AYANEO Air In-Depth Review

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@chriscastillo291
@chriscastillo291 2 жыл бұрын
I love when you tell me to kick back get a drink, it makes me enjoy your videos that much more so when I look back I remember I was relaxed and enjoyed your video!
@chanunnaki
@chanunnaki 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I'll buy this because I really want a device with 6800U + OLED, but THANK THE LORD for AMD allowing devices of this kind to come to market. I'm loving the x86 handheld market right now.
@bluemidnight5926
@bluemidnight5926 2 жыл бұрын
You're gonna be waiting quite a while for something like that. There are no in demand panels that can be purchased in mass to make OLED units that fit these kinds of products yet.
@HuntaKiller91
@HuntaKiller91 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluemidnight5926 this sell well and people back it up in IGG Mybe they're launching nxt yr with 6800U+oled by the time little Phoenix/dragon range comes to market
@bluemidnight5926
@bluemidnight5926 2 жыл бұрын
@@HuntaKiller91 Hopefully by winter of next year. I don't really see it happening to be honest, but it would be awesome to have a 6800U device with OLED and a decent sized display.
@chanunnaki
@chanunnaki 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluemidnight5926 yeah, I understand I’ll be waiting a while. I’m expecting it won’t be this year, but most likely will be next year, with an APU perhaps superior to the 6800U.
@bluemidnight5926
@bluemidnight5926 2 жыл бұрын
@@chanunnaki Definitely. The 7000 series cards have already been announced. My plan is to keep my Steam Deck pre-order, then whenever one of these handheld PC manufacturers finally make something decent with OLED, that's when I'll sell my Deck and buy in.
@m2ljay
@m2ljay 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love oled I can’t justify a “portable” device that only lasts an hour for $500
@NeroVingian40
@NeroVingian40 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t even justify a $400 device that only lasts two hours, let alone one that costs $500 and lasts an hour.
@dan47483
@dan47483 2 жыл бұрын
Just completely unacceptable battery life.
@KyleRuggles
@KyleRuggles 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I got an Odin, I'm playing AAA games with like a 8-10hour battery, streaming! It's awesome!
@literallyanything9811
@literallyanything9811 2 жыл бұрын
Same here! I almost pre-ordered the Loki thing from that dodgy company. It's a good thing he reviews these things. I mean this cannot do proper Xbox emulation and lasts an hour. My laptop aces these handhelds. The "early adapters" will regret buying these. Modded Switch or a Xbox Series S are better choices right now.
@Altseinx
@Altseinx 2 жыл бұрын
@@KyleRuggles yup. I came from the RG552 to the Odin and now I feel spoiled with the Odin’s battery life. I can’t imagine myself going for another device with lesser battery now.
@panamacspana8498
@panamacspana8498 2 жыл бұрын
I’m actually glad this device was so heavily reviewed. The poor battery life is killer and hopefully Aya take note for the Neo 2.
@TheEagle0335
@TheEagle0335 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for testing TY the Tasmanian tiger, I was unsure if you would when you asked for things Id like to see in your next video . It really made my day to see you run the game on this system. You are my go to guy for retro systems!
@crystalwater505
@crystalwater505 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Russ for these videos. I always appreciate them since I'm huge into emulation devices and handhelds. Your videos are extremely helpful as always.
@TSpice
@TSpice 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE your decision to use the "left side, explain the pros, move unit to the right, explain the cons" thing you do. It's a perfect transition.
@mathisblair2798
@mathisblair2798 2 жыл бұрын
Russ is a PRO
@vince5260
@vince5260 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, Russ! Thanks for going so in-depth with this. This device feels close to the dream handheld in some ways, but far away in others. Hopefully future iterations can address some of the issues you mentioned here.
@Ruslan.88266
@Ruslan.88266 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video, I was expecting allot more from this device.
@TheHanleyProject
@TheHanleyProject 2 жыл бұрын
The battery life of this device is its Achilles heel. Great device, great design and great specs, undermined by completely unusable battery life.
@Fldllse
@Fldllse 2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking, maybe someone can develop a case-battery for this thing that can extend it by maybe 30% - 50%
@jonathaningram8157
@jonathaningram8157 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fldllse and crappy sound.
@jonathaningram8157
@jonathaningram8157 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fldllse the pro version is between 20% to 40% longer battery according to the constructor.
@SamuHell782
@SamuHell782 2 жыл бұрын
The Li-Ion substitute tech is taking to long to mass produce and take over. Been hearing about it for over 20 years now... (loud sigh) Solid State or anything else, double energy density would be amazing.
@RandomPlaceHolderName
@RandomPlaceHolderName 2 жыл бұрын
At $500, I'd expect better battery life too.
