Yaron Answers: What's Wrong With Free Health Care?

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Ayn Rand Institute

Ayn Rand Institute

12 жыл бұрын

Yaron Brook answers a question from Chris: Why is it a bad thing for people to have free health care?" www.laissezfaireblog.com
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@kjakobsen
@kjakobsen 12 жыл бұрын
"What's Wrong With Free Health Care?" Besides the fact, that nothing is free?
@Ali-gh7rj
@Ali-gh7rj 4 жыл бұрын
So you want doctors to treat you for free and not get paid, get out of here with your socialist/communist ideology
@russe19642
@russe19642 4 жыл бұрын
Only conservatives love phrasing it as free,its not free but niether are govt schools,police forces or fire brigades but you dont like knowing that do you because you cant argue they're nit,usa usa usa youre not taking my guns bullshit doesnt cut the mustard and for being the best country in the world?well there's so many other countries in the world better,my own country australia pisses all over you guys and we're an island so we dont have to build a wall,hows that going for as well
@leoquintero437
@leoquintero437 3 жыл бұрын
Russe Lmao, you guys have a shit healthcare system. It’s funny because I’m pretty sure around half of your population has private insurance, yet you have universal healthcare in your amazing country. The gov has to deal with your rural half so they send grants to pay regionally for healthcare, talk about inefficient allocation of resources
@russe19642
@russe19642 3 жыл бұрын
@@leoquintero437 umm no we dont have a shit healthcare,its actually the 2nd best but its true the conservatives here dont want it and undermine it by giving tax allowances for private and make those that dont have it pay an extra 2% a year for every year theyre not in,but aussies are smarter than that and the universal healthcare will never be replaced and even conservatives know its a political deathwish saying it should go.Dont know what country youre from,but we're happy here and its not an issue
@nakkiolololo4581
@nakkiolololo4581 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ali-gh7rj u pay taxez mate, and also ur treatment costs 1000 dollars but they charge u 10000 dollars, ok, yes
@captainplanet999
@captainplanet999 11 жыл бұрын
well why should i pay for the war machine? or for the roads? or for oil subsidies? or for corporate jet subsidies?
@badasunicorn6870
@badasunicorn6870 5 жыл бұрын
Heeey! There's my anarcho-buddy, eh?
@robf8023
@robf8023 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a free country that you choose to live in. If you choose to live in America you contribute to your safety, to the roads you use everyday, and for the gas you consume.
@robf8023
@robf8023 3 жыл бұрын
@Ivan Schlotzky I agree with you
@joshsmit779
@joshsmit779 3 жыл бұрын
Socialism for the rich, radical capitalism for the 99%.
@stevied3400
@stevied3400 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshsmit779 It should be radical capitalism for 100%
@cosmicbluevox1001
@cosmicbluevox1001 2 жыл бұрын
"Someone has to pay for health care" Taxes, income tax, taxes on goods and services. oh I forgot, it all went to military.
@noahremnek3615
@noahremnek3615 2 жыл бұрын
The government spends more on healthcare than the military but okay whatever.
@biggibbs4678
@biggibbs4678 2 жыл бұрын
have you heard of Medicare and Medicaid?
@dae1925
@dae1925 2 жыл бұрын
US Healthcare budget: 1.6 Trillion Dollars US Military Budget: 750 billion dollars
@noahandersen3300
@noahandersen3300 2 жыл бұрын
@@noahremnek3615 the US? because thats just untrue
@noahremnek3615
@noahremnek3615 2 жыл бұрын
@@noahandersen3300 Yes the US spends more on healthcare than the military. Look at our budgets.
@paulm2467
@paulm2467 2 жыл бұрын
The American Healthcare system, brilliant for insurance companies, disastrous for patients.
@nathanlovik1753
@nathanlovik1753 10 ай бұрын
Health insurance companies margins are only between 3 to 8% and a few LOSE money ie there are no profits. How are they benefiting?
@paulm2467
@paulm2467 10 ай бұрын
@@nathanlovik1753 30% of US bills go for administration, the executives, insurance companies, shareholders and management are ripping everyone off. Your drug companies and hospital are massively overcharging for all services, treatments and medicines. The end result is that you pay twice as much for a worse service with a lower average age of death, much worse infant and maternal mortality rates, and half a million bankruptcies every year.
@RandomGuy-ft3cj
@RandomGuy-ft3cj 7 ай бұрын
​@@nathanlovik1753those profits are in the billions even if in 3% to 8% nd because of the ACA, insurances often get subzidized by the government. So the private sector is benefiting. The public and the government are paying the price with our tax dollars, life's, and wallets. Why must we need profit to save someone's life, can you so easily put a price on someone's life.
@TheEldenSandwich
@TheEldenSandwich Ай бұрын
@@nathanlovik1753 that is so dumb its crazy
@nathanlovik1753
@nathanlovik1753 Ай бұрын
​@TheEldenSandwich Red Herring adhominem fallacy. You haven't refuted anything I said, merely attacked me.
@keifer7813
@keifer7813 10 ай бұрын
1:15 So if your neighbour was dying and you could've helped prevent their death - you won't do anything? Not the kind of society I'd wanna live in
@lewjg2933
@lewjg2933 5 күн бұрын
He’s saying the government shouldn’t force me to help him, if a individual wants to help him that their choice.
@keifer7813
@keifer7813 5 күн бұрын
@@lewjg2933 I think it should. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's illegal in most places to let someone die if you could've reasonably saved them without posing any danger to yourself
@lewjg2933
@lewjg2933 5 күн бұрын
@@keifer7813 that’s not true at all, for example if someone is drowning in a pool and and a olympic swimmer is pool side and doesn’t help him, he isn’t going to be prosecuted by any country I know of.
@keifer7813
@keifer7813 5 күн бұрын
@@lewjg2933 Fair, maybe I misunderstood the law in this regard. However, I would ask you why you have an issue with being required to help save someone's life with your taxes?
@lewjg2933
@lewjg2933 5 күн бұрын
@@keifer7813 I live in England so I am required to pay for “free healthcare” which can use if I wish, government health is extremely expensive in the uk it’s extremely inefficient, for example if I want a doctors appointment it would probably take 3 weeks plus to get one and the last time I went to the hospital with a suspected broken rib I was at the hospital for over 7 hours. A great quote I heard about healthcare is you can pay with money or you can pay with time.
@eltacmansur
@eltacmansur Жыл бұрын
- Doesnt want universal healthcare *gets charged $23 for a box of tissue in hospital*
@diegomorales8616
@diegomorales8616 8 жыл бұрын
If I have a "right" to your labor and the products of your labor, then what principle limits my claims on you?
@hannecatton2179
@hannecatton2179 6 жыл бұрын
The principle of free and democratic elections enabling change of government and policies !
@thunberbolttwo3953
@thunberbolttwo3953 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing.Thats why you have shrtages.And rationing.
@mobilechikane8574
@mobilechikane8574 6 жыл бұрын
Doctors in countries with universal healthcare (the entire first world) either work privately in partnership with the state, are directly paid by the state, or work privately. Where in your head do you see this as slavery?
@thunberbolttwo3953
@thunberbolttwo3953 6 жыл бұрын
Liam Gordon because to get paid the Doctors have to do what the stae tell tem what to do.They have to follow the rules and regulations.
@mobilechikane8574
@mobilechikane8574 6 жыл бұрын
Doctors have to follow rules and regulations whether they're privately or state-run. Following your logic I guess the police, firefighters, etc are slaves according to you too?
@WhirlOmar
@WhirlOmar 4 жыл бұрын
Yes somebody has to pay for it but the price manipulation by lobbyists, the medical companies, and the insurance companies are the crux of the problem I think.
@earlnoli
@earlnoli 2 жыл бұрын
has to do with a lot of regulations too. it is hard to have a surviving business that deals a lot of red tape and potential lawsuits etc. They can jack up the price because the cost of entry and stating in business is high. The only way to lower cost is making sure a lot of people are supplying health care services - small clinics, small hospitals free or little liability. But everyone is also looking for that million dollar malpractice win or like the mcdonalds 4mil lawsuit. It is just a culture of everyone going for the money so people protect from each other and that drives up cost and stops potential viable business from starting.
@evilreborn4088
@evilreborn4088 2 жыл бұрын
You try to stop that and many will quit. Doctors shortage everywhere. Subpar treatment. At the end the question comes to you want your life or money.
@tatsuokimura5668
@tatsuokimura5668 2 жыл бұрын
@@earlnoli Health is not a bussiness, is a right.
