Tymna/Kamahl vs Tevesh/Thrasios vs Malcolm/Tana vs Godo | CEDH Gameplay

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

dang Cal kinda sucks at this tbh

[@ModAnonMTG]

why is this comment not pinned

[@ElderDrunkenHighlander]

I feel kinda bad for my deck tbh…

[@zut8448]

This was a really cool episode, loads of cards and pairings I haven’t seen much! Yasharn was massive here, but I also liked seeing Malcolm and Kamalh get some love! One of the best episodes in recent memory imo

[@robertbauerle5592]

I think the most valuable card was definitely tymna. He drew so many cards off of that thing and no one killed it. The best commander in the format somehow always flies under the radar

[@paulmcclain642]

My boy Yasharn has his day! I’ve been a dedicated (and highly under skilled) Yasharn player since he was previewed. But playing him as a secret commander in Tymna/Kamahl might be the best way to cover up his 2 greatest weaknesses-card draw and finishing the game

[@ciaosonoAlbertoG]

Cal could've lived if he only decided to phase out yasharn instead of going for FOW

[@velocevisrin5060]

Or go for pact of negation

[@bradenskaggs5350]

Gus*

[@briantjokroadiguno4566]

he wants to get 2 extra turns, should've went for pact and get 2 extra turns

[@Xplayer007]

Most un-valuable card goes to gamble for discarding glint horn buccaneer. Poor Cal :(

[@jeef16]

getting glint into the grave isn't that bad for temur pirates, you have ewit/noxious revival, and a variety of lines to access finale of devastation too

[@Ash-dp9wo]

I kNoW tHaT pFp!

[@DUxMORTEM]

Gamble is just Reds version of Entomb.

[@Shenbeiner]

A blast seeing y’all this weekend!!!

[@superskaldy]

I love how creature decks are good nowadays

[@twray6897]

It was awesome meeting you guys in vegas, can't wait to see some of the vegas games on here.

[@mudspire]

Shoutout to Cal's nails they looked great. Awesome game excited for the next upload. Have a nice day.

[@AllOutPsycho]

Loved Cal's all old boarded cards!

[@dendecko2246]

Loved that thrasios Tevesh build. really got me excited about its potential.

[@AuthenticLucidHope]

So many things happened this game, lots of back and forth, and love to see Yarnball do great things!

[@fluffylegend294]

As a player of Tymna/Kamahl I can’t wait to see others play it. Let’s gooo!

[@razorskatermax35]

I get so excited when I see you guys upload fuck yeah

[@didiez8678]

I'm always trying to guess what's the most valuable card of the game before you say it and and this one was by far the easiest ! Great job as always, it's a blast to watch your videos, keep going !! Bon boulot continues comme ça !

[@jeef16]

I play a lot of temur malcolm (its my only edh deck, so I should say exclusively tbh) and this video very clearly highlights some of the critical issues with the deck. I love cal and I love the temur pirate discord just to be clear. It's not that the deck can't be fast or doesn't function well, but you're telegraphing your gameplan and win-clock very very clearly to the rest of the table through green/blue tutors. Everyone at the table will know you're going for the win and you don't have much to protect yourself outside of a few counterspells, which I hope you have in hand. I've gotten my fair share of t2/t3 wins with the deck, but I've also had games like this where you get shut down in a mix of 1) malcolm is theoretically as scary as tymna to some players or scarier because it combos directly with glinthorn and 2 mana. Since the deck relies on malcolm, your opponents are incentivized to play boardwipes or targeted removal a lot more often. I find that a s2p on a t2 malcolm makes the glinthorn line very inaccessible unless you open the nuts will all the mana rocks. 2) glinthorn combo is good but the 2 mana and needing to turn it sideways allows for periods of interaction where cards like snap/back, chain of vapor, s2p, ass trophy, etc will basically end your turn, so it's really hard to not come off as the scariest player on the table even when your cards themselves aren't that scary. I think temur malcolm is a solid tier 2 deck, but I'm going to be switching to grixis because swapping green for black fixes most of the problems I laid out with the deck - your opponents don't know what you're tutoring for, you have access to thoracle lines which is great because your opponents now need to predict that you're doing rather than knowing what you're doing, and niv+curiosity is such a slow combo that you're essentially reduced to malcolm+glint or dualcaster twinflame combo if you want an early win. Having 3 low cost a+b combos, access to adnaus/pee into the sink, limited information tutors in grixis makes up for mana dorks and sylvan library that you get with temur. Also, tana sucks so much ass, vial smasher is at least a bit better for utility since you can actually grind people down with him instead of waiting to draw neoform/eldritch for tana

[@rellyrue18]

That was alot lol.....but I agree with most of what you said. Letting your opponents know what you are doing is NOT what you wanna do, anytime you can avoid it.....obv. I think you are on to something switching to grixis, let us know how it goes.

