B8.5 Audi S4 APR Stage 2+ Dual Pulley

[@doggiefresh241]

Was that 3 generation of men there. Son dad and grandpa

[@TylerKicera]

Hilos K Jackson you bet it is! These two are a huge part of the racing I do...we spend a lot of time together in the shop and at the track.

[@doggiefresh241]

@@TylerKicera cool. Was nice seeing that. Cool car. Thinking on getting this or rs4

[@TylerKicera]

Thanks! IMO, It depends what your'e after. The RS4 will quickly become a classic and something worth collecting in the future. However, the B8+ S4 stock is just as quick and has a lot more potential for power mods...probably won't be something most people hang on to long term though (that said, this one is never leaving my collection)

[@TexasAggies2424]

Tyler Kicera great looking car! What year model is it? Wondering what a good deal, $ wise, would be on a used S4.

[@Dickfuck420]

You need 3 generations of men to take off the bumper

[@scottcooneymusic6736]

Wow! 3.5 seconds...that's SICK!

[@louisolivierfortin]

My stage 1 (no pulley upgrade) B8,5 S4 does 3,7 0-60 and 9,6 0-100. So yeah they are sick even without pulley upgrades!

[@scalways]

I see you have addressed the cooling issue in other comments but it really is fairly necessary. The ECU will pull timing when it gets too hot. I'm stage 2 single pulley and got the heat exchanger right away at stage 1. I've done several pulls and digs with dual pulley 8.5s. I've beat them every time. We determined the only reason is their ECUs were pulling power. All other mods were similar temp the first time was 75f and the second day we did it was mid 80s. Anyway nice job we have the same color! Cheers 🍻

[@kenflos5578]

nicee’! Here in BC Canada, our stage 1 ecu/tcu 91 oct tune with cold air intake does 0-60mph in 3.9 secs. quarter mile in 12.1 secs. Stage 2 Dual pulley is a monster!!

[@seany642]

bro its so hard finding a decent manual b8 in BC lol almost have to get out of province

[@TylerKicera]

Only a couple of weeks left in the APR sale!

[@jmk034]

no heat exchanger?... lol noob try to do 3 pulls in a row...

[@lou4nysq510]

That's a beast of a machine! ,💪👍💖

[@gameplayer222]

Dope car man!!! What’s the wheel And tire set up bro??

[@eeiko321]

Wonder how much more APR - Ultracharger 2 (throttle and uprated heat exchanger)will offer

[@blizteredthumbs7911]

I've the same motor, just it's the 2.0tfsi Quattro. She's beautiful with those wheels. Very nice. See the bottom of the middle grill and the air guide at the bottom of the bumper, get the gloss black, following the contour of the bumper, I did it on mine, it looks sweet, makes the grill look like it goes all the way to the splitter point. Just a recommendation. But take a photo of your car and do it on ms Paint, you'll see what I mean. Again, very nice motor 💪

[@walterdias5461]

Perfection! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@MeekElect]

That's a quick car bro, I'm in the UK and I have a 09 s4 basically the same setup as you only with revo software and vpower fuel at 100ron, and I have clocked 3.37 to 60 and 8.84 to 100, so that sounds about right to me, I think you might be even quicker than me on the same fuel

[@ivangarcia9758]

Absolute beast!

[@toddn.3123]

Do you have a link to where you got your grill?

[@TylerKicera]

Todd N. I got this one from ECS before (I assume) Audi went after them. You can still find them on eBay. All of these aftermarket ones come from China.

[@mben1072]

Loved the video bro. Did you do a trans tune and inter cooler upgrade. Also did you do exhaust work. Or do you even need to do any of they above extra work?

[@TylerKicera]

Thanks! Yes I have the APR TCU tune, APR cooling and AWE track exhaust. With dual pulley, you definitely need to do the TCU and Cooling. Exhaust is up to you - I know someone who is running dual pulley on a stock ehxuast...total sleeper. Granted, might not make quite the same power.

[@mben1072]

Tyler Kicera do you mean cooling system for super charger ?

[@mben1072]

Tyler Kicera and the exhaust. What do I need to do. From cat back or what you think. When I do my tune 450 horse and 60 pound of tork What you recommend?

[@TylerKicera]

@@mben1072 yes, I mean the heat exchanger for the supercharger. Lots of companies out there make cat back systems and which one just comes down to preference on sound. with dual pulley, the cats are known to burn up, so you may have to install test pipes or high flow cats. I think APR is coming out with some HFCs for the 3.0T.

[@mben1072]

Tyler Kicera do they make dual pulley for 2012 Audi A7? And thank you for the tip on the S/C cooler

[@mikemaka12]

How much did it cost u to do it ?

