AXIS ART PRO 1401 review for lake riding

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[@timothedorel1663]

Encore une belle vidéo ! Tu me ferais presque regretter d'avoir pris une sirus L (1.16m) de chez Gong ! ;) Continue !

[@yvonvite3670]

Ah ben ça... la 1401 va plus vite que la sirus c'est certain. Après pas sûre que je pompe la 1401 que la sirus. Faudrait vraiment que je fasse un test un jour.

[@JoshWiden]

Any chance you can detail a bit more the low end with PNG1300 specifically? Interested in the ease of it for dead start dockstarting and flat water paddle up. I can do both on the PNG1300 but not the ART PRO 1201.

[@stkl23]

I'm hoping it will be possible with this wing. A bit of practice will be required of course. But it looks like it could replace the entire PNG lineup.

[@JoshWiden]

​@@stkl23That would be awesome

[@yvonvite]

​@@stkl23if you ride the 1201, the 1401 will replace the png 1300, 1310 and 1150. But be aware that the 1401 turn less than the png series but it's faster.

[@Foiloniousfunk]

Great video! Seems promising for pumping and dockstarts. For sup downwinding would be good to discuss tradeoffs / comparisons with other options for our local conditions on Léman / Estavayer. Depending on season we get a few times per month conditions that produce "small" (shin to knee high / 0.5M, again depending on season. Generally need a foil that will have a great low end, move with the slow swell, and allow for turns to peel off and link waves. And of course something one can paddle up. Speed once up on foil is perhaps less important since the swell is generally slow. And "small" most days. For the days with "larger" swell larger wings can be difficult to control (I went out last Wednesday when we had 14-15 knots and knee to waist high waves and found myself in a rodeo with my gong 3XL (totally the wrong tool for the day and not what it was intended for, though my skill level also needs to improve 😜). Generally I think the PNG 1310 may still be a good fit for our conditions. Possibly also the Leviathan 1350 / 1150 (and razor 980 if you can manage to paddle it up based reviews by Gwen / plantpositive). @yvonvite @stkl23 Would love to hear your thoughts since you are local riders. Considering moving away from gong to Axis or Sabfoil. Also look forward to seeing you on the water someday soon!

[@yvonvite3670]

@@Foiloniousfunk Demain après-midi je vais à Rolle... The 1401 is a great tool for our lakes when it will be between 10 and 15 knots I think...

[@apricotscrub]

What fuse and skinny tail do you recommend? I like the 1401 but felt not super efficient on the crazyshort / 50 for 85kg

[@yvonvite3670]

Do you mean on flat water ? For more efficience with your weight, I suggest to get the skinny 362/50 and an ultrashort advance+ (or even the short advance+ if you want to pump for very long distance on flat water). When you go for a downwind keep the crazyshort and a skinny 359/40 (the skinny 362/50 will work also, depend of the speed of the swell in your area, but the faster you go, the easiest it is to do downwind). instagram.com/reel/C0zX_4qKiqH/?igshid=MjM0N2Q2NDBjYg== here I have the ultrashort advance+ and the skinny 358/35.

[@webstken]

If this was a 1501 mm span with slightly more area, I would have ordered already. I am concerned with the low surface area that it will not compete with the Leviathan 1550 or 1750 on glide at 80 kg. I will just have to test one. Thanks for the video.

[@yvonvite3670]

I've tried the leviathan 1550 and it's a complete different wing. The 1401 is way faster and turn way better than the leviathan. For sure the leviathan is easier to pump, but it's so boring to ride it in comparison.

[@webstken]

I currently dock start with the PNG 1300; do you think I'll see a significant pump time difference with the 1401?@@yvonvite3670

[@yvonvite]

@@webstken The 1401 have a different style of pumping, you have to pump it keeping the board flat... You will definitely double your time when you understand the pumping technique.

[@jimmymazzanti1451]

@@yvonvite3670 you can tray the Razors ;)

[@roymassey1364]

How does it compare to the axis 1150 that’s what I ride

[@flightjunkie808]

What is the minimum length board that will work when thrown so that it is balanced and the nose goes down in a gliding position? I have a small homemade board that is around 80cm and even with the mast all the way back the board does not want to glide when hand launched or thrown (without me on the board yet), it pitches up. Wondering what boards you have used and which ones you like

[@yvonvite3670]

I've tried the 80cm Gong Kluber board and it worked for me.... Now I'm using a 90cm board and it is perfect. If you have an advance + fuselage it will help for sure.

[@stkl23]

Which fuselage/rear are you using during the lake crossing? It looks like a skinny.

[@yvonvite]

I used the ultrashort advance + and the skinny 360/45 with -0.1 shim.

[@Finn-yg6zx]

Have you used the 460v2 rear foil with the 1401? Maybe the 460v2 could improve the low end, etc making it closer to the 1300?