@earlnoli
@earlnoli 2 жыл бұрын
@@tatsuokimura5668 actually it would have been better if it was a business where everyone can compete with less regulation - it would make the cost way way down. Making something a right does not make it free... someone still needs to pay for it and if you make it a right without proper thought you could end up ruining it like making it cost way way more by forcing bad incentives. For example you could say food is a right and we force farmers to grow food and have to sell their goods at bad specific rates. If the incentive is not correct farmers end up doing something else and there would be less food making the cost of food higher overall. Because slavery and force labor does not work. Free healthcare makes doctors slaves of regulation and price control. That is why socialism does not work eventually after sometime of bad incentives. A better move of the govt is bulk billing - making some procedures cheaper by buying upfront for example x number of procedures at bidding. Here in AU healthcare is not free per se it comes from taxes and once you reach a certain bracket of salary it would be cheaper to opt to private insurance. And I see a lot of bulk billing for general stuff so I have yet to pay out of pocket but I pay for insurance... so healthcare is not totally free in AU - just cost less. And this system wont work if there are a lot of illegals which in AU is almost non existent because taxes need to cover the cost (for illusion of free) and illegals and non workers destroys that illusion. USA is problematic because it is an insurance led health care system and govt dont assist in bulk billing and force hospitals a lot of bad policies that hospitals now have to recoup somewhere else. There are a lot of non payers too in US - illegals, non workers, etc. Saying healthcare is not a business is a joke because it is. It has to employ people, lawyers, directors, staff etc. The cost of lawyers alone for hospitals in US make up a lot in increase cost to mitigate malpractice lawsuits. And whenever hospitals subsidizes something using its own money it will have to take from other paying customer to make it a viable business model... else hospitals will go bankrupt. Anyway there is a lot to explain more but I dont think you can read even this long.
@tatsuokimura5668
@tatsuokimura5668 2 жыл бұрын
@@earlnoli I know, is not for "free" , a health system costs the government, which has to use the state budget to finance it. And yes, there are also food programs for those who are going through a situation of poverty, at least the countries that best manage this know that it is not about giving away food, but about helping these people not to die of hunger, to overcome themselves and be more productive. However, what makes a comprehensive health system a human need is that it protects everyone, many people are not guilty of having accidents, being born with health problems or being attacked by armed madmen, you should know that very well in United States. So the fact of seeing a child dying of cancer because his family does not have money to pay for a treatment that he did not even think would exist is something completely absurd in a modern society, or worse, I have seen news of people who have stayed thousands of dollars in debt for coronavirus treatment even with private health insurance because insurance companies didn't want to cover certain services. Does that seem fair to you? Those people were, as a fan of the conservative right would say, irresponsible people who did not prevent? When they paid for years of insurance that ended up being useless.
@MrT0777
@MrT0777 8 жыл бұрын
Us national debt= +18 trillion dollars. How much money is this new extension of the government going to cost? 17 trillion dollars... It will literally double the United States' debt over night. Why do people think this is a good idea? Let's be very generous and say 50 million Americans can't afford healthcare, that number is almost equal to the number of Americans that are considered poor (45 million). The only way you could realistically pay for this even in the long LONG term is to drastically cut every other government program (including the military and social welfare programs) for YEARS and raise taxes to the highest levels they have ever been. Thereby creating more poverty! Nothing is free!!!
@thunberbolttwo3953
@thunberbolttwo3953 6 жыл бұрын
Actaully the us national debt is 20 not 18 trillion.
@rishoej155
@rishoej155 5 жыл бұрын
Well you have to look to the future, you have to invest longterm not shortterm which is what America is currently doing
@dawoodh1932
@dawoodh1932 5 жыл бұрын
Pedro Tomé No, healthcare is a service, not a right.
@dawoodh1932
@dawoodh1932 5 жыл бұрын
Pedro Tomé Privilege**
@TheEndingAbyss
@TheEndingAbyss 5 жыл бұрын
@@dawoodh1932 To 30% Americans yes, to 70% of Americans and the rest of the modern world... no.
@branc2658
@branc2658 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously the best Health Care system is when a person injured in a car accident asks you not to call an ambulance because it costs too much.
@yeemem4580
@yeemem4580 2 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Tirmanator oh thats every accident right thats such a shallow and incorrect way of living there’s something wrong in the usa univeral healthcare is the wau
@branc2658
@branc2658 2 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Tirmanator why should I pay for the Army if I don't wanna fight anyone? Why should I pay for Police or Firefighters if I have never been involved in a robbery, or an omicide or a fire? How funny that in the united States' guns are a right and to kill someone is a right roo, but to save someone's life is not a human right? Healthcare system in all other countries in the world is conceived to save lives, not to make money
@tefky7964
@tefky7964 2 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Tirmanator How is it possible that countries with free healthcare have doctors?
@branc2658
@branc2658 2 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Tirmanator in all the nations with universal healthcare, doctors are payed very well But we pay only doctors. We don't give nothing to let insurance's managers getting richer and richer, and we pay just the right price for medicines, because governments fix the prices in our favor. How do you explain that one dose of insuline costs in Europe and Canada just 10 or 15 euros, while in the States the same insulin costs 600 dollars? May be someone from his holiday's house in the Barbados could tell you one or two things.
@better_dead_than_red
@better_dead_than_red 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, so poor (useless) dude dies and smart people don't pay for him.
@jeviosoorishas181
@jeviosoorishas181 7 жыл бұрын
The concept of individual rights still goes over most people's heads. When you believe that humans are self-destructive and life is a zero-sum game, you embrace socialism, so you can have bureaucrats save humans from themselves. Yet it is almost a certainty, that our modern wealth and standard of living did not come from such assumptions, but in fact that such assumptions are a byproduct of our feudal past. Envy is indeed a very strong reality altering drug.
@molonlabe3619
@molonlabe3619 5 жыл бұрын
I think you have summed it up brilliantly! Thank you for that, especially the last part. Respect 🤛
@badasunicorn6870
@badasunicorn6870 5 жыл бұрын
I aggree, but you're describing authoriterianism, not socialism. Many socialists wants the state to take care of things, which is a terrible way to run things in a complex system. Libertarian values; that people should take control by them selves is much better, and leads to more prosperity, which is provable both psychologically and historically. But the imperialist states keep stuffing schools full of propaganda, and wage war for their own intetests. It needs to stop, and the system needs to go
@My2Cents91
@My2Cents91 4 жыл бұрын
​@@badasunicorn6870 You're speaking of the text book theories of Socialism. In the real world, human nature will step in and sabotage that. All socialism ultimately leads to authoritarianism, because not everyone will contribute equally, or not participate at all. You always need a big government to enforce. In the end, the enforcers will not want to relinquish that power.
@TheManinBlack9054
@TheManinBlack9054 4 жыл бұрын
@@My2Cents91 by that logic, public schools, police, army and libraries should not exist.
@WhirlOmar
@WhirlOmar 4 жыл бұрын
My2Cents Good point.
@russe19642
@russe19642 4 жыл бұрын
Love how he ties himself up trying to explain paying for health insurance and realizes he's sounding exactly like someone try to explain universal healthcare
@caseyjones831
@caseyjones831 3 жыл бұрын
These lobbyists are beyond pathetic , they fight for big pharma and big pharma alone .
@russe19642
@russe19642 3 жыл бұрын
@James Street he is not,every free country in the world has it apart from the self proclaimed freeest country in the world the usa, such a backward country its down with 3rd world standings when it comes to healthcare and that's not including where they sit educationally, like they said America is a third world country but wearing a Gucci belt
@kosrules1884
@kosrules1884 2 жыл бұрын
@@russe19642 America's not the third world country America would be a third world country if you couldn't have saved drinking water safe safe place to sleep safe place to get food. The third world country is a country like Somalia like Guatemala. Us has one of the biggest economies in the world it is not a third world country it's the fact that you can go to a school with electricity plumbing and heating and cooling. It's the fact that you can drive on a paved road. You want to see what the road looks like go to parts of Brazil they have slums in the city and tries to hide it.
@MrDeano-eu9rg
@MrDeano-eu9rg 2 жыл бұрын
@@kosrules1884 by comparison to other developed nations it's third world mate. But it doesn't have to be.
@EconBlaze
@EconBlaze 2 жыл бұрын
@@kosrules1884 I mean we have safe food and water in Guatemala what are you talking bout , also the U.S interventions in Guatemala has done nothing but negative . So do your research before talking out your ass . One more thing Detroit is not looking good for a first world country that has a lot of resources .
@AmerginMacEccit
@AmerginMacEccit 9 жыл бұрын
It is not free, that's what's wrong :) It is paid by taxpayers not directly. It all costs work, effort and time. Healthcare staff does not work for free, do they? Someone says, alright the government pays for this or that. You pay for it, the government is just a manager you fund to make those matters more convenient :) It is like in a corporation, you may own 51% but you still hire people to manage everything for you. In general, the longer route it takes to get a product or a service to a client or recipient the more expensive it gets.
@balsarmy
@balsarmy 3 жыл бұрын
But overall cost is lower.
@lukasjgffhhh
@lukasjgffhhh 3 жыл бұрын
@@balsarmy facts
@ronda147
@ronda147 3 жыл бұрын
That’s why we don’t need for it to be that way. We could do it like some other countries where there is simple a large fund that your taxes go to and then if you need healthcare you can pull out money.
@bibaolaitan5189
@bibaolaitan5189 2 жыл бұрын
@@balsarmy yea, by stealing money from some specific people...
@aldyhabibie9717
@aldyhabibie9717 2 жыл бұрын
@@bibaolaitan5189 "Its stealing money"? well, with your overall taxes as huge as it is no wonder. But you see, free healthcare funds goes straight from your taxes and it doesnt cost that much, we can pay for it everyday it felt more like saving money to be honest. And on top of that, it is a shared burden which made the cost much lower so that free healthcare can be possible for everyone. Yes everyone, the money they "steal" doesn't just disappear because it is also returns to you when you are sick or get into an accident. You will also enjoy the free healthcare even if you are very god damn rich, they will still let you get free healthcare. "free healthcare" doesnt actually refers to charity workers who are indeed wanted to help you without pay, it refers to you get to enjoy expensive treatment without paying some 10.000 dollar directly, because it is covered a long time ago with your taxes. It eases your mind. Like i said, investing. Don't hesitate to invest in yourself buddy. But i bet you won't really get it even if i spill everything here. So sorry americans, but you are just not in this game.