[@ilanhaas582]

thanks for the thoughtful analysis!

[@ryanhunsaker6963]

Intuition for glint horn, unearth and reanimate😎

[@P3RDT0]

Lady Dimitrescu is now enraged not just because Ryan lost, but because she didn't get the invite to Olivia's wedding.

[@WushuTaz]

Great game. If I may ask, where does Cal get those proxies?

[@thesolringer3377]

Mystical tutor shoul have searched for an 8 CMC in response to the counterbalance trigger, thus countering kamahl

[@NMS127]

That would have been amazing, but his highest cost card is 7. And not many MV 8 spells are worth playing in cEDH. Maybe Dig Through Time or Treasure Cruise.

[@heeshka]

Inb4 video could be finished by anyone on normal speed

[@thejakeshow3811]

not surprised the guy with serra ascendant won

[@demonhouser5656]

You guys should have someone build the Stickfingers/Triskelion/Mikaeus deck. Would love to see how it stacks up at a high power table

[@DymonLord]

12:40 - Doesn't Yasharn stop Tymna activation from being possible? or is that because it's a triggered ability not activated?

[@JLee1337x]

I believe Tymna is a triggered ability. Yasharn only stops activated abilities and casting of spells

[@masteringdruid]

You are correct

[@Ash-dp9wo]

Cals got nice nails :swaghappy:

[@alexdouglas4413]

Ryan were did u get that sick playmat

[@thesp1r1tdragon55]

I love to see Tymna Kamahl! Also counterbalance success at 0% is just a sad sight

[@adfinder5791]

glad to see the new negative lifetotals

[@014TheValentino]

Nice episode

[@jakelennick5652]

Why did the magnetic theft fizzle? Skull clamp was on the field

[@bobsmurf42]

Magnetic Theft targets an equipment when it's cast. If that equipment isn't a valid target when it tries to resolve, it won't resolve.

[@rangodash]

Wait, why would gus plus 1 tevesh and sac a thrull instead of plus 2ing him and clamping a thrull?

[@marioquezada4036]

On 5:24 we see Cal has 2 tapped lands from his dockside, 1 untapped land and 6 treasure. I believe he had the win, correct me if I'm wrong. Cast Malcolm for 3 instead of 4 as we see him using 3 treasure and tapping a land. In this case he would have 3 treasure still and the land he tapped should be untapped, then cast glinthorn. Go to combat, hit Ryan and create a treasure. Before combat ends he would have had the treasure from hitting Ryan and the untapped land, with 2 mana activate glinthorn and win? I feel this was a misplay that lost Cal the game, plz correct me if I'm wrong.

[@TokuHer0]

Cal only had 5 treasures, not 6. 5:22 the gameplay narration states Gus sac'd Jeweled Lotus in response to Dockside's ETB being on the stack, reducing the treasures made from 6 to 5 (Mox Dia, Mana Vault, Skull Clamp, Remora, Mana Crypt).

[@marioquezada4036]

@@TokuHer0 thanks! My bad :/

[@necro9076]

@@marioquezada4036 @TokuHer0 3 Lands, 2 Lands paying for Dockside = 1 Land left. 5 tresures from Dockside plus that 1 Land equals 6 mana for Malcolm & Glint Horn, which is enough to win the game. Mario is right that he could've won and also had Fierce backup.

[@thedoctor1471]

Absolutely late to the party but ... at 5.40, why did Cal not decide to go for it ? He has three treasures left, so he could cast Glinthorn , who has haste, and attack Ryan, who has only coloress mana so most definitely no answer. That's the endgame move immediately, and we can see right after that he even has fierce guardianship if anyone had an answer. What happened there ?

[@ChristianKleineidam]

Glinthorn needs two mana to be activated. While Glinthorn itself has haste and can create one treasure by attacking, Malcolm had summon sickness.

[@oscarperezcame]

I think Yasharn is very understimated... there's a lot of sac and life-paying... but you don't see the big boar too often

[@tomneilson9501]

I think the stupid pig shouldve stopped alexs own tymna, but its still strong

[@pennywise-ug7sv]

I'm trying to make my first cedh level deck with yeva as the commander but it seems no matter how much I tune the deck I can't seem to pull a win before turn 5 and even that is only semi consistent. I'm wondering if thats good enoph for cedh and if not how to improve it. If anyone can help

[@ggpt9641]

In this game: Mana Drain! For how much? Tune in!

