Ranger, and he is and always will be Clayton Moore.
@TheRealDrJoey
@TheRealDrJoey 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa, there! What about Bill Conrad?
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealDrJoey No, he's Matt Dillon. ;-)
@TheRealDrJoey
@TheRealDrJoey 3 жыл бұрын
@@Paladin1873 Oh! Right you are. I think my dad even knew the guy in Detroit who played TLR on radio...Something Foy?
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealDrJoey The three main actors who played the role of the Lone Ranger were George Seaton (in 1933), Earle Graser (1933-1941), and Brace Beemer (1941-1954).
@TheRealDrJoey
@TheRealDrJoey 3 жыл бұрын
@@Paladin1873 I don't know where I got the Foy name from...the dim mists of time? I do remember watching the show on Saturdays with my dad, and a couple times, at the beginning of the show my dad said, "I heard the Lone Ranger is going to get killed this week..."
@hiramnoone
@hiramnoone 3 жыл бұрын
Dawn's recollections of her dad were a real treat. It was pure arrogance of the show's producers to think that The Lone Ranger was replaceable or that those boomer kids were so unsophisticated that they could be fooled by just any lame imposter in a mask. And not recognize the *real* Lone Ranger when they heard him. With that distinctive voice he had, Clayton Moore owned that role. And there were no acceptable substitutes. Not then. And not now.
@waynegilchrist1596
@waynegilchrist1596 3 жыл бұрын
After seeing this interview with Dawn, we can truly appreciate how uncannily accurate and insightful Quintin Tarantino can be in his accounts of real life events. This could have gone so disastrously and tragically different for Dawn and our beloved Western hero, "The Lone Ranger"! Clayton Moore certainly got some raw deals from some shrewd businessmen of Hollywood. He really deserved a fairer share but perhaps the greatest injustice was being banned from wearing that iconic mask. That privilege being restored had to have been a heartfelt event that highlighted his final years. Dawn was beautiful, delightful, and very informative. Hope to see her on your program again; I am sure she has plenty more stories to share about, "who that masked man was!" Thanks Rob for a great Sunday fare to start off our week.
@silvervalleystudios2486
@silvervalleystudios2486 3 жыл бұрын
I was also thinking about how lucky they were that it didn't go pear shaped. Those hippies were cooked on drugs and could have turned at any time. They killed Donald Shea, a stuntman who worked on the ranch because he had an argument with Charles Manson.
@slimturnpike
@slimturnpike Жыл бұрын
Except in the movie, George doesn't cry or show any sadness when Cliff visits him.
@karenleemallonee684
@karenleemallonee684 Жыл бұрын
What a lovely lady, oh my goodness, what wonderful memories & stories she shared! Thank God, He kept them both safe that day, I truly believe in His timing!!! Thank you, Rob! 👍👍
@harveymulock5891
@harveymulock5891 3 жыл бұрын
My first time for seeing Moore's daughter and I am smitten. What a beautiful woman. Articulate and respectful. Unlike so many celebtity's kids.
@geoprof6993
@geoprof6993 5 ай бұрын
She was born in the 1950s. She is one of the Baby Boomer generation. That generation, -- of all the generations, -- that came later, knows how to be humble and respectful.
@jaketanner20001
@jaketanner20001 2 жыл бұрын
I am 70 years old and proud to say The Lone Ranger was one of my childhood heroes! Tonto too!
@rsykesjr
@rsykesjr 3 жыл бұрын
I was not aware of the Spahn Ranch visit. And I agree… there was only one Lone Ranger and that was Clayton Moore. Dawn really favors her father and I can tell she is a very nice lady. Thanks again Rob for another great interview.
@geoprof6993
@geoprof6993 5 ай бұрын
Spahn ranch was just down the road [Santa Susana Pass] from the Iverson ranch.
@douglasthompson9482
@douglasthompson9482 2 жыл бұрын
God Bless Clayton Moore. Thank you Dawn and Rob for keeping our hero alive. Like Superman he is Truth , Justice and the American Way.
@steveww1507
@steveww1507 Жыл бұрын
As a kid my dad was not around much and I would watch reruns of the lone Ranger and Tonto . They were Great role models for a young boy . I still watch them when I can and get a tingle down my spine at the end when they ride away and I'm 56 . I hope dawn knows how much here dad meant to so many kids . Thank you
@pilot968
@pilot968 3 жыл бұрын
The mention of merchandising brings to mind a family story that my parents would laugh at decades later. When my brother was about five my family was living in the UK, where my Air Force father was stationed. One day my mother walked to the local small grocery and saw there was a life size cardboard cutout of the Lone Ranger, both guns drawn, that was a promotion for some product. She asked the grocer if he would give her the cutout when the promotion was done, explaining my brother was crazy for the Lone Ranger, and he kindly gave it to her on the spot. She walked home with groceries in one arm and the Lone Ranger tucked under the other, and set up the cutout in my brother's bedroom. After she put my brother to bed for the night, my father went to check on him, and when he opened the bedroom door the light fell first on the Lone Ranger standing directly across the door with his guns pointed at my father. My dad instinctively let out a yell and jumped backwards, bringing my mother on the run. By then my father realized his mistake but was now annoyed that my mother had forgotten to warn him that the Lone Ranger was now on permanent guard over my brother! Unfortunately the cutout did not make the trip back to the US. Imagine what it would be worth today. And yes, there was, and will be, only one Lone Ranger: Clayton Moore.