@11kravitzn
@11kravitzn 2 жыл бұрын
Other countries have free healthcare. Like Canada, the UK, etc. They're doing quite well. Let's just do what they're doing.
@parkermudsen1063
@parkermudsen1063 2 жыл бұрын
@SunTai study after study shows that a M4A healthcare system would save taxpayers trillions of dollars over a 10 year period compared to the current system. Even the Koch bothers funded Mercury’s Institute study showed that taxpayers would save $2T. There is no real debate as to whether or not we should transition to a single payer healthcare system like the rest of the industrialized world. The only real debate should be how we should go about doing it within a period of a few years.
@parkermudsen1063
@parkermudsen1063 2 жыл бұрын
@SunTai I saw your comment about immigrants. It's wrong, though. According to the USCBP there's been a net negative in immigration to the U.S. That means more are leaving than coming in. Here's another interesting fact. Immingrants (documented and undocumented) pay approximately $14Billion annually into a social security program that most of them will never benefit from. And lastly, without the cheap labor that immigrants provide the farming industry this country's economy would collapse, and your tomatoes would easily be $10/lb.
@parkermudsen1063
@parkermudsen1063 2 жыл бұрын
@SunTai oh, and without those social programs, there'd be millions more in much worse situations. The goal shouldn't be to diminish or eliminate them. It should be to increase funding for them.
@parkermudsen1063
@parkermudsen1063 2 жыл бұрын
@SunTai The negative influx applies to all immigrants, documented and undocumented.
@parkermudsen1063
@parkermudsen1063 2 жыл бұрын
@SunTai Net negative influx simply means that there are more leaving than there are coming in. This whole illegal immigrant problem is a manufactured problem similar to "the war on Christmas" or "democrats trying to take away your guns". It distracts from the bigger problem which is corporations exploiting labor then pitting immigrants against working class Americans so that they don't take much of the blame.
@marvindortmann1732
@marvindortmann1732 5 жыл бұрын
"It's good for everybody. It's a win-win situation..." No it isn't good for everybody. It's good for the people that can pay for health care. Without universal health care, the poorest would be damned to die from illnesses that weren't their fault. I'm a libertarian on many positions, but I can't justify a society without universal health care. Without universal health care, any form of government is almost pointless. Why invest in infrastructure that all people should profit from, when the weakest members of our society die from illnesses that could be easily prevented. Why have a military to protect the citizens from foreign threats, when the goverment doesn't care about their survival in the first place. Yaron Brook is mostly critizing the fact that "free" health care isn't free. Of course it isn't and any supporter knows that. It's nothing more than a wrong label. "I don't want to pay for your health care. Why don't you pay for your health care?" Universal health care is intended for people who CAN'T pay for their free health care. If everybody could offord it, we obviously wouldn't need such a system. The costs of the health care of individuals isn't linked to their choices. In my opinion, the government should pay for basic health care. If you want better service, you can extra pay for it. Just abolish a lot of the way too big and useless bureaucracy of western countries and instead focus on what really matters for its citizens.
@mstrainjr
@mstrainjr 5 жыл бұрын
I guess survival of the fittest is the rule here. The argument is that money should not be forced out of the hands of those who are working and succeeding in life to pay for people who may be in their poorer situations due to, say, bad decision making. For example, about half of the homeless people in the local shelter near me are sex offenders. Should money be taken out of our paychecks to care for people who put themselves in that place? Or what about people who choose to stay with their beachfront homes when a hurricane comes but then they expect other people to risk their lives to save them when the waters come in and cover their houses? I say we should let the stupid people weed themselves out instead of treating them as if they deserve the wealth that we've worked for. The reason why you're not supposed to feed wild animals is that they could become dependent on handouts and become unable to find food for themselves; but unfortunately, there are those in our government who want to keep throwing out breadcrumbs just so they can get more voters.
@clapped_globe2368
@clapped_globe2368 3 жыл бұрын
That's America for you
@rhyperiorhunter7339
@rhyperiorhunter7339 2 жыл бұрын
You took the words right out of my mouth
@lordBritish1
@lordBritish1 2 жыл бұрын
Why should I pay for you to go to a doctor or hospital As far as I see is I don’t know you, there for I don’t care about you. pay your own medical bills
@hof5943
@hof5943 2 жыл бұрын
Don't use compassion for the poor to get free stuffs for yourself. If you really care for the poor then you go pay for someone else's medical bills, and not force everyone to pay just cause you supposedly care for the poor.
@user-ev8jc7uo1v
@user-ev8jc7uo1v 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh here in Canada we have free health care no trouble, Doctors still get paid here🤨
@levity90
@levity90 3 жыл бұрын
Not enough and certainly not what they deserve given the amount of training and education the job requires.
@johannespete3760
@johannespete3760 3 жыл бұрын
@@levity90 that's just not true
@Christian-ki5js
@Christian-ki5js 3 жыл бұрын
It's a scam for obese people to take our tax
@johannespete3760
@johannespete3760 3 жыл бұрын
@@Christian-ki5js good thing you edited the first part out, cause it totally missed the point and bullshit
@Christian-ki5js
@Christian-ki5js 3 жыл бұрын
@@johannespete3760 I figured my point is far more concise now 😂
@audrey2047
@audrey2047 5 жыл бұрын
I pay for my perscritions 25%. I get benefits from work . When i didn't i bought single benefits. It is not that expensive.
@mmcnallyful
@mmcnallyful 10 жыл бұрын
So many things wrong with this video. Healthcare IS compulsory for one. You cant choose not to be sick and when you are and you don't have coverage everyone pays anyway. Whats the point in paying insurance companies a profit for moving money around? I've lived in the US, England and Canada. The US has the worst healthcare out of all of them. The most expensive and the least effective. So if I don't want to pay for other people to use Air Traffic control can we have insurance for that too?
@adriancline-bailey3301
@adriancline-bailey3301 4 жыл бұрын
Well said mate, and its from someone who's lived in the three big powers. I don't know why Americans are so blind to the extortion there being asked to pay for. Surely they'd be happy saving that money for their kids, or to start a business, or something practical. I can't understand Americans at all. They don't read any books.
@dave63864
@dave63864 5 жыл бұрын
227 people hate rupert murdoch just like i do
@lawrencemiller3829
@lawrencemiller3829 5 жыл бұрын
The first point is the term "healthcare" usually means medical treatments and institutionalization. I use the term healthcare for having a diet that promotes physical and mental well-being, not taking injurious substances like alcohol, tobacco, smoking, and drugs, proper exercise, sufficient sleep, sufficient clean water, proper work and play, handling my problems rationally, ethically, and morally, and being sufficiently careful to avoid accidents. Medical treatments and institutionalization do not insure health or physical and mental well-being. I look to the day when people use words accurately, and instead of calling medical treatments and institutionalization healthcare, calling it what it is, medical treatments and institutionalization.
@LetGoSlowMotion
@LetGoSlowMotion 10 жыл бұрын
You can't compare free clothes to free health care...
@micah_drums
@micah_drums 6 жыл бұрын
Marc You can if everyone's clothes are provided through public funding.
@hurlicane7053
@hurlicane7053 6 жыл бұрын
Yes you can compare them. What you just said, essentially means that I can’t compare anything to anything
@molonlabe3619
@molonlabe3619 5 жыл бұрын
But you CAN compare food to healthcare!!!!! I'm pretty sure what you eat is directly related to health.
@beforecuddlybunnylps841
@beforecuddlybunnylps841 5 жыл бұрын
Free healthcare did exist in 1922 - 1991
@maxmccann5323
@maxmccann5323 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe buddy if your government stopped squandering money on their military there'd be enough money to care for the people that live in their country too
@menaceman42069
@menaceman42069 2 жыл бұрын
True
@thomast3570
@thomast3570 Жыл бұрын
Medicare for All is cheaper than existing costs. No need to worry about military spending.
@moelesterofficial5920
@moelesterofficial5920 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not free healthcare but an asthma pump in America costs more than my taxes
@kevinprzy4539
@kevinprzy4539 Ай бұрын
lmao not at all, a asthma pump costs me $80 per year with very shitty state provided insurance.
@kingdomofbird8174
@kingdomofbird8174 3 жыл бұрын
There's free healthcare Don't eat sugar, don't use drugs, don't make dangerous activities, the free healthcare, is the one that you give to yourself
@grahvis
@grahvis 2 жыл бұрын
Does it prevent accidents, hereditary illnesses etc?
@peterc.1618
@peterc.1618 Жыл бұрын
Don't go into the kitchen, it's statistically the most dangerous place in the home.
@TomTom-xm3id
@TomTom-xm3id 3 жыл бұрын
It's a win win situation for the insurance companies and big pharma
@eugenespolicyproductions477
@eugenespolicyproductions477 4 жыл бұрын
Actually in proportion to population Switzerland has the most healthcare innovation.