@BrianEmmons
@BrianEmmons 2 жыл бұрын
One of the things a different review mentioned that I don't think you did is that both the top and bottom USB-C port can be used for power. This to me is awesome, and actually a really big deal that vastly raises the usability of this thing. It had to be difficult to pull off but it's going to be worth it. You're going to want to use this thing plugged in a lot, there's just no getting around that. But you gotta think about it not just in terms of specs, but in how you're actually gonna use it. When I think about where and how I'm going to use it, having the option of running the cable either above or below is one of those things I didn't realize I really wanted until I found out I could have it.
@asawarai
@asawarai 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH for testing Destiny 2 so thoroughly Russ!! Really appreciate it! I didn't actually expect to see it when I asked you to test it in your community post, so my jaw dropped a little bit when it was the first thing shown haha
@ETlandxoxo
@ETlandxoxo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your in-depth review. can tell that you have spent a super long time to make this vid. Great work
@TheUncannyOne
@TheUncannyOne 2 жыл бұрын
Price for this should’ve been $350 (battery life) & the Pro $400-450 but still a great looking device! I kinda want one or a Steam deck, but the deck waiting time is insane 😭
@maxducoudray
@maxducoudray 2 жыл бұрын
Wait time on Deck is way down. Did you put in a preorder when they announced they can fulfill everything this year?
@DJDanceClassic
@DJDanceClassic 2 жыл бұрын
$250 max!
@vergodagoat
@vergodagoat 2 жыл бұрын
@@DJDanceClassic lol that’s a giant stretch. if that’s your budget get a dedicated retro handheld.
@MrFearlesskiller
@MrFearlesskiller 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxducoudray Yeah im wanting a device while i wait for the steam deck but honestly, i can just wait for my october-december steam deck
@DienerNoUta
@DienerNoUta 2 жыл бұрын
You know how much cost a laptop with similar processor?
@DanielEkedahl
@DanielEkedahl 2 жыл бұрын
Great in-depth video. I'm waiting for the plus and this is a great peak what to expect. I'm happy you added in the battery life time as requested. I see it take you a lot of time to make this comparison but for me at least the battery time is one of the most selling point so I hope you continue to do this. Then you can come back and compare different devices. Thanks for all the effort you put into this.
@RyeJ_86
@RyeJ_86 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Loki Max on pre-order. I was really loving the look of this too and was considering it, but that battery life, just makes no sense to me. My Odin Pro smokes it on battery life already. Shame because an OLED screen, hall joysticks, and this build quality are really attractive
@Games-tx1zc
@Games-tx1zc 2 жыл бұрын
This device REALLY would have benefitted from waiting for a more efficient chip. Anything with RDNA2 would be able to deliver the same performance at a significantly lower wattage and would have made battery life more acceptable.
@therealsplatter
@therealsplatter 2 жыл бұрын
They do offer a device with another chipset but it is almost double the price as the original models which doesn't make it worth it anymore.
@JustinCatalano
@JustinCatalano 2 жыл бұрын
Wont fit unfortunately (they commented on the lack of 6000s series as a size issue)
@warlordwossman5722
@warlordwossman5722 2 жыл бұрын
@@therealsplatter yeah 6600U at the same price would be a good deal but currently their entire lineup makes no sense.
@KyleRuggles
@KyleRuggles 2 жыл бұрын
You can check out that I3 version with an upgraded battery, sips less power. Or wait for that new AMD processor coming out later this year.
@mathisblair2798
@mathisblair2798 2 жыл бұрын
👏 👏 👏 just taking a moment to applaud the intense amount of time and effoet put into your vids. You're the King of hand held reviews in my humble opinion. 👌 👑
@jesseboy7951
@jesseboy7951 2 жыл бұрын
i admire your dedication, Russ. really, i do. we, viewers, don't see it but i cannot imagine how many hrs of work you put into getting all this footage and numbers. that's why folks like you and Cary (the foxy Phawx) get an extra special bag of respect from me personally.
@blake1986
@blake1986 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly im thinking about it having a smaller device than my steam deck sounds great, the steam deck will probably never leave my house but this i could see bringing to say a friends house or a long trip. I mostly play 7th gen games like mk9 and bo2 so battery might not be a big problem
@Arrowdodger
@Arrowdodger 2 жыл бұрын
Russ: "If you're pushing the limits, this gets hot enough in the hand to be uncomfortable." Ayaneo: "Oh, it won't be a problem for long...."
@CLOWNXCVI
@CLOWNXCVI 2 жыл бұрын
On a 5.5 inch screen I think you can lower the resolution even further, like 800x600 or something like that and it would still look great, i mean, the ps vita is 5 inches and a resolution of 768x432 looks great!