@mikecudmore4760
@mikecudmore4760 3 жыл бұрын
They are out there. A guy I know had one in his basement.
@dawnmoore7894
@dawnmoore7894 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, this literally made me laugh out loud! Hilarious! Your mother sounds like a sweetheart.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Great story, pilot. Sorry you don't have the cutout still.
@MrTrav1988
@MrTrav1988 3 жыл бұрын
I’m the brother pilot referred to above. I have a color photo of me when I was 4 sitting in front of the TV waiting for The Lone Ranger to come on. I’m dressed in a cowboy hat and wearing a gun belt with two white-handled cap guns. I’m sitting on a plastic horse attached to a metal frame with springs so that I can go into action at the first sound of the William Tell Overture. I remember that life-size cutout, which was in color. In the 1980s I met Clayton Moore in San Antonio, Texas, when he was doing a promotion for a company called Handy Dan. He was wearing dark glasses instead of the mask. I told him I was the artist commissioned to make the Frontier Battalion Monument for the Former Texas Rangers Association. I told him he was my childhood hero and that I was thrilled to meet him. We didn’t have time to talk much because many people were standing in line waiting, like me, to get his autograph. But for just a few brief moments I was spellbound with this legendary man.
@rmelin13231
@rmelin13231 6 ай бұрын
@@MrTrav1988 One of the most enjoyable reminiscences I've read yet. I can feel your appreciation for someone who meant so much to so many of us. Well phrased, thank you for sharing.
@dff409hobie5
@dff409hobie5 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful daughter keep his memory alive with her and you Rob.. As we now there was one Clayton Moore and ONLY one THE LONE RANGER. Thank You so much for this Cheers
@z512345
@z512345 Жыл бұрын
He was defiantly my hero when I was a child.
@mikehagan4320
@mikehagan4320 3 жыл бұрын
So was George Spahn ever harmed by the Manson people? Clayton Moore and the Lone Ranger was a Huge Influence on Who I Became as a Person. Though I had Many influences. I Clearly Remember placing High Value on the " Lone Ranger Creed." And even Thinking when hearing of the Mask/Sunglasses story at the time. How Moore and the Lone Ranger was My Hero and How Proud and Happy for Him that I Was. Dawn is a Wonderful Story Teller and I Thank Her and Rob for Keeping Heroes Alive for a New Generation. Best Wishes from Montana! M.H.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mike. I don't believe George was ever harmed by them.
@jokeroneninesevenzero
@jokeroneninesevenzero 3 жыл бұрын
The Manson family didn't physically hurt George. What they did do is tarnish the man's last name forever.
@dawnmoore7894
@dawnmoore7894 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, it's nice to hear that the Lone Ranger Creed was important to you. It was to my father, and it's certainly become something of a North Star for me, too.
@mikehagan4320
@mikehagan4320 3 жыл бұрын
@@dawnmoore7894 Thank You for your Comment back to Me. It's nice to see a lady suggest that Values are important to them too. I Like how you use the Metaphor of " Something of a North Star." As you have a Smooth way of speaking. Perhaps that's part of why you are such an Entertaining Story teller and so Popular with so many of the " Word on Western" Viewers. Reading others comments tells one so. Thanks again and for Keeping Your Fathers Legacy Alive. It Really Does mean something of Great Value to Some of us and Ultimately to Our Country. My Sincerest Best Wishes from Montana! M.H.
@thevalley1
@thevalley1 3 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful and heartfelt interview with her, Rob. I loved all the jaunts down Dawn's memory lane. Thank you for sharing this.
@MThomas001
@MThomas001 3 жыл бұрын
Great interview. She is awesome. Great stories, The Lone Ranger! How cool is that!
@elizabethbeckman1947
@elizabethbeckman1947 3 жыл бұрын
What a gift to so many, Rob - the memories and the surprises. You and Dawn deliver an excellent interview. Thank you. I knew someone briefly in the early '80s who had been in the supporting cast of The Lone Ranger. Barbara Knudson Henry spoke highly of Clayton Moore, a remarkable man, their friendship, lifelong.
@kingskountry1246
@kingskountry1246 3 жыл бұрын
Great walk through history with Dawn.