@graffitimike1
@graffitimike1 2 жыл бұрын
But we're not talking about proportion...
@fittinginisforjigsawpieces3141
@fittinginisforjigsawpieces3141 2 жыл бұрын
@@graffitimike1 why not? OBVIOUSLY the us has the largest amount of innovation in the western world because its the biggest, but the proportion accurately measures a government's efficiency in creating healthcare innovation.
@jamesmckendry915
@jamesmckendry915 11 ай бұрын
But our system sucks and it doesn’t work in the rich people just want us to die
@MrIvesston
@MrIvesston 3 жыл бұрын
Our current healthcare system in America isn't free. Our current system has a lot of government involvement through regulations which causes our system to be very expensive. We need less medical regulations.
@peterc.1618
@peterc.1618 Жыл бұрын
Be careful what you wish for; you had no birth defects caused by thalidomide because your medical regulator did not license the drug for use in the US.
@MrIvesston
@MrIvesston Жыл бұрын
@@peterc.1618 firstly, you have no idea if I had birth defects or not so don’t say stupid things. Secondly, people thought that drug was safe because the government was regulating it in the first place. So yes, I do wish for less regulations. The government regulation caused the problem and gave people the false sense of safety.
@peterc.1618
@peterc.1618 Жыл бұрын
@@MrIvesston By you I was referring to the US (I'm in the UK), I would of course have no idea of any afflictions you personally might have or what caused them. The FDA did not license thalidomide for use in the US.
@dented42
@dented42 11 жыл бұрын
No, you are making a big assumption. You are assuming that the clients have the freedom to switch providers. Many people simply cannot afford insurance and so either must live without it or get it through their employer if they have one that provides insurance, in which case they need to use whatever policy their employer provides. The private sector would work if everyone could simply switch to providers with the best care, but the reality is that many cannot, and end up getting screwed.
@ronda147
@ronda147 3 жыл бұрын
You are right, people should die because people with lifetimes worth of money can’t give up a fraction of what they have to help others.
@ilikelebronjames6426
@ilikelebronjames6426 3 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, the hospital can’t deny you service Bc you don’t have the money, you’ll just be in debt. So nobody is dying from the fact that there is no free healthcare, their just going broke
@Gromic2k
@Gromic2k 3 жыл бұрын
@Jd Bn And everyone should be forced to pay the amount he is able to pay.
@Gromic2k
@Gromic2k 3 жыл бұрын
@James Street That concept is really childish. It doesn't work. It's like saying "if everyone takes care about himself everybody is taken care of". Which is not true
@ronda147
@ronda147 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilikelebronjames6426 Hospitals might not deny you service, but many people don’t get treatment because they are afraid of going broke. Also how is it okay for people to go broke because of something they may not have even been able to control
@ronda147
@ronda147 3 жыл бұрын
@James Street Hmm. Interesting thought. In fact, i challenge you to not use anything funded by taxpayers. This includes roads, sewage, information that you learned in public school, concrete or asphalt laid by the government, or any other tax funded services. It isn’t possible to just live on what you do for yourself. It’s quite the simple concept actually.
@cannibalisticturnip6989
@cannibalisticturnip6989 4 ай бұрын
Americans have this wrong. In Australia people are not choosing between death or risking bankruptcy at the hospital. 🤦‍♂️
@beefcakesjones2580
@beefcakesjones2580 2 ай бұрын
I don’t want to pay for the road this guy drives on. Why should the government confiscate my money?
@MsRowdyRedhead
@MsRowdyRedhead 11 жыл бұрын
You work for your lunch, that is not free at all. And BRAVO to you.
@noahandersen3300
@noahandersen3300 2 жыл бұрын
4:17 emergency is a broad term. But if you are in a near death experience then there are no queues nor papers which you need to sign
@earllsimmins9373
@earllsimmins9373 4 ай бұрын
Then why did Trump go to Walter Reed Hospital, a government run facility. No co-pays, no deductible, no out of pocket expenses. Wouldn't he have gotten better care at afor-profitt hospital?
@tevzcrnic4456
@tevzcrnic4456 3 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with free healthcare? It is cheaper for the taxpayer It covers more people It works It makes the people more healthy
@highrepublic3264
@highrepublic3264 3 жыл бұрын
you are delusional
@tevzcrnic4456
@tevzcrnic4456 3 жыл бұрын
@@highrepublic3264 sir this is a Wendy's restaurant. If you are here to argue points the door it to your left
@parkerasel8129
@parkerasel8129 4 жыл бұрын
We pay for the healthcare through taxes
@jaquillahillahfoodstamps
@jaquillahillahfoodstamps 3 жыл бұрын
Which is stupid Bc like the guy said I don’t wanna pay lots of money for mine and for ur healthcare. I wanna pay less money for my own healthcare
@omvunleashed
@omvunleashed 3 жыл бұрын
Smule Magic Piano you already do this via insurance companies. We all put in money and whoever needs the healthcare takes the money out. The only difference is that private companies get to choose your coverage, and make a profit that doesn’t have to be allocated. There’s no scenario in which it is better to have insurance over universal.
@tevzcrnic4456
@tevzcrnic4456 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and its too much. Free would litteraly be cheaper through taxes
@user-fd9rx8dh9b
@user-fd9rx8dh9b 3 жыл бұрын
Ohr Shmuel don’t people still have to file taxes at the end of the year, or pay health insurance? That’s kinda the same thing. And plus with the taxes, u only pay when u earn a certain amount of money.
@4th19th2
@4th19th2 3 жыл бұрын
@Jason Fisher Omg. Wtf.
@jackstratif9988
@jackstratif9988 3 жыл бұрын
All research indicates that the other 30 or so industrialized countries which have government funded universal healthcare far outperform the US and spend less per capita. Right there this guy’s explanation falls apart when empirically tested. But what about people with pre-existing conditions? Should they all just get driven into medical bankruptcy? Also, don’t confuse the innovations in medical science with the organization of medical care. The US has a lot of good researchers (many of which work out of government funded universities), but that is a completely separate thing from our ghastly, cruel and inefficient healthcare system which kills approximately 60,000 people a year.
@AmazingStoryDewd
@AmazingStoryDewd 2 жыл бұрын
I've been to countries with free healthcare. waiting times can be a pain and quality isn't always the best. government should never control healthcare.
@jackcarraway4707
@jackcarraway4707 2 жыл бұрын
It "works" in Europe because they don't have 300 million people where half of that figure is obese. European countries also expect the US to pay for most of the NATO budget too.
@tefky7964
@tefky7964 2 жыл бұрын
Europe has bigger population than the USA. I don´t get why you complain that we don´t have so obese population,maybe you should complain why you have and maybe try to do something with it. Almost all your food has sugar in it and atleast some bad ingredients,which are normaly used in the US, are banned in the EU and for good reasons. I agree,we don´t pay enough for our armies,but I guess that your military operations in active combat zones (to most of them you just walked in and no one forced you) costs more yet you ignore that. It is anyway pretty weird argument,you could do a lot of things and make your country much better,but you just said weird reasons why you can´t.
@thomast3570
@thomast3570 Жыл бұрын
The size of American and illegals seems to be the major arguments. And Medicare for All can be provided with in the existing defense spending. It is cheaper.
@taunoctua245
@taunoctua245 5 жыл бұрын
Our Health Care system discourages entrepreneurship. I've seen it. Whether it's the government collective running it or the insurance collective. The choices we currently have are far from Ayn Rand's desire for men to reach their full potential.
@jemugekandie2592
@jemugekandie2592 10 жыл бұрын
Nothing comes for free....we are dying from hefty taxation,i am paying for someones health services.
@jarls5890
@jarls5890 6 жыл бұрын
And somebody else is paying for your health services...
@kyled1673
@kyled1673 5 жыл бұрын
@@jarls5890 Through high taxation.
@AtheistBelgium
@AtheistBelgium 2 жыл бұрын
@@kyled1673 Not 'high' taxation. If i would live in the US and had surgery, i would have to sell my house. Now i don't and can live my life without worries.
@mkite715
@mkite715 3 жыл бұрын
“The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” -Margaret Thatcher
@Apenzuur
@Apenzuur 2 жыл бұрын
Not a socialist, but that's a nonsensical catchphrase of hers. Also there's no 'other peoples money', it's collective funds spent on collective needs. A semantic misrepresentation.
@thomast3570
@thomast3570 Жыл бұрын
And Maggie never seriously messed with the NHS.
@ethanb6982
@ethanb6982 3 жыл бұрын
but what you’re saying is that it is justifiable for hospitals to be able to profit of people being sick. you’re saying people should just get insurance like they would for a car, a phone or their house. i don’t think it is acceptable to compare someone’s life, health and well-being to an object
@niklasmolen4753
@niklasmolen4753 5 жыл бұрын
The argument he has is very weak. The state takes the same role as the insurance company, therefore it is similar system. The difference is that economically weak groups have the opportunity to receive medical care. If it will be eligible, what will be financed by state, nobody will come across, and everything is voluntary to participate, you can as well privatize the military, police and fire brigade. Many countries are satisfied with state-financed healthcare. There is nothing wrong with the system, just another way of thinking. Proper freedom is found in nature. Darwin called it "the survival of the fittest". Nature is cruel and unfair.
