Top 5 best PCC's I've purchased!

[@s00-x2h]

1:25 Kalash USA KR-9 3:36 CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 6:08 B&T APC9 (SD version shown) 9:25 HK MP5 (SP5K PDW shown) 11:27 Sig MPX-K 17:02 *Favorite:* APC9

[@stevenmerlock9971]

Thanks, saved me time. Personally I go with Uzi: 1 gun shoots 4 calibers parts are simple, easy to source.

[@maximumcoverage5591]

@@stevenmerlock9971 Uzi over MP5??? Are you tripping?? Mp5 smokes the Uzi in ergonomics accuracy and quality. Uzi was top of the 2nd generation of sub guns. MP5 is top of the line of the current generation.

[@paleoph6168]

@@maximumcoverage5591 it's his opinion. Some people just prefer what others consider as the "lesser" option.

[@maximumcoverage5591]

@@paleoph6168 I like to hit what I aim at. The accuracy between a closed bolt and open bolt is night and day. If they weren't. We would all still be using open bolt guns. When was the last time a new open bolt sub gun was made??

[@paleoph6168]

@@maximumcoverage5591 that's what you like and that's good. Sure, closed bolt is superior, but @Steven Merlock isn't too concerned about that. In other words, please don't ridicule him for what he prefers. As for open bolt SMGs made these days, the closest I can think of is cloned MAC-11s.

[@MuricaFyea]

82nd airborne vet here. I don’t normally slow down to talk to a leg but I’ll make an exception for you guys. Love the vids keep it up.

[@honzabalak3462]

Czech viewer here: the Scorpion is mostly used by Prague Castle guard and special forces. Regular military and active reserve don't use SMGs all that much. They mostly have CZ 805, CZ Bren 2 and Vz.58.

[@warel5730]

As far as I know, helicopter (Mi-17.1) pilots have those as back-ups

[@trashcompactorYT]

You guys still use VZ58s? That's cool af

[@warel5730]

@@trashcompactorYT as far as I know, currently, only bootcamp training and active reserves put up with it, the rest either has Bren 2, or they are about to have and their Bren 805 are about to move to the reserves

[@michalbarsfajny4268]

@@trashcompactorYT slovak army use only vz. 58. No newer rifle in our inventory. Kind of sad

[@96kylar]

I want a VZ58,.. bad.

[@gordythomas1693]

I tested most of the above listed guns and went with an MPX with a timiney trigger and it's supressed. It shoots really fast and I haven't had any problems with feeding no matter what ammo I put in it. I did follow your remarks on the first gen and found Sig had listened to you and fixed it. Thanks for your great videos

[@dirtsailoroff-road5580]

my favorite is the AK-V 9 from PSA. I love it.

[@walthercreed6134]

Proud owner of a B&T APC 9 SD, I deeply love it !!! Just played with it yesterday and invited some friends from the shooting range to test it .... everybody felt in love with it ... 180 bullets were shot ... it was a great day ^^ thanks for the video dude !

[@alfredocarpaneto5976]

PSA AR-V 9 is a great option, uses CZ mags, and is an AR from the trigger back. Hard to get right now but well priced for what you get.

[@SJ-hy8jn]

I love MAC. Unbiased, truthful reviews without a bunch of varying “attitude” thrown around. Thanks! Be safe!

[@ricks.1092]

I've found the best mags for the CZ Scorpion, is Magpul's...because they drop out of the mag well. When you engage the mag release. I should note, I have 12 Magpul's and all mags drop freely. But only tried these magazines in my Scorpion. Perhaps other Scorpion owners that use Magpul can chime in on their accounts using Magpul's. Other mags do work well, just don't always drop freely.

[@Duwurf]

I second this motion. Magpul mags are awesome. Sooo easy to load. Although CZ mags, 30 and 20 rds, drop out no problem from mine as well I prefer magpul. They are just better. And magpul magazine release goes great with that. Although I am not sure what great aftermarket support for the Evo he was on about. There's only a handful of options, I know of only one replacement trigger group... I won't even compare it to AR9 aftermarket, that would just be cruel.

[@jimbienkowski7857]

Bought my Scorpion in 2016. Very happy with it. Everyone loves shooting it.

[@derekallgood9496]

it’s kinda crazy that a submachine gun made in the 60’s is still the mark to beat for guns made today.

[@jairopavon11]

Making a well designed gun is very difficult almost like hitting the lottery

[@randomactsofriding4850]

The crazy part is we haven’t made them affordable yet

[@Ufos4dahoes]

1911 cough cough🙄

[@CharlieMikeNS]

@@randomactsofriding4850 Is that crazy? Maybe quality designs are difficult to make cheaply without compromising on quality. Roller delayed designs also require very high precision manufacturing. That's not cheap.