[@yvonvite]

@@Finn-yg6zx I've tried the 460 v2 and yes it help with the low end, but i really did not like the slow feeling riding it. I think the skinny 362/50 is the biggest stab you should use. I also like the progressive 250 and 300 (still slower than all the skinnys) paired with the 1401.

[@fneyes]

Je crois que je vais craquer et remplacer ma bonne vieille PNG 1150 par cette 1401. Par contre, j'ai une question au niveau du mat. J'utilise le Power Carbon High Modulus 82 cm. J'ai lu sur quelques posts qu'il avait un peu trop de flex pour la 1401 et qu'il valait mieux repasser sur le Alu 19 mm. Qu'en penses-tu ?

[@yvonvite]

Alors le high modulus plié un peu en tortion, si tu l'utilise sur l'eau plate, ça dérange pas trop par contre si tu veux surfer un peu ou faire des petits downwind, c'est un peu gênant. Tu verras à l'utilisation, mais c'est certain que le mat alu est plus rigide et plus agréable pour les vagues.

[@audrensegalin1042]

Alors ? Comment est cette Art Pro ? 😁

[@fneyes]

Hello Audren, Elle est canon en dockstart. Je te la ferai essayer à la prochaine session…

[@foiloco]

I'm hoping to find out what mast you are using, and what is your body weight? Thank you!

[@yvonvite]

My weight is 73kg and you have to use the aluminium mast 19mm or the new ultra pro mast for this wing. If you use the High modulus mast, it will bend and it's not usable in waves, but works for flat water.

[@foiloco]

Thanks very much. I weigh about 77kg. Just what I needed to know.

[@andresknittel]

Hello. What fuselage and rear stab would you recommend for the 1401 for flat water pumping? Would you recomend a skinny, progression or the 460V2, and which size? I weigh 70kg. Thank you very much for your advice!

[@yvonvite]

I recommand the ultra short advance+ and skinny 360/45.... maybe the 359/40 for your weight... I'm 73 kg and sometimes I like more the 40, sometimes more the 45.... Skinny 359/40, will be mor polyvalent, if you want buy only one. If you can buy 2 skinny, take the 45 and 35 (for the downwind).

[@andresknittel]

@@yvonviteThank you! I was also recommended the skinny, but the 365/55 for long distances and time as it should provide more lift. It seems the skinny is the best option and then it is a matter of preference which size.

[@yvonvite]

@@andresknittel for your weight, 365/55 is too big. That size slow the wing too much and cause more effort to pump. No bigger than the 362/50, and even this one is too big for me i think.

[@andresknittel]

@@yvonvite Invaluable information. Thanks!!

[@lechatsurfeur83]

Salut tu utilise quoi comme stab?

[@yvonvite]

Maintenant j'utilise quasiment tout le temps le skinny 359/40 ou 360/45.

[@lechatsurfeur83]

@@yvonvite c est ce que l on m'a conseillé pour pumping / dw 😉

[@peteraromatai1369]

Mais ce que c’est amusant ? Si vous aimez tant le foil pourquoi ne pas déménager sur une côte avec un océan plutôt que de se forcer à rider sur un lac ? 😅 je vois ça un peu comme les jamaïcains qui font du bobsleigh 😂

[@yvonvite3670]

Dans la vie, quand on a une famille et un appartement pas cher et un travail qui m'est cher. C'est dure de tout quitter juste pour pouvoir aller foiler malheureusement.

[@yvonvite]

The 1401 need a little bit more speed than the png 1300, but not a lot. Way more easier to dockstart the 1401 compare to the 1201. I dont recommand this wing to complete beginners, but beginners who can pump 30 secondes can dockstart the 1401.

[@benjaminbjacobsen]

so we have a BSC 1120 that my son can pump for 30s. He's looking for his first wing and loves dock starting/pumping. He wants max time out pumping. This looks like the best option over the 1300 or 1310? We will also be using this for wing foiling but we're almost always out in 20mph or less. He will still have access to our BSC1120 and I was thinking this might be a good heavier air front wing for me? He's 160lbs and I'm 210. 73 and 96kg. Thanks for your input and review!

[@yvonvite]

@@benjaminbjacobsen if you want to wing the best option will be the 1310, specially for the 96 kg. And you can pump the 1410 for a long time. Pair it with the skinny 362/50 it will work for both of you.

[@apricotscrub]

I can dockstart the 1300 and 1201 and 1130S code. When I tried the 1401 I can dockstart without a run.

[@yvonvite3670]

@@apricotscrub 1401 is almost as easy to dockstart as the png 1300.

[@philzke9788]

Any thoughts on how the 1401 compares to the SAB 1350? Thanks!!!