[@vexxbane6172]

Good game! Really enjoy your channel. Where did ryan get that playmat? Looks awesome and I want one.

[@veyron9255]

Do an episode with Jund DDay list

[@georgesel-hage4545]

abrade should at least get an honorable mention in this haha

[@jaydub5515]

Kamahl FTW!

[@masteringdruid]

Minute 5:21 the guy still creates 6 treasure tokens instead of 5 as narrated

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

5:28

[@AleryZz]

Nice

[@alexrodriguez-jf9rp]

Abzan ftw

[@hunterbrooks3582]

GODO GANG

[@orsettomorbido]

Counterbalance success 0% Ouch

[@FrozenSpector]

Crack some Eggs vs Eggs 🥚

[@Ash-dp9wo]

r/egg_irl?

[@justapersonontheinternet]

Them nails, beutiful

[@forgottenartificer]

Loved the video as always Did not love not being able to see Gus's graveyard.CEDH is so much about information and making descions based on that, as a veiwer, not being able too see some of Gus's decisions took away from my experience

[@zafarmoosajee]

they forgot to give Cal a 3/3 after the Toxic Deluge from the skyclave

[@carrotflame7859]

Malcolm was exiled but put into the command zone instead. I think the skyclave doesn't remember what was exiled if the card is in a different zone when it leaves the battlefield

[@zafarmoosajee]

@@carrotflame7859 pretty sure that is not how it works, as the text on skyclave just notes that the owner of the exiled card gets the illusion, and that this happens when Skyclave itself leaves the battlefield

[@NMS127]

@@zafarmoosajee If the card has left the exile zone, there is no exiled card.

[@zafarmoosajee]

@@NMS127 yes but the card skyclave does not check or care if the exile card exists in the zone it was sent to. The delayed trigger only cares about who the og target of the ability was and if skyclave left the battlefield

[@NMS127]

​@@zafarmoosajee The oracle rulings include this: If there’s no exiled card when Skyclave Apparition leaves the battlefield (most likely because its first ability hasn’t resolved yet), no player creates a token. (2020-09-25) You may be thinking of rules about last known information. In this case, the Apparition is no longer on the battlefield when it's second ability resolves, so the rules allow the ability to use the information about the Apparition as it last existed on the battlefield, including what card was exiled by its first ability. But if no card was exiled just before the Apparition left the battlefield, there's no exiled card for the trigger to use. (Also, the second triggered ability is not a delayed trigger because it's a separate ability, not part of the first one. But this doesn't matter because delayed triggered abilities *don't* use last known information from the effect that created them.) 608.2h. If an effect requires information from the game (such as the number of creatures on the battlefield), the answer is determined only once, when the effect is applied. If the effect requires information from a specific object, including the source of the ability itself, the effect uses the current information of that object if it's in the public zone it was expected to be in; if it's no longer in that zone, or if the effect has moved it from a public zone to a hidden zone, the effect uses the object's last known information. See rule 113.7a. If an ability states that an object does something, it's the object as it exists--or as it most recently existed--that does it, not the ability.

[@martinksk88]

Why so many dudes who play commander paint their nails?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Not enough

[@dimitriosdoulgeris4659]

What exact answer is here expected? Maybe it's because people like to paint their nails for no special reason.

[@gutsbadguy50]

So they look cooler on webcam

[@jensenchase7774]

Self expression I would imagine

[@weasley313]

am i the only one whos bored of godo at this point?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Haven’t shown Godo in months. How are you bored of him?

[@Basskin]

Who is this Gus guy bringing a casual deck to a cEDH game. Poor show.

[@rausassetan6816]

I agree. I'm confused why this was allowed. Very strange.

[@Mightypoo007]

lol, your comment feels like trolling

[@Basskin]

@@Mightypoo007 What makes you say that? Look at the decklist, random non-viable cards added into the mix.

[@oneforallmtg1293]

@@Basskin his decklist is similar to tvesh/thras found on cedh database but I do agree he has a few odd cards in the list

[@rausassetan6816]

@@oneforallmtg1293 surely should just use the Database list then for it to be viable though?

[@nicolango24]

painted nails look like crap, stop following trends.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

no

[@ModAnonMTG]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Yeah Cal, time to stop following trends and start following what this random person on youtube tells you to do