Audi B8 S4 Common Faults And Buyers Guide

[@joshfernandezthediycarguy443]

Love the vid good job!

[@TheParrottBros]

Josh Fernandez The DIY Car Guy! Thanks buddy

[@harleybraylon5602]

i dont mean to be so offtopic but does any of you know a method to get back into an instagram account? I was dumb lost the login password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me

[@leroybishop8766]

@Harley Braylon instablaster =)

[@Rays4111]

​@@TheParrottBros5

[@jpwilliams5264]

I just bought the cheapest s4 in Canada! It needs all the things you mentioned. I checked your video out before buying and was able to negotiate an extremely good price. You’ve got a sub! Thanks

[@TheParrottBros]

Jesse B that’s brilliant, glad my video was helpful that’s what it’s intended for. Enjoy it and keep an eye out for more content. Thanks for watching

[@MrWOLFERYPWN]

How much you pay?

[@jpwilliams5264]

Chris Parvanyik 6k certified

[@inouske2975]

@@jpwilliams5264 hey man im getting s4 2011 for 12$k canadian. its driven 165k km. should i get it?

[@samwh4775]

@@inouske2975 I just saw a 2012 S4 with the 7 speed DCT at $13K with 175k kms 😅😅

[@chadwagner174]

My 2013 S4 has cost me over $10k in the last 8 months. I hit 125k miles with zero problems. Then, BOOM. Harmonic balancer, coil packs, both supercharger intercoolers, water pump, thermostat, valve cover gaskets, fuel pump, brake booster, all took a shit. It's got a APR Stage 2 tune, supercharger pulley & crank pulley upgrade, ultracharger throttle body, carbon fiber intake, and Magnaflow exhaust & yes, I drive it pretty hard as a daily driver. Still, it can add up very quickly. Now I'm getting the 1-2 second death rattle from the timing chain at cold start-up. Not looking forward to that at all! This is a car I'll never sell though. I love it. I complain, but I love it.

[@rayanali4647]

How’s it been so far after the 10k in services?

[@Wayzor_]

Driving a B8 this weekend - thanks for the great information!

[@TheParrottBros]

Awesome good luck 🤙🏻

[@ricowebb7603]

mine has 93,000 miles...had to replace the high pressure fuel pump, valve cover gaskets, the rest has been just routine maintenance and scheduled maintenance

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks for dropping a comment appreciate it. Have heard about the pump once or twice before but not as much as other issues. Valve cover gaskets is quite common funnily enough I need to get mine done as they are starting to show a light sweaty ness.

[@s2owner]

Good review covering most of the common faults. Gearbox is the real weak spot on these motors and any other Audi's using the STronic. My mechatronics went at 84K and needed to be replaced along with the clutch packs. 2.5K bill for that repair. Other than that, it's been exceptionally reliable and it's happily pushing 480bhp with a stage 2 pulley and gearbox remap. Great car for long journeys with plenty of room in the back being the Avant.

[@TheParrottBros]

Thank you, I think it’s one of those if you have it in the back of your mind that you may need to do the gearbox at some point and you don’t need to happy days and if you do need to then you sort of knew it was coming at some point. They are brilliant cars. Hard part is what do you go to next after your done with the s4. Hard to beat without spending a lot

[@davidthomas7032]

I’ve just bought a 60 plate s4 avant with 82,000 on it , I’m going to have to check if it’s had 2 gearbox services, how much are you looking at for a gearbox service?

[@s2owner]

@@davidthomas7032 £230 from a main dealer.

[@davidthomas7032]

@@s2owner thanks it had a mechtronic rebuild at 60000 so all good

[@lemonmuffin4990]

I have a 6 speed manual. Any difference?

[@cs_yt]

Thanks for the tips, I am considering buying one. Couple of things I would add, first run a full scan and second lift each corner to check for any play(bushings/control arms, bearings, etc.) and brakes. These can help uncover costly fixes and/or help your negotiation. Cheers!