@lindajacobs277
@lindajacobs277 3 жыл бұрын
The year was 1949. The little town where I lived had just got this thing called television, and my grandpa to me to the barber shop to see this thing. I had been a fan of the Lone Ranger on the radio for quite some time, and there he was on TV in the barber shop. First show my 5 year old self saw on that TV was the Lone Ranger! My 5 year old heart was in love. I always wanted to meet Me. Moore but never got the chance. When he died my daughter went and bought me a set of all his movies.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Nice daughter, Linda. You did well. Thanks for sharing your memories, too.
@jimross7648
@jimross7648 3 жыл бұрын
As I said before Dawn Moore, like so many of your guests, is a great interviewee. As always you get most out a interview that a man in tight jeans could hope to get. It simply amazes me, that the members of the Manson family, had so many interactions with well known members of the music, film and TV industry. I though the scene in ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLYWOOD was just another creation from Quentin Tarantino's imagination. To learn it was basically a recreation of an actual interaction between Clayton Moore and members of the family would have never crossed my mind. Once again another great episode. Thanks muchly Rob.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jim. Much appreciated!
@cynthiacupler8005
@cynthiacupler8005 2 жыл бұрын
I had the greatest honor to meet, Clayton Moore/The lone Ranger, at the Denver Colorado, Children's hospital,I will never forget Him,R.I.P. Mr.Moore.❤️
@caveman3021
@caveman3021 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard Clayton Moore was instrumental in preserving the Lone Ranger Rock. He convinced residents of the new condos to let it remain there. They had wanted it removed as they felt it blocked their view. Thanks for posting this fascinating video 🙂👍
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, C Man
@broadwayrealtorsbroadwaypr1175
@broadwayrealtorsbroadwaypr1175 3 жыл бұрын
Rob Word rides again! Remember when they told Clayton he couldn't wear the mask. Thought that really stunk (ok, I was young and my vocabulary wasn't salty yet). Then he came out with the sunglasses and thought that was so cool 😎 There is only 1 Lone Ranger, that's Clayton Moore.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, BR
@robatsea2009
@robatsea2009 3 жыл бұрын
That was a spectacular (if unnerving) story. I definitely remember the battles Clayton underwent where the mask was not allowed, and he just pressed on with it despite the hurdles. I might be in a minority for having enjoyed the 1981 movie but that has nothing to do with the lead actor and everything to do with the supporting cast & stunt performers who still shine through - but Claytons' always, always going to be THE Lone Ranger. I didn't even get to see much of the show growing up but was enthralled by "The Lone Ranger and the Lost City of Gold", which seemed to be an afternoon movie staple for so long.
@davidschlecht3016
@davidschlecht3016 3 жыл бұрын
Rob, this was a super special look back on a little history of Clayton Moore and getting the low down with is daughter Dawn just brings back the honesty and goodness that the LONE Ranger, Clayton Moore represented. I would like to see more with Dawn and the life growing up with the history of the LONE RANGER.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, David. Attached is more with Dawn. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6CsZXinlLZolck
@fokkerd3red618
@fokkerd3red618 3 жыл бұрын
The Lone Ranger was a show all of us kids watched. It was a must see show for me, back in the early 60's.
@er5406
@er5406 3 жыл бұрын
Thank Miss Dawn for us. Stories about THE Lone Ranger - what more needs to be said. Wow.
@takkmoran9770
@takkmoran9770 3 жыл бұрын
As a 'Lone Ranger' fan, I had heard some of what you covered here Rob, but most of it was new to me. It was a very interesting interview and Dawn Moore seems to be a wonderful person, just like her dad. Thanks Rob for another enlightening and vary enjoyable episode!!!!
@onelovechild1307
@onelovechild1307 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this interview! So interesting! 🌹
@JMVideos7676
@JMVideos7676 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing in the old westerns like Clayton Moore popping a wheelie with Silver on the top of that hill. I'll remember it forever. Great interview with his daughter - Thanks.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jeff. Hi-Yo, Silver. Awaay!
@11JohnBooker22
@11JohnBooker22 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob and team for another GRRRREAT interview. Interesting insider view of the Spahn ranch situation between Mr. Moore and the gang. Q.T.'s movie is another one of my favorites and the Spahn ranch scene is cinematic magic. It was wonderful to see Dawn and know she's well.
@prycerobertson4695
@prycerobertson4695 3 жыл бұрын
Dawn Moore is a beautiful and special lady.
@superharry484
@superharry484 3 жыл бұрын
Too beautiful to put into words. She looks so young.
@sunsetmotionpictures1418
@sunsetmotionpictures1418 3 жыл бұрын
Wow Thank you Dawn that was 😎 Voyles Digital Cinema Productions FB and KZbin!
@bravobravoh1344
@bravobravoh1344 3 жыл бұрын
She's cool. great interview
@rockymarciano1203
@rockymarciano1203 3 жыл бұрын
This is another great interview , my childhood watching these great heroes of the past was the best times of my life and its something we don't have anymore , which is call role models .
@johnnewcomb534
@johnnewcomb534 3 жыл бұрын
So thankful that you are able to get these people to give their interviews .This is a great interview.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John. Glad you like them.