[@randomactsofriding4850]

@@CharlieMikeNS manufacturing cost can be lowered buying streamlining the process and designing a way to successfully mass produce. I am sure it’s possible but doubt it would be a more lucrative then what they are currently doing which is low volume and high price. The demand is here if they can make a mp5 for 1200 I’m sure they would sell a ton. If they can make their cost of production lower they can take the same profit otherwise they may take less profit yet have more happy customers.

[@CzechoslovakGunStories]

what I like about this channel is that you not only make 5 best or 5 worst but you do both.... that looks very balanced to me - you are not trying to catch attention by presenting only positive or negative reviews based on what your audience like but you do both so anyone can see what makes sense for you, what does not, what is a lemon, but you also prove that the same product from the same manufacturer - just a newer version can be absolutely great... thanks for that :)

[@jessicasimp4459]

My favorite 9 mm PCC will always be the MP5 N with the fixed stock because she’s beautiful in that configuration and the fixed stock in my opinion makes her look like she’s wearing a dress.

[@ReverendMeat51]

The B&T side folder is up there too, just get that A3 collapsible away from me

[@ChipPrints]

I bought my scorpion just before the pandemic for around 800 bucks. I fell in love with it. It now sits beside the bed braced, with a 9mm can. I plan to sbr it some day.

[@MartyBugg]

CMMG Banshee: insert Rodney Dangerfield "I get no respect" joke here.

[@guytech7310]

Well those are the PCC Mac owns, I presume if he had the Banshee or could borrow one, he would have included it. Just be happy that Mac had 5 PCCs to show & review.

[@S.-.V]

Uh.... Michael Scott said that.... 😂

[@ericbergfield6451]

I was wondering where the CMMG was too....

[@theoneand0nly874]

The thumbnail to this video looks like Asian porn

[@danielpadilla5564]

Love my Banshee worth every penny

[@CalmBeforeTheStorm76]

After being a rabid Evo 3 S1 shooter for years, I've recently started to question its supremacy. Don't get me wrong- It's a spectacular combination of performance and value, with accuracy that, to this day, after almost 5 years of ownership, still leaves me jaw dropped. However, after watching this video... and doing some research, I was totally sold on the B&T APC9 Pro... After finally putting my hands on one, I have to say, it lives up to every claim made on this channel. Handling it has made me realize that the Swiss are indeed, the top firearms manufacturers in the world. The tolerances, fit and finish are literally second to none. I never imagined that any modern PCC would knock the SP5/MP5 off its throne... But, I think the APC9 Pro does. Of course, I'd be lying if I said the price point of both the gun and its accessories weren't eye opening (to say the least). Still, it is a solid case of "you get what you pay for" "buy once; cry once", etc. Recently I've heard you using the phrase "heirloom piece" or "heirloom quality" in evaluating different firearms. The APC9 Pro is, without a doubt, an "Heirloom piece" that is worthy of a high end collection.

[@bap2139]

I still don't understand why sig discontinued the 8" mpx variant. It is very accurate and the extra few inches of barrel length is great for balance. Best PCC IMO!!

[@austin0351]

Got the KR9 and the MPX-k, MPX I had to send back to sig for ejection issues, go figure it came back right when 9mm became gold and I've put less than 500 more rounds through her. Been fully reliable though, which is a huge jump from the sometimes multiple stovepipes and double feeds per mag she was doing before. KR9 has been awesome but again, limited ammo

[@nateroberts235]

Tim: picks the KP9 over the AK-V for its technical accuracy and lack of features. Also Tim: eliminates the KP9 as a favorite cause it doesn't have the AK-V controls and features 🧐

[@cschaeff]

Kalashnikov paid more evidently. The customer service of PSA alone. Shit they made a MAC bracket named after him since he identified an early issue. It accepts EVO mags. They make a cheap alternative. Not to mention compared to the KP9 unless you’re looking for an exact clone it is way above and beyond. I have over a 1,000 rounds through both and it’s no comparison

[@tangoxrayniner5659]

The AK-V is just better, its an amazing little firearm.

[@davidfrye7713]

Exactly what I was thinking. Not sure what MAC is thinking? I think he misnamed this video.

[@MrBerbenson]

I understand his position. The KP9 fills the itch for the collector, but other guns offer more modern features such as the AK-V. That being said, I like my KP9 as well but would choose a different gun entirely if I desired more modern features.

[@Dizzlestick]

@@MrBerbenson I grabbed a KP9 solely so I could say "I have a 9mm AK" lol. Now I need to find a replacement for the factory trigger cuz its straight poo

[@robertnelson1098]

Thank YOU MAC for your hard work and your tireless work...We enjoy your videos and your comments ; advice.... Thank YOU again...... From North East Georgia Mountains......

[@TylerO_O.]