@asukaainun7473
@asukaainun7473 2 жыл бұрын
Let's hope qualcomm make a killer ARM soc for Windows in the near future. Pc handheld with battery life rivalling phone is an absolute dream for retro enthusiast.
@lightone31
@lightone31 Жыл бұрын
I have the system and I have no problems with it. The battery life is not the greatest but I carry a charger with me wherever I go. No big deal
@PaulByron4d
@PaulByron4d 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love this. Aya Neo are getting so good at producing decent Windows machines now. They might not be the fastest, but they’re certainly more portable than Steamdeck and I really prefer the form factor.
@fishman2962
@fishman2962 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I love this channel.
@youngdannyaye
@youngdannyaye 2 жыл бұрын
12:02 feeling alot better about myself today thanks retro game corp
@supermariosunshine64
@supermariosunshine64 2 жыл бұрын
Jeez, and I thought my other device's 3.5 hours battery life was bad... 1 hours is just...wow...
@TheDbG33K
@TheDbG33K 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely drawn to that OLED technology, but the small size and especially with 6000 series handhelds on the horizon, I don't think I could drop my moneys on this one. Fingers crossed for a larger screened OLED 6800U model somewhere in the pipeline!
@jbaruzzini
@jbaruzzini 2 жыл бұрын
I ended up pulling the trigger on this. As much as I’d like the Steam Deck or the Ayn Loki this device will actually ship at the end of August and looks to fulfill what I’m looking for in a Windows handheld.
@tylerdurden783
@tylerdurden783 2 жыл бұрын
"Next Year's Devices Will Be Even Better" Legit, this can be used for basically any yearly released electronic product. Everything is always better "just around the corner".
@Dairunt1
@Dairunt1 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That's why these indepth reviews are great. Does it have what you're looking for? Then have at it, or wait a bit longer.
@randchuck2492
@randchuck2492 2 жыл бұрын
I would actually love to know how well the battery lasts when playing strictly 7th console generation games the correct settings and lowered tdp. I would hope those older games wouldn't drain the battery as quickly because they don't require beefy hardware these days. This has the potential to be a fantastic 7th to 8th gen handheld. Oh and just to clarify I meant 7th gen native pc ports, not emulation.
@jackshikikunt3042
@jackshikikunt3042 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually a good point, playing with switch made me realized I don't really enjoy playing modern AAA games on the go, nor online competitive games for the obvious wifi issues, find myself playing lower spec simpler games on portable mode so older pc games/ports could be a good idea, right off the bat im thinking The Italian Job, midtown madness and maybe quake
@EliseoTorres-Morales
@EliseoTorres-Morales 2 жыл бұрын
What generation of games is 7th gen?
@randchuck2492
@randchuck2492 2 жыл бұрын
@@EliseoTorres-Morales 360/ps3 era
@Cat-hl9xb
@Cat-hl9xb Жыл бұрын
Is it alright to play this while charging? Will the battery be damage if I play it while charging? I'm planning to buy my first ever handheld console so yeah😅. (Sorry for my bad english, it is my second language)
@dijik123
@dijik123 2 жыл бұрын
If steamdeck is not available at retail stores by this year I will buying Aya neo air
@jpkdesignz
@jpkdesignz 2 жыл бұрын
If next year's device has a 6" display and some incremental improvement in all specs, that'll be the time for me to get a handheld gaming PC.
@asmrbatty
@asmrbatty 2 жыл бұрын
No one is talking about fan noise. Is it quiet?
@RetroGameCorps
@RetroGameCorps 2 жыл бұрын
I address the fan noise in the audio section of the review, with a demonstration segment. It's pleasant sounding and not loud.
@asmrbatty
@asmrbatty 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroGameCorps Nice, thank you!
@BlackApathyy
@BlackApathyy 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl everyone who’s probably complaining about battery life do not go outside so idk why they are crying about it. Good device, good review man, thank you.
@sirrah9533
@sirrah9533 2 жыл бұрын
Russ, If you had to venture a guess, How much worse do you think the Mendocino version of the Loki mini Pro will preform compared to this?
@peterd7009
@peterd7009 2 жыл бұрын
How about the intel version as well ? What do your think ?
@shlokshah5379
@shlokshah5379 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterd7009 we do have performance on the i3 if that is what you are asking.
@shlokshah5379
@shlokshah5379 2 жыл бұрын
there are no official specs of its gpu yet so its best to not make any guesses.
@TAGMedia7
@TAGMedia7 2 жыл бұрын
You are the only reviewer who I trust at this point. Both Taki and ETA gloss over too many details.
@skilarbabcock
@skilarbabcock 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I have always wanted breath of the wild to be portable
@RetroGameCorps
@RetroGameCorps 2 жыл бұрын
It's finally here!