@plc3653
@plc3653 5 жыл бұрын
Niklas Molén except that the government has no incentive to do the job well because they are using somebody’s money on somebody else. Private insurance companies have incentive to stay in the business, so they have incentive to get the best deal with least cost to their clients. Government always ask for a bigger budget if their programs fail. They don’t close down.
@mtanousable
@mtanousable 11 жыл бұрын
"These two states passed great victories in healthcare reform, and if you don't agree with it---just keep being ripped off by the private health insurance companies." I get "ripped off" because of government mandates. And I don't care how many people want "universal care" - it can only be obtained through force and the threat of force upon those that don't agree. If I "don't like it", I cannot merely continue paying private insurance (or none) - I am forced to contribute to your scheme.
@bobmango8472
@bobmango8472 Жыл бұрын
exactly
@metalfriakipeople198
@metalfriakipeople198 9 жыл бұрын
The US pays in total 18% percent as the EU pays rughly 11% of theyr GDP... the system i cheaper and has better results, because nobody will be denied of a treatment just because the insurance doesn't cover it...
@chriswharton
@chriswharton Жыл бұрын
No country with a national health scheme refers to it as “free” health care. It’s a taxpayer funded service; just like education, police and the legal system and a myriad other services. Why Americans accept a health service that spends three times more, than the British NHS, yet delivers a more inefficient, expensive and overall worse outcomes and still believe it is superior to anything? The simple fact that doctors’ bills won’t send you bankrupt, except in the USA shouts that the system is flaws, in MHO.
@peterc.1618
@peterc.1618 Жыл бұрын
It is generally referred to as "free at the point of delivery" in the UK.
@Shytot-1
@Shytot-1 6 ай бұрын
Insurance. He doesn't want to pay for your healthcare, but he is quite happy to pay for your car to be fixed when you have a car accident, does that make sense?
@monsieurlespike7265
@monsieurlespike7265 3 жыл бұрын
The Ayn Rand Institute is a supported by the ultra-rich Koch family. That means that this guy is required, as a libertarian to side with the top 10% of the richest Americans. Libertarians can always be counted on to present policies that protect the rich at the expense of the rest of us.
@chetanyasingh1204
@chetanyasingh1204 3 жыл бұрын
Please attack the argument, not the presenter of it.
@peterc.1618
@peterc.1618 Жыл бұрын
@@chetanyasingh1204 So the tobacco studies of the 20th century that found tobacco to be harmless and even beneficial to health should be taken seriously despite being funded by the tobacco companies?
@chetanyasingh1204
@chetanyasingh1204 Жыл бұрын
@@peterc.1618 I was a lolbert then. I am a paleocon now
@nathanlovik1753
@nathanlovik1753 Ай бұрын
​@@peterc.1618 Red herring fallacy. This has nothing to do with the argument at hand.
@nathanlovik1753
@nathanlovik1753 Ай бұрын
Yaron Brook isn't a Libertarian.
@cameronchilders9076
@cameronchilders9076 4 жыл бұрын
Would the free healthcare taxation be cheaper then paying for health insurance?
@mosesking2923
@mosesking2923 4 жыл бұрын
No. In a true free market with real competition and innovation and consumer choice, you would be able to buy insurance coverage for less than a phone bill.
@Apjooz
@Apjooz 4 жыл бұрын
I would like that kind of fantasy land but reality is messy.
@mosesking2923
@mosesking2923 4 жыл бұрын
@@Apjooz Reality is actually quite clear. Capitalism leads to the lower of cost, increasing of quality, diversity of markets, innovation, and ultimately abundance. Works with iphones, TVs, cars, and everything else.
@banger2998
@banger2998 4 жыл бұрын
In the long run it would be way more expensive with “free healthcare”
@scottwilson4798
@scottwilson4798 4 жыл бұрын
Cameron Childers think for a moment about about what free markets and capitalism have done in other industries - think about the size and cost of computer power even 20 years ago. Thanks to capitalism and free enterprise, the phone that fits in your pocket has more power and a better display than the best desktop computers of those days. Imagine if instead of trying to come up with the latest smart phone innovation, entrepreneurs had the profit incentive in healthcare to come up with a cheaper way to produce drugs, or invest in new kinds of surgery, or to research cheaper, and more effective cancer treatments. Imagine the progress in quality and cost that could be made if we had freedom. Instead we have to sit and wait 4 hours to be seen for a broken arm... but “it’s okay!” we are told, because it’s “free”. We have to settle for dirt poor quality, with cancer patients wait 3 months for a scan, to then be told it’s too late now to treat. Everyone should be outraged, but instead people are brainwashed with “the government should spend more on healthcare to solve these problems”
@jamesmckendry915
@jamesmckendry915 11 ай бұрын
Selfish, selfish, selfish greedy. Someday the poor will come for you and your children don’t worry.
@ConamaraCounty
@ConamaraCounty Ай бұрын
If Public Health Care is provided to everyone equally then you are not paying for my Health Care, what is really happening is that nobody will be denied Health Care due to their financial circumstances. A Public System might control costs better and could potentially focus more on Health Promotion campaigns to avoid or mitigate the common lifestyle illnesses.
@PlateletRichGel
@PlateletRichGel 6 жыл бұрын
Healthcare should be free so the Democratic Party can get votes for big gubment.
@martineyles
@martineyles 3 жыл бұрын
In anything other than universal healthcare, paid by taxation and free at the point of use, the poor only have one choice - to die in agony because they can't afford insurance. The system in the United States is not win-win. In the UK, if you think you're having a heart attack you dial 999, but in the United States, many people in a similar situation would not dial 911 for fear of bankruptcy.
@chriswharton
@chriswharton Жыл бұрын
Or die because they couldn’t afford an ambulance to take them to hospital.
@kevinprzy4539
@kevinprzy4539 Жыл бұрын
actually yeah a lot of people do, there's a form of free healthcare in the US called medicaid and you end up paying very little maybe $100 or less after medicaid is involved.
@echochamber1234
@echochamber1234 Жыл бұрын
you can have universal healthcare without having a tax funded system like the NHS. low income people cannot afford healthcare right now because of the government screwing up the market with import restrictions, artificial monopolies, and allowing a lack of price transparency. no other private sector business is allowed to run this way
@Waikeur
@Waikeur Жыл бұрын
​@@kevinprzy4539 Do you even know what 100$ is? If you work for minimum wage it's 14 hours. And we're talking about people who don't have money already. How is that helping that helping them?
@kevinprzy4539
@kevinprzy4539 Жыл бұрын
@@Waikeur depends on the state, minimum wage in mine is $10.10 and if you work minimum wage most hospitals and insurance companies will practically let you get off free.
@johnjkiwi7818
@johnjkiwi7818 4 ай бұрын
America spends far more on healthcare per person than the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, France and Japan. And yet Americans have a lower life expectancy than people from any of these countries. Huge medical bills are the biggest cause of bankruptcies in the US, and the biggest reason for Go Fund Me campaigns.
@detroitandclevelandfan5503
@detroitandclevelandfan5503 4 ай бұрын
No. That's propaganda. Are life expectancy way better than those countries. I have had six open heart surgeries. I have met many people around the world during my time in the hospital. My parents and I have asked all of them the same thing. Why are you here, and not back in your country receiving free care? They would give the same answer. It's horrible healthcare compared to the U.S.. Also, every new surgery invented is invented here because of our healthcare. With free healthcare, you only get what the government sees fit. Instead of them spending money trying to come up with better methods of treating patients. As an example. I myself, back in 2010, had a heart Cath procedure done. It was a new type of surgery, though. The typical surgery would be checking the condition of the patient's heart valves. This new surgery was a way to replace a heart valve with a new one, using the Cath procedure. It would save the person, from having an open heart surgery. I was the second person to ever have it done, and it saved me an open heart surgery. The doctor, who I forgot that man's name but he was from Germany, and I could look up his name, when I have the time. Had to come here to the States to invent the surgery since over in Europe, the government, with the "free healthcare" decides how it should be spent. Plus, what of the horror stories of "free healthcare"? Take, the recent story, of Indi Gregory. The government controls their free healthcare, and decided her treatment, although could be cured, was cut from treatment since the British government felt she had enough treatment. They ended up killing her. Wouldn't have happened in the U.S. Plus, actually, look at the real statistics of Europe and the U.S. More people die in European hospitals than the United States, patients have the same problem, and the survival rate is better in the U.S.
@TomTom-xm3id
@TomTom-xm3id 3 жыл бұрын
That's a wrong analogy. You dont pay for their health care. We pay for our healthcare. Instead of other wasted taxes.
@darthmoodydiah2796
@darthmoodydiah2796 6 жыл бұрын
Paid for through *extortion*. Taxation is extortion by definition.
@SeptimusTSS
@SeptimusTSS 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, lets privatize roads. And fire fighting. Thats gonna be fun
@theneoenigma2094
@theneoenigma2094 4 жыл бұрын
Adam D if we privatize roads, they’d get dine even slower.
