B&T APC9-SD - The Swiss MP5-SD

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@Militaryarmschannel
@Militaryarmschannel 5 жыл бұрын
I get a lot of questions about items we use in video here's a current list of items I get questions about: Mechanix Gloves: amzn.to/2BR9dEp Propper Fleece (jacket): amzn.to/331qPZW ESS Military Eye Protection: amzn.to/2IKUAX5 Peltor 3M 100 series hearing protection: amzn.to/2ARWwIO
@d10x21
@d10x21 5 жыл бұрын
Any word on when to expect the barrel/ rail combos for the GHM9? There's supposed to be 3 different lengths to choose from, which includes a barrel removal tool.
@ParsonWilkerson
@ParsonWilkerson 4 жыл бұрын
How does the gun cycle when its tapping that much gas off?
@loungemen662
@loungemen662 4 жыл бұрын
And 99 cent screwdriver 😂
@cobbetlprogrammer1344
@cobbetlprogrammer1344 3 жыл бұрын
Thank GOD. We live in Texas! So there is NO TAX Stamps! Yeah! Great Show Tim! Cheers,
@BoomerTactical
@BoomerTactical 5 жыл бұрын
B&T are the ones who build the suppressor for the MP5SD
@hajihunterr7662
@hajihunterr7662 5 жыл бұрын
I think B&T is THE premier Weapons manufacturer in the world right now.
@GUNSHIPFLEX
@GUNSHIPFLEX 4 жыл бұрын
I think most would agree and so would the price tag. You get what you pay for in the gun industry
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Why because they put a buffer system on a straight blow back? The APC9 can't hold a candle to the MP5. Here we are 65 years after the MP5 and it's roller delayed blow back and we still have simple blow back SMGs somehow pretending to be cool. APC9 has more in common functionally with the STEN or M3 Grease Gun that it does with a more advanced SMG like the MP5. SIG, HK, and FN are the Big Three in the weapons industry right now. And the MP5 is still THE dominant force in the world of SMGs, as evident by the fact you still try to compare your silly straight blow back B&T with it.
@ShaneABaker
@ShaneABaker 5 жыл бұрын
I dont remember if I've ever seen a ballistic gel test of a gun with a suppressor vs one without, but it would most certainly be a video I'd watch!
@aholegunner
@aholegunner 5 жыл бұрын
That my friend, is a FANTASTIC IDEA!
@RabeHK
@RabeHK 5 жыл бұрын
I have one, love it. Paid 2.2k swiss francs plus 400 Swiss francs for 10 additional magazines, also mine came with an aimpoint reddot. Did want to buy an MP5SD but they where not available at the time. This Christmas it will be a B&T VP9, since sometimes you have to kill a horse silently. Greetings from Switzerland
@mimcquee0311
@mimcquee0311 5 жыл бұрын
The Force Recon guys loved the MP5 SD back in the early 90's. And yes, standard issue military 9mm ammo, quiet as heck.
@TheRealJeff984
@TheRealJeff984 5 жыл бұрын
I swear Tim can break anything. Hes most definitely a Marine lol
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 5 жыл бұрын
As long as he doesn't get it pregnant we're ok.
@ashmerch2558
@ashmerch2558 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh a fellow crayon eater... that explains it
@xORLOCKx
@xORLOCKx 5 жыл бұрын
There is a new HR bill proposed to remove SBRs from the NFA. We need to be supporting and talking about it and writing our politicians to back it
@MyEpicWins
@MyEpicWins 5 жыл бұрын
Poor gun owners will support it, but not the one who already invested in those NFA items, sad but true
@xORLOCKx
@xORLOCKx 5 жыл бұрын
@@MyEpicWins picking and choosing what gun rights to fight for is how we lost them in the first place. There is no compromise to the 2a
@madswummelz902
@madswummelz902 5 жыл бұрын
@@MyEpicWins you can't be that poor if you're a gun owner to begin with
@MyEpicWins
@MyEpicWins 5 жыл бұрын
@@madswummelz902 are you serious? Someone can buy $100 hi point doesn't make them not poor, still a gun owner
@jessimms3316
@jessimms3316 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyEpicWins Last attempt to do this (Hearing Protection Act) had a provision to refund the tax stamp if it was paid after a certain date. No reason they couldn't include it again here.