@HuntaKiller91
@HuntaKiller91 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping this sells well even if it's subpar for me Ayaneo should refresh this with better battery and 6800U asap
@warlordwossman5722
@warlordwossman5722 2 жыл бұрын
6600U would be more reasonable for cooling and battery life but I agree that VEGA graphics are a no go compared to RDNA 2 efficiency.
@skycloud4802
@skycloud4802 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Age of Empires 2 test you snuck in. I've often wondered how awkward it would feel playing real time strategy games on something like this.
@mathisblair2798
@mathisblair2798 2 жыл бұрын
Bluetooth Mouse maybe?
@skycloud4802
@skycloud4802 2 жыл бұрын
@@mathisblair2798 I assume that would be the way to go.
@NoelTugy
@NoelTugy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm saving money for the Loki Zero! Hopefully it'll be a nice addition with my Switch💖💖
@Dairunt1
@Dairunt1 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do a review of the cheaper 8GB RAM model? I'm interested how much of a difference it is considering the price.
@luisseg
@luisseg 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Russ! Great video as always! I know this might be a long shot but would you consider making a video comparison between multiple VERTICAL handhelds? I know many people would appreciate it as many of us love that form factor and I think it would be handy as the holidays are right around the corner. Anyway, thank you for everything and keep it with the good stuff! Cheers!
@GolfTechie79
@GolfTechie79 2 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for Russ's review and it did not disappoint! The Phawx also recommended the Pro version which has better but still rather lacking battery life at a high price point. It's a shame as the build quality, oled screen and controls are awesome. Willing to wait for my ultimate Windows handheld which has clam shell, 7 inch oled screen, large battery at least 3 hours on demanding games, ergonomic gaming controls with keyboard and trackpad, decent thermals and build quality, under 500 grams, AMD 5825U or similar, basically a GPD Win 2 upgrade.
@bluemidnight5926
@bluemidnight5926 2 жыл бұрын
Your description is pretty close to the Ayaneo Flip. I don't think OLED is going to be on the cards anytime soon for a display that size, unless people would settle on the Switches 720p panel, but I don't even think companies would even entertain the idea of including a panel with that low of a resolution. Personally, I would love a 720p OLED panel, as I mostly plan on playing all games at 720p to conserve battery life and performance anyway.
@iLuvGaming
@iLuvGaming 2 жыл бұрын
aesthetically it looks really pleasing
@memphiskite
@memphiskite 2 жыл бұрын
I don't find the 1-hour battery life or even 2-hour battery life acceptable for my standards on a portable console, as I won't be able to enjoy long playtimes with RPG's. I'm glad these reviews are coming out as it makes my choices easier within the growing market.
@AJOrdaz
@AJOrdaz 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I have my order locked. Will be perfect for indie games, light emulation and streaming
@natwarnock
@natwarnock 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people are saying the battery life is the deal breaker, but the real issue is a lot of these PC handhelds are releasing at significantly higher prices than the Steam Deck while being less powerful. There's not really any reason to pick one of these up at a premium when you can wait for a Steam Deck.
@DienerNoUta
@DienerNoUta 2 жыл бұрын
The Aynn loki, a REAL portable device, not like the steam deck, will have a better processor than the steam and the price isn't that high.
@alinepiroutek8932
@alinepiroutek8932 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot Steam Deck don't ship to 90% of the countries of the world
@natwarnock
@natwarnock 2 жыл бұрын
@@alinepiroutek8932 that doesn't mean you should buy an inferior product.
@alinepiroutek8932
@alinepiroutek8932 2 жыл бұрын
@@natwarnock It is a different market: AOKZOE for those who like heavy handhelds Aya Neo Air for those who like light handheld gaming Steam Deck for those who live on supported countries and hate OLED
@natwarnock
@natwarnock 2 жыл бұрын
@@alinepiroutek8932 if you like light handheld gaming, there are significantly better options out there than an short lasting $500 portable PC.
@2annie1chalice11
@2annie1chalice11 2 жыл бұрын
That's a reaaaal in depth review! Btw. Became a Kickstarter for the AOKZOE A1 after your review, but can you do a in depth for that one, too?
@RetroGameCorps
@RetroGameCorps 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I already shipped that one back, so I won’t be able to do another video on it unless they send me a retail review unit.
@velazkid
@velazkid 2 жыл бұрын
Mine should be coming in the next few weeks. I'm planning on using Moonlight for pretty much everything since I already have a 3080 powered PC. Using Moonlight rather than natively running games installed on the device sidesteps pretty much EVERY issue this device has so I'm hyped. And since this is the only handheld with an OLED, that makes every other handheld irrelevant for me haha. I've already been using Moonlight on my iPhone at 1080p60 and its been flawless.