[@Skb_mo]

What’s the 60-120 time look like ? 👀🔥

[@Flyingwalrus42]

Probably goes from here we got to fuck hit the brakes in approximately no time

[@MrSamoannn]

@@Flyingwalrus42 🤣🤣

[@lavezzi070]

The price for the modification?

[@a4_stussy625]

Question when u floor it in Sports mode has the EPC light ever came on

[@TylerKicera]

Nope, no issues.

[@christianmedina6313]

Can someone explain what is dual pulley?

[@swansmeister]

Well dual means 2 so he's upgrading both pulley's, most people only do one, simple as that.

[@petarkiteski4502]

How did you get the s4 badge on that grill? I have an s5 with the same grill but can’t find the s5 emblem to put on it. If anyone can help that would be greatly appreciated

[@TylerKicera]

Petar Kiteski I took the badge off my stock grill and used some plastic epoxy

[@surferosu]

I have the same grill and wedged in/Gorilla glued heavy duty Styrofoam and then glued the S4 emblem to the Styrofoam. Looks great and It has been about 3 years. Still solid and multiple touchless washes in the winter have not loosened it.

[@kylet3589]

Theres lots in ebay that allow you to out your badge on or another badge. It's basically a plate with 2 screws and a flat plate with 2 holes for the screws to clamp your grille. Used it to put my s5 badge on my rs5 grille.

[@DavidBaginskiy]

How much and how long did it take to install the kit?

[@TylerKicera]

I don't recall the price, you can look on APR's website. I have a shop with a lift, so I was able to do it in 3-4 hours taking my time not to miss something.

[@willb5590]

How did you find the dual pulley was with the B8.5? I heard the 8.5 can only take a single pulley because of a clutch on the supercharger? B8 can do dual though. This was by an APR rep, is he wrong?

[@TylerKicera]

Will B I’ve never heard of any of this. There’s no clutch on the blower.

[@KingLouieX]

I am running dual pulley on my B8.5 I do have upgraded APR cooling, stock cats for 12k miles, so far so good but I do not track the car.

[@TylerKicera]

King Louie I’m running the same exact setup (cooling went on just after this was shot) and have about 5k on DP and stock cats. I don’t track the car either. No issues yet.

[@KingLouieX]

@@TylerKicera I use Torque app to monitor the cat temps, they do heat up when you stomp on the car, but they cool down to normal temps fairly quickly. Keep an eye out for any change in exhaust note, or white chunks on the exhaust tips, and misfires, those are tell tail signs...

[@ckim715]

Any spacers with the et46?

[@TylerKicera]

Nope

[@johnmac146]

how are your cats holding up? I want dp but the cats man...

[@TylerKicera]

Not a daily, so I’ve only put about 8k miles on this since installing. No issues so far.

[@palladium227]

What kind of wheels are those? Looking for wheels for my s4

[@TylerKicera]

Avelyino Vargas Vorsteiner ... specs in video description

[@FreshKiiD757]

Are you still on stock DPs in this video w/ the awe track? I’m still on stock DPs, wanna upgrade but I’m still skeptical lol

[@TylerKicera]

Patrick Malveaux yes, still stock DPs

[@lou4nysq510]

Just don't buy the CTS turbo downpipes.

[@framerob2]

Nice but MRC stage 2 for me.. 495bhp 600nm large crank with smaller high grip belt. Large intake hose with K&N filter

[@InbornProdigy]

Can you go from stock straight to Stage 2? And What would I need to get the full potential of the stage 2?

[@TylerKicera]

yes you can. Need the TCU tune and upgraded heat exchanger in addition to ECU flash and pulleys.

[@tarnklestime8404]

Tyler Kicera what about exhaust wise

[@mikecianci5842]

Whats this about cooling issues? Im looking to put a stage 1 tune on my b8.5 soon, but I dont want to screw my car up. Anyone willing to explain?

[@TylerKicera]

Stage 1 tune only should be fine without additional cooling (do it at your own risk). Dual pulley setups generate high enough EGTs that can damage the cats if exposed long enough. Cooling helps lower IATs which in turn limit the EGTs, so it’s important when running that kit.

[@mikecianci5842]

@@TylerKicera Thanks!

[@marcbolduc8233]

@@TylerKicera if you remove the cats and go straigt are you going to need the cooler?

[@TylerKicera]

marc bolduc absolutely. The cooler the IAT, the more dense the air will be and ultimately the more power you’ll make.

[@marcbolduc8233]

@@TylerKicera thanks. Can you link me all the pieces i Will need for a stage 2 with the pulley? If possible thanks!!

[@jonc7371]

Damn at 99k miles too

[@troypatillo1688]

Yeah I noticed that too.

[@Edgar_Allan_Poe_50]

99k a bad thing?

[@jonc7371]

@@Edgar_Allan_Poe_50 not bad, just high mileage to slap a serious power upgrade

[@didafm]

@@jonc7371 owner looks mechanically inclined

[@omerashraf2113]

Bro any car can go 500,000+ if you baby tf outta it and do all proper maintenance and service.

[@hectorsalguero6741]

What wheel setup is this? 😍

[@TylerKicera]

Hector Salguero Vorsteiner VFF107. Specs in description

[@bdog2501]

Is this the same 3.0t engine as in the a6? ?

[@TylerKicera]

yes - the 3.0T is the same in all platforms. However, parts may differ based on platform (S4, A6, A7, etc)

[@q6_zilla]

B Dog same engine and s/c just detuned I think.

[@deziking]

How Much is that @ 1:44?

[@TylerKicera]

deziking it’s the pulley tool. Sold by most of the big brands. Anywhere from $200-$250. Sometimes can get lucky and find one used (once)

[@paulkelsey2458]

Im debating between a b8/8.5 s4 and a 340i xdrive. How is the steering feel/feeback in the s4?

[@TylerKicera]

It’s servo assisted power steering, so with drive select you can change from a lighter comfort feel to heavier feel in dynamic mode. It still lacks feedback over a real sports car.

[@jungoh3485]

How much was it for everything ?

[@TylerKicera]

APR is running a sale through the end of the month. $549 for the pulleys and belt + $249 for the upgrade from Stage 1 software to Stage 2 (upgrade for less than $800). You'll save about $175 over the regular price. They do recommend upgrading the heat exchanger - IMO depends on whether you plan to track it or street drive it. I haven't done that yet and haven't had issues. I have the pulley removal tool I'll sell for $150 shipped ($200 new). Just DM me if interested.

[@MrTbmnbo009]

Wow dude those are some figures (prices & speed wise), best power for the money!

[@evanmorritse]

Well. He is neglecting the original $900 stage 1 tune. And not running a TCU tune at this point is not a good idea.

[@TylerKicera]

evan morritse I ran stage-1 and TCU tune for 8 months prior to going dual pulley. I was just pointing out the upgrade cost assuming people are already there.

[@JremV]

Tyler Kicera how much was the stage one tune plus the tcu tune total out the door? I’m hoping to buy a 2011 soon and want stage 2+ tune as well. I won’t be racing it on the track just some highway fun from time to time lol

[@josepena6154]

Cool

[@gokusupersaiya8067]

how much cost froms standard audi s4 to audi stage 2 ?

[@beamerino]

you need a DSG tune lol

[@TylerKicera]

Beams was done at the same time DP tune was loaded.

[@beamerino]

@@TylerKicera DP? Downpipe?

[@TylerKicera]

Beams not yet. Cat is still in tact. Not my daily either, so it does’t get much abuse.

[@beamerino]

@@TylerKicera What do you mean by "DP tune"? Dual pulley tune? Stage 2 ECU and TCU should've been a package deal from APR, did you have any overheating issues? And did you do the Ultracharger system too?

[@TylerKicera]

​@@beamerino DP tune = stage 2 Dual Pulley tune. Thinking back on it, I actually had the TCU tune done when I had the stage 1 tune flashed. It's not a package deal but my impression is they won't flash stage 2 without it. I have the APR heat exchanger installed (not seen in this video) and don't overheat or have any issues with the cats. No UltraCharger here.

[@jacobhauenstein]

Hey, might want a front cooler to stop that heat soak.

[@TylerKicera]

Jacob hauenstein - Done.

[@jacobhauenstein]

Awesome, enjoy your reliable 500+hp car!

[@ilyasbuyuklu1587]

nice

[@zillaho3491]

Need catless down pipes

[@overcooked123]

In this car the down pipes are already catless, the cats are between headers and downpipes

[@silverslc29]

No cooling? Bye bye cats

[@TylerKicera]

Cooling is coming...my understanding is that it’s more of a general DP issue

[@silverslc29]

More of a what ?

[@TylerKicera]

dual pulley (DP) issue...that its not directly related to cooling

[@BlacklistBuilds]

@@TylerKicera that is correct

[@benjaminjeffreys7027]

My cats went with just crank pulley changed stock cooling. Now have merc HX and gutted cats.

[@asspect]

this is slow for stage 2+ wtf lol

[@candycornpeeps]

How much power is putting down?