@GUNSHIPFLEX
@GUNSHIPFLEX 4 жыл бұрын
I’d LOVE to see an APC9SD Gen2 review on KZbin (hint hint-MAC). They did a lot of nice upgrades, making the hand guard shorter (which I really like) and some really nice intuitive controls and a non reciprocating charging handle as MAC stated in the video.
@cercaz
@cercaz 6 ай бұрын
Picked up a Gen 2 Pro for 2.3k after stamp. It's slowly becoming one of my favorites, not just as a PCC
@BetweentheCheeks00
@BetweentheCheeks00 4 ай бұрын
From where?
@cercaz
@cercaz 4 ай бұрын
@@BetweentheCheeks00 modernwarriors, they had a discount to make way for the new modular flow through
@leatherneckprepper4477
@leatherneckprepper4477 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, you need to set up your steel in such a way that you can play jingle bells that would be absolutely flipping hilarious!
@gzumbana
@gzumbana 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video , good details about the pistols and internal items too .
@Noble_Titus
@Noble_Titus 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for choronographing the difference in the rounds. That’s exactly the info I was looking for!
@Elemental-y4l
@Elemental-y4l 5 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see this gun fire without the suppressor in slow motion to see the venting gasses
@Zuercher
@Zuercher 4 жыл бұрын
The SD Model can not be shot without the integral supressor. But most remarkable is that you need not sub ammo with it, it slows down ultrasonic to a sub. Outstanding
@AB-vd7ux
@AB-vd7ux 5 жыл бұрын
I like MAC and have been watching for many years.. it's the only channel that's not obsessed with getting a million subs.. well.. only 6k more to go now.. thanks for all these years of entertainment and knowledge, Tim.
@RED7309
@RED7309 5 жыл бұрын
My biggest wish is for the B&T guns is Magpul and other companies start making aftermarket mags for the B&T guns. They are popular enough.
@willsimmons9946
@willsimmons9946 5 жыл бұрын
Strogg Elite This
@RED7309
@RED7309 5 жыл бұрын
@@willsimmons9946 Like I get they make Glock lowers, but personally, I hate the look of the Glock lowers. I just want stronger B&T mags. Maybe ETS/Lancer could get on board if not magpul.
@willsimmons9946
@willsimmons9946 5 жыл бұрын
Strogg Elite Agreed, I’m not a Glock guy myself, so I don’t have Glock mags laying around. Also the angle they sit at just looks weird aesthetically. B&T could definitely make a better mag, maybe even a metal one (but then it’d probably cost $100 like the APC45 mag). Only reason I think Magpul and Lancer haven’t jumped in is the market is small. B&T is a small company and despite nearly the whole lineup of guns using the same mag there just aren’t enough guns out there to support the R&D, mold development, etc. Hope I’m wrong and it happens
@merkenallday
@merkenallday 5 жыл бұрын
Your getting really close to 1 million subs. As always keep up the great work. I'll share your channel as much as I can.
@GodsGladiator
@GodsGladiator 5 жыл бұрын
We finally got an apc9 at the shop. Just the regular model configured as a pistol. It felt pretty good in the hand. I agree they are expensive...2400 bucks is steep but the quality seems there and I’m a firm believer that in the firearm world you get what you pay for.
@willsimmons9946
@willsimmons9946 5 жыл бұрын
Tache I own several B&Ts. I do not regret buying a single one. The quality is unparalleled
@nicklaustietje2749
@nicklaustietje2749 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like a solution to a problem that doesn’t really exist. You have 2 options to get sub-subsonic sound out of a suppressor: Use heavier ammunition that is already subsonic, or slow down lighter ammunition to subsonic speeds. If both rounds are going the same speed anyway wouldn’t you rather have the heavier round? I would. It means more energy on target.
@Iamtherealjerkfreak
@Iamtherealjerkfreak 5 жыл бұрын
Nicklaus Tietje these guns are duty guns not sport guns... made for military and police... your squad have 3 apc or any other 9mm pistol pcc... do you realy wanna be the only guy whit different amo? No cause you wanna use what everyone else uses...
