Azami vs Kroxa vs Marwyn vs Esika | CEDH Gameplay

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[@andyclaude6227]

Good game! It’s always nice to see a variety of commanders played on this channel

[@abrahamdrinkin2534]

Shout out Mind Sculptors who turned me onto Lavinia. One time it got played in our meta and we saw the power she has. One of the most underrated stax pieces out there

[@aninnocentbystander119]

I played against a guy who had her in a Sisay deck. Can tutor her up at instant speed. Absolutely brutal.

[@bluesilence88]

seeing the lifepoints drop during the ad naus was neat

[@PepsiColaGuy]

Shout out to Mike for sporting the Azami I signed for him

[@Benstra93]

Aww, to bad we didn't get to see Codie in action. Been trying a budget version of him for a while now, really fun.

[@dantemalick2872]

Could always do the maze end codie Amulet of vigor only permenant mulligan to get it on t4 cast codie t4 cast a dragons approach codie pulls tibalt 100% of the time Witch unless u mill reshape the earth wins instantly Run 20-30 dragons approach Tibalts trickery Reshape the earth

[@justinullman6253]

He kept a bad starting hand. Need to mull to a turn 1-2 Codie

[@wanderingaming5805]

Love seeing Azami, she was my first high powered deck that made me want to play cEDH

[@jaredsmith6565]

Love it! That Azami deck looks sick. Hope to see Esika storm again :)

[@paulmcclain642]

It may have been short, but I really enjoyed game 1 a lot. T2 Ad Naus is always exciting and can punish keeps with too little interaction. Loved it!

[@sokas3000]

It's so weird that people are using THESE two games to complain about Thassa's Oracle. Both players already had their win, what difference does it make to have everyone mill their libraries through brain freeze vs a thassa trigger? What difference is it when the Azami player has infinite mana and literally their entire deck? At that point they could do almost anything, Thassa is just the fastest way to say "I win," there. Ridiculous.

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

It’s not specifically these games. I just hate Thoracle.

[@dantemalick2872]

Agreed I mean the infinite draw/ mana could have been a blue sun zenith same result

[@LemorasCards]

Think that turn one wheel was the play game 1 especially after that dt. Playing the voidwalker first seemed a bit greedy.

[@OnyxANZ]

I was really hoping to see more of that Kroxa deck. I love Kroxa.

[@Xileph410]

That game one was spicy!

[@lonoris74]

cal's play mat is obviously the best one

[@StackedEDH]

Two nice games. Thanks, y'all!

[@Lazergician]

Would love to see that Esika deck some more

[@wesleymclain9146]

Welcome back to the most valuable card portion of these videos.

[@jannamcjanna6802]

Love seeing Marwyn, elves was my first deck I ever played.

[@uriahatkinson2103]

Great wins both fish wins ..great games ..see u on next one

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Thank you 👍

[@uriahatkinson2103]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG you're welcome

[@RetroPokemonDepot]

Fun games today!

[@flameberga]

worst card in both games is probably forbidden orchard. I also would love to hear the reason giving tymna player with 3 mana ready to cast tymna a 1/1 spirit.

[@johnbarrie447]

Yeah, I still see orchard all the time, and it’s not terrible, but I wonder if we’ve reached a critical mass of other lands to not need to entertain its drawback.

[@flameberga]

@@johnbarrie447 it's not that bad, I can see the merit of having another 5c land in najeela deck, but I'll probably not include it in midrange decks, especially which want to hit people for effects. I'm more concerned about the reasoning giving tymna player free 1/1 on empty board. Maybe it outweighs the possibility of codie saccing it for a ritual? who knows

[@ODSTWILL7675]

Wooo azami

[@DarkEinherjar]

At least no one went for the easy Thoracle win with Consultation/Pact... I respect that.

[@commandcovemtg]

Here. We. Go.

[@juliuscoolius6924]

oMg AnOtHeR tHaSsA oRaClE wIn. But In all seriousness, you’re recent vids have been some of my favorites. Keep up the vids!

[@HandsomeJules]

That was more like being able to cast as Nauseum and no one having an answer, and hitting all the necessary cards to storm off and have the ability to have chain of vapor to remove the dauthi, and having just enough opponents enchantments and artifacts in play to have dockside give just enough treasures to play underworld breach , and being able to cast enough spells during the turn to mill yourself with brain freeze, and hit the LED to grave. Don’t undermine the gameplay of a good player and (and a little bit of luck) to make it seem like a brainless Thassa’s Oracle Win. I know many people who would mess up their lines in that situation, some just don’t want to admit it.