@segafrog
@segafrog 2 жыл бұрын
did u buy it from indiegogo? is it safe to buy from there (i've never bought from there, and i'm based in the U.K)
@velazkid
@velazkid 2 жыл бұрын
@@segafrog thats totally dependent on who you give money too. Some companies are more reputable than others. AyaNeo has been good, whereas Ayn has been less successful at meeting demand for their Odin handhelds. And you shouldn’t look at it like you’re “buying” a product on IGG. Its crowdfunding, not Amazon. So that always has its risks.
@segafrog
@segafrog 2 жыл бұрын
@@velazkid thanks!, i'm gonna go for it .. . . ..Has your one been shipped yet?
@velazkid
@velazkid 2 жыл бұрын
@@segafrog Yup! Should be here on the 12th.
@segafrog
@segafrog 2 жыл бұрын
​@@velazkid brilliant. i'm buying one as soon as the funds clear (i sweet-talked my mum into giving me the money to buy one but the funds haven't transferred over yet (shameful i know, lol)😄 ... . Am pretty sure it'll be the right handheld for me because 1: it's actually a 'handheld' as in it's not too heavy to hold for long periods, 2: it's OLED which i love for the rich colours and 'real black' not washed-out greys, and 3: it's plenty powerful enough for the kinds of games & emulators i like. Peace out dude and i'll check in on your channel in a week or two to see if you do an opening/review etc 👍
@JordiLA
@JordiLA 2 жыл бұрын
wooww the Oled intro! 😍
@capuman
@capuman 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as usual! just to confirm, all these tests where done on the air lite model right? so on the pro model your battery tests should be better right?
@exklimexklim
@exklimexklim 2 жыл бұрын
I love this type of long videos. ((Before going to bed))
@justinreschke3642
@justinreschke3642 2 жыл бұрын
I put in a reservation for steam deck and a Loki max. The air pro version seems like a fine unit, but I'm willing to wait a bit longer for an rdna2 apu.
@RandomPlaceHolderName
@RandomPlaceHolderName 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Buying Vega in H2 2022 is a weird move.
@randchuck2492
@randchuck2492 2 жыл бұрын
I'd also love to see tests of the gyro. Gyro is a huge selling point for me.
@RetroGameCorps
@RetroGameCorps 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Wii U section of the review, I show off gyro there. It works well!
@randchuck2492
@randchuck2492 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroGameCorps Yeah, It's cool that it works for things like Wii U and 3ds with a third party program but I'm more interested in how it works with PC games and wii as a cursor. I'm hoping it's as smooth as the steam deck experience where gyro can be set as the mouse input at any time. The steam deck really does such an amazing job of easily being able to use gyro with any game and I'm hoping that aya space has a toggle for gyro as mouse/stick emulation readily accessible.
@josephmorales652
@josephmorales652 Жыл бұрын
I just got one for 360. I’m excited.
@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh
@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh 2 жыл бұрын
i wish AYA went all the way and played more with the OLED display with things like built in software filters (for example to imitate CRT scanlines) and tuned black frame insertion at 60Hz
@linuxgeex
@linuxgeex 2 жыл бұрын
@2:54 What exactly is a "Zen 3 iGPU"? Is it RDNA ? RDNA2? How about a relevant stat?
@RetroGameCorps
@RetroGameCorps 2 жыл бұрын
Here is more information on the chip. www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-5-5560u
@TRENKROM
@TRENKROM 2 жыл бұрын
The OLED switch really makes every other handheld screen seem too small in comparison
@packlesswolf1
@packlesswolf1 2 жыл бұрын
Not the steam Deck. It's the same as the OLED. Plus it's a much better and more powerful system that can play all the Nintendo switch games in higher settings so it destroys the switch in every way.
@Teremei
@Teremei 2 жыл бұрын
@@packlesswolf1 except comfort. I tried the steam deck for a day. I hate the layout of the left analog and dpad. That' something power can't fix. The ayaneo air looks great to me specifically due to size and comfort.
@ivanbenja4
@ivanbenja4 2 жыл бұрын
@@Teremei Long term for your hand comfort, the position of SD sticks is much better. A day to get used to it is way too little experience to make statements like that. I felt overwhelmed the first time too, but after using it for a couple of months, it grew on me. I have the Odin and Switch aswell, but the stick layout is cramp central because they don't have anything to grip onto.
@Kazuma232
@Kazuma232 2 жыл бұрын
I'm excited for this device I'm going for the 1499 version
@100toeface
@100toeface 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like PC gaming basically just requires playing near an outlet. Essentially if you need something portable that you can take to different outlets, then aya neo air makes sense. The switch tegra chip is optimized to be power efficient, so it is more of a practical portable gaming solution. I was looking for something to use with my nreal air glasses, and even though switch requires a dock and an adapter just to output to them, you don't need an outlet nearby to play.