@nicklaustietje2749
@nicklaustietje2749 5 жыл бұрын
Iamtherealjerkfreak actually you kinda hit my point. I was expecting the argument against what I said to be that ammo is cheaper. Well being duty guns that shouldn’t really matter. Also the fact that these guns are so expensive counters the cheaper ammo argument. In response to your point, I am not now or have ever been in the military or law enforcement service, so I have nothing to support what I’m about to say: why does your squad only have pcc’s? That seems unrealistic and underpowered for LEOs and military. Why are you the only person in your squad with a suppressed barrel? Either you need stealth or not right? If you end up using your squads ammo I’m assuming shit has hit the fan so bad already that stealth has gone out the window so what’s the point of you continuing to be sub-sonic? Lastly seeing as 9’s are so small and lightweight compared to rifle ammo you can strap on with your gear so much that you have to be in a really bad situation to run dry.
@Iamtherealjerkfreak
@Iamtherealjerkfreak 5 жыл бұрын
Nicklaus Tietje looooot of police forces in Europe only carry 9mm mp5 and mp5sds even special forces in the military use over here more often smg instead of unrealiable short 223s... for many reasons. Why only one guy might have a sd? Simple sometimes you just ned one quite bullet... ;) further on you’re right 9mm amo is quite light to carry but most military’s only have one 9mm ball(NATO spec) round. The logistics and cost for a second specialized sub sonic round is often just a to big of a hazard too.. so the simple solution is buy a gun that can use everything...
@nicklaustietje2749
@nicklaustietje2749 5 жыл бұрын
Iamtherealjerkfreak I guess that does makes sense. Thank you
@retiredLBPD
@retiredLBPD 4 жыл бұрын
I have this same gun but chambered in .45acp. It’s the B&T APC 45 SD. It’s very quiet, I shoot underwood 255 grain hard cast out of her.
@andysmith5220
@andysmith5220 5 жыл бұрын
MAC I have the only version colt ever manufactured of the ro635 integral suppressed 9mm I've had it for 15 yrs and yes all documentation from colt. and the entire back story. this gun was the only copy that competed to replace the mp5sd went introduced to military in 1986. stoner knight had theirs another design was as well Colt refused to let miltary keep it. I have it's back story if interested. its had an amazing life. By the way your is louder than mine. I've had mine tested and it has 40db of suppression.
@jimreichard4473
@jimreichard4473 5 жыл бұрын
a couple of things. I have seen these guns sell without the suppressor for around $2200.00 . something not mentioned is on the gen 1 guns they can use any mp5 SD suppressor. I run a silencerco Omega 9sd on mine. its about 4 inches shorter, and extremely quiet. it is also less cost of the B&T can.
@lowlight8466
@lowlight8466 5 жыл бұрын
Are we going to see you break LWRCI new smg 45 on your channel?
@wargriffin5
@wargriffin5 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the APC10-SD.
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 5 жыл бұрын
reminds me that I need a MP5SD!
@Alex-xf7dg
@Alex-xf7dg 5 жыл бұрын
You going to review the HK SP5?
@hantusmostert
@hantusmostert 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine a Gen 2 in 6ARC or even better 6.5PRC
@aholegunner
@aholegunner 5 жыл бұрын
*When will BCM testing continue?* Seems like its been a long time since last test. I love your tests!
@PuLizzzNaMatuLizzz
@PuLizzzNaMatuLizzz 5 жыл бұрын
That MRO with the larue tactical looks really really good...just got mine for my scar 16....thank you Sir for this video...
@Militaryarmschannel
@Militaryarmschannel 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a Midwest Industries low mount.
@PuLizzzNaMatuLizzz
@PuLizzzNaMatuLizzz 5 жыл бұрын
@@Militaryarmschannel thank you Sir...i've heard that on your past videos but as everybody else we always forget...thank you for the videos...more power to your channel...
@justa3v619
@justa3v619 5 жыл бұрын
Couple years ago I built an ar9 pistol 10.5” barrel and even the 147 subs were coming out super sonic. Every now and then you wouldn’t hear that crack but more often than not it wasn’t hearing safe. I’ve since gotten rid of the ar9 and have an evo3 really wish I could get their factory suppressed version but Santa Claus ain’t got it like that this year.
@judesheckelberg5135
@judesheckelberg5135 5 жыл бұрын
"A very, very volumeous can" aka "SHE THICC"
@OverlandArizona4690
@OverlandArizona4690 5 жыл бұрын
If you shop around you can find some really good deals on these. I picked up my APC9SD brand new with the suppressor for $2400 on GB.
