Best Warlock Super? (Damage Testing) | Destiny 2 Revenant Act 2

[@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX]

Ah, yes, Cross’ favorite class.

[@4th-horseman]

Wait… You meant Shaw Han right?

[@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX]

⁠@@4th-horseman nah. Shaw is a Hunter and he would never leave his spot in the Cosmodrome. This guy must be his cousin or something.

[@ianmills6260]

He is a fake titan main. Disgraceful

[@OnlySetup]

Honestly thought he forgot about Us

[@killerisawsome2918]

WARLOCK MASTER RACE LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO😂😂😂

[@abdoi3115]

My man Shaw never dissapoints, now back to the cosmodrome.

[@DrGoofenshmirtz]

Cross did this one late to try to convince us he's not a warlock main

[@vanteltdeis5388]

He left the best as last

[@jacobpelegrin3314]

As a warlock main watching Cross test inconsistently and improperly physically hurts my soul.

[@Alex-ug9wx]

Same. Him not using SB to its full potential pained me.

[@natcoo8153]

You mean how he should use the ice turret to freeze him then hold shatter down and let the super last 2x longer cuz shatter action doesn't consume any

[@whixy8589]

@@Alex-ug9wx whats SB?

[@Alex-ug9wx]

@ Stormdancer’s Brace. Aside from the inconsistencies in ability use, the fact he only got full stacks of SB’s damage buff HALFWAY through the super was painful…

[@erikburgundy1769]

It’s like, “whoa this does 1.9 million, that’s amazing!” (Takes a full 30 seconds). “This does 900,000, this is garbage!” (Takes seven seconds) It’s like he doesn’t understand the basic fundamentals of division.

[@lucienmoolman8017]

Winter's wrath was king of the world... just for a couple of hours but nonetheless it was king.

[@SlatenJ2]

I was using it when it got disabled

[@dankerbell]

i still have ptsd from beyond light pvp launch whenever i hear the activation sound, especially cause it's so cool

[@FrostReach66]

“Super damage testing” and then we’re adding every ability under the sun😂 I don’t blame those betters for getting angry

[@kcisthe1st]

Yeah it's supposed to be just the super not damage rotation. It's not that helpful because bosses move you might need your apotheosis nades to make turrets or something else

[@jubal1131]

Biggest scam of my life.

[@Bastion0418]

Lmao I mean without all that it would’ve been dawn chorus daybreak and a very short and very terrible number chart of raw dmg 😂 I almost feel bad for warlocks. Y’all had a chance to abuse a high dmg super and they instead disabled the exotic cuz it was 2 tapping Greg. 🤣

[@Bastion0418]

@@jubal1131I feel for your eggplants my guy lol. But now you know to get an apotheosis star eater class item if you don’t already have one 😂

[@Adam-tu1qx]

It'd be cool if he tested supers at base, then with all the jazz. But he literally tested 2 supers at base.

[@priest33]

Been waiting on this one all week

[@blockedbytaquaevion1260]

same bro

[@OnlySetup]

Bro

[@PixelleHearts]

A good boss for Stormdancers is the Scorn Battleground. It spawns so many adds that you pretty much have your super up in 10seconds after you use your super and get max stacks easily.

[@VioletHops]

Winter's wrath's exotic being disabled during the test is kinda funny. But it's was so broken

[@jamesbarton4424]

the best part is that a lot of warlock mains were complaining that titans didn't get anything disabled

[@FlashesSoccer011]

​@@jamesbarton4424 they just need their super damagebtesu ed drastically. They are like 4 times stronger than everyone else.

[@quavoking]

​@jamesbarton4424 It's not just Warlock mains, many in the community in general have stated Titans are literally head over more power than the other classes. Has nothing to do with "disabled" exotics.

[@jamesbarton4424]

@@quavoking the only titan super that comes close to what the warlocks are putting out is Glacial Quake outside of the bugged Sentinel Shield. While I do agree that titans can be stronger, I think it's also harder to play since both hunters and warlocks have a lot easier access to heals, weapon damage buffs, and easy escapes

[@felwinterpeak1674]

Hopefully, Warlocks will get their "tornado" super soon. Shoot our stormtrance in the sky and create a roaming storm cloud

[@KatAscended]

Just remember song of flame was doing over a mil by itself nearly 2 mill before ignitions got "bugged out" according to bungie

[@Newby1]

Yeah no one is talking about this.