@addyb77
@addyb77 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered the air base model (black) should compliment the steam Deck nicely. Battery does suck balls but I wont be commuting with it, plus my power bank will give me extra juice if not near a socket.
@SapioiT
@SapioiT 2 жыл бұрын
What I don't like about those consoles (with the exception of the Steam Deck) is that the controls are not symmetrical. Why can't they keep both joysticks at the top or in the middle, and both 4-buttons in the middle or on the top? The lack of touchpad also makes this less usable than the Steam Deck. I honestly wish we would see more handheld PCs, and I'm surprised that only Lenovo has announced a handheld PC so far, from the mainstream laptop manufacturers. The first versions are excused if they have mistakes, by the customers, if they are more affordable (with pre-orders being how they are) than the Steam Deck. And there could be thicker handheld PCs with more battery, more cooling, and more things in general, like, for example: a 3.5 inch SSD, a folding keyboard which stays in place like on a laptop, webcam + camera which can rotate on 2 or 3 axis (pitch, yaw, and optionally roll), maybe a second-screen addon which folds onto the main screen and keyboard, and maybe the option to use flat joysticks (with micrometer or touchpad mechanism, with two sliders (instead of analog triggers) moving the joystick without changing it's angle around a pivot, which is also lower profile, which would also allow for zero-ing the joysticks on the fly, for when you change the springs or for when you want the screen to keep rotating one way steadily, like to orbit around a place while you're AFK), and definitely a lot more ports (including a combo headset+microphone port and 2 separate ports for headphones and microphone, allowing 2 people to listen to the same or different things, especially with 2 screens, especially with a separate controller connected to the handheld PC). *Edit:* It must also have full Linux drivers, and optionally also Windows 10 drivers. And I'm fully expecting to see smartphones running Linux having joysticks (the flat version I mentioned or the conventional version pushed inwards to not be broken inside a pocket), 4-buttons, index-finger button and middle-finger spring-loaded slider instead of analog triggers, optionally also touchpads, added to each side of the screen, which to be marketed as Handheld Gaming PCs, even if they are only useful for emulating older games, because if it can run SteamOS or WineSapOS or a lighterweight distro with all the necessary software, then people would still be able to play lighterweight PC games on them, or even use them as laptop replacements, because you only need a charging brick o use them, no mouse needed, no desk or lap space needed, and which can be used while walking (unlike a laptop, for example). I expect the price for such Linux Handheld PC Smartphones to be starting from $100, maybe less, depending on the processing power it has and the drivers and customization options. I'm also expecting gamers to embrace 540p with integer-scaling to 1080p.
@zzsebzz
@zzsebzz 2 жыл бұрын
The build quality is exceptional. GPD should take note and feel ashame.
@vagrantender
@vagrantender 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the Odin lite can do a lot that this can but it’s 300 less. I just wish I knew it would ship right away.
@KyleRuggles
@KyleRuggles 2 жыл бұрын
I got an Odin base and it already runs circles around this device for battery life. Plus when streaming, we can save even more power, unlike these devices which can only get a max of 3-4 hours of battery life, unless it's possible to lower the TDP lower than 5 watts.
@shlokshah5379
@shlokshah5379 2 жыл бұрын
@@KyleRuggles its possible to go 4 if you want but not recomended.
@vagrantender
@vagrantender 2 жыл бұрын
@@KyleRuggles that's what I'm talking about. I'm saying this device is the garbo
@Dairunt1
@Dairunt1 2 жыл бұрын
One question; can you automically set different TDPs depending on if you're plugged to an outlet?
@LucasFGodoy
@LucasFGodoy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You’re great reviewer! I’ve bought one Aya neo air semi pro😂 (5560u) same species the normal but battery similar to the pro.
@elasmojones
@elasmojones 2 жыл бұрын
It may be difficult to ever go back to the smaller screen after that 7" sweet spot
@CF542
@CF542 2 жыл бұрын
It's a tempting unit but I don't see much advantage over the well supported Steamdeck and the the Nintendo Switch OLED. I think if this AYANEO gets a newer APU and better battery life, it would be compelling.
@randchuck2492
@randchuck2492 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered the air base and the 5560U isn't even that big of a deal to me personally. There are still a ton of great games that can be played on this device. My only concern is that battery, especially on the base model. I definitely hope a mod or charging case comes out for it because I can tell that I'll love the device despite already owning a steam deck.
@CF542
@CF542 2 жыл бұрын
@@randchuck2492 Agreed. If the battery only lasts an hour or 90 minutes new, consider how bad it’ll be 12 months from now.