@wildlifeYaktographer
@wildlifeYaktographer 5 жыл бұрын
I am soon getting a MP5 SD suppressor from TPM Firearms ($520 / User serviceable). They are porting & threading a 9mm AR15 barrel to MP5 SD barrel specs ($275). I can wait!
@airbomb34
@airbomb34 5 жыл бұрын
.45 ACP is where it's at for PCC suppressed. Kriss Vector is the ultimate PCC suppressed option right now.
@jessesimmons9238
@jessesimmons9238 5 жыл бұрын
airbomb34 how about the CMMG banshee MK45?
@JDogCOII
@JDogCOII 2 жыл бұрын
B&T imported only 26 of these SD versions in .45apc. When compared to the 9 mm SD version there were thousands of those created for the US market because of so many police department orders in 9mm. BUT the .45 APC version, extremely rare as I said only 26 were made for the US.
5 жыл бұрын
[x] Do want. [x] Still not an MP5 tho..
@cgr88m
@cgr88m 5 жыл бұрын
It's better
@jeremysiegel10
@jeremysiegel10 5 жыл бұрын
@@cgr88m theta a no from me chief
@cgr88m
@cgr88m 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeremysiegel10 the mp5 is great but people over hype it because it's in video games and it was not available to the public, 10 yrs ago I'd agree with you because when everyone was making 9mm sub guns in open bolt, the mp5 was a game changer. But many competitor have caught up and even surpassed the design.
@pauloigor3822
@pauloigor3822 5 жыл бұрын
@@cgr88m There is originals H&K mp5s in the civilian market right now.
@7gerez
@7gerez 5 жыл бұрын
cgr88m I believe people over hype it not because of a game or a movie. But the fact it’s a 1960s design and is not only still relevant. But it works. Think of it as a muscle car. A new corvette z06 is around $100k. 650hp great car. Fast. Whatever. But look back at a 1967 corvette L88. That’s the one that will always turn a head. And not only that. It appreciates In value. Rare
@fancyultrafresh3264
@fancyultrafresh3264 5 жыл бұрын
I love talking about voluminous cans.
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 5 жыл бұрын
I love cranking a big nut off whilst looking at them.
@thelefthandedshooter5760
@thelefthandedshooter5760 5 жыл бұрын
$3.3k to save a buck fifty per box of ammo. Return on investment in 18000 rounds.
@f5tornadeau
@f5tornadeau 5 жыл бұрын
Sheldon Robertson unless you’re like me and already own a Scorpion. I’d have to invest the full price of the B&T to be able to properly suppress regular ammo. Sweet gun, but I’d never be able to justify it. Hell, I’m still morally against that $200.00 tax stamp. #stillrunningloud
@unrealhit88
@unrealhit88 5 жыл бұрын
Thelefthandedshooter makes cents lmao
@erikforks8909
@erikforks8909 5 жыл бұрын
That’s like 2 years of ammo for me. Less than a year for a few guys I shoot with.
@cjs19kilo
@cjs19kilo 5 жыл бұрын
Well $2.3k from several online vendors with a simple google search. To be fair, $2.5k after applying for the tax stamp. Either way, your math is considerably off. Most good 9mm cans run in the $400-700 range anyway, so ultimately not a terrible price.
@weasle2904
@weasle2904 5 жыл бұрын
You can pick one up for $2.3k-2.5 right now
@blahblah6497
@blahblah6497 2 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE one of those!!
@Enes-wj5xq
@Enes-wj5xq 5 жыл бұрын
Man this firearm is dope !! I hope they make the next model takes 5.7 the FN pistol caliber.
@Enes-wj5xq
@Enes-wj5xq 5 жыл бұрын
@M Via Yes, like it is cool stuff
@willsimmons9946
@willsimmons9946 5 жыл бұрын
Enes Kemal if they made an sd in 5.7 that shot subsonic you might as well be shooting .22LR, it would be worthless
@Enes-wj5xq
@Enes-wj5xq 5 жыл бұрын
@@willsimmons9946 That's disappointing, but I would like to see a bigger caliber than pistol calibers in this firearm.
@johndavies6253
@johndavies6253 5 жыл бұрын
Tim. Please take a moment to video 30 rounds of sub sonic 9mm in this Swiss Miss. just how quiet can it get???
@shotgunfighter9216
@shotgunfighter9216 5 жыл бұрын
That's why I like .45 acp and .380 acp. Naturally sub-sonic no matter what. How about a review on the Bersa Thunder M8X?