[@dooms0910]

holy shit i just noticed... fr?

[@onyourleft3946]

That’s because star eaters use to buff the ignition damage, doesn’t anymore

[@dankerbell]

cause of star-eaters, the ignition bug was a bug and i despise all these people pretending like bungie is always out to get them no matter what, if bungie wants to nerf something we should all be aware by now they literally do not care and will just do it, like with lament, they could've stealth nerfed it or said it was bugged, but no, they unironically looked us in the eye and said this exotic sword which does less damage than legendary swords is doing too much damage and then also nerfed the healing

[@naturreal1705]

@20:38 Thank you! Been saying it for years. Song of flame is the only thing we've gotten as of recent worth rocking.

[@iponce2]

the bet was def unfair, but look at it this way: stormtrance requires two exotics and prismatic to break a mil. daybreak just needed 1 exotic and some basic subclass synergy. stormtrance is still doodoo. personally, I think supers should always be strong against bosses. graviton lance clears adds better than some supers do, so add clear isn't a good argument for a super being booty against a thicc baddie yellowbar.

[@boombox1490]

Blud said he won't do helion for daybreak with dawn chorus but he does it for supers on prismatic and daybreak with apotheosis

[@kcisthe1st]

And he didn't use arc souls on the arc supers like arc souls isnt always on every arc warlock

[@lesliejacoby9137]

Rest in peace warlocks one shoting bosses. You were gone before I truly got to know you 🕯️

[@theneoreaper6753]

you can use weapons while in song of flame as well. so no storm trance is still ass

[@FlashesSoccer011]

Yeah but outside of dragons breath you never should.

[@noahchristman2077]

He did say that during the first song of flame test

[@Surf272]

Demolitionist Apex Predator is better than Dragon's Breath for SoF​@@FlashesSoccer011

[@TheHermitsQuarters]

Does a one-two punch shotty make the snap do more damage? I could see a massive bump if you just rotate between the two.

[@noahchristman2077]

@@TheHermitsQuarters I have never thought of that but that would be insane

[@Eazyrun]

For damage testing against Greg, have one Warlock on Speaker, SoF, Heat Rises, and ToF. Consuming a grenade while in SoF creates a healing turret on the spot. You can have multiple turrets. Just make sure they're behind Cross when damage phase starts. This isn't meant as a huge help or gamechanger, and I know, most test are meant to be open field tests, but to prevent resets or mishaps, it's a good strat.

[@ICannotBelieveIAmHere]

Inspired at the end to want an exotic that causes Well's sword to do bonus damage, stick to any target it hits, and do scorch DoT to enemies in its radius. Call it Turkey Baster or something.

[@Zenphoshen]

Cross I love these damage test videos. The shenanigans you get up to with the bets give me life haha. I love being in the stream for them live and I love watching them again on KZbin. Much love brother for putting these together and much love to your editing team for making them hilarious and amazing as always.

[@TheZarfman]

They should make an exotic that just JUICES the cast damage for Well. They could also make it buff Phoenix Dive+Heat Rises damage too for funsies

[@pirate_duck4985]

That would be pretty fun trying to slam your Well Sword on Bosses Heads for insane damage & then you have the DR after standing in it.

[@chaosv1123]

It would be pretty cool but that would involve you being surrounded before casting it would be dangerous for high level content. I wish they just gave us the insane damage resist that we had for well before.

[@jamesbarton4424]

I don't play a ton of warlock but one of my favorite damage rotations has been apotheosis/stareater song of flames with lost signal and dragon's breath mixed in

[@FlashesSoccer011]

Song of flame not getting the roaming super buff kind of kills it.

[@chaserucker604]

Not really, even after the changes song of flame is still stupidly strong.