@ronh8199
@ronh8199 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping these legends alive. Loved the sitting down in tight pants bit.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ron
@bumper2633
@bumper2633 3 жыл бұрын
My dad got paid on Friday and we would go to the grocery store. While my mom shopped, Dad and I would listen to "The Lone Ranger" on the car radio. Clayton Moore brought the character to life. No disrespect to John Hart but he wasn't the "real" Masked Man". Fond memories. Great interview..Thank you.
@je5tran
@je5tran 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed another episode of 'A Word on Westerns.' I, coincidentally, bought the whole DVD set at the beginning of this year. I, also, have the complete set of 'Sky King' and 'The High Chaparral.' There is 'The Rifleman' channel for our viewing pleasurel on my streaming system, so I don't have to get that set, just yet. I always enjoy your shows. Thanks for keeping TV Westerns and movies remembered. I live in Tucson and would love to be a part of your audience, someday. Thanks, again!.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again, je5. We'd love for you to be part of our audience. Hope we're able to resume taping at the Autry soon. I will be doing about 12 live celebrity interviews Oct 7-11, 2021, at the Lone Pine Film Festival. Hope you can join us there. Going horseback riding in the Alabama Hills, too!
@joestrangio3603
@joestrangio3603 3 жыл бұрын
@@AWordonWesterns Thanks, Rob, for the info about the film festival! On another note, I just saw that Don Collier (Sam, the ranch foreman on The High Chaparral) just passed away. I got to chat with him for a couple of minutes at a High Chaparral Reunion at The Old Tucson Movie Studios in 2013. May Don Collier rest in peace.
@waynevia6976
@waynevia6976 3 жыл бұрын
The best way to start a sunday. I loved that Tarantino movie. The lone ranger is awesome and the fonz's hero on happy days. I'm happy to know what really happened on the spahn ranch that day. Have a great day rob. This is my favorite channel on youtube.
@miked6335
@miked6335 9 ай бұрын
John Hart shows up as The Lone Ranger on 'Happy Days'.
@stephenannese8228
@stephenannese8228 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid Rob,....i was a big fan of Clayton,...watched every episode as a kid in the 70's ( reruns)....i remember the John Hart "switch" like we saw on "Bewitched/2-Darins", and was happy Clayton came back on even in reruns,...i actually remember where I was when I read Clayton's obit/Boston Globe....*yup a newspaper*.
@francesrude3007
@francesrude3007 Жыл бұрын
I am happy I saw this. Thanks for posting. I am 80yrs. old and these memories are so nice. I watch and rewatch all the Lone Ranger shows( and all the other westerns also. Thanks again. I am glad to see his daughter also. God Bless.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Frances. Thanks
@garyolivier792
@garyolivier792 3 жыл бұрын
I never watched an episode of WOW that I didn't like. Can't wait for the next one Rob!! Thank you for doing these!!
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Gary.
@MIKEKELLEY12000
@MIKEKELLEY12000 3 жыл бұрын
Another great interview with an intelligent guest. Thanks again, Rob.
@annaloveless4107
@annaloveless4107 3 жыл бұрын
The Lone Ranger series was always and still is one of my favorite series to watch. I watched when I was younger, when I had directv and I have been watching on my phone. Thank you.
@marshasullivan4074
@marshasullivan4074 3 жыл бұрын
What a lovely lady Dawn is. She has plenty to be proud of !!! I watch QT's movie yesterday would you believe.
@denisewright4778
@denisewright4778 3 жыл бұрын
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is one of my favorite films! So glad to hear this story from Dawn Moore. Thank you!
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Denise. Thanks.
@dawnmoore7894
@dawnmoore7894 3 жыл бұрын
LOVED this film! Saw it 7 times (so far)!
@richardrosenthal9552
@richardrosenthal9552 3 жыл бұрын
The Lone Ranger was a series I watched regularly. Clayton Moore was the only TV and Movie Lone Ranger to me. I know there others but he is the actor who will be remembered as the Lone Ranger. Thanks Rob for another wonderful interview and thanks to Clayton Moore’s daughter for the great stories about her dad. She is a gracious lady be part of these interviews.
@eddean6663
@eddean6663 3 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm going to watch the movie. Thanks Rob for another fine interview.
@elizabethbeckman1947
@elizabethbeckman1947 3 жыл бұрын
You and I, Ed, are perhaps the only two who haven't yet seen it. Rob's recommendation, his insights are gold.
@mjemigh3304
@mjemigh3304 3 жыл бұрын
OH! At first I thought you meant "Legend of the Lone Ranger." If you haven't seen THAT one yet, do yourself a favor and don't.
@superharry484
@superharry484 3 жыл бұрын
@@mjemigh3304 Exactly. I remember seeing photos from the movie & even though I was young myself then I could not help thinking. That isn't the Lone Ranger, that is a kid.