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks, they are brilliant cars and I am still loving mine, the front suspension arms can be a nightmare as often the bolt seizes into the aluminium upright causing nightmares if you ever have to change an arm 😂

[@Vteccer666]

also timing chain issues across the whole range from early b8 to b8.5 have ran my S4 for 3 years now and still drive it daily hard

[@TheParrottBros]

craig wallace best way. Absolutely live mine still. Brilliant cars and what can you get for similar money, similar age that’s as fast and as fun

[@FNBen1090]

B8 owner here... great video.

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks for watching and commenting Ben, what colour and spec b8 do you have?

[@FNBen1090]

The Parrott Bro’s 2010 brilliant red premium plus

[@TheParrottBros]

Ooo nice! The blue wasn’t my choice I was just waiting for the right car to come along the colour was the lesser of my worries as they are all nice

[@TheBHPDoctor]

@@FNBen1090 awesome! I have a silver s4 which I am hoping to modify aswell.

[@FNBen1090]

The Parrott Bro’s for sure mate. Amazing cars.

[@Monkey80llx]

The logos appearing and disappearing to the sounds of the engine and exhaust!!... sweeet!! !!! 🎯😆👌🏼

[@TheParrottBros]

Haha glad you like it, think your the first to mention it 😂

[@Monkey80llx]

Loved it!...and laughed out loud at the ‘man maths’ subtitle! 🤣 Great videos and as someone who just shaved their poor effort off...great beard too! 😄

[@TheParrottBros]

😂😂 we all thought it I just say it as I see it 😂😂. Any beard is better than no beard 😎

[@olis_garage]

Supercharger heat exchanger leaking is an issue I've seen on mine - symptoms are slight coolant usage (check the level) and misfire at high rpm. IC radiator as well can get badly stone chipped and leak so worth checking that too

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks for that. I’ve not heard this mentioned before so a good one to note down. Have you got yours all sorted now?

[@olis_garage]

@@TheParrottBros yeah all sorted now actually had a whole new supercharger fitted, but I hear it may be possible to change jus the internal heat exchangers

[@TheParrottBros]

Oliver Rashid you know what that’s not something I’d know about. Luckily super chargers are not massive money

[@olis_garage]

@@TheParrottBros £4k bill in the end!! But was covered through warranty, you can pick them up used for not too much

[@mathiasliekens8267]

I had both the PCV and 1 supercharger intercooler replaced because of a mysterious en magical coolant loss. This was not cheap, but needed to be done because of misfires at high rpm and ofcourse coolant loss. Coolant leaking in a cylinder is not good for an engine it seems. This is on a 2013MY.

[@pete1973x]

Really useful, thank you. I recently bought an A4 and it wasn't until I'd had it about a month I found the right rear internal door lever did not work (and no, it was not the child lock!) So, yeah, check everything.

[@TheParrottBros]

Haha a friend of mine did something similar and he left it with me. It was the child lock on his, he didn’t have kids so didn’t even think. I simply turned it off, never did tell him how I fixed it 😂😂. Yeah I usually open every window, every door etc

[@tech2nr288]

Thanks for the great Info. I wanted to know if these s4's consume oil? Thanks

[@TheParrottBros]

They do if the Pcv system is blocked or failed. Can be up to a litre every thousand miles.

[@tech2nr288]

@@TheParrottBros Oh ok under the supercharger cool, Thank you

[@dagnut]

what big German engine doesn't?

[@marksuave25]

Yes, yes, and yes. Great car though, but you will need to add oil.

[@alinazang6651]

@@dagnut the inline 6 from BMW doesn't.

[@Big-T-]

Great vid dude, just put a deposit down on one with the carbon extras, DSG,FSH sitting at 41k. Big upgrade from the fn2 type r, cant wait.🤙🏾Was going to go for a manual one but ive never had a DSG and ive heard good things about this one.

[@TheParrottBros]

Sounds like a real nice car! The Dsg does make a big difference specially in manual mode using the paddles ;) Enjoy and if you need to know anything drop me a message 👍🏻

[@josephdonnelly3169]

Dom I watch your TT content (which I have a 2000 mk 1, which I love) but always have been intrigued by the S4 4.2. I’ve heard they can be money pits, this video was helpful. Haven’t taken the plunge as of yet! Thx

[@TheParrottBros]

The likelihood is the ‘money pit ‘ was probably when changing things like injectors or coils as there is 8, v8 so more oil etc etc. they are pretty much bullet proof

[@bradley8300]

Hello nice video. Just a couple of other things that can go wrong. The crank pulley are know to fail around 65000 miles just like mine did. Also the door locking mechanism can become faulty.