[@talentrippin3535]

@@FlashesSoccer011 Because it doesn't need it. song of flame is extremely strong already as it is

[@jamesbarton4424]

@@talentrippin3535 exactly, pretty sure no other super lets you use your weapons while active besides well and bubble which don't really count

[@FlashesSoccer011]

@@jamesbarton4424 you shouldn't use your weapons during song of flame anyways. It literally kills your damage unless you are just using dragons breath.

[@ocularcavity8412]

20:13 some Warlock Supers have needed HELP for a WHILE! I was SO happy to get Song of Flame, and the Buff to Nova Warp (in Final shape I think it was) FINALLY giving me something that was WORTH using

[@jgadventures4161]

Just need something done with our summon abilities now its so hard to create orbs on lock compared to titan and hunter we don't really get to use our nades these days so we miss out on those orbs warlock needs something but idk exactly what

[@ocularcavity8412]

@@jgadventures4161 Yeah the our Melee and Class ability is also slow to comeback compared to the other classes and as far as grenades go the only real option is Devour, and Bungie NERFS Void SO HARD because of Devour that even with 100 Discipline it takes me me longer to get a grenade than a Hunter with 50 Discipline so if you don't use devour on void warlock you are SCREWING yourself, On my Prismatic Warlock I manages to get an Okay build without devour it puts out a LOT of Constant Aggressive damage with good ammo economy but survivability is a bit of a struggle so you NEED to keep control of Enemy Number and position and it takes a at least 10-15 seconds to get rolling and if you get stuck, revived or joined into a meat grinder you will get SLAUGHTERED before you can get up to speed and there AIN'T NOTHIN' you can do about it but maybe RUN, so prep I EVERYTHING! Grenade up time is pretty good but it took 100 Discipline 100 Recovery and 71 Resilience as well as armor mods to get Class and grenade energy from Orbs and 2 siphons to match you Primary and Special damage types to generate them and then SLAUGHTER, to get there and that is without Artifice armor. So far EVER artifice armor piece I have gotten is a DOWNGRADE on my current set can't WAIT for the new armor system so Armor can be fun again

[@ravensequinox3515]

One combo I think overlooked alot is Dawnchorus, Song of Flame, with Dragons Breath, and a controlled burst Scatter signal. Obviously not just the dmg from the super, but the inherent synergies you use in that build while having free roam to deal dmg while in it does make it higher than probably half of theses. Thanks for the video, good to know!

[@Waxedem9199]

I agree. The ignitions reloading drains breathe from song of flame is nice also.

[@PopularNobody]

My favorite warlock content creator

[@cephydash1533]

Sentinel shield being broken with 170% extra damage and the devs actively encouraging titans to use it while warlocks get ballidorse disabled is certainly a choice

[@BlackSparrowXI]

You can’t really compare with the titan base super to warlock’s exotic gauntlet being disabled

[@vorpal_exe]

i mean one is doing a bunch more of damage and the other is literally DELETING health bars, not comparable

[@SlyRocko]

there is a difference between extra damage and straight up removing bosses

[@Sol_Nth]

Look, the titan mains are triggered lol

[@nubzz7786]

Oneshotting bosses is not comparable to sentinel at all

[@TheCooldog]

“Do you want to last longer or f*ck longer?” Speaking from experience I see.

[@kche1117]

*harder

[@J-sl4wh]

I remember I first solo flawless cleared the coil when I used apotheosis. Such a nice exotic.

[@IncorporatedMonsters]

Cross saying skull is good for getting your super back is crazy because it used to be good for getting super back then they nerfed it into the ground now you’re lucky to get a fifth of your super back from 30 ads killed by novabomb, they haven’t looked at that exotic since year 2 it’s trash like most warlock exotics now, coming from a warlock main 🤷‍♂️ 16:40

[@chainin-the-blox]

You can easily get half a bar back when you use it to knock out adds. But the boss only counts as one hit so you get nothing back if he is the only target.

[@lordgrub12345]

Skull is great rn, what are you saying?

[@N7_Jaeger]

@Aztecross by your logic shouldn't you be using weapons during song of flame since it is a unique super that allows you to use weapons? Just like aptheosis is a unique exotic that allows you to spam abilities after hence you including abilities in "Super" dmg testing.