@Ali-gh7rj
@Ali-gh7rj 4 жыл бұрын
Darth Nihilus Most of our taxes get used in social funding and to pay for the large government. If we take power away from government and give it to people, end the fed, go back to gold standard, we could end taxes and just keep sales tax only
@peterharridge8565
@peterharridge8565 4 жыл бұрын
@@SeptimusTSS They are partly in the US in some states. In Texas you quite often see 'this stretch of road paid by the Workers of Walmart' (or some other company). I wonder how free the donation was. In Seattle , Washington some guy was giving me a lift to Portland to do the Portland midsummer Duathlon so I was in his house. And the Phone rang and it was the Fire Brigade, would he like to make a donation. So there you go, both roads and the Fire Brigade are partly funded by donations. And maybe by payments by people who call them out. Because when I called 911 for an ambulance, the Police and the Fire Brigade showed up as well. So I do wonder if they took a portion of the Ambulance fee.
@peterharridge8565
@peterharridge8565 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ali-gh7rj What about those in need of social funding, you say you have a large Govt. Well, I never knew. Just keep sales tax and that pays for everything. Hmmm, what about medicare for pensioners (as they don't have healthcare provision via insurance)? Children orphaned and at risk, finding places for them to stay doesn't come cheap. Of course if you just want to leave orphaned children on the street, fair enough. i guess you want to go back to Victorian times and have beggars on the street and the old in the workhouse.
@hannecatton2179
@hannecatton2179 6 жыл бұрын
I take issue with the title ´Free Health Care ´. The title should reflect what it actually is , i.e. tax funded health care. Those of us that experience such a system know full-well that it is funded with our tax contributions. We really do not have a problem with that. The title allotted to the clip greatly undermines any content due to the inability to get even the title correct. To be taken seriously you must do better than this . I am astonished by such a basic error . Try harder next time !
@nwobringiton1282
@nwobringiton1282 5 жыл бұрын
The title is just the question he’s being asked “what’s wrong with free healthcare” he even says that it’s taxpayer funded healthcare
@lee14631
@lee14631 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously you didn't watch the video
@altosmusiclab2248
@altosmusiclab2248 5 жыл бұрын
the cost model is broke; by failing to give proper care I became disabled and YOU are paying for me for the rest of my life.... haha. All I needed was the right Dx! and I'm drawing pay and still don't get the right Dx. Keep those checks coming. Thank you!
@bashbrannigan
@bashbrannigan 9 ай бұрын
There’s just too many horror stories about US healthcare to make this argument convincing.
@detroitandclevelandfan5503
@detroitandclevelandfan5503 4 ай бұрын
I have had six open heart surgeries. I have met many people around the world during my time in the hospital. My parents and I have asked all of them the same thing. Why are you here, and not back in your country receiving free care? They would give the same answer. It's horrible healthcare compared to the U.S.. Also, every new surgery invented is invented here because of our healthcare. With free healthcare, you only get what the government sees fit. Instead of them spending money trying to come up with better methods of treating patients. As an example. I myself, back in 2010, had a heart Cath procedure done. It was a new type of surgery, though. The typical surgery would be checking the condition of the patient's heart valves. This new surgery was a way to replace a heart valve with a new one, using the Cath procedure. It would save the person, from having an open heart surgery. I was the second person to ever have it done, and it saved me an open heart surgery. The doctor, who I forgot that man's name but he was from Germany, and I could look up his name, when I have the time. Had to come here to the States to invent the surgery since over in Europe, the government, with the "free healthcare" decides how it should be spent. Plus, what of the horror stories of "free healthcare"? Take, the recent story, of Indi Gregory. The government controls their free healthcare, and decided her treatment, although could be cured, was cut from treatment since the British government felt she had enough treatment. They ended up killing her. Wouldn't have happened in the U.S. Plus, actually, look at the statistics of Europe and the U.S. More people die in European hospitals than the United States, patients with the same problem, and the survival rate is better in the U.S.
@Jim54_
@Jim54_ 3 жыл бұрын
In the EU healthcare is a right
@lordBritish1
@lordBritish1 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, In The United States health care is becoming a law that you have to have it
@earbunnyisgloomy9613
@earbunnyisgloomy9613 Жыл бұрын
@@lordBritish1 a taco bell*
@mixedfeelingsaboutturning1910
@mixedfeelingsaboutturning1910 Ай бұрын
Shameful
@Jim54_
@Jim54_ 24 күн бұрын
@@mixedfeelingsaboutturning1910 you won’t be saying that after getting charged $40,000 for some stitches
@mixedfeelingsaboutturning1910
@mixedfeelingsaboutturning1910 23 күн бұрын
@@Jim54_ you can agree that healthcare is too expensive without wanting it universal or a right. Nice strawman try there though, hahaha
@jaquillahillahfoodstamps
@jaquillahillahfoodstamps 3 жыл бұрын
To those that call healthcare a right I hope u understand that not all rights are free. In the US constitution we have the rights to bear arms and have an attorney but we dont get free guns and lawyers. A right is just something u can get or do without the government saying no but it doesn’t mean it’s free.
@branc2658
@branc2658 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. You have the right to buy a gun and kill someone, but not the one to save other people's lives.
@jaquillahillahfoodstamps
@jaquillahillahfoodstamps 2 жыл бұрын
branc u have the right to buy a gun for self defense. Killing someone isn’t a right. Either way healthcare costs money everywhere whether through taxes or insurance
@simunator
@simunator 6 жыл бұрын
Last time I checked Healthcare is as free as it could be in forms of vast land to exercise in and over the counter meds
@kosrules1884
@kosrules1884 2 жыл бұрын
Over the counter Mets is paid for by the government so it's still not free. It's free if they make it and don't charge you anything or the government anything
@jacobmaldonado4670
@jacobmaldonado4670 Жыл бұрын
It’s not I pay for your healthcare. It is, everyone pays for everyone’s healthcare. Two different perspectives
@peterc.1618
@peterc.1618 Жыл бұрын
Knowing that you, your children, or your elderly parents will be able to get treatment when they need it is very reassuring and may be one of the reasons that the countries considered to have the happiest population are those with a nationalised health care system. I recently read a YT comment by an American living in Switzerland (I think) who said that he was able to continue playing American football well into his 40s because of the 'free' health care; in the US the insurance premium would have been unaffordable. That's a consideration I'd never thought about.
@dented42
@dented42 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, your absolutely right. How dare a government try to keep it's population healthy! it's an outrage!!!
@joshuagould548
@joshuagould548 6 ай бұрын
How dare a gov't force people to pay for other people's services. It's like you didn't even watch the video. Gov't-run healthcare is about force. Forcing healthy people to pay for sick people. Force. I guess you're okay with slavery, since that's exactly what it is.
@xenobob2773
@xenobob2773 6 жыл бұрын
Lol...first words out of his mouth - no such thing as free. Love this guy!
@SeptimusTSS
@SeptimusTSS 4 жыл бұрын
Like there is a single person alive who was under the assumption it was going to be free. Really the intellectual arrogance is embarrassing
@AlbrtFranknstein
@AlbrtFranknstein 4 жыл бұрын
Adam D y’all to a lib and then you’ll understand
@russe19642
@russe19642 4 жыл бұрын
@@SeptimusTSS conservatives use the word free because dickheads like you think it is,but pay out of your taxes and before you say oh youve got higher taxes imagine calling what you pay in insurance a month as tax and youd be paying more plus you meds are being gouged and insurance companies look for loopholes to not cover you,but you dont care do you y'all got your guns and ya freedom right?
@pablomaquaire6251
@pablomaquaire6251 4 жыл бұрын
@@russe19642 ​I'm sorry socialist use the words free, conservatives use the words "there is no such thing as a free lunch". let's look at Bernie's plan "That is why we are going to make public colleges and universities tuition free" if that's not using the word free I don't know what is. I don't know if u actually read or study the field or just regurgitate what socialists are saying but look at the cost of health care accounted for inflation and you will see that prices start going up when the government starts intervening into the sector. How is it that the sector with the most gov intervention is the most expensive? Can you explain that? I presume it would not be a stretch to say you would want gov to control the food in our economy knowing that it is also important for the survival and is essential. But that being the case I would point you to the famine in ex USSR particularly in Ukraine, as an example of what not to do. Now that you know that health care cost have increased when goivernment started intervention into the sector compared to all other sectors where government has gotten out I hope u change your mind.
@russe19642
@russe19642 4 жыл бұрын
@@pablomaquaire6251 youre typical conservative regurgitating right wing talking points,always highlight russia or Venezuela when trying to articulate their arguments but never use Scandinavian countries which a social democrats because you know it destroys your argument.True nothing is for free just like private healthcare in the usa isnt either and once you calculate the cost on top of your already tax you pay youd be worst off under that system.In the usa the cost par head of population for healthcare is over$8000 per year compared to countries with universal at just over $3000 per year and no to your next argument about paying more taxes because here in australia you dont pay more than20% up to 40,000 and 27% up to 80,000 and at a sliding rate,so the first 40,000 is only taxed at 20%.The cost of paying for universal healthcare is a levy at 2% and if you earn under a certain amount which i cant recall off the top of my head you dont pay it but i think if you earn under 60,000 you dont pay,id have to check that.But here in australia as it would be in the usa the majority of people would fit into the 50,000 to 100,000 bracket at about 60% of the population and 30% below that who wouldnt pay and 10% over 100,000.Having universal healthcare here doesnt stop you from having private either,its not like its the only way here but private healthcare is so expensive and most people elect not to take it up.We haven't got free university system gere its a hecs based system similar to the usa,its a fairer system that unlike tge usa doesnt send people broke and only starts repayments when you start to earn at a certain level,so no i never said its free,you have to pay for it but once you wiegh up all the facts universal is far better system and whilst the one you champion leaves 30 unisured and another 60 million under insured,everyone is covered whether you're rich or poor unlike yours.Anyway im not here to convince you,because you'll never be convinced im just here to give you the facts to counter your bullshit conservative talking points and muddying the waters with baseless arguments about other countries with so called universal healthcare,every other country in the world has it apart from usa and you should start to question why instead if defending something indefensible
@puppetsock
@puppetsock 11 жыл бұрын
I would move *out* of Vermont to get away from the inevitable collapse.