@grahamhill6340
@grahamhill6340 3 жыл бұрын
I tried to get CLAYTON MOORE for my IVERSON's movie ranch documentary in 1995, we spoke on the phone but he felt his health at 81 was not up to it... we had a brief chat I reminded him we had met and he had given me his autograph from one of the Builders Emporium store openings he was working back in the early 1980's. IVERSON's was the main ranch location for THE LONE RANGER just like it was for scores of other TV westerns and movies. In the opening credits Clayton is riding on the movie running insert road of the BRANDEIS ranch with those lined trees in the background... then he's seen riding up to what used to be called the Indian Head rock, but because of its iconic appearance on the show was renamed the Lone Ranger rock on the Lower Iverson ranch, where he famously rears up his horse Silver. The Brandeis ranch was literally next door to the Upper Iverson ranch and their running insert roads merged together for about a mile for all those galloping posses and stagecoach chases. Like everyone has said what a great guy Clayton Moore was and certainly no one else could be THE LONE RANGER because he was born for the roll. Wealthy oil businessman and TV producer Jack Wrather was Cheap with a capital 'C'. He felt the star of the show was the LONE RANGER character not Clayton Moore... he simply dismissed the avalanche of fan mail both Clayton and Jay Silverheels were getting. Jay was the one who first dared asked for a raise from the meager pay the show gave them. Jay and Clayton had to change into their western wear at a local gas station as they didn't have a trailer. Dawn's recollections of going onto the adjacent Spahn Ranch from Iverson's should've made it into ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLYWOOD... Now I know that movie has it's fans and Rob is one of it's biggest, but Rob for me it was a classic example of style over substance! The production design, props, costumes, cars were outstanding, they got the 1969 look spot on, it even looked exactly the same in 1976 when I was living in an apartment just off that section of Hollywood boulevard -it's just that the script just had to rewrite the Manson saga with the usual crazy QT bouncing-off-the-wall ending. For those that follow the whole Manson saga or project which was a major distraction from the Vietnam War and marked the beginning of the end for the whole Hippy counter-culture project... all I can say is in these cases things are not what they appear to be, because highly credible evidence has come to light that it was an intelligence project, but that's another story... What is fact here with George Spahn, is that his rundown ranch property was exactly what was needed for the Manson project... Spahn or someone representing him had turned repeated offers to buy his ranch for development, even offering up to 5 times its value. The infamous huge raid on the ranch by the LA sheriffs because of "auto thefts" -well that's a good clue to do start your research, not the Helter Skelter "official story." I think if Clayton and 11 year old Dawn Moore had known the real reason why a 5ft. 3ins "useful idiot" called Charles Manson and a bunch of so-called "runaways" all from very wealthy families were literally keeping a blind George Spahn in the dark... well even the LONE RANGER and TONTO would not have been able to arrest them and ride off into the sunset with a hearty hi-ho Silver! As evidenced of how America and the world has changed from the days of us Baby Boomers watching faithfully each episode of TV's THE LONE RANGER, eating up everything he said each week about living right, doing the right thing and respecting the law... boy what would he think now! Thanks Rob and Dawn, you take us back to those "thrilling day's of yesteryear" when at least you had the illusion of better times!
@jokeroneninesevenzero
@jokeroneninesevenzero 3 жыл бұрын
Frank Retz is the man that was pressuring George to sell. He did end up buying the land but never did anything with it. Retz was killed in 1998 at the ranch when he drove his car into the ravine, he didn't realize the bridge was washed out. After that it was sold and is now a California state park.
@grahamhill6340
@grahamhill6340 3 жыл бұрын
@@jokeroneninesevenzero Retz was an agent working for the Transcontinental Development Corporation (TDC) who were trying to buy the Spahn ranch... He was the one who supposedly hired Shorty Shea to keep an eye on Manson for TDC. TDC was connected to the CIA, and Retz was a decorated German officer... immediately after WWII the OSS soon to become the CIA hired a good many Germans, they made up the bulk of their European intelligence network against the Soviets and other uses. At that time the CIA had over 15,000 'front' companies that they either owned and controlled or were affiliated with... Retz never bought Spahn ranch, he purchased property adjacent to it and died on it. TDC supposedly wanted to build a German beer-garden like resort, or was that just a cover? But as with all things Manson, the CIA creates so many cover stories, creates so many enigmas within enigmas, so many distractions just like what is going on today. Thank you for commenting...
@jokeroneninesevenzero
@jokeroneninesevenzero 3 жыл бұрын
@@grahamhill6340 Very interesting. Thanks for the info.
@dalecomer5951
@dalecomer5951 3 жыл бұрын
From what I've heard Manson was recruited into MK ULTRA not as a subject like the one who is now up for parole in CA but because he had an uncanny ability to influence and manipulate other prison inmates. They wanted to learn his technique.