I'm a poor. Maybe I'll get a scorpion someday. To have them all and that many suppressors is a dream. Well until you need ammo

[@96kylar]

Absolutely love both my evos.

[@CrazyWella]

If you really want a pcc, check out the Extar EP9. It's $400 plus shipping.

[@jolebole-yt]

The Scorpion is the cheapest of the bunch here... you dont even wanna know how much the Swiss charge for the BTC

[@CrazyWella]

@@jolebole-yt of the models he has shown here it is the cheapest. Cheapest I've found is the Extar Ep9 @ a whopping $400 plus shipping. I have and I'm quite fond of it. I won't spend $1k on a gun that isn't a large caliber.

[@jolebole-yt]

@@CrazyWella totally agree. Some companies have made the pcc carbines too big and too heavy for a 9mm. Its its big and heavy they rifle caliber is for me. Theres a reason CZ made the Scorpion all from polymer - lightweight pcc

[@evilways1227]

Just one correction: that's the KP-9, not the KR-9. The KR-9 has the rifle length (16 inch) barrel, whereas this (the KP-9) has the 9.25 inch barrel. You can get it with the triangle stock from the factory (KP-9 SBR), or add it as a separate item (it is not an SBR until then). And it's the clone of the Vityaz-SN (updated version of the Vityaz). it's very nice, particularly if you are already at least somewhat familiar with the AK platform. KUSA also has a "gas tube" replacement with a charging handle so you can do the HK slap if you want. My only complaint is that it doesn't have bolt hold-open on the last round, though I'd also mention the mags are fairly expensive.

[@AlexBaldwin440]

I love my scorpion, but I have been looking at a B&T GHM9 compact. The APC9 is just a little out of my price range. Awesome vid Tim

[@emkivi82]

I have had a handful of pcc's from scorpion, mpx, sub2k, ghm9, mp5, and even an uzi. But I will say the B&T is my absolute favorite followed by the scorpion. It is expensive but I will say very well worth the money

[@floridaman727]

Just picked up the APC45 Pro. Absolutely worth it

[@HardHeadMilitary]

Same here. Scorpion Evo 1 in fde and looking for a B&T

[@tambrody2684]

Personally I’m going for the SP5k or LWRCI 45 for that price point

[@tambrody2684]

LWRCI 45 shoots like a dream but I’m too poor to spend that kind of money on a gun lmao

[@johnq.public5911]

I appreciate the "ring" when the bullet hits the target. It lets me know some of its accuracy.

[@406MountainMan]

MAC: $wiss B&T APC 9 Me and my budget: Ruger PC Carbine 9mm

[@reignick1133]

hey, The Ruger PC Carbine and PC charger are great little guns, simple, reliable decently accurate, cost effective and they have a growing aftermarket. There's a lot to love there. Decades ago I went with the calico M950 pistol ( now the "Liberty" pistol which contrary to popular belief if you read the manual and follow the operating instructions presented within? It's pretty darn good.) and I am rocking a B&T TP9. The market is growing and we've got good choices

[@406MountainMan]

@@reignick1133 I bought the very first PC Carbine that my local academy sports received. I've had it for several years, and i love it. It suits my needs.

[@reignick1133]

@@406MountainMan Rock out, that's a gun that's rightfully seeing good aftermarket support. I got to admit it is very tempting from what I have seen and shot of it.

[@1978garfield]

I wish they had not added the expense of the removable takedown barrel. Seems like there should be something on the market above the Hi Point but cheaper than the Ruger.

[@reignick1133]

@@1978garfield Agreed on the price point but the takedown barrel make cleaning & storage a bit easier, that and it opens up the aftermarket to crank out barrel length / threaded or crowned options.

[@paybacksabitchFMJM]

I own the KP-9 and the SP-5. I converted both of them to post-samples for my business in Las Vegas. They are BY FAR the two biggest crowd-pleasers out of all my sub-guns.

[@wincav]

Very enjoyable video. I struggled with which PCC to get, HK SP5 8” or the B&T APC9 Pro. I went back & forth (still do) but ended up getting the HK. Perhaps the nostalgia got the best of me.

[@joshclark5447]

I got one too the other day.. It’s always been my favorite gun.

[@wincav]

@@joshclark5447 You will enjoy a piece of history. 👍

[@KootvanderMerwe]

From South Africa , really appreciate your very informative programs

[@Wingnut53]

Ironically, I've had the opposite experience you've had. My Kr9 has had 2 catastrophic failures requiring repair and parts replacement and my stribog A1 gen 2 has yet to have a malfunction even with the jamtastic aluminum cased ammo

[@flugel6856]

If you don't mind what happened with your kr9? I'm asking so I can keep an eye on my kp9.