[@FlashesSoccer011]

No one actually uses weapons in song of flame. If you use anything other than dragons' breath, you are trolling.

[@davidplatt9307]

​@FlashesSoccer011 you obviously have not used legend of acrius.

[@SlyRocko]

@@FlashesSoccer011 that's still a weapon 💀

[@HumzyTumzy]

Thank you God for creating Aztecross

[@PopularNobody]

He did unravel with the nades, but he didn't do unravel with only melee in Song of Flame. Only melee puts out more damage than melee + grenade. Song of Flame is stronger

[@DarthLevicor]

Thank you Cross for adding the extra ability rotations too :)

[@sanchansama9356]

the Comedy of Cross FLAMING & BURN'N UP His Chat.. 🤣🤣💯💯🤟🏽🤟🏽 LOVE'IT!!

[@shaolinrasta2289]

Cross saved his favourite subclass for last. Gotta love it

[@Waxedem9199]

Favorite streamer hands down thanks for the videos cross ! Man me and my warlocks need some love but we still cook 🧑‍🍳 just takes some extra thought and effort into builds / weapon rotations

[@yourbrojohno]

The apotheosis is BS cause you need to be shooting your heavy and special. 2 mil damage is cool but it takes the whole damage phase. Dawn chorus with daybreak, no apotheosis but still hellion, only takes 15 seconds from damage and still gives 1.25mil. It is the highest DPS super on warlock.

[@JH-vb1wo]

I got apotheosis with star eater on warlock and I stopped getting warlock class items at that point. Such a fun combo

[@TalosCreations]

Using Stormtrance for damage here's some recommendations. Stick the boss with Anarchy before going super, have a Helion for ignitions, use strand melee for some bonus if you have necrotic, have a turret freezing to apply debuff so light damage does more damage, and use your void grenade to weaken. All of this combined cooks very hard.

[@wunaluna6658]

Ever since this season started been rocking stormdancers brace with prismatic devour and stasis turrets, and can say if you want a nice all rounder build that can dmg and clear entire rooms of ads while keeping ability uptime it is hella fun

[@cadingibson6699]

I somehow got apotheosis and star eater on my warlock as my very first drop of that dual destiny mission. Felt good!

[@Mateus.G.Garcia]

Kylo Ren: "More!, More!" Cross: "More!, More!". I could see the similarity haha

[@nclrwntr144]

Strand apotheosis is actually really good with threadling nades

[@tired4432]

I love this channel

[@ladieslovefelix]

12:53 the reason i watch this mans content!! ITS fucking Content!!

[@carrieskidmore2154]

This video was so funny, keep them coming man!

[@raistlinspringfield5577]

Love Chaos Reach. Cannot wait to see it being in Prismatic.

[@DarkPyroZero]

Also, hard agree, Apotheosis counts as part of the Super due to the requirement using your Super to get the affect from the Exotic, it enhances the Super in totality

[@BirdMoose]

For stormdancers brace I don't even use it for the extra damage on kills, but for the 50% refund on kills. Super strong exotic for GMs and other non-dps based activities.

[@GavinLIVE715]

Stormdancers brace was my go to for Gambit before its rework. Back when all the taken spawned on stage with the boss.

[@Mowmaster]

if you spam daybreak using dawn chorus i believe you get less ignition procs then if you give it some time in between, ignitions have a short delay before they can reproc usually, also heat rising + dive is a good way to scorch during super too...

[@alexioa142]

The video I've been waiting for right when I come back home! Let's go!!

[@davidespinelli9649]

I really like the balance between the best dps supers for the warlock.. in the end the best roaming for dps is prismatic storm trance, the best roaming in general for utility and dps is prismatic song of flame, the best one and done it's prismatic nova bomb and the best alternative (depending on the boss type since nova bomb blocks damage) is prismatic needle storm or needle storm with euphony on strand

[@gavinhazan1415]

If song of flame counts as roaming then no storm trance is absolutely not the best. With song of flame you can use your weapons. Storm trance takes fucking forever and that time could be better spent using weapons. Please for the sake of everyone you raid/do dungeons with do NOT use Stormtrance for damage

[@davidespinelli9649]

@@gavinhazan1415 yes song of flame is overall way better than storm trance ..but at least is strong now

[@gavinhazan1415]

@ it ain’t bad for GMs and stuff like that where having optimal DPS isn’t necessary but it should NEVER be used for dungeon/raid boss damage unless you’re doing shattered throne or prophecy or something similar where they have no health

[@route77productions]

As a prior Ballidorse enjoyer. Winter’s Wrath needs to do 500k damage with Ballidorse making it do 1m. Ballidorse Buff: Killing enemies with Winter’s Wrath extends the use of the Super. Osmiomancy Buff: Killing Slowed or Frozen enemies grants Super Energy.