@grahamhill6340
@grahamhill6340 3 жыл бұрын
"@@dalecomer5951 You're on the right track Dale... but Manson was recruited because like so many terrorists and dupes he was a born "useful idiot" a term the intelligence community love to use for those who do their bidding without really knowing it. They didn't want to learn his 'technique' as they already well knew how to program and manipulate subjects through MK-Ultra and other brainwashing programs... Sirhan Sirhan was another classic example. Manson was chosen for the Sharon Tate Helter Skelter project because he looked the part of a satanic cult leader. Sharon Tate's father Paul Tate was an intelligence officer in on the project as was Jay Sebring hairdresser and drug dealer to the stars, reportedly one of the victims he was also connected to intelligence. I could go on for another 100 pages or so, but the bottom line is it was a major distraction from the war project... the LAPD, Sheriffs, DA's but most importantly the coroner and Vincent Bugliosi the prosecuting attorney and author of the 'book.' It was the book and Lorimar's TV production of Helter Skelter together with the rest of the CIA owned media that sold it to the world.
@JudgeCrater22
@JudgeCrater22 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode detailing events at the Spahn Ranch that could only have happened in real life Hollywood of yesteryear or in a movie. The Lone Ranger having a featured role in a horror scenario. Wow, life does not get any stranger than that. The only thing missing is Jay Silverheels also coming along on that car ride to hell.
@dawnmoore7894
@dawnmoore7894 3 жыл бұрын
ha! right?
@raychambers3646
@raychambers3646 3 жыл бұрын
Well Mr Word you have done it again ,another excellent thoughtful interview. They did a rerun of the Lone Ranger on TV a while ago Saturday morning breakfast time good stories well written. They are running "Law of the Plainsman " at the moment .Keep them interviews coming ,with thanks from the UK.
@josephmarcello7481
@josephmarcello7481 3 жыл бұрын
Rob, Love you show, love clayton, love the ranger, love you for your gentlemanly reverence for these childhood classics. So nice to see humanity and taste on the web. More power to you!
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Joseph. I'm doing the best I can. Glad you enjoy the effort. It's fun for me, too!
@gerardjohnson2106
@gerardjohnson2106 3 жыл бұрын
WONDERFUL!!! Word with another win.
@SarahWRah
@SarahWRah 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid, I knew Clayton Moore behind the cameras on the Lone Ranger set. When spending summers at our vacation cabin near the Iverson Movie Ranch, we given rare permission to visit the Lone Ranger set on a regular basis. So I'm one of the few kids who has seen Lone Ranger without his mask. We also got to visit the Cisco Kid's show being filmed, plus a variety of movies and other TV shows.
@rhammond2152
@rhammond2152 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed on the Tarantino movie....watched it three times, and the last 15 minutes at least 20 times. I wish Tarantino would do more westerns.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, RH. Thanks.
@dawnmoore7894
@dawnmoore7894 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched it 7 times and I still get weirded out at the scene I lived through. BRILLIANT ending! But 20x? You win!
@kenshores9900
@kenshores9900 3 жыл бұрын
Really great Rob. Boy can’t believe it really did happen. Now I am going to have to look for the picture. Bruce Dern was good as George.
@antoinettelane9961
@antoinettelane9961 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for posting this.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Antoinette. Glad you enjoyed it
@crowhaven200
@crowhaven200 3 жыл бұрын
Wow.... I din't know about the Spahn Ranch connection with Clayton Moore in QT's movie. I like that movie and have seen it streaming several times. From now on, when I see Brad Pitt drive away from the ranch , I will think to myself.. "Who was that Masked Man?" Great interview..
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Crow. Look for the photo of Clay and Jay the next time you watch the film. It's hidden in plain sight!
@crowhaven200
@crowhaven200 3 жыл бұрын
@@AWordonWesterns I already found it on youtube... lol.. Plain as day when you know what to look for. Thank you Rob.
@dawnmoore7894
@dawnmoore7894 3 жыл бұрын
And here's a cool P.S. ... I met Brad Pitt last year and got to tell him the whole story! His eyeballs almost fell out of his head!
@crowhaven200
@crowhaven200 3 жыл бұрын
@@dawnmoore7894 Thank you, your reply just made my day. That is a very cool P.S. indeed.. The chemistry with your father and Jay was fantastic. There was nothing "hoaky" about the show. They seemed real to me. They were special men.
@jokeroneninesevenzero
@jokeroneninesevenzero 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing to come across your video. Yesterday I went to the Lone Ranger rock, and then went over to Spahn ranch. I hike Corriganville movie ranch almost every day.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome, Joker. Thanks for the info on Frank Retz, too.
@jokeroneninesevenzero
@jokeroneninesevenzero 3 жыл бұрын
@@AWordonWesterns You're welcome. I have learned a lot about the history of Spahn ranch. I've hiked all over the area, and have given tours to people that come to see the ranch and learn the history.
@PacoOtis
@PacoOtis Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! We thought you were a bit hard on John Hart as he was talented and did his best and thought the world of Clayton!