[@Wingnut53]

@@flugel6856 Of course. First failure was 3 rounds in to first range trip. The front portion of the bolt where you'd have a piston in a true AK was smashing into the interior of the faux gas tube so bad that it jammed in there and took all my strength to remove. Had to be sent back to KUSA for repair and they replaced several parts involved. A bit later the recoil spring (which I believe was one of the replaced parts) straight exploded at the range. Haven't had any problems since replacing the spring but I honestly haven't shot it whole lot since. I had hoped to use it as home defense/truck gun but now I'm not sure how much faith I have in it. Hopefully you have better luck with yours!

[@flugel6856]

@@Wingnut53 thank you I appreciate it. Not many rounds through mine but I haven't had any failures in about 650 ish rounds. anyway I hope that's the last of the problems with your rifle.

[@mrgrump2534]

Are u using the curved mags for the bog

[@neurotoksyn]

Stopping the video before Tim picks his #1: It'll be the B&T citing the swiss quality. Knew it. Tim is a B&T fan, he probably has at least 1 of every item they've ever produced. For good reason; the APC9 is a great firearm.

[@jager6863]

WHAT - No B&T TP9 ??? At 3.5 lbs with a rotating barrel, I think its superior to the SP5K and its cheaper (but still expensive) too. I mean "Come on Man", you can even get a belt holster for it!!! Great video Tim, thanks for sharing.

[@benl308]

The ergos are incredibly weird

[@drfreedom1192]

I’m certainly an “AR guy”. But I absolutely love the ak-v. The weapon is unbelievably accurate. It has low recoil. The mag capacity and reliability. Low maintenance. Feels robust and has shown no ware after thousands of rounds. It has become a fully built truck gun for me. Oh, and a Franklin armory trigger adds a whole new aspect at the third position. Absolute win for palmetto, an American company.

[@toddfeltman3748]

I was watching a series of You Tube firearms-related commercials, and lo and behold, Mac crowbarred a short video in there about his Top 5 best PCC's... ;)

[@hotdognobun]

My top 5 PCC i’ve owned: 1. H 2. K 3. M 4. P 5. 5

[@pilotguy1141]

I love the Ruger PC charger no issues thus far and it takes Glock mags

[@jasonhonan8215]

I've got the carbine not the charger and I love it, great little gun

[@samuelwatkins5145]

Yup MAC seems to hate on it on his video, pretty sad. Just picked my charger up for $655 for the price it is the absolute best. It's the working man's PCC

[@samuelwatkins5145]

@John Doe That is a steal! I have both and love them, payed $420 from buds in early 2019 and I was very happy. After getting the charger it's easy to forget about the carbine though : )

[@emc2614]

@@samuelwatkins5145 I was afraid of that...I own the carbine, and would love to get the charger, but I don't want the carbine to end up,in the closet ignored afterwards.

[@theoneand0nly874]

The thumbnail to this video looks like Asian porn,

[@slimdog1776]

Great Vid MAC! I could watch comparisons for PCC’s all day long and not get bored. Keep up the good work my man.

[@matthewfransen9447]

I really enjoy your content! I understand needing help with youtube strangling gun channels, but 1/4 of the video is commercials.

[@BigTex1300]

just like the AR.. started in 1957. it still can't be beat.. still using it..

[@God_of_Crabs]

I love that when I'm in the market for PCCs all of these great channels decide to make pcc videos. IV8888 just made one and now MAC? Radical

[@unglued94ta]

Biggest difference is the Stribog. Mac strongly dislikes it. Iv8888 loves it.

[@sowhats.6100]

B&T SCW is my choice, even the civi version (damn the nfa). Unlike H&K, B&T doesn't look down on American civilians and gives us what we want without waiting years for them to come around. Great video Tim, thanks.

[@jamesdoane9235]

After watching yours, and others vids on the Palmetto armory so AKV I bought the rifle version with the tube on the end of the barrel. I love that thing thanks for your work

[@gagefixeseverything]

The Kalashnikov USA guns are excellent quality. I shot one of their test 9mm machine guns ALOT. Before I got it, it had 85k rounds.... Documented... Hitting 100yrds in semi auto with the factory irons after shooting full auto was effortless.

[@dalton2479]

I drive by CZ’s Kansas City, Kansas factory almost everyday on my way to work

[@DGTHRE]

Awesome, is it big?

[@dalton2479]

@@DGTHRE it’s pretty good size, it has some of their corporate offices in there too.

[@berthoward2873]

I agree with your choice. I bought a B&T APC 10 pro from you guys! It is amazing!

[@showtime2629]

Totally should have trolled everyone an announced the Hipoint carbine as the winner.

[@panzerabwerkanone]

Well when you can buy a dozen High Point carbines and arm your entire neighborhood when SHTF for the price of just one of some of these then yes!

[@actionjksn]

For the price the high point is not a bad little gun. If they would just make a double stack magazine version I think it would become very popular.