@Cybeonix
@Cybeonix 12 жыл бұрын
Except the insurance companies are trying to take your money, not help you. So called "Free" health care doesn't put you one heart attack away from selling your house to pay for your bypass operation.
@Ernoskij
@Ernoskij 6 жыл бұрын
0:58 I would like to correct you here, it's not paid for with "other" peoples money, it's paid for with everyone's money, including your own. it's not everybody else paying without you paying anything, it's everybody paying, including yourself. 4:12 I would like you to back up this claim that we have very few choices who takes care of us. We can freely choose any doctor we want (assuming they have room to handle more patients of course), and we can freely choose which hospital we want to be treated on (unless of course they don't have a specific specialist that is needed) both problems that would be the same without universal healthcare. So I would like you to show the evidence for this particular claim that we have very few choices. I would also like to see some evidence for your earlier claim that 75% of all medical development comes from USA. Where did you get that number Ayn Rand Institute? you can't just pull a number out of thin air and think people will believe you, you have to cite your sources, give some proof of your claims.
@dave63864
@dave63864 3 жыл бұрын
I'll pay my taxes for it.
@benjiblas708
@benjiblas708 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly lol!! Why would I be against helping other people have access to healthcare that they can't afford otherwise? It's my money sure, but they're also people who I care about.
@lordBritish1
@lordBritish1 2 жыл бұрын
Why should I have to pay for something else to see a doctor is they need to see a doctor they should pay for it, not Me
@AtheistBelgium
@AtheistBelgium 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordBritish1 Why would you pay for the roads you drive on? Other people use roads you never use. Why would you pay for police interventions on someone else? Why would you pay for the army? Why would you pay for a fire department if your house may never go up in flames but others might? Need i go on? Your argument failed.
@rapidoperator
@rapidoperator Жыл бұрын
then do it yourself but you have no right to force others to do the same, if you were to it would be theft and extortion
@hectorviscenciobrambila3943
@hectorviscenciobrambila3943 2 жыл бұрын
It is not free health care, even if you don't pay directly for it. It has a cost and this cost may be paid by the government with tax contributions. Since taxes come from citizens, no-cost-to-you health care is not a present either. After all, you are paying for it through your and others tax contributions.
@burkanov
@burkanov 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, but it's much cheaper. Here in Germany they take about 600 Euro monthly from my salary. For that, my whole family of 5 people is fully covered, including dentists, any operations, anything. I can call emergency anytime I need. I stay in hospital as long as necessary. I don't pay for any prescribed pills. I get about 100% of my salary for the first 6 weeks of illness per year and 70% for the next 18 months, if needed. And my wife and kids have the same benefits. I don't think any US insurance could offer anything like that even for much greater sum..
@thomast3570
@thomast3570 Жыл бұрын
@E KL Everyone knows that. What's your point?
@thomast3570
@thomast3570 Жыл бұрын
@E KL I understand your point, I think strategically it is better to use the term accessible to all. In the US, "free" has a very shyster connotation.
@benstevinson764
@benstevinson764 3 жыл бұрын
HealthCare is a Human Right! Rich or Poor! 🌈
@KarimAlKharsa
@KarimAlKharsa 3 жыл бұрын
Water is a human right, is that subsidized by the government?
@perfectlyfine1675
@perfectlyfine1675 2 жыл бұрын
@@KarimAlKharsa a lot of countries do have their water supply nationalised. Therefore: yes.
@parkermudsen1063
@parkermudsen1063 2 жыл бұрын
Using his argument, why should any of us pay for police or fire departments? My house never gets caught on fire. My house is never broken into. I’ve never directly been the victimized a crime. Why should I have I have to pay for any of that year after year? It’s fitting that the ayn rand institute would make such an asinine argument. 😆
@ericguynga
@ericguynga 2 жыл бұрын
The correct question isn't "why should any of us pay for police or fire departments?" I would pay for those services voluntarily. The correct question is "why should you and others be allowed to point government guns at literally everyone and force them pay for those services through taxes?" I really wish people would realize that using force against peaceful people is immoral, it is evil...for any reason. If the market provided those services and we could voluntarily pay for them, there would be many more police and fire department services to choose from...which would increase quality of the services and decrease the costs. It would also decrease the costs by allowing me to pay for those services directly, instead of through a government bureaucracy.
@nathanlovik1753
@nathanlovik1753 Ай бұрын
Do the police protect when funded by government dollars? The answer is no! There used to be private police departments and private fire departments in the US
@fletchermedler6265
@fletchermedler6265 2 жыл бұрын
"You have to confiscate my money in order to give you health care that you don't pay for," right after literally saying that we all pay for it. Not a strong start.
@solsticemoon1220
@solsticemoon1220 2 жыл бұрын
True healing is free, when you understand it properly. Almost all people don't and that is where the real problem lies.
@user-ld6xt4kn6f
@user-ld6xt4kn6f 5 ай бұрын
Except it’s not “really” voluntary under the current system. If you “choose” not to get insurance, and something happens, you pay astronomical prices for care. That’s why 60% of bankruptcies are medical in nature. If I pay $10,000 per year for care now, and $10,000 per year under a single payer system, then what’s the difference? Well, besides the fact that in the single payer system, there are no surprises, your bill is easy to understand, you can walk into any doctors office for treatment, and you don’t go bankrupt because of an unexpected illness.
@JrgenSkou
@JrgenSkou 5 жыл бұрын
Here in Denmark there is broad consensus among politicians and the population that our healthcare system we do not want to get rid of, we are very happy with ongoing adjustments
@shanesorensen7878
@shanesorensen7878 5 жыл бұрын
Jørgen Skou my country is so ignorant about single prayer healthcare it’s a good thing. It’s no different than paying for the fire or police department. I am a danish American and it suck that we have to pay out of pocket. Why can’t Americans understand a group minded mentality is a good thing.
@JrgenSkou
@JrgenSkou 5 жыл бұрын
@@shanesorensen7878 Is it rune your picture Your image resembles a Viking jewelery
@shanesorensen7878
@shanesorensen7878 5 жыл бұрын
Yes because I am a religion called asatru/heathenism I don’t know if you have ever heard of this revival.
@JrgenSkou
@JrgenSkou 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I have, there is a lot here in Denmark who professes to Asatro natmus.dk/historisk-viden/danmark/oldtid-indtil-aar-1050/vikingetiden-800-1050/tro-og-magi-doed-og-ritual/hvad-er-asatro-i-dag/ da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asetro www.religion.dk/asatro Sorry it is unfortunately in Danish but can be translated with google translator
@pattybaselines
@pattybaselines 4 жыл бұрын
Lol enjoy paying more than half your income to the government and your inferior health tech...I'm truly jealous.
@m0nkeyf1ngers31
@m0nkeyf1ngers31 5 жыл бұрын
"confiscatory" nice way of saying taken at gunpoint.
@badasunicorn6870
@badasunicorn6870 5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! Taxes, labour, we need to cut out the state, and wage slavery imediatly! We must start a general strike, pass the message!
@Apjooz
@Apjooz 4 жыл бұрын
"Private property", nice way of saying taken at gunpoint.
@dominicdoherty7208
@dominicdoherty7208 3 жыл бұрын
Taxes exist, its best to use them to benefit the ones who pay them. Your money is better when working in one motion. You pay the government to keep you secure a d benefit from its systems
@Gromic2k
@Gromic2k 3 жыл бұрын
@@badasunicorn6870 it's called communism^^
@mmcnallyful
@mmcnallyful 10 жыл бұрын
Actually it doesn't. All the taxes go to the government and are divided out. There are no separate buckets that go to pay for Roads, Air Traffic Control, Airports, US Postal Service, Coast Guard, DMV, Civil Servants etc etc That's just how the sell it to you so its easier to swallow a new tax.
@Cookiecutter87
@Cookiecutter87 11 жыл бұрын
I do not think that when people say "there is no such thing as a free lunch", they don't mean that you don't pay cash. They mean that choosing to do a certain thing requires some effort or sacrifice. When you go fishing, you are getting a "free" lunch in the sense that it costs you no money. However, it does cost you time or effort. The expression means that getting something involves trading one resource or opportunity for another.