@dennisdunton6530
@dennisdunton6530 3 жыл бұрын
Jay Thomas telling his Clayton Moore story on Letterman always pops into my head when seeing something like this.....PRICELESS
@NormanLedoyen
@NormanLedoyen 3 жыл бұрын
As always Rob, a great interview.
@garymckee448
@garymckee448 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks Rob
@mikecudmore4760
@mikecudmore4760 3 жыл бұрын
It may have just been by chance but Clayton Moore and Van Williams looked like they were related, all the 1960s Green Hornet fans knew this and that just put it over the top. That kind of gave the Clayton Moore Lone Ranger a Batman connection as well.
@j.sumner6999
@j.sumner6999 3 жыл бұрын
I believe The Green Hornet also began on the radio in the thirties and that The Lone Ranger was his great-uncle, which would make Britt Reid Dan Reid's son. Of course, it was well into the forties berfore I was able to listen to it.
@desertfox3860
@desertfox3860 3 жыл бұрын
You sure come up with some interesting episodes! Thanks for sharing!
@diwilliams2960
@diwilliams2960 Жыл бұрын
Loved this interview! Thanks Rob!
@davidp4043
@davidp4043 3 жыл бұрын
As usual rob, Superb stuff👏👏
@debrazielke1702
@debrazielke1702 3 жыл бұрын
Well that was interesting and now I want to watch that movie again. Thanks Rob
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Watch for the Ranger and Tonto's photo, Deb.
@browningautomatic2393
@browningautomatic2393 3 жыл бұрын
very interesting video !
@galencox4278
@galencox4278 3 жыл бұрын
That was a fantastic interview. A very very classy lady. But then again, her father was a very very classy man.
@dawnmoore7894
@dawnmoore7894 3 жыл бұрын
You are right, Dad was a class act - tough act to follow!
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this production, The Lone Ranger & Tonto was one of the BEST childhood years of my life, while turmoil was in my home I felt safe with the Cowboy & Indian !! 😂
@jonniez62
@jonniez62 3 жыл бұрын
Loved Clayton as the Lone Ranger, only saw the show in reruns in late 60s and 70s. Funny I would go on to visit that one pointy rock, Vasquez Rock, they always passed as an adult.
@thedoxinator3934
@thedoxinator3934 3 жыл бұрын
😎 Rob a riveting interview with a beautiful lady 👍
@jimmiehahn4560
@jimmiehahn4560 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I has no idea that seen in Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood really happened! As always Rob, you do not disappoint 😊
@jimd8008
@jimd8008 3 жыл бұрын
Rob thank you again
@dalecomer5951
@dalecomer5951 3 жыл бұрын
In the late Fifties someone tried to use what Dawn refers to as the "ghost town" at the Spahn Movie Ranch for a seasonal attraction. They made a "Santa's Village" sign with large red block letters on individual frames with white backgrounds like children's blocks tilted at varying angles across the front of the buildings, then left it up long after the holiday season. One summer day around 1960 or "61 we were driving up Santa Susana Pass Road in the family car on the way to visit someone in Simi Valley. The view of the ranch buildings was almost exactly as shown in this video except for the prominent Santa's Village sign. I asked my dad if we could go down there on the way home. He answered with a resounding, "No! And I don't want you kids going there on your own." He knew we used to ride our bikes up to Corriganville which was not far away. The Iverson Movie Ranch was just to the north of the Spahn Ranch. My dad worked with a number of oldtimers in the area and had heard stories about "goings on" at the Spahn place years before Manson and his followers showed up.
@dawnmoore7894
@dawnmoore7894 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, cool story. Your dad sounds like a hip guy ;)
@dalecomer5951
@dalecomer5951 3 жыл бұрын
@@dawnmoore7894 Keep the flame alive. We'll be looking forward to the next installment.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Love this story, Dale. Thanks for sharing. Good Dad!
@kenhurley4441
@kenhurley4441 3 жыл бұрын
Another Blue Ribbon video Rob! I'm glad you had Dawn on and talking about her dad. I wonder, what was Dawn's adult life like? Maybe a segment on that would be good.
@Slick2462
@Slick2462 3 жыл бұрын
This is a staple of my Sunday mornings AWOW. In the future watch the tight pants I think they are affecting your voice like puberty does?😊🤔👍
@spockboy
@spockboy 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Love your channel.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it, SpockBoy. Thanks.
@morganjones1966
@morganjones1966 3 жыл бұрын
hello i am from and live in the UK. I am 55 yr old Mr Clayton Moore is the one and only Lone Ranger and J Silverheels is the one and only Tonto. I have seen them both as the Lone Ranger and Tonto on TV in the UK. When you hear that voice you know it is the lone Ranger and its the same for Tonto.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, morgan. Clayton is the one and only! Glad A WORD ON WESTERNS makes it "across the pond."
@martinmccool366
@martinmccool366 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, great job! Loved Dawn Moore, what a sweetie!
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. She is a terrific guest. Thanks.
@babalugats3540
@babalugats3540 3 жыл бұрын
She is lovely.