@liamness
@liamness 2 жыл бұрын
I get the impression they've put a lot of effort into the design and manufacture of this shell. The ergonomics and fit + finish seem fantastic. Would be cool to see them try and get a few years of mileage out of the tooling by updating the guts, but keeping the look and feel and controls roughly the same (kind of like what laptop manufacturers typically do).
@blacksamuraisoffendme
@blacksamuraisoffendme 2 жыл бұрын
Both aren’t readily available so neither
@angeluxgaminguploads5352
@angeluxgaminguploads5352 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice looking device. The Phawx, in his video recommends the pro version of this because of the battery life and possible heat dissipation benefits.
@richardmunn3571
@richardmunn3571 2 жыл бұрын
If you peeled of the “do not peel” label, but not the rest, would you have an instant screen protector?
@AmartharDrakestone
@AmartharDrakestone 2 жыл бұрын
They really should've went with a lower resolution screen. This device really doesn't have a good enough GPU or battery life for 1080p gaming.
@adamcdx
@adamcdx 2 жыл бұрын
The AYANEO team were looking into that. The issue is that OLED panels that aren’t already mass produced cost a lot more to use or develop. Chances are the 5.5” 1080p display they’re using actually cost less than using a 5.5” 720p screen because 1080p being more prevalent due to smartphones.
@KyleRuggles
@KyleRuggles 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamcdx Wish they had an option for a 6 inch LCD. 5.5... it's just a tad too small for the games it'll be played on it. This is why I'm contemplating getting the Loki Mini Pro with the I3 processor and battery boost of 46wh. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipiciIynp7qrd5o
@eddiemarx8927
@eddiemarx8927 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamcdx shoulda got rid of the oled but they wanted to be the first windows with oled.smh
@yoshimansxl
@yoshimansxl 2 жыл бұрын
What will the battery life be of the aya neo air plus? If it is also not good then I get an ayn loki mini pro.
@KyleRuggles
@KyleRuggles 2 жыл бұрын
I'll probably get a Loki Mini pro with the I3/battery upgrade. ETA's video on that processor is impressive. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipiciIynp7qrd5o
@ThangPlants
@ThangPlants 2 жыл бұрын
oh god I hate where the right hand joy stick is. that would absolutely bug the shits out of me
@Mr.Kratoast
@Mr.Kratoast 2 жыл бұрын
The screen size, battery life, and price point make this so hard to even consider. I knew I could count on Russ to give a real review. I'll sit tight with my steam deck.
@djayjp
@djayjp 2 жыл бұрын
17:45 The difference in sharpness would be nil if comparing native res. Yes 720p or 800p panel is the way to go
@aaronnathaniel95
@aaronnathaniel95 2 жыл бұрын
can u charge this with a powerbank??
@SamuHell782
@SamuHell782 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Steam Deck that I don't have, but the day the AYANEO Air 2 comes out hopefully with 6600U or 6800U I might change my mind.
@alinepiroutek8932
@alinepiroutek8932 2 жыл бұрын
Until Air 2 comes, there is the heavy Aya Neo 2 with 6800U. Heavy and big like Steam Deck(with OLED)
@mathisblair2798
@mathisblair2798 2 жыл бұрын
At that point; id just get a steam deck...
@NinjaDeathTeddy
@NinjaDeathTeddy 2 жыл бұрын
*Picks up Australian plug* "I think this one's for Antarctica" 😂
@godhero2566
@godhero2566 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if just using led could've made the battery life longer
@mindaugasstankus5943
@mindaugasstankus5943 2 жыл бұрын
Doubt, small panel LED vs OLED power usage difference are negligible. Only if constantly displaying white screen LED would be OLED on power usage.
@ryukaze20
@ryukaze20 2 жыл бұрын
I'll definitely wait for the "next... next" iterations instead as I need the money for some important expenses and I just got the Odin Base a few months ago. The battery life is a buzzkill, but the prospect of more choices is better than just only a few.
@mfreddy22
@mfreddy22 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I used to like to tinker, I've scratched that itch on my recent few devices. Now we are talking tdp, resolution, for every game for every system. I know this will be the norm for all these reviews upcoming but man that's too much for me.
@thanhclips
@thanhclips 2 жыл бұрын
That battery alone was enough for me to jump ship to ayn loki mini pro i3 model. At $435, you can get both upgrade of 8505 to i3 and 40wh to 48wh battery. Sure it's not as powerful, but getting a battery from 28wh to 48wh is dramatic.
@sirrah9533
@sirrah9533 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@KyleRuggles
@KyleRuggles 2 жыл бұрын
That's my exact thoughts, exactly! Larger screen, bigger battery, and a more power efficient chip that can still play ps3! Did you see ETA's video on that processor? kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipiciIynp7qrd5o My only gripe about the Loki is they're not that developed in the software department, still with the Odin and delivery.. I got an Odin, backer #833 and if I order a Loki now, I'm not sure when I'll get it. Honestly I think I'll just wait a lil while cuz I can already game stream with my Odin and get like 7-9 hours of battery life.