[@seanallwang3290]

As a cedh Marwyn player, I do not approve of Cal's Deck list but would love to see his lines of Cloudstone play. 24 land creature storm is the way to go. Win with aetherflux, triumph of the hordes, Ezuri, layline of abundance, Joraga warcaller, concordant crossroads, craterhoof or Cloudstone Curio.

[@razorskatermax35]

Fuck yea you guys kick ass and rock

[@nealcrabtree3647]

Azami is my favorite 😍

[@Lasor4]

Kroxa gang gang rise up!!!!!!!!!!

[@AidanWR]

Still haven't been able to see Codie in action :(

[@aquablue3dsi]

Question. Doesnt Lavina stuff Azami being cast? Mike only had three island thus cmc 3 could be cast for him. Idk i could be wrong Edit: "NonCreature" man reading the cards do infact explain the cards. Duhh

[@it_is_ni]

You almost never see someone stopping a Thassa's Oracle with a "target player draws a card" effect, right? Why is that?

[@DarkEinherjar]

Probably because many of those effects are sorcery speed (and thus can't be used to stop Thoracle) and/or aren't worth the deck slots.

[@MexiPerplexi]

Yeah, it's tricky to pull that off. My favorite thing to do is hitting the Consultation with Mental Misstep and watching them cry.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

There aren’t too many effects that do it at instant speed that are also good in other instances outside of a thoracle win.

[@dantemalick2872]

If you see thassa alot ita easy to add those cards but most of them are you draw a card or sorcery

[@joshuanolet8679]

I have been thinking of joining your patreon for your webcam league. Do you have a cedh beginner (not beginner to magic) friendly tier or division? I am new to cedh but not new to magic.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Unfortunately not. We are very accommodating to new players though!

[@michaelrichards5253]

Ooooo Azami.

[@GuyrillaBraun]

Wish I could've seen my namesake hit the board at least =(

[@alexh4243]

Green decks need t be using storm seeker as a way to kill people trying to win with thassas oracle. Instant that deals 1damage per opponents cards in hand

[@achillefraisse4335]

Sadly once you draw your entire deck you almost always have some "free" countrespell to protect yourself

[@Trireaper]

!steptri Anyways, great games guys!

[@rodrigoquiroz]

Wow! Seems like they finally broke Thassa's Oracles.

[@sonnymercer5241]

Great games

[@prn_Melatonin]

I have an azami deck, was mind over matter not considered?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

It’s not needed in its current build

[@tylercraig5633]

So happy to see my Waifu win a cEDH game

[@galerbo]

Where do we get the card sleeves?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

They are coming out in February.

[@jordanlawlor89]

Was Cal able to cast Marwyn with Lavinia out and only two lands? Looks like he tapped two lands and a BoP.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Lavinia only hits noncreature spells

[@PenguinSnipezGaming]

No lie. I just got done with a cEDH tournament where I rolled in with Azami. Then Playing with Power shows an azami deck.... and... MY NAME IS COLE. Im trippin out man wtf

[@jor-elmasterofscheduling2002]

👍

[@enjaded7222]

idk if it mattered, but did the azami player have access to colored mana in their isochron combo?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Mox Opal

[@enjaded7222]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG thank u very much. I missed it

[@ShadowBlade-bv1cm]

Good games

[@Adam_Voxx]

does anyone know where ryan gets his playmats? they look pretty awesome

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

That’s a secret that will die with him.

[@Adam_Voxx]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG I respect it

[@jimbones5621]

Wow a board wipe in a cedh game? Never seen that before lol.

[@moonanite2425]

How does the prosper’s doomsday list work?

[@SamuelKacerik]

Copied from primer: You can turbo Doomsday out with Final Fortune or other ways to draw. The non-turbo pile requires us to have Prosper on board, but he acts as a way to crack the pile: Step 1: Have Prosper, Tome-Bound on Board, and access to BBBRR Step 2: Cast Doomsday. Stack the pile as such: Final Fortune>Jeska's Will>Twinflame>Dualcaster Mage>Lion's Eye Diamond (Or whatever flavor card you want)) Step 3: Go to end of turn. Prosper triggers, exiling Final Fortune. Cast Final Fortune in the End step, generating a treasure. Step 4: Begin your next turn, drawing Jeska's Will. Cast it, exiling the rest of your pile and possibly generating mana. Step 5: Cast and crack LED for mana. Step 6: Cast Twinflame, targeting Prosper. Holding priority, cast Dualcaster Mage. It enters the battlefield targeting Twinflame. It creates a copy. Step 7: The copy of Twinflame targets Dualcaster Mage. A copy of Dualcaster Mage enters the battlefield, targeting Twinflame. It creates a copy. The copy of Twinflame targets Dualcaster Mage. A copy of Dualcaster Mage enters the battlefield, targeting Twinflame. It creates a copy. The copy of Twinflame targets Dualcaster Mage. A copy of.. Step XYZ : Swing with an obscene amount of hasty Dualcaster Mages to end your opponents.