[@gavinhazan1415]

Osmiomancy does NOT need a buff homie that shit is still cracked

[@badrolljoe]

I hope we get new Stasis & Strand supers at some point. be nice if every subclass had a roaming and a one shot/support

[@dredgen0268]

Stormdancer’s is so good in Contest of Elders.

[@MRthedanger191]

22:16 finally the man, the legend, the meth has comeback. welcome back anticross

[@lewistownsend7808]

An aztec video and a big bowl best combo

[@Waxedem9199]

Facts

[@sirtriston8882]

The eggplant giveth and the eggplant taketh away hahahah

[@Menderino]

I've been using weaken + nova bomb on slowed enemies with prismatic and the artifact for void dmg on stasis debuffet targets in pretty much every content, it does quite the chunk of damage. I'm also using Bad Juju for quick super regen

[@blackfang0815]

I'm just saying, Well converts weapon damage matching the caster's super element to super damage. #justiceforwell

[@SSSD_Ghost]

Loved seeing my twitch name pop up “Brother rigged it” definitely got a laugh out of that reaction

[@Waxedem9199]

One of my simple go to damage as warlock is using song of flame paired with dragons breath . I use song a lot in tough situations for survival so it depends on

[@BlackHawk86580]

Have you ever considered doing testing with team member running Phoenix Cradle? They would be able to buff you with Sol Invictus and lengthen any super no matter the class. I remember a clip from ages ago with Chaos Reach and it behaved similarly to how it would during the solstice event with the elemental pickups.

[@spazzologist]

Goddamn that 68 roll apotheosis is perfect

[@CoBaltKarma]

Have we ever tested popping Song of Flame but only doing solar weapon dps? Just for the radiant and scorch it does with solar weapons

[@Xtraflossy]

Space hippies always get the last vids, with NO regard for the consistency for those that came before it.

[@Waxedem9199]

Lol

[@CrispyPommeFrites]

Man… warlocks need love 😢

[@justanordinarysquirrel8568]

Pretty sure the reason why arc compounding isnt making much of a difference is because it doesnt proc off of flashbang nades, but will proc off any other source of arc blind.

[@DecafHobgoblin5]

i swear they need to turn well into a shut down super like that final dps testing, obviously it wouldn't be used in very many situations but could you imagine if it actually did like 300k damage on cast then you can start using your weapons and abilities to stack more on top of the cast damage, this needs to become a reality imo

[@Codymathiewitz]

17:21 thanks for making everyone around me stare at me in unison

[@purewhiteloverbizarrejelly]

Forget a damage buff, Needle Storm just needs a complete rework

[@zlxc_]

btw you can still throw nades while in Storm Trance :p

[@friendlyelites]

I want to state that Cross still uses Winter's Wrath wrong, you need to hold the shatter button as you shoot and it fires half the projectiles and uses half the super energy per shatter which does actually increase its damage by a lot. Only half decent with Ballidorse but its significantly better than tested.

[@garethlamb6923]

I’ve noticed that having an extra melee (from claw of ahamkhara or spirit of of the claw) lets song of flame snap faster. I’ve always wondered how the damage would be if you only did the really fast snaps they let you do.

[@arachbae4777]

Is Apotheosis veil + Euphony Needlestorm still good?

[@KahluaBomb]

When you do the stasis super, you need to throw grenades instead of using the primary click to freeze to extend the super duration. Still weak but gives you a bit more time to pulse out the blasts.