[@TheParrottBros]

Great shout that, I’ve heard the pulleys can go, relatively easy one to spot as could become noisy when failing and also will not spin straight. Open the Bonnet and look down at it, visible from above. Thanks for your comment :)

[@justin7080]

Also worth noting - if you're going to upgrade to a more aggressive pulley ratio with a tune, I recommend changing to a larger crank pulley (rather than smaller supercharger pulley) for this very reason.

[@christian103]

TPB - thank you for this video, definitely helping with my B8/B8.5 S4 search. I did test drive an S4 and I noticed it had this stop and go jerking issue, from stop it feels like the trans isn't catching and the car will lurch/jerk forward. It's as-if a new driver is learning manual for the first time and is unfamiiliar with the clutch. The seller advised that it's pretty normal for these vehicles and there's a way they drive to get around this. I've done as much research as I can online but I'm getting mixed responses from it being a mechatronics unit issue or the computer just adapting to the drivers driving habits, etc. Any tips, etc is appreciated!

[@TheParrottBros]

Your welcome, that’s what it aimed at helping those who own or want to own one. I would recommend driving another one so you get a feel for 2. That way if they are both the same then that’s normal or if one is significantly better then you know one is no good. There is almost a delay when pulling away from a stop. Then when coming to a stop it can also be similar. Same as when you put it into reverse it can take a second to catch up. It’s an old designed box so not like modern tech. It’s a lot better in manual or sport. Also there is gearbox updates and you can also get them mapped which does help a little

[@davideyden4396]

I allways drive 2 or 3 or the same car just so i can compare the differences between them based on my research

[@atifbuksh]

Hey mate great vid. I’m planning to import a 2010 s5 out of Singapore. Its got 55,000km. Ive asked them for service record. Fingers crossed

[@TheParrottBros]

Very nice indeed. That’s very good mileage. Hope it all works out for you

[@quickretreat9482]

Hey! Would you share some info how to get to auction in Singapore? Where you actually from also? :)

[@mhkongalex]

B.5 2014 owner here. DSG problem (gearbox malfunction you may continue to drive), Clutch Sip (slightly) at Gear4 and Park to Reverse, Coolant Leak. Running at 104,000 KM right now. Heard ECS's Mechatronics Unit Service Kit could fix the DSG problem.

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks for the comment mate, I’ll look into the Ecs kit as it may help others in the future. Thanks for watching

[@AngloSaxon1]

Blinding Video. Great information

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks buddy

[@davidjpfau]

Any thoughts on how much oil is too much in the motor? I’ve seen a lot about engine oil consumption but what about overfill? Capacity is 6.2 quarts but some suggest adding extra however I can’t find any good detail on how far above capacity you can go before risking engine damage.

[@TheParrottBros]

Usually more than a litre every thousand miles is deemed quite a bit. I’ve never heard of overfilling, I’ve heard people go from 5w30 over to 5w40 and it reduces consumption

[@jasonmcintyre8588]

All I can say is be weary of your harmonic balancer. I've heard a few go out because of the large amounts of heat deteriorating the rubber. Also, take off your supercharger and look at your intercoolers for any leakage if you're experiencing coolant loss.

[@TheParrottBros]

Not heard of the balancer issue so thanks for that, the charger coming off and checking coolers is a great shout. Also the supercharger takes oil which Audi say it doesn’t but it does. And while there get checked for carbon build up as made need walnut blasting if too bad

[@adolfishoo]

nice review, what petrol grade you feed this beast? Ron 95 or Ron 97? any difference between both and does Ron 95 contributes more towards carbon build up?

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks buddy, I use Tesco momentum which boasts 99 octane, I’ve had to use 95 when in a bind but it much prefers either vpower or momentum

[@adolfishoo]

@@TheParrottBros thanks buddy

[@Sky-is-the-limit-44]

Did the Audi S4 B8 from 2008-2010 have a more reliable 6HP torque converter automatic transmission?