@gusibiza
@gusibiza 2 жыл бұрын
@@KyleRuggles But if you also play streaming on this Aya Neo Air you will also have many more hours of battery life.
@Kewlest1089
@Kewlest1089 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure about the wait though
@shlokshah5379
@shlokshah5379 2 жыл бұрын
@@gusibiza even on 5 watts (lowest tdp from official software) it has a battery life of only 3 hours.
@JimmahRL
@JimmahRL 2 жыл бұрын
I finally feel lost again about which device I should purchase or wait for (which I think is overall a good thing). How would this device compare against the i3 16gb Loki Mini Pro?
@redscorpion9325
@redscorpion9325 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed all these other Handheld Devices including the one weaker than Steam Deck,you can bring the TDP up to 25W or more but Steam Deck it would only all me to control it from 12TDP and down,I wonder if there’s a way to unlock to bring TDP up to 25W
@paulbaxx
@paulbaxx Жыл бұрын
I have a Problem If i Press L3 or R3 the Stick Sensibility goes Up. 🤔
@kenmasters9784
@kenmasters9784 2 жыл бұрын
When is it officially available, cuz the website says its not guaranteed you'll get one
@gumbyx84
@gumbyx84 2 жыл бұрын
Another great review. While I didn't order a AyaNeo Air, I'm patiently waiting on my Analogue Pocket and Ayn Loki Zero. Can't wait for your review of and suggested tweaks for the Loki Zero. One question thought: Why didn't you use Emulation Station Desktop Version instead of Retrobat? You might have answered this before, but have you looked into grips for your Switches?
@Dumpster-J-
@Dumpster-J- 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried FxSound on the Aya Neo models ? I have had a Pro and Now have a Next. FxSound made the speakers sound a significant amount better. I'm usually a skeptic but it is really remarkable on everything I've ever tried it on with bad speakers including a laptop.
@RetroGameCorps
@RetroGameCorps 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of it, I'll check it out, thanks!
@Dumpster-J-
@Dumpster-J- 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroGameCorps awesome I'd love to hear your feedback. Thank you for your videos on these devices.
@FFXfever
@FFXfever 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just surprised there's still 16:9 oleds in production. The last time we've seen one is in 2017, with the last 5.5" being in 2016.
@tdata545
@tdata545 2 жыл бұрын
PHEW there are two USB C ports, that was troubling or maybe I was thinking of the LOKI and AYN line up that may not have a top USB C port. YOU NEED AT LEAST TWO especially if you're not offering full USB A ports. I also make this argument with Android Tablets as well, they should offer two.
@Late_AyeF
@Late_AyeF 2 жыл бұрын
I back the IGG last week only because the AYN Loki launch is looking iffy. I do feel that I'm overpaying for what is likely to be a less capable device but it's very likely to ship a lot sooner. Besides having to plug in more often, this ticks most of my boxes. Thanks for the real world gaming tests. This does all I plan on using it for pretty well, which is indie to mid-tier graphic titles from the Game Pass PC library. You mentioned being able to add GOG and Epic Games to the front end launcher. I assume you can add Xbox app titles as well, right?
@RetroGameCorps
@RetroGameCorps 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can add Xbox games as well. A few that I tested in this video (like Peppa Pig and that racing car golf game) are from GamePass, but I forgot to mention that.
@Late_AyeF
@Late_AyeF 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroGameCorps Thanks for the speedy reply. Love your videos. They've helped me a ton.
@welshmouse
@welshmouse 2 жыл бұрын
Oled means perfect scanlines, so rather than playing later consoles at 720p, you should try 480p with a good CRT filter. I bet that will look great and also use less power.
@LoggyDev
@LoggyDev 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted a handheld pc, but can't afford it. Might make my own with a pc stick and 3d printed case.
@OldDolio312
@OldDolio312 2 жыл бұрын
Really need someone reviewing the Pro model
@mariojavierquintanarodrigu4368
@mariojavierquintanarodrigu4368 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Russ, I don't have a handheld console and I want to buy one. I have only $200, which handled do You recommend me to buy?
@LucasFGodoy
@LucasFGodoy 2 жыл бұрын
Did you manage to run Switch games? I’m struggling to it. It only opened with OpenGL api. But impossible to play, too slow!
@kenkwok83
@kenkwok83 2 жыл бұрын
I had this preordered very early bird for the pro model but I just can’t bring myself to buy it. With the shipping and upgrades it will cost a bomb. It’s still not quite there yet with the battery and screen size. I think I’ll wait a little longer. That oled screen is sick though
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