[@Menderino]

When u throw nova bomb at close range the seekers don't spawn as seen in previous tests too. They do quite some chunk of dmg

[@vaquri]

This guy ain't beating the warlock allegations

[@eyeONE_Official]

So Well + Sanguine Alchemy doesn't count? Easy 3m, up to 5m with the right set up (swap to Prismatic with Arc super after placing the Well, blind with Ex Diris and rotate with Bitter/Sweet + something with Chill Clip). I mean the damage comes from weapons yea, but it's technically coded as super damage.

[@ThePackman627]

Honestly Bungie really needs to come in and buff all underperforming roaming supers by a lot versus everything. Winter's wrath should at the very least be doing double damage, probably triple. If it's doing 350k~ it should be doing over a mil easy

[@dankerbell]

i would've been mad too cause daybreak clears stormtrance on every level including fantasy and sfx and cross still managed to find a way to rig it

[@cssmalls03]

I feel like they should swap the super energy return and super extension on kills between stormdancers and crown. Seems like they would both play into their main playstyles better

[@mewclelegend9945]

Cross if you're gonna include spirit of Apotheosis, you gotta include spirit of eternal warrior on titan and use thunder lord, which is the most accessible exotic that we got from gift of the thunder gods.

[@Elamamalo]

This has to be the most scuffed testing and betting I’ve ever seen

[@Digbigbombig]

Warlock meta, as always, is well. If you already have a well, just run the highest damage burst super, used to be stand, now its star eater nova. It’s been the same for 6 years.

[@davidespinelli9649]

radiance isn't as necessary anymore since it was nerfed.. broken? definitely... useful? definitely... recommended? certainly.. mandatory? not anymore.. if you use Song of Flame with healing turrets you will be fine in 90% of the activities, even more so given that Prismatic exists which literally allows you to walk around in a GM as if it were in normal.

[@KarpetRydOFunk]

AntiCross is first favourite Cross.

[@edwardthetree8308]

The whole hour long debate about whether apotheosis counted as "super" damage or not was an ordeal and a half to experience in real time.

[@x.I.N.K.x]

I hope bungie lets us use any super on prismatic when they are done adding supers to the darkness subclasses.

[@Cyclopsgaming360]

Winters wrath is the most identity-less super in the entire game. It does no boss dmg, can clear about 12 ads on average, and it’s exotic buffs damage instead of duration. They need to make a one and done exotic for it, like celestial and pyrogale.

[@zKreo]

You are forgetting that tractor is intrinsic to song of flame unless someone is running it already, meaning it should be 30% higher damage

[@hoax845]

The use of apotheosis means eternal warrior could be used for titan testing since it says super on the description too

[@Giz4269]

I’m still butthurt that the ballidors were turned off immediately, while the rest of the 2 classes can continue to abuse their broken ultimates

[@lakeside5771]

Ok but in fairness there is a pretty significant difference in the level of op

[@Giz4269]

​@@lakeside5771sure, but I wanted to have a good time, diversify the gameplay and play as frost mage🥶

[@LimySilver2]

In fairness one is caused by an exotic and the others are just the supers. Easy to disable and exotic versus an entire super

[@damianmikulec866]

​@@LimySilver2 didn't they disable tether for vesper

[@FlashesSoccer011]

Tether has been disabled in the dungeon for like 4 months. Stop crying.

[@arthurvigil]

We learned that warlocks are underwhelming not only in super damage but build diversity

[@JJHype]

Cross’s main! Master class Warlock 💪

[@Lumine_Dreamweaver]

What ive learned from this is warlocks are the angriest of the 3 classes

[@vinski19]

Did you not try Dawn Chorus with Daybreak?

[@lucasmorris6005]

Last longer or fk harder.. look, even a needle at 100mph will do damage. Just use chaos reach lol

[@Im_Ellipsis]

i've been saying Geomag C-Reach is a sleeper pick, especially with the rework to beacons a few months back and now arc compounding, you can build arc lock to just be "yeah, you're blind"

[@fillbert6690]

Winter's Wrath needs to get a damage/duration buff. I cannot remember the last time I used it legitimately.

[@XxXxXKEIFERXxXxX]

Why no well with sanguine then hot swap to arc super with grand overture or any arc weapon?