@eliothayhow20
@eliothayhow20 3 жыл бұрын
3:58 it doesnt eliminate innovation, the uk found the first covid vaccine and has the fastest vaccine roll out
@dansfilms7901
@dansfilms7901 3 жыл бұрын
Scientists found the vaccine, the NHS rolls it out and treats patients
@eliothayhow20
@eliothayhow20 3 жыл бұрын
@@dansfilms7901 yes uk scientists, the nhs doesnt stop scientific innovation
@dansfilms7901
@dansfilms7901 3 жыл бұрын
@@eliothayhow20 agreed, I agree with some which is said in this, and alit I disagree with
@eliothayhow20
@eliothayhow20 3 жыл бұрын
@@dansfilms7901 yh, it just shows you sadly always have to be careful with the right and the left as they both lie alot
@KarimAlKharsa
@KarimAlKharsa 3 жыл бұрын
Is as effective as Pfizer and moderna and j&j
@enlightenedterrestrial
@enlightenedterrestrial 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I live in Europe where all the countries have this "free" (universal) health care. No one here is saying stuff like "Hey, let's cut our taxes and make everyone pay for his own healthcare." Sometimes, not everyone can afford the treatment. That is why we, Europeans, are willing to make a little sacrifice for the greater good and invest into a state so that the healthcare is provided to all the classes, both rich and poor. It's like a charity. (Oh, and you still have private doctors where you can pay more and not wait in line.) I'm not a socialist. USSR's Socialism destroyed our economy in less than 40 years after WW2. All I'm saying is there are some good and valid points in social system that are worth implementing. The fact that US doesn't have healthcare like we do is mind-boggling...
@TeaParty1776
@TeaParty1776 4 жыл бұрын
And when health care providers are forced to obey your voting instead of their own minds, what will happen?
@TeaParty1776
@TeaParty1776 4 жыл бұрын
@Jamie Brennan Do you want your doctor to be guided by his knowledge of medicine or by voters ignorant of medicine?
@MarkvsMaximvs
@MarkvsMaximvs 4 жыл бұрын
TeaParty1776 ??? Voters do not dictate how a doctor goes about his or her practice. They have no bearing in anything that is in the domain of medical expertise; they simply have a say in the availability and quality of those services.
@TeaParty1776
@TeaParty1776 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarkvsMaximvs Medical expertise must have some availability and quality. Medical expertise that is not available and has no quality could not exist. You rationalize your evasion of your collectivist politics, the initiation of force against productive people. You want to stick a gun in the faces of doctors but tell yourself that you are not doing it. Hitler said that mass murder was “the final solution.” “Work makes free” was on a sign at the entrance to his death camps. Altruism, the claim that man has no moral right to his own life, is hidden by the superficiality of mere benevolence.
@nickblack7910
@nickblack7910 4 жыл бұрын
It's like a charity but people who dont want to donate are forced... you dont see anything wrong with that? Voluntary charities can do much better than forced ones...
@goha9218
@goha9218 2 жыл бұрын
People don't choose to get sick or be disabled there's something sinister about punishing them financially for this
@echochamber1234
@echochamber1234 Жыл бұрын
but the vast majority of those choose to take on risks and habits that cause them to get sick. even people on low income can afford decent food and housing and avoid cigarettes and drugs if they are responsible. all medical professionals know lifestyle is more predictive of life expectancy than any fancy medical care we could offer.
@LevRiv
@LevRiv Жыл бұрын
@@echochamber1234 hmm, okay. How about genetics?
@GeorgeMonkhouse
@GeorgeMonkhouse 9 жыл бұрын
In a scenario where the human race operates in a high state of optimisation as a species, with each individual human (synonymous with each individual cell in a body) fully supported, global free healthcare is mutually and wholly beneficial. Enhancing our relationship with the natural environment and patterning is too. Furthermore, there is no need for any common form of finance as a communal value system. Everyone has his or her own internal value system that can collectively regulate the economy with no need for finance in any form, in a balanced and ecological manner; allowing the natural, self-regulatory patterning of human nature to be expressed.
@IcemanJuice
@IcemanJuice 2 жыл бұрын
Sad America doesn’t have free healthcare like practically every country in Europe, yet we consider ourselves better than all of those nations yet we let people die because they can’t afford treatment or medicine
@Stig007
@Stig007 3 жыл бұрын
I like how whenever you get someone who is against universal healthcare they latch on to the term "free Healthcare " as if people are really dumb enough to think it cost nothing comon now. If I'm gonna send half my paycheck (exaggerating) to an entity for health care I rather it be to an entity that will be accepted everywhere someone that will not stress me out as bad as my potential injury when its time to pay/check-out. Someone that won't ruin my credit because my insurance was rejected or they don't cover certain procedures so not only am I left with a insurance premium that left me high and dry ,but also a hospital visit that I have to pay out of pocket. Not to mention the price I would be paying for the hospital visit is not the price the insurance would be paying for the hospital visit it's much higher because I don't have the clout to negotiate a lower price.
@sydvestjyden2095
@sydvestjyden2095 6 жыл бұрын
what is the Price for healt care pr capita in us compared to Denmark? Where is Money spent most efficient? Dk.
@ondrej1893
@ondrej1893 11 жыл бұрын
I mean...isn't the voluntary system of insurance the best for those rare cases, and isn't in my best interest to be protected even if those cases are rare? It's nice to have freedom, but it ends pretty soon if you are unable to pay for life saving brain benign tumour removal.
@cscer76
@cscer76 5 жыл бұрын
Severe sickness is never voluntary and receiving medical care is compulsory. Taxpayers already pay for the uninsured and always will.
@heesofi
@heesofi 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody in Europe calls it "Free Health care"... Nobody!! Everybody in Europe who has national governed health care knows that we pay this through taxes. Only US observers call it "Free". Simply because they are not told how it works - The level of uninformed opinions on this matter in the US is un- believeable.. It is also arrogant. The cost of running it is far below the US system. -And we are not falling behind in standards.. But all this you can find out by looking into this yourself instead of taking this guy for granted...
@9thCryptoMiner
@9thCryptoMiner 2 жыл бұрын
9 years old .. dudes brainwashed
@myyouaccounttube1024
@myyouaccounttube1024 2 ай бұрын
It's a discussion which is purley valid in an interview like this but absolutely nowhere else. All you need to do, is to look at the Europe. The quality of the healthcare in Europe (France, Norway, etc.) is a true privilege which has nothing to do with the "MISERY" of the healthcare in the US.
@ivanujk6331
@ivanujk6331 3 жыл бұрын
The moment we start looking on Health like a business, we are lost! Business is based on negotiations which benefits both sides. I wanna see this man sales skills and how convenient he will be with the doctors when striking a deal for treatment, if he got a cancer. Don’t bite this crap! Putting live on pedestal is whats making as humans!
@SoulMisha
@SoulMisha Жыл бұрын
Companies will compete with each other at the prices will be lower. It does not be benefit a business to have poor reputation
@joserosales4109
@joserosales4109 3 жыл бұрын
I was trying to prove a point to my friend. Ended up with the conclusion no matter what system we're screwed
@o6279
@o6279 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree “free healthcare” is better and would be cheaper all the government would do is pay the bill to the private hospitals and instead of paying insurance companies you would just pay taxes and hopefully less then what the insurance company was Getting
@AmazingStoryDewd
@AmazingStoryDewd 2 жыл бұрын
not really
@juehju
@juehju Жыл бұрын
Capitalism Screws.
@vsolheia6
@vsolheia6 6 жыл бұрын
It is just plain stupid to compare health care to food. I need food every day, and I need approximately the same amount of food as everyone else.
@saritchandaria6296
@saritchandaria6296 3 жыл бұрын
That was taxes do. If you believe this cut all taxes and cancel government, including all benefits. Pave your own roads, pay your own school fees, pay for the police every time you call them
@Festano676
@Festano676 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, is he actually being serious?
@kichigaisensei
@kichigaisensei 6 жыл бұрын
Common sense overload.
@tevzcrnic4456
@tevzcrnic4456 3 жыл бұрын
*ignorance
@detroitandclevelandfan5503
@detroitandclevelandfan5503 4 ай бұрын
I have had six open heart surgeries. I have met many people around the world during my time in the hospital. My parents and I have asked all of them the same thing. Why are you here, and not back in your country receiving free care? They would give the same answer. It's horrible healthcare compared to the U.S.. Also, every new surgery invented is invented here because of our healthcare. With free healthcare, you only get what the government sees fit. Instead of them spending money trying to come up with better methods of treating patients. As an example. I myself, back in 2010, had a heart Cath procedure done. It was a new type of surgery, though. The typical surgery would be checking the condition of the patient's heart valves. This new surgery was a way to replace a heart valve with a new one, using the Cath procedure. It would save the person, from having an open heart surgery. I was the second person to ever have it done, and it saved me an open heart surgery. The doctor, who I forgot that man's name but he was from Germany, and I could look up his name, when I have the time. Had to come here to the States to invent the surgery since over in Europe, the government, with the "free healthcare" decides how it should be spent. Plus, what of the horror stories of "free healthcare"? Take, the recent story, of Indi Gregory. The government controls their free healthcare, and decided her treatment, although could be cured, was cut from treatment since the British government felt she had enough treatment. They ended up killing her. Wouldn't have happened in the U.S. Plus, actually, look at the real statistics of Europe and the U.S. More people die in European hospitals than the United States, patients have the same problem, and the survival rate is better in the U.S.
@Actuary1776
@Actuary1776 5 жыл бұрын
Compulsory vs non compulsory argument makes sense when the market truly is non compulsory. Hospitals and doctors are providing services to individuals without insurance, in many cases legally obligated to.
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