@drivinforalivin6945
@drivinforalivin6945 5 жыл бұрын
"I dont have to buy expensive ammo, I can buy the cheap stuff" holding 3000$ pistol"
@MysticTheDarkElf
@MysticTheDarkElf 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, in the long run, ammunition is going to be every gun owner's(who shoot regularly) biggest expense.
@stackscustominc1
@stackscustominc1 5 жыл бұрын
Both statements are very true, anyone who shoots a lot will spend more than their firearm is worth in ammo but probably less than half the people who buy nice high end guns shoot them regularly. I'm kind of guilty of this myself, i buy a lot of high end nice guns but only a few of them i shoot regularly. But on the other hand I've had my hk usp for many years now and have 28,000 rounds through it, still shoots as good as the day i bought it though
@theepicslayer7sss101
@theepicslayer7sss101 4 жыл бұрын
to make sense here, maybe you won't find the sub sonic every time, but with this ANY ammo has a pretty good chance of becoming sub sonic. don't know about +p and +p+ or actual sub sonic ammo's performance in this gun but, at least, if you see ammo, you can just put it in in most cases. for some one who works in tactical environment, that could probably help... 9x19mm is one of the most common ammo!
@Bloodreign137
@Bloodreign137 4 жыл бұрын
DrivinforaLivin ! While his other $2300 sbr version is hanging out somewhere off camera lmao work hard in life get to play hard.. or maybe he got lucky lol
@af7119
@af7119 4 жыл бұрын
why do some people put the dollar sign after the number?
@nosteponsnek8644
@nosteponsnek8644 5 жыл бұрын
are you guys still doing the BCM endurance test. been a few months since the last video.
@wewd
@wewd 5 жыл бұрын
Springs and followers are consumable parts, on any magazine. Replace them and shoot on.
@fluffywarhampster
@fluffywarhampster 5 жыл бұрын
How do the apc9 compare sound wise to something like an mp5? I have always heard that the mp5s are quieter suppressed because of the roller delayed blowback system but never personally experienced it. Which would you recomend between the two? If i bought and apc9 it would be the glock mag variant.
@Zuercher
@Zuercher 4 жыл бұрын
I have an original German made MP5 and the APC9 G Pro SD. Run them both supressed, not a comparison APC is much quieter. Have i n mind there 50 years in between
@wincav
@wincav 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent information! Thanks
@f5tornadeau
@f5tornadeau 5 жыл бұрын
Another video to remind me that I need to buy a lottery ticket. Wife did get me my dream shotgun, a Benelli M4, as an early Christmas present, so I can’t really complain. 1st World problems...
@joquin4618
@joquin4618 5 жыл бұрын
That’s an awesome wife!!
@f5tornadeau
@f5tornadeau 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, better than I deserve. I’ll tell her you said that 😆
@joquin4618
@joquin4618 5 жыл бұрын
f5tornadeau a wife that approves a 2k shotgun and gives it to you as a gift is more than a keeper.... she’s a proverbs 31 woman!!!
@goombakiwi
@goombakiwi 5 жыл бұрын
I don't remember the name of the movie, but it was an old one. There was a scene were a man with a suppressed gun was trying to shoot through the heavy glass, he eventually took off the suppressor to get more power out of his rounds. Never seen another movie take on that kind reality.
@tobywonkinoby8916
@tobywonkinoby8916 5 жыл бұрын
So cool. Definitely want one.
@ApexPredatorOutdoors
@ApexPredatorOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
I found this gun by playing COD warzone. I loved the ISO in game, and I think I'll love one of these once I can afford it!
@Russianmafia10
@Russianmafia10 5 жыл бұрын
This doesn't "slow the bullet down". It just keeps it from accelerating past 1100
@motonut007
@motonut007 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry but yes it does slow the round down . If the round is rated at 1350 fps and the vents keep it from achieving 1350, it slowed the round down by bleeding off the pressure.
@Russianmafia10
@Russianmafia10 5 жыл бұрын
@@motonut007 the round itself never "slows down". The entire time down the barrel it accelerates to it's final velocity
@yaboidayron1833
@yaboidayron1833 5 жыл бұрын
A very powerful .380 maybe. 380 isn't commonly the same grain weight as a 9mm, meaning the 9mm should have more energy when subsonic. American Eagle .380 acp: 95g fmj at 980 ft/s = 203 ft. lbs. American eagle 9mm: 115g fmj at 1180 ft/s = 356 ft. lbs The 9mm hits 207 ft. lbs. at 900 ft/s so it would have to slow the smallest grain weight 9mm down 100 ft/s slower than .380 for them to be the same "power". You just don't get a lot of power out of subsonic rounds so I wouldn't be complaining if I were them folks, just don't buy that suppressor.