[@navyvet886]

😂😂😂

[@ReverendMeat51]

@@actionjksn For real. Hi point magazines are not good, if they made one that took glock, beretta, whatever mags that'd be sweet

[@brianroberts5740]

I have the TS995 1st gen. Its not bad. I've probably ran 750 to 1000 rounds through it. Had one, ZONE FTF. Failure to Fire. Actually it was more of a squib fire. The primer fired, but not the propellant. The bullet got about half way down the barrel and stopped. Had to use a barrel cleaning rod to get it out

[@alexglenn2122]

The CZ's blow out problem seems to be with Brazer Brass...For those that have one and are curious. Worth exploring further though

[@americanjetset5010]

I've put near 1k Blazer Brass 147 through my Scorpion suppressed with no issues, other than it being supersonic. Sample size of 1, but felt worth mentioning.

[@alexglenn2122]

@@americanjetset5010 I hear you. Where I'm getting this from, is the Scorpion subreddit. I own one, and visited the site frequently for upgrades, and other insights of ownenership. One thing that came up consistently when new owners asked for tips, were other users referencing previous posts of people who had the blow outs, and a consistent thread was that they were using Blazer brass at the time it happened. However, I think it was always with 115gr and/or 124gr.

[@koala83r72]

"Why is this happening? This weapon was designed as a submachine gun, and in full auto format, there’s a disconnector to prevent the weapon from firing out of battery either as a result of bolt bounce or the bolt not closing fast enough before the hammer is ready to fall again. In the U.S., the disconnector is considered a machine gun part and must be omitted from the civilian Scorpion design. Thus, there is nothing stopping the weapon from firing out of battery in certain circumstances. I wish they had come up with another way to prevent it from firing out of battery, but as this seems to be a rare and non-life-threatening issue…" ~ Tuohy, A. 2018, April 17. CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S1 9mm Pistol. Gun Reviews, Gun Video. www.omahaoutdoors.com/blog/review-video-cz-scorpion-evo-3-s1-9mm-pistol/

[@timallen6035]

I want a AKV9 due to it's price point. It's a close enough clone for my tastes and where I live it's unique enough to fill my don't want to be like everybody else mentality.

[@reignick1133]

The mags are cheaper, more readily available and of good quality in PSA's AKV. There's reason enough to choose that platform, nevermind it's very reliable since the updates and just shoots great.

[@foxxoboxxo1611]

I'm still not trusting it as It lacks an Oob safety and if something happens: That gun is toast. I'm sticking to kusa when I get a 9mm ak but maybe later, but I'd even still test the cugir draco9s as atleast that has oob safety with the akv/evo mag compability before getting an AKV

[@streamylc]

this is the most informative and concise top 5 [gun] video I've ever seen

[@MrGoryGlory]

Can’t believe the PSA AKV didn’t make it on your list Tim, even after they added the MAC bracket and everything haha

[@m118lr]

..might just show he can’t be bought..?

[@TheSonsOfSimon]

I like the look of the Tailhook brace for the Scorpion. 🔥

[@ckkevin9620]

Have you never tried/owned a CMMG Banshee? It's definitely one of my favorites. Hard for me to pick a favorite though between my MPX, SP5, and Banshee.

[@kennethwilson7315]

Factoring in price and mainly coming from a utilitarian perspective, my 3 would be the Ruger PC Charger, PSA AK-V, and the CMMG Banshee. The APC9 and MPX just don’t justify their cost compared to the Banshee. For cool factor, my money would go for a quality MP5 clone. I really liked the Zenith I shot. I’m really interested in seeing the PSA MP5 clone in the future and imagine the PTR is good quality as well. Going all the way back to the absolute cheap end of the spectrum, I guess a Hi-Point carbine would be the absolute bottom tier of practical PCC that’s worth the money. An honorable mention could go to just about any blowback AR-9 that’s reliable yet budget friendly.

[@doctorsorder414]

Rocking with the PSA AKV. Hasn't failed me yet.

[@rphash49]

Im over 10,000 rds with my AKV. has been flawless with PSA mags and is stupid accurate up to 50yds

[@Fightosaurus]

PSA AR9 here, equally pleased. Locking systems are overrated for 9mm.

[@tacticaltruth6Actual]

" Rocking with the PSA AKV. Hasn't failed me yet. " Yes...it has. It is a communist weapon made by commies for commies. Now the MP5, there is a great American iconic weapon!😂

[@JesusisLORD77778]

@@AKking530 what was broken on your 103?