@blayneaugust
@blayneaugust 6 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for this!
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 6 ай бұрын
You're so welcome!
@philipnordin1661
@philipnordin1661 3 жыл бұрын
That was great
@texasbonn257
@texasbonn257 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 2 жыл бұрын
Scary, huh?
@LoneBullBBQ
@LoneBullBBQ 3 жыл бұрын
I learn something new every Sunday from you Rob. You mean to tell me that the Lone Ranger and the Green Hornet were related?!? I never knew that but a quick google search filled me in.
@j.sumner6999
@j.sumner6999 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. On the Green Hornet radio show, Britt Reid was showing someone around in either his home or office, I cannot remember which, and he pointed out a picture: "That is a picture of my great-uncle, the Lone Ranger." By that, I gather that he was Dan Reid's son.
@j.sumner6999
@j.sumner6999 3 жыл бұрын
On the Lone Ranger TV show, Dan Reid was played by Chuck Courtney. I did not remember that, so I looked it up. I remembered the character, I did not remember the actor.
@RealBillBruce
@RealBillBruce 2 жыл бұрын
Wow just had my mind blown. One of my favorite movies of all time is Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I had no idea that one of the pivotal scenes was based on a real event that happened to Clayton Moore. If you haven’t seen this movie you need to seek it out. I’ve watched it at least 7 times. Now to know that Brad Pitt (who won an academy award for his role) was doing a scene that Clayton Moore actually lived makes it even more special.
@sammychicken3457
@sammychicken3457 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers, Sammy
@PhilippinesFarmLife
@PhilippinesFarmLife 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@outdoorlife5396
@outdoorlife5396 3 жыл бұрын
Clayton Moore will always be the Lone Ranger, no will replace him
@hiramnoone
@hiramnoone 3 жыл бұрын
Course Tarantino's film was a history altering fable. But at the same time having read Helter Skelter and knowing the true history of that Spahn Ranch Manson cult commune of killers, made that scene of visiting with the old man among them seem even creepier, more threatening and foreboding than a straighter approach might have conjured up. Why I can really understand Dawn's creeped out shudders when reflecting on the real life experience, having actually lived that scene in just that way herself.
@mjemigh3304
@mjemigh3304 3 жыл бұрын
That's definitely a weird story. Even for California.
@duncanidaho2097
@duncanidaho2097 3 жыл бұрын
@Mj Emigh-for sure. But those were weird times what with all the drugged out lost souls from all over the nation migrating to Cali like a magnet. They squatted, barefoot and zombie like wherever they could get away with.
@dawnmoore7894
@dawnmoore7894 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! This cracked me up - yes, even weird for California! 100%
@williambilyeu9801
@williambilyeu9801 2 жыл бұрын
@@dawnmoore7894 Your father was a hero to so many of us as children and as adults. I have a longer comment, but I wanted to tell you.
@richelliott9320
@richelliott9320 3 жыл бұрын
Another great interview mr Word
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Rich
@PaulKyriazi
@PaulKyriazi 3 жыл бұрын
I read Clayton Moore's book, but must have forgotten that story. I didn't know that sequence in the movie was based on it. Great that this could be told by the daughter who was there.
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Paul. It was a fascinating story and very well crafted in Q's movie.
@PaulKyriazi
@PaulKyriazi 3 жыл бұрын
@@AWordonWesterns I still have Clayton's book and just found that story, exactly as his daughter remembered it.
@frankiereinares8892
@frankiereinares8892 3 жыл бұрын
i live this interview with dawn.im a big fan of the lone ranger.btw dan collier has passed on,i hope you have a word on the high chapparal legend.thanks again for any word on western episodes.♥️👍
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
We were lucky to have Don Collier join us for a conversation, Frankie. He's in a couple of AWOW episodes. Here's a link to one. Enjoy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4uUoK14fcuSd5o
@silverfox47
@silverfox47 3 жыл бұрын
Dawn has a great voice !
@AWordonWesterns
@AWordonWesterns 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Let's put her in a mask!
@dalecomer5951
@dalecomer5951 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised some casting director didn't snap her up.
@paultynan8705
@paultynan8705 Жыл бұрын
What a very nice lady! Your Dad would be proud ❤
@davidclough3951
@davidclough3951 10 ай бұрын
As a kid, not even 10 years old, I remember the news about the new line ranger movie and those that tried to steal that identity from Clayton Moore. I grew up before that watching reruns on Saturdays and looking forward to any new movie. I might not have cared much at my young age, but I view him as the real lone ranger and still enjoy any new remake.
@junerobertson4389
@junerobertson4389 2 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't love Clayton Moore and the Lone Ranger. He was not treated well and I can't even watch S3 with Hart, who I like as an actor but, not as the Lone Ranger. He didn't have the voice or the physicality to do what Clayton did.
@williamclifford9757
@williamclifford9757 Жыл бұрын
Love the show, Dawn Moore is a total " HEAD TURNER !"
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