[@ralfszemzars1885]

Hi, Thank you for the video! Would you say that the B8 (not B8.5) gearbox issues are blown out of proportion or are they rather common? Looking in to an 2010 S4, hence the question. Mostly everyone recommends buying B8.5 as those, supposedly, have the issues resolved. Thanks!

[@TheParrottBros]

Ralfs Zemzars your very welcome, I seen 8.5’s with box issues too but not as frequently. It is a common issue but not everyone suffers from it, providing maintenance has been done on box when needed it should be perfectly fine, if you are worried either get a warranty or buy one that has proof of gearbox having mechatronix already done.

[@TheCinderellaman10]

I read on audi forums that the 2013+ s5 b8 models had the s tronic gearbox sorted out, there was a weak electrical point in the mechatronic unit which would tend to play up

[@BarbellMonkey]

Another major issue seems to be the failure of the catalytic converters basically melting due to excessive heat as they are located so close to the engine which then can possibly cause catastrophic engine failure if particles enter the engine... I'm not sure if this is mainly in the US or other warmer countries than the UK. I've been looking into replacing them with test pipes/sports cats on the downpipes but labor on that job alone seems to be about £500-800 and the parts are not cheap also.

[@TheParrottBros]

It's not something I've heard too much about, I have heard about them blocking and causing running issues but that again could be a similar sign of failure! The issues with his pipes are the noise they are so damn loud ha ha

[@wheresjusty]

My cats were failing on my 2013 B8.5 Avant. My Audi workshop said go for a long highway drive and try blow it all out. Was mostly at night and i saw glowing bits flying out the back at 30mph-100mph pulls been all good now for over 80k

[@adamprice9214]

​@TheParrottBros lots of videos on KZbin explaining that this can be a major issue and like the man said can absolutely destroy your engine.. cost of a replacement engine and obviously cats (whatever route you take) and labour can well exceed 10k.. I've just bought a 2010 s4 b8 and so have been watching lots of videos. Today I'm getting a whining through transmission/differential (not sure which yet) that increases/decreases with speed and not gears all I know is it sounds blimmin expensive.. I'll update when I know more 😭

[@dinoturd6951]

I own a S4 2009 S-tronic and I'm not sure if the gearbox is 100%. When slowing down (at a trafficlight orso) I can really feel it shifting down. It's not like my head is smashed at the steeringwheel, but I can surely feel the engine braking. Is that normal?

[@TheParrottBros]

Dino Turd that sounds normal to me, have you got the insert? I found the transmission insert and a gearbox service got rid of most of that. Sometimes its a bit lazy when it changes down into first too. They are not the newest of boxes and they are not as smooth as the latest Dsg boxes so I wouldn’t worry too much

[@dinoturd6951]

@@TheParrottBros tnx, got the service done a week ago. What is the insert? In S mode the car uses whats called throttle blipping (I think,

[@TheParrottBros]

Dino Turd the insert is an aluminium insert that bolts into the transmission mount and fills the void so reduces movement. Yes in manual mode and sport mode it Rev matches on down changes

[@vickavinsky6343]

please can u help me? audi s4 b8.5 or bmw 340i?? which is more reliable?? i have 2 days left to make decision..

[@TheParrottBros]

They are 2 totally different cars so depends what you are after. Red or Quattro, I would look into faults. Which is best on paper. Both are prestige cars and will not be cheap on maintenance. I love my s4 and would recommend to anyone. BMW’s are very popular nowadays as usually have good spec too.

[@vickavinsky6343]

@@TheParrottBros the look and rwd nature of bmw is very appealing to me but i heard f30 generation have many bugs.. i mean from mechanical point of view the engine itself the b58 is very reliable right? im not so sure about xdrive

[@TheParrottBros]

I know very little about the new gen bmw stuff to be fair buddy. Engine wise I can only talk for the Audi and say it’s a great engine that really delivers on power and performance

[@joshfernandezthediycarguy443]

What did you get and how happy are you @vic also any problems ?