[@theoneand0nly874]

The thumbnail to this video looks like Asian porn g

[@SlimRhyno]

Thank you! I loved every part of this video... especially your conclusion. Ergonomics matter people, and no matter how buttery smooth and reliable and iconic the MP5 platform is, it is objectively less operator-friendly than the B&T APC9. Thank you, Mac, for your sane, thoughtful wisdom. 🤙

[@zgennaro]

Having shot them all except the Russian one, I prefer the CMMG banshee. Although the MP5 recoil is still the best IMO.

[@02BLACKTAWS6]

Sure would love one of those. Any of those, in fact. Massachusetts has turned so far left they've done a full 180. We're going backwards, not forwards.

[@1985Jleezy]

This was like watching the bachelor: “PCC” edition

[@lloydwright9464]

My vote goes for the Scorpion, cause that's what I could afford and that's what I have. It is a great weapon and very accurate. Everyone that has shot it loves it. We can't all afford most of these weapons. I have a knock off G3, that's as close as I can get to an H&K. I have always loved the MP5. I got to shoot one in the early 90's at the Police Academy, suppressed and without the suppresser.

[@kulasnikov3875]

“It’s just the 1960s technology gun” 1911: “LOL”

[@googlechicken]

Brigade BM9 , is a great little pistol. I have 5.5 inch barrel version and dropped a Fostech binary trigger in it and it is a blast to shoot. A good quality,100% made in the US of A, occ

[@TylerJames-gf8ms]

No CMMG Banshee 300 9mm?

[@navyvet886]

👏🏾

[@carlrobinson8177]

I love the AR platform nevertheless the Kalashnikov KP-9 to me is the best and most under rated, it eats any and everything one feeds it. I’ve shot the PSA AKV and it’s another Awesome gun, but when it comes to the PCC 9mm, Kalashnikov USA KR-9 all the way. I own both the KR / KP-9 my favorites when it comes to 9mm PCC. Great video thanks for sharing.

[@1.forestrunner]

Would have been nice to list the prices including the modifications you did to some. For many of us the price is an important factor to make a decision.

[@guytech7310]

I am sure the prices have gone up considerably since Mac bought them. Most firearms have increased by 40% or more in 2020. Another issue is getting them as they are pretty much sold out and probably have a 6 month backorder log.

[@stevem3605]

Not for Tim🙄

[@kentuckykalash4019]

Love my KR9. The Vityaz SN is literally one of my dream guns. I’m so glad that KUSA manufactures them.

[@mrpibb7781]

For what it's worth, I joined BDU right around November as I figured the first month didn't cost much and if I could find some ammo it'd be well worth the subsequent membership fee. I unsubscribed a month later without making a single purchase as they never had the ammo I was looking for in stock.

[@alexanderstamatouras4603]

Thank you for your service.

[@Sim_ulation7]

I love my Cmmg banshee 5' 9mm glock mag that is my favorite gun that I own my mom tried it and wants one now to but she cant find one in stock

[@boomerisadog3899]

I keep hoping they'll make one that takes Scorpion mags... Maybe, one day.

[@memesurrectionist5112]

I love my MPX GEN 2 with the 8”barrel. No problems with accuracy, but I’m not running it suppressed. Love my MP5, even though it feels a little outdated. But in all honesty, my favorite PCC that I own is my Kriss Vector Gen 2. Lightweight, ergonomics are great except for the safety placement. But it shoots amazingly smooth.

[@cheyenneobregon184]

That’s great to hear, I just put a kriss vector SDP enhanced with extended forward rail on layaway and haven’t seen recent reviews on the platform/people like them or if they review them they don’t do a good job explaining why

[@memesurrectionist5112]

@@cheyenneobregon184 I bought the SDP Gen 2 just because it was the only one available at the time. I put the folding stock adapter and an SB Tactical SBA3 brace on it. I have plans on filling out a form 1 to make it an SBR. MAC is right, somewhat. I think it feels great holding it the way it is, but it is better with a vertical fore grip, thus the form 1. The gun almost feels like it drops when you shoot it compared to most recoil impulses going up and back. It is SO EASY to hit follow up shots because of it. I have 800 rounds exactly through mine. Did the initial cleaning which is easier than any PCC I own. ZERO FAILURES. I love mine. Even better than my MP5, and that’s saying a lot. I hope you get a great gun like I did.

[@cheyenneobregon184]

@@memesurrectionist5112 dude thank you so much! Also last question are you running Glock 33 RD mags or the kriss vector extended ones?

[@memesurrectionist5112]

@@cheyenneobregon184 Glock mags, Pro Mag mags also. Like I said, zero failures. I’ve had it about 1 year. It came with a $30 coupon in the box. I used it to get the 6-slot pic rails for the sides. Had to spend $50 so I got an extractor just in case. Just got them today. They gave me another 15% coupon, I don’t remember if it was for registering the gun with them or signing up for emails. If you research Krytac they have awesome steel accessories for the Kriss Vector Airsoft guns that are high quality for firearms. Awesome grips, breachers, shrouds. Good luck.