[@didupaytheone2678]

First game was great ..did someone order some fish? It's hard to kill when on board..nice win

[@RoastedPheasant]

It would have been nice to hear some of the things Lavinia was stopping. People need examples.

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

I cannot overstate how much I loath Thassa’s Oracle

[@jmcomparan]

If thassa’s oracle was banned, the results of these games wouldn’t have been any different. It just makes the wins less messy with calculations. I’ll admit it +consultation is too much tbh, but we didn’t see that here.

[@jss7827]

Am i the only one who thinks that a commander play min 1 hour. And here is like 1 min

[@bundung123]

i miss paradox engine in azami ;-;

[@thenotoriouspie]

Is Thassa's Oracle all CEDH is anymore?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Yes

[@sambojinbojin-sam6550]

Thassa's..... Urrggghhh. Such a meta you folks have

[@luisdayvid]

Back to back Thassa wins. Yay.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

So glad you’re happy they have returned! We will keep putting out more!

[@didupaytheone2678]

2ND games I'm getting tired of eating only fish lol..guess I'll have one more for the road ..two fish wins in a row ..

[@adamhelgeson9329]

I love watching CEDH and playing it. Then I see a ThOracle and wonder if we’re meant to still suffer

[@dantemalick2872]

Tbf at that point he has his entire deck in hand and infinite mana if you cant win at that point I dont know what to tell you it could have been blue sun or cast 60 spells and brain freeze but it would have just drawn the game out longer for no reason

[@GABETUBE1]

Thassa's Oracle should be banned

[@FreddieFevens]

I really think that cEDH is way to reliant on thassa’s oracle for winning. The constant threat that UUB could win the game just makes the format stale *IN MY OPINION*.

[@laicuan1]

There's alot of decks that don't use Oracle, but what people don't understand is CEDH is about winning, not playing a long strung out game for funsies. And oracle/demonic con/tainted pact is super efficient and perfect for it.

[@FreddieFevens]

@@laicuan1 your point is not supported by other bans. Think about the issue that was flash. People agreed that the prevalence of it made other strategies not viable. This is echoed in thassas oracle in my opinion. The problem isn’t “fast kills” its the fact that its always run in decks that have black and blue.

[@laicuan1]

@@FreddieFevens you said cedh was "way too reliant" on oracle when in reality in a true cedh game oracle is at its weakest (cedh tends to run more counter magic) the problem with it are the people who slam it into any u/b deck and bring it to non-cedh games. Just look at game one in this video, dude didn't need to oracle to win, he could have just used brain freeze on everyone else and mill their whole decks, and in game 2 the azami player didn't need oracle, all he had to do was drop a lab man or a jace to win.

[@FreddieFevens]

1. Milling out other people is less safe than milling yourself out. A shuffle titan or other relevant effect could cause issues. 2. If you use lab man or jace, it leaves you more vulnerable to instant speed removal and requires you to draw meaning that thassas oracle is better. 3. I don’t get your argument in saying they had other ways to win. They chose thassas oracle which meant it was their best choice making it even MORE ubiquitous. Another point being that if everyone runs out of interaction, a player in a privileged position can just take the win undeservingly. *IN MY OPINION* thats lame.

[@laicuan1]

@@FreddieFevens I was pointing out that just because oracle is an option doesn't mean the other ways to win aren't viable. Oracle is just more efficient. And as shown in this video twice they won "the hard way" with oracle, not using demonic consultation or tainted pact. Just because it's good doesn't mean it's ban worthy. Just gotta have that rule 0 talk at the start. The store I play at has banned oracle and as a result I switched my kess oracle deck to an Inalla wizard chess deck with a 20+ step combo to win that only needs 4 mana and a Spellseeker to win and makes the games way less fun because u gotta watch me tutor 7+ times and reanimate 5+ times and waste 15 mins.

[@winnipegceltic]

Third

[@majormartintibor]

I've seen Thassa's Oracle wins ad nauseum.

[@KeitaroHirochi]

I can't wait until that damn card Thassa's Oracle gets banned...

[@chaoswarhound]

I'm so bloody sick of it

[@themadstudent]

Double Fish wins... yay...

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

So glad you liked them

[@uriahatkinson2103]

Fishy fishy nice win ..can u win again u won't lol

[@mistercastillo6517]

fish

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

Thumbs down for mispronouncing February.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Thumbs down for pointing it out

[@Bammab127]

Wish I could double thumbs down for double thoracle

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Here let me give you this thumbs down to work with