[@playhard9330]

Hey I want to buy a 2012 Audi S4 manual with 69k miles. Are there problems with this year's transmission? When does the thermostat have to be changed?

[@TheParrottBros]

Manuals are known for being quite good, only thing you need to check is how the clutch feels as that’s the only think that is likely to fail. Thermostat doesn’t have a specific interval for changing I don’t think but I could be wrong. Most people change them around 70-80k as that’s when they have been known to fail and do the water pump at the same time

[@playhard9330]

@@TheParrottBros thank you so much for the info

[@Er32k]

I hear a lot of these engines have a rattle at cold startup..chain tensioners.Mine has a rattle for 1 sec at startup.Audi has a tsb that says that this causes no damage,as it stays within 1-3 sec.Do i need new tensioners.Btw,i have a Q5 3.0tfsi.If it does need new tensioners, does the engine and gearbox need to come out?

[@TheParrottBros]

Yeah been hearing more about that recently. Audi say less than 3 seconds is ok. From what I could see when looking it’s a 27 hour book time and engine out or at least half out to do it yes ( on b8 s4)

[@TheUffeHammer]

@@TheParrottBros Only do the repair if it is more than 3 seconds of chain rattle, a lot of people are reporting that the chain rattle comes back some time after fixing it, so a little rattle is considered normal, in this thread that spans 4 years they have had zero destroyed engines: www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/660249-15-Engine-rattling-noises-at-cold-start-V6-3-0-TFSI/page28

[@TwentytenS4B8]

Just bought a 2010 S4. Silver B8.

[@TheParrottBros]

Very nice, Avant or saloon? Manual or stronic

[@TwentytenS4B8]

Saloon stronic. Impossible to find a true manual.

[@TheParrottBros]

04Interc3ptorP71 manuals are out there but stronic was always more popular sales as quicker

[@skaterjam1]

Hey pal! great video, I'm currently looking at an S4 B8 Avant and will take these tips with me when I look. Additionally, I am based in the South (currently Surrey). I'd love to see your motor at a meet one day! Great content keep it up (Y)

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks for the kind words, i sold mine about 6-9 months back, thoroughly enjoyed owning it for some 3 years but fancied a change. ill be honest ive not found anything that compares value for money wise yet haha

[@skaterjam1]

@@TheParrottBros I subsequently bought the S4 B8 avant in Sprint Blue. So far its been awesome, I'm very happy with the car. Next week I'm driving to the Alps in it, should be a good way to give it a good shake-out! Keep up the great work, Subscribed 👊

[@stevanGTS]

Great information mate, I am thinking to buy S5 sportback 3.0v6t same engine as your in S4 so I was wondering whats average fuel consumption mpg or l/km ? I am reading about it but i would like to hear from first hand. Keep updating.!

[@TheParrottBros]

Thank you, on a run you see about 30 mpg, around town nearer 20 that’s based on an S Tronic.

[@dennisc5139]

I get mine to 15 l /100km or even more but it is stage 1 mtm 450hk/530 nm

[@chrispapa1587]

Dennis C how much is it for a stage one? Is there a big difference with stage one and two, cost and power?

[@michaelwilson2522]

Just bought 2011 S4 Avant, noticing that when cold and slowing down to a stop the gear jumps into first with a bit of a jerk, is this normal and will the gearbox add in from your other video assist?

[@TheParrottBros]

michael wilson hey buddy, this is quite normal on the s4, the trans insert and a gearbox map will get rid of the worst of this

[@f10leek48]

Just got rid of my F10 N55 and thinking about getting the b8 S4 is it worth it or should I go with a different model ?

[@TheParrottBros]

It all depends what you're after, budget etc I would recommend driving one they are very good cars, lovely to drive with plenty of power under the right foot. If you can do later model might be slightly nicer but the prices reflect that

[@BigSmoke-iw4zo]

How long do these engines last? I’m looking at a 2012 s4 with 78.000 kilometres. I’m wondering if its a good buy

[@TheParrottBros]

I wouldnt worry too much, ive seen cars do well over 150,000 miles without issue. Just make sure the servicing has been done to schedule

[@Cr3amfields]

Hey mate watched your videos on these they are very helpful as I'm considering buying! Heard of any issues with the timing chains on these?