[@cheyenneobregon184]

@@memesurrectionist5112 thanks brother!

[@CoordinatedCarry]

I was hoping to see the Beretta CX4 Storm here, but with all the product plugs I’m going back to Nutnfancy.

[@fabionegri4855]

have to say only 2 really interesting ones are not available in my country cause 9x19 is only for rifles , MPX and ak9, B&T and CZ are sold in 9x21 but priced to the roof for pistol caliber guns . in italy probably best choice is an AR9 , cz is the best seller but at more than 2k $, mpx is only in 16" version and an unicorn cause 9x19 ammo basically exixts only on paper. If in US MPX no doubt , Sig quality, great engineering

[@BertShackleford]

Thoughts on the: •B&T GHM9 Gen 2? •LWRC SMG .45? •CMMG Banshee? •Any IWI variant? •Aero Precision's forthcoming PCC (I know you have insider information on it. Only a select few do and I presume you are one of them)? Stay classy my friend.

[@patrickcreamer9947]

Looking got the same info

[@davidb9323]

LWRC is trash, look at GT’s video on it.

[@brandonboyd5348]

I still like the AK-V over the "legit" Kalash ones. Bolt hold open, bolt release button, can bumpfire it like crazy, usually under $1k, 'Murican, plus they even named their "fix" for it, after MAC. The only thing I don't like about it, is the weight, but at least it's super over-built.

[@nostep8058]

His list: Vityaz Scorpion Apc 9 Sp5k Mpx

[@tacticaltruth6Actual]

My list: MP5SD MP5K MP5A3 MP5A2 Did I mention the MP5? Oh yeah, SIG MPX

[@mikea.6608]

@@tacticaltruth6Actual and above all those. The Hi-Point 995

[@tacticaltruth6Actual]

@@mikea.6608 "The Hi-Point 995" Immediately wash you mouth out with soap for even mentioning the "H*-P***T" in the same breath as the MP5.😂

[@tacomas9602]

@@tacticaltruth6Actual the high point is a very reliable gun and I believe they are extremely accurate. I can hit a man-sized Target with one in 9 mm at 100 yd consistently

[@brettb4452]

Angstadt Mdp-9. Angstadt is so overlooked. The upper on the mdp 9 uses and mp5 barrel, roller delayed blowback, and tri lug barrel

[@killervztwogaming5796]

i post this on every vid about the mpx you post. m13.5x1lh tightens down at the start of the threads not the shoulder. thats why when you used that taper adapter (that sig told you not to use) screwed up your accuraccy. YOU DO NOT NEED TO REPLACE THE MPX BARREL TO PROPERLY SUPPRESS IT!!!!

[@Andrew-ql1cz]

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[@kenhelmers2603]

All five are nice. Thanks MAC

[@Jgriffin0808081]

Id pick a Cmmg banshee mk10 over all of these guns

[@perseusrex614]

nice vid, looks like correct choices for the top 2!

[@GenericBrandDan]

It's PCCs gone wild!

[@mak529]

Picking up a Kirss Vector G2 next week. Yes, I know it's not highly rated, but a cool weapon never the less!

[@eyenowrite885]

Brugger and thomet Apc9!!!!

[@tomarthur4541]

I own a APC9 Pro....it is absolutely top notch!

[@blkrob55]

I really didn’t like the way the scorpion looked at first but it’s growing on me now as well as CZ in general. They make really nice handguns.

[@wilsoncombat1341]

Totally agree the B&T is on another level of quality easily the best pcc out there

[@theslavsnob3229]

The MPX needing extra money to run suppressed is unacceptable at an already premium price

[@MrBerbenson]

As far as I'm aware SIG chose to use a tapered barrel to optimize use with their own suppressor. Makes sense from their perspective, but inconvenient for the civilian who probably doesn't want to buy a special suppressor for 1 gun.

[@keithallardice6139]

Kinda surprised by the result but I totally get your reasons and respect them - interesting final 5 though!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

10mm Banshee ? 😢 good choices Godspeed Tim

[@rhubarbpie2027]

Was looking for this as well. Once the industry catches up with demand, I'll be getting a 10mm Banshee.

[@wineguy04]

I was finally able to get one. It's a freaking amazing shooter.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@Michael Johnson how does it do with heavy loads?

[@mohawk3371]

For practical purposes the banshee would be my choice, followed by the Vytiaz clone, and the Evo. The Banshee has identical ergos, and parts commonality with with the m16/m4/AR15 family, Glock, or modified AR mags, softer shooting than any blowback gun, and reliable. For the collectors I understand the attraction of B&T and H&K guns. The MPX, like most things Sig makes nowdays is hot garbage.

[@derekmclv]

@@mohawk3371 The new SGM 10mm 30 rounders run 100% and are steel reinforced.

[@cadian122]

I agree with your assessment mac.. The B&T APC is the heir to the Throne of the Sub Gun crown from the MP5... And B&T APC rifles will likely replace the legendary Sig 550 series rifles in Swiss service eventually

[@colejohnston6386]

Anyone else surprised with how he ranked the Scorpion? He used to have one that was heavily modded!

[@1TDECK]

Not really, he does this with most of his top picks sooner or later. The gun industry must love him for this.

[@tapantera]

Owner of a lower dollar product of B&T. Quality is impressive to me as a novice. Different level.

[@Mrgunsngear]

need an APC now...

[@iandewolf9129]

Just got mine.

[@panzerabwerkanone]

M-113 or BMP?

[@mattwalters6834]

@@iandewolf9129 how much, how do you like it and how’s the recoil?

[@iandewolf9129]

@@mattwalters6834 I paid $2200 for it. I got the APC9 Pro in the pistol configuration which I then form 1 SBR'd. It shoots like a dream.

[@mattwalters6834]

@@teddyfresh9605 lol, good one

[@sammyG1745]

I love my s&w m&p fpc $599 Lol accuracy, conceal ability, reliability, all there. IT FOLDS😍

[@jakobweber1874]

A want a akv9 so bad but impossible to get from PSA

[@Throatwobbler_Mangrove]

Check the website at 4pm est. I spent a year looking for one until I found out that's when they post them for sale to the website, then it only took me a week to find one with the ALG trigger (worth the upgrade).

[@dirtsailoroff-road5580]

I was able to get one about a month ago. check their website around 2pm to 4pm Eastern standard time monday through friday and if you find it buy it. its 1000 dollars. their notify me system doesn't work so you have to keep checking.

[@jakobweber1874]

@@dirtsailoroff-road5580 @Hunter Swain you guys are saviors I been looking randomly with no notifications but set up for email for about 7 months. 4pm refreshed page now I own 1

[@dirtsailoroff-road5580]

@@jakobweber1874 I went through the same thing! I'd buy some mags too while they're cheap. if you're going to PSA to pick it up, be prepared to wait awhile. they're checkout system takes forever and they wont really tell you when its avalible for pickup either. just wait a week and stop in.

[@jakobweber1874]

@@Throatwobbler_Mangrove they didn't have one with the alg trigger what is the pros of the alg over stock

[@randomemail3936]

If the Mp5 had better ergos and lrbho it would be untouchable. The roller delayed system and ultra light K models are phenomenal.

[@ConservativeWolf]

Here's a great video idea Tim. There are a lot of blue collar people out here who can't afford a 2k+ B&T and you say the Stribog isn't a good gun. What are 5 good pcc's most people can afford in the range of under 2 grand?

[@Nikko_Suave]

The kp9 is $1k on their website. It does take 2 to 3 weeks to get to your FFL when you order it that way.

[@williamflowers9435]

There’s a lot of channels doing budget guns. It’s nice to see some of the stuff I can’t afford. That said... a budget gun series is a good idea 💡

[@jason200912]

mpx, scorpion, zenith mp5 used, PSA ar9, PSA akv. That's basically it, there's not a lot of sub guns to even choose from to start out with since a rifle caliber braced pistol is just basically better in every category except silencers.

[@tteot1wph]

Scorpion is best budget PCC. If you’re REALLY on a budget, look at the Extar EP9

[@sgtjeger4835]

Enjoy the shows. Thank you

[@brandongoldthwaite8100]

Not too surprising, but this could also be the top 5 most expensive pccs on the market list.

[@davidgraflex2065]

There is only two cheap pcc

[@davidfrye7713]

There are more expensive PCCs on the market than a number of those, CMMG Banshee to name just one.

[@benjaminbrown1179]

Gotta say..... I've been watching everyone for their existence on KZbin, and this is the most informative, honest, gun loving channel I've found. Pure American Patriotism!!!!!

[@pimpovic2]

No less than 4 adverts/commercials in this video. It's getting pretty annoying that every video is this way lately.

[@inferninx]

Well that’s what happens when you’re sponsored and getting paid to mention something. They have to make money to keep this channel going.

[@pimpovic2]

@@inferninx it's become robotic.

[@williamflowers9435]

The cost of everything is up and people have less money to spend. Meanwhile Big Censorship gets worse. The Sword of Bidencles is always hanging above every firearms channel looking for an excuse for an account strike or deplatforming. Some moron can make money playing video games or doing skits on KZbin but gun channels get nothing.

[@TiPeteux]

Sponsorblock, it will change your KZbin experience!

[@prestondiver730]

@@TiPeteux how do you do that?

[@bobbymalcich63]

THANKS FOR THE GOOD VIDEO TIM!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!