@Paelorian
@Paelorian 5 жыл бұрын
The porting is great if the gun is for plinking or target shooting, but for defense I would load heavy bullets, which at full velocity are much more powerful than light bullets with much reduced velocity. 147gr rounds are now inexpensive and widely available. Civilians including police have no trouble obtaining 147gr rounds, and I would submit that military units that would have a gun like a APC9-SD would very likely have the ability to use it with non-standard 147gr ammo. Given that this has a pistol-length barrel, they could have shortened it to keep 147gr reliably subsonic. If I were B&T I would offer the barrel porting as an option, so that those who prefer to shoot heavier bullets at the same velocity would be able to. But I wouldn't use a semi-auto 9x19mm for self-defense, anyway, so it doesn't matter much to me. At the range cheap light ammo is fine. I'd only consider choosing a 9x19mm gun as large as the APC9-SD to defend my life if it was select-fire like the military and police version. That barrel (including the integral suppressor) looks like it's only a few inches short of the 16" legal limit. For us common civilians subject to the NFA, I would have preferred a barrel slightly longer, just above 16", so that it would legally be a ("Title I", or regular) rifle that a stock could be mounted to. Then there would be no concern about the legal status of braces changing in the future and so changing the legal status of this firearm.
@neurotoksyn
@neurotoksyn 5 жыл бұрын
The suppressor isn't integral and the barrel length is like 6 inches. It is "integral" only because it is intended to be fired with a can but the two items (the APC9 and the B&T suppressor) are sold separately, however many retailers are selling them together as a combo. The can mounts to threads near the chamber and just beyond them are the gas ports. From the factory it is possible to fire without the suppressor, which is why the gun ships with a nut covering the ports that you have to remove first if you want to mount the suppressor.
@akhamangnao9149
@akhamangnao9149 3 жыл бұрын
MP5 N MP7 ARE THE KING N QUEEN OF SUB.
@StraitClownin909
@StraitClownin909 5 жыл бұрын
B&T: - Let's take an already weak service cartridge and make it less effective. -Then lets charge 3 times the cost of every other sub gun in the segment. -why? So you can shoot the cheap stuff after we have all your money.
@MyEpicWins
@MyEpicWins 5 жыл бұрын
Lol EXACTLY! This design purpose is stupid
@cgr88m
@cgr88m 5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly , if you don't want to be switching between subsonic and regular ammo just get any supressed sub gun in 45acp.
@MrRetobaer
@MrRetobaer 5 жыл бұрын
Americans: Let's buy cheap things and fix it and modify it and fix it again and again and again and again... And complain about the price of quality things. :-) It's mostly cheaper in the longrun to buy quality!
@D_S_88
@D_S_88 5 жыл бұрын
Lol...that last point was too true.
@weasle2904
@weasle2904 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrRetobaer I mean, what does this offer that demands $3000 ? Sure it has some nice machining, but that's not enough for me to spend 4x as much as a Stribog
@Americandog83
@Americandog83 5 жыл бұрын
Yea!! More Unobtainable!!
@TheOnyxGeneral
@TheOnyxGeneral 5 жыл бұрын
Damn that's a sweet set up. I wonder if B&T will ever try their hand at making an APC9 based off the SMG II from H&K. It would be cool to be able to toggle the SD functionality.
@jrbailey3208
@jrbailey3208 5 жыл бұрын
The word is pronounced; "Vall-ooom-inn-us"......sorry, but you are very articulate in so many other ways, I couldn't resist on this nitpicker. Cheers from the Oil Patch in Central WY
@Ws_minion
@Ws_minion 5 жыл бұрын
I get an uncontrollable twitch every time Tim says "slows it down" with respect to anything integrally suppressed
@Klovaneer
@Klovaneer 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah iirc they put vents on the end half of the barrel so the bullet still has all the rifling it wants but the pressure drops much earlier and doesn't drive it supersonic.
@MugenSpe
@MugenSpe 4 жыл бұрын
I love my B&T APC9 SD😋 Great Video😉
@TheMrIVXX
@TheMrIVXX 5 жыл бұрын
Still going with the sp5 bc it has metal Glock mags I can leave loaded when I’m not using my pistol-braced, tri-lug mounted suppressor to 80s hip-fire, fend off the zombie hordes trying to steal my hybrid Camry.
@arieldanziger799
@arieldanziger799 5 жыл бұрын
Are you planning to review the APC45?
@ferebeefamily
@ferebeefamily 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@TheReal_JohnDoeSmith
@TheReal_JohnDoeSmith 5 жыл бұрын
Damn it man. I wanna shake some 9 Milli outta $2800 pistol. Always appreciate your videos and ever impressionable knowledge
@shoegum7362
@shoegum7362 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think between the APC9-SD to their SPC9-SD
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why I thought the APC/GHM guns used unique magazines, the TP9 never crossed my mind despite being a straight, double stack, double feed, polymer B&T magazine.... My GHM9 will use Glock and Sig magazines....if that G model ever comes in stock. In trying to give them my money and they don't even want it.
@jameskelly9711
@jameskelly9711 5 жыл бұрын
Heat signature is visible in several strings.... slight mirage effect.
@theslavsnob3229
@theslavsnob3229 5 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see how +p 9mm reacts
@jessewilliams3134
@jessewilliams3134 5 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see a balistic comparison in this with normal 124g and with the normal apc9 with a 380 to see if the claim it true
@petrkarv
@petrkarv 5 жыл бұрын
At that price point who is counting the spare change you save on ammo?
@erikforks8909
@erikforks8909 5 жыл бұрын
Petr123 paco I think he’s overplaying the saving money on ammo thing. It’s more for military/police with issued ammo and maybe a convenience thing for civilians...mostly coolness factor! Lol
@cz-bundy6896
@cz-bundy6896 5 жыл бұрын
I'll have to add it to my sub gun bucket list with a q honey badger, mp5sd, and a ww2 mp40
@india3033
@india3033 5 жыл бұрын
About time MAC (Tim)
@LoveLife-xy9ir
@LoveLife-xy9ir 5 жыл бұрын
That is 1 cool gun. If I lived in the US man Id get that. Its like the ssd
@Zhh566
@Zhh566 4 жыл бұрын
No MW comments?
@TheWallsofDis
@TheWallsofDis 5 жыл бұрын
You should get SilencerCo’s new QD mount. Shaved off all of that extra length
@neurotoksyn
@neurotoksyn 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I like to pretend that one day I'll have enough money to afford some of these guns. In the meantime I'll be over here with my Stribog renting an omega9k at the range.
@mattwalters6834
@mattwalters6834 5 жыл бұрын
Holland I’ve heard a lot of good things about the Stribog.
@neurotoksyn
@neurotoksyn 5 жыл бұрын
@@mattwalters6834 Mine has run flawlessly so far but there are a few things in the video MAC posted about it that concern me as well. Specifically the gen 2 bolt/buffer system; it hasn't been a problem yet so I've elected to leave it as is, but that gen 1 bolt does seem more reliable. Definitely a good purchase IMO, especially at the price point.
@bpalmer636
@bpalmer636 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mac, in the video you state that the APC9SD is designed to fire with or without the suppressor. Do you have this info straight from B&T? I have heard that the nut couldn't handle the pressure and it may damage the gun. I may just email B&T for clarification.
@SouthpawActual
@SouthpawActual 5 жыл бұрын
MAC, I can tell that this firearm is at the top of your list of favorites, I never heard you calling a firearm "baby" lmfao. Anyways, awesome video.
@ayushchoubey635
@ayushchoubey635 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it slows down the bullet, it probably never lets the projectile accelerate to the super sonic speeds
@defm1
@defm1 4 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought a design made to effectively suppress supersonic ammo for tactical purposes would turn into the perfect system for regular folks to quiet down noisy 115gr range ammo.
@ShrakeDown
@ShrakeDown 4 жыл бұрын
"That's a very very volumous can" 🤔🤣 (6:55)
@rap36case
@rap36case 3 ай бұрын
So whats the advantage when you can reload 147, 150, 158 grain?
@darrallipke8070
@darrallipke8070 5 жыл бұрын
147 fmj in 9mm with suppression works good, I've heard.
@rustyshackleford17
@rustyshackleford17 4 жыл бұрын
From my understanding, the 147s is where you start losing reliability with the integrally suppressed sub guns.
@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193
@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like metal or metal lined polymer aftermarket mags have a niche for these 9mm pcc’s
@130mMer5boc
@130mMer5boc 5 жыл бұрын
Crucial question unanswered Tim, Does it hip-fire eighties style with brace folded?
@alecklassen2737
@alecklassen2737 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Swiss just have to put holes in everything?
@sogerc1
@sogerc1 5 жыл бұрын
Why do people say that the SD "slows the bullet down"? That's not true, it doesn't allow the bullet to speed up but no slowing down is involved.
@lennykoss8777
@lennykoss8777 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the information and information. 💗💗
@nicl3265
@nicl3265 5 жыл бұрын
Got to love a good sd gun
@bench175
@bench175 2 жыл бұрын
Will it stabilize 147gr subsonic or will they be too slow?
@InkwellFoto
@InkwellFoto 5 жыл бұрын
The first B&T I purchased, but I used the Silencerco omega 9sd can because it was 4" shorter
@willsimmons9946
@willsimmons9946 5 жыл бұрын
InkwellFoto Omega 9SD ftw
@anonymousanonymous7752
@anonymousanonymous7752 5 жыл бұрын
Hello I just wanted to ask you if you have ever heard of the a-91. Its a bullpup ak that I haven't seen anyone do a review or tourcher test of. If you could I like to see you do a video of one.
@TheHippieGunner
@TheHippieGunner 5 жыл бұрын
I like to use a SOL suppresser on my CNN9, however I prefer the custom CDC builds for my FOX suppressors even though they don't produce the speeds that my NBC barrel does on a normal basis.
@timallen6035
@timallen6035 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of those firearms that while I find the concept and technology that goes into them, I don't want one. Each to their own.
@Jarrow13
@Jarrow13 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. For me personally it becomes a specialist firearm. The suppressor is solely for this B&T. Also most 147 gr ammo runs subsonic like CCI blazer 147 gr runs at about 950 fps through a suppressor (CCI blazer 147gr is affordable ammo. Can get things done much more affordably to make a PPC more quiet. If money wasn't an issue, I would love to get one, but I can't see spending that kind of MY OWN money for something when there are much more affordable alternatives where affordable 147 gr ammo resolves the super sonic issue.
@meangreen816
@meangreen816 5 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a comparison of the B&T SD vs the Innovative Arms Evo.
@Militaryarmschannel
@Militaryarmschannel 5 жыл бұрын
I can do that. :)
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 5 жыл бұрын
I would love the APC9 for less money. Like $1,500 without the fancy buffer system. But I guess that's essentially what the GHM9 is, I'm just worried that long receiver will be uncomfortable to shoot.
@willsimmons9946
@willsimmons9946 5 жыл бұрын
WC_2 Electric_Boogaloo GHM9 very comfortable to shoot, I own both, anything B&T is awesome
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 5 жыл бұрын
@@willsimmons9946 I'm worried the end of the reciever is going to exactly where my cheek is, and on top of that the stock (my default) will start where my beard is an pull hairs. (I run very short length of pulls, that's why I'm worried) I've been trying to get my hands on a GHM9 to hold, but no one can get one in locally.
@ryanmace8804
@ryanmace8804 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how I feel about integrally suppressed guns... 🤔 I really want a Honey Badger, but what am I supposed to do when the suppressor wears out? 🥺
@MyAdam4321
@MyAdam4321 4 жыл бұрын
This the apc9? It sucks so bad in MW
@ricks.1092
@ricks.1092 5 жыл бұрын
This gun would look awesome with the Magpul Zhukov stock on it. And you would probably get a much better cheek purchase on this pcc too. My Scorpion is formed 1 and have the Zhukov stock on it. I get a significant better cheek purchase (over the CZ stock) and the Scorpion just looks much better. Form and function for the Scorpion. My Scorpion is what I would grab and use in a Home setting. I also have a compact can on my Scorpion too. These type of set ups are perfect for Home environments.
@Zuercher
@Zuercher 4 жыл бұрын
This stock is ugly, it is much better with "Einschubschaft"
@cw7legionofpewrights596
@cw7legionofpewrights596 3 жыл бұрын
I want one just mags are expensive! Don’t they may a version with a Glock lower?
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