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks for commenting appreciate it, chains wise I’ve heard one or two fail but certainly not a massive failure rate. They have been known to stretch and also the tensioner make noise in start up. 3 seconds or less is within audi spec, if it happens when warm or lasts more than 3 seconds tensioner may need replacing.

[@Cr3amfields]

@@TheParrottBros many thanks for the quick reply. Appreciate it 👍

[@TheParrottBros]

Anytime, feel free to drop us a massage on Facebook or instagram anytime

[@HuheJass]

Had a carbon cleaning done, due to some “brand new broken” parts had to have the cylinders refaced and engine was torn down and put back together mostly.. also never not had a check engine light (P0420). (Should just be a sensor but changing has never fixed it) But it’s gorgeous, has the magma red interior and just over 100k miles. What would you do? I want to buy it especially if I can get a good deal, but I worry it’s a lemon/money pit that will never be filled

[@HuheJass]

It’s the supercharged b8.5 generation, and it’s perfect in every way except mechanically.. I guess another question could be, how much could I expect one of these to cost if I have to fix everything (mainly engine and transmission) over the next five-ten years?

[@TheParrottBros]

So, Usually if a car has an issue that won’t be fixed for sale usually tells me that it’s not a straight forward job or it’s very expensive and they are down playing it Gearbox repairs can be 3-4 thousand pounds, a new second hand engine could be 5k. That code related to catalysts efficiency. Here is some of the things it could be Faulty Three-way Catalyst Converter Bank 1 Exhaust Tube Intake Air Leaks Faulty Oxygen (O2) Sensor Faulty Fuel injector(s) Leaking Fuel Injector (s) Faulty Spark plugs Improper Ignition Timing Faulty Engine Control Module (ECM) Dirty Air Filter Not to mention broken wires, etc

[@HuheJass]

@@TheParrottBros Thank you! I will be sure to poke around this weekend and see if any of those are the obvious culprit. yeah something has never been quite right with this one. I’ve been around for the last 60k miles put on it and it’s had around $10k put into it and it’s still running rough and throwing that code. The last mechanic was a nightmare and I question their ability to have put it all back together correctly. Still, something about that supercharger and Quattro drive makes me want it despite the red flags.. If I don’t seriously want to buy it they will likely trade it in which would be a shame, but with its history maybe a blessing. Speaking of loose wires, there where some, the entire harness was only being held by one of the four bolts :| the mechanic did put on a new one on and zip tied some dangling wires out of the belts way..

[@TheParrottBros]

HuheJass yeah I’m certain cases it’s better to have the money in your pocket than invested in a headache. Hope all is ok, always another one somewhere. 👌🏻

[@HuheJass]

@@TheParrottBros deep down I know.. I could buy and fix up several much more reliable cars for the price of getting it happy. Maybe one day I’ll find a lower mileage example with silver paint and the beautiful black and red interior with no check engine lights 🙏🏻

[@chrispapa1587]

Great info 👌🏼I’m looking at a 2011 s4 with 73,000km would you consider that to have low mileage for its age?

[@TheParrottBros]

Chris papa thank you, yes that’s considered low, usually average mileage you’ll be 10-12.5k miles per year so average would be 90-120k miles. So 73k would be around 50k miles. That’s low.

[@chrispapa1587]

The Parrott Bro’s legend, thank you for the reply back

[@chrispapa1587]

The Parrott Bro’s just a few questions regarding the B8, the auto gear knob can that be upgraded to the B8.5? (Round knob looks so much more modern) Also in terms up an exhaust upgrade what do you think is best done for louder system?

[@TheParrottBros]

Best thing you can do is drop me a message on Facebook or instagram and I can send you some links, pics etc

[@chrispapa1587]

The Parrott Bro’s done my man will do thank you 🙏🏻

[@markprescott1439]

Flexi pipe rattle is a something that needs mentioning

[@TheParrottBros]

That’s a new one on me, not heard that before. Is that from where the flexi is damaged and breaking? Thanks for the comment mark.

[@markprescott1439]

No worries and yeah it’s the outer flexi on the down pipes it rattles at about 1000 or as it is on mine rev the car and as the engine winds down there’s a right rattle from the exhaust

[@TheParrottBros]

Funnily enough was just browsing fb and saw your post about it. So options are replace or heat wrap to stop the rattle. Thanks again mark

[@markprescott1439]

The Parrott Bro’s options are replace, straight pipes or flexi wrap and no worries pal just thought you should know about it for future videos or add ons to the one you’ve done (shout out required haha)

[@gavanphotography7814]

Anything about timing issues with these cars? Timing guides, tensioners and chains going bad?

[@TheParrottBros]

There is a small minority that can suffer with chain stretch, it’s advised to listen to Cold start as chain wear will be more evident. Although I have heard some that sound awful the whole time. As long as it’s been well serviced it shouldn’t be an issue but always do your checks

[@jean-pierremallet3524]

@@TheParrottBros I bought my b8.5 at 132000km in 2022 and it's been well maintained but of course if you dig deeper you will find the common issues. I did the carbon clean and pcv valve at the same time as a precaution. found one supercharger intercooler leaking. One common issue I think people aren't mentioning often Is the electric power steering when the steering wheel in the center feels notchy and timing chain rattle upon startup but ok when engine warmed up and oiled throughout. thanks for the video

[@victor-xy7dq]

what about the s4 b8 timing chain? i've heard some audi's have timing chain/belt problems. But is it a common fault on these?

[@sdmc1972]

my buddies neighbor is an audi tech he said they rarely go in the 3.0t motors he said in the 30 years hes seen the tensioners fail a couple times

[@ZackyDaley]

I just bought one and having issues with sports diff? Almost like a bad movie a pulled off the lot and it stalled 3 times with a "sports diff fault" error

[@TheParrottBros]

That does sound like really bad luck, unless they knew they were selling it with a problem. Sports diff is one thing I’ve never actually looked into or had any dealings with. When you do get your diagnose please put the information on this chat as it would be helpful to know

[@ZackyDaley]

@@TheParrottBros I got out of it today. Had to stay with dealer but switched to a Toyota Scion.

[@ZackyDaley]

@@TheParrottBros the dealer said there was no problem with the Audi but that was not a good enough explanation when it died on me 3 times. What if I had been rear ended when stalled? It wasn't worth to me if the sports diff had a 5k problem. The Toyota is much more manageable .

[@mrmanitoba]

Another big one is SAI. Covered up to 10 years but mine went at 10 years and 2 months and Audi did nothing for me. Engine light stays on until it is serviced and it is not cheap so I left it.

[@TheParrottBros]

Sounds about right, main dealers will wriggle out of anything, Cj mechanical recommends replacing Pcv valve and check pipework after 10 years as you say due to common failures

[@Orentas01]

Timing chains!

[@tc0ates]

Great car. Great beard!

[@TheParrottBros]

Why thank you 🙂

[@ONeill_Nolan]

Man I am about to buy a 2011 b8 s4 and after hearing about the transmission problem I don’t know. It’s a rabbit hole on Audi forums most saying that even after replacing the mechatronics the problem still appears. Any thoughts?

[@TheParrottBros]

I wouldn’t worry too much, providing the car has had the correct service intervals on the gearbox that’s all you can do, I’ve not heard of people having issues after repairing the mechatronics unit to be fair, it’s unlikely to happen to you & if you buy another car say a different brand there is nothing to say that it won’t have a weakness too. 2 years in I’m still loving mine

[@ONeill_Nolan]

@@TheParrottBros defiantly not hating on Audi for it I know every car has its problems. The reason I am here is that I totaled my 500 hp B5 S4 a week or so ago in a snowstorm and wanted to go newer. I saw a 2011 s4 with dual pully, the prestige and titanium package, 530 hp, etc on marketplace, but just worry about that trans... Thanks for the input.

[@TheParrottBros]

That’s similar to me, I’ve come from a b5 s4 to the b8 and it’s a nice transition to be fair

[@ONeill_Nolan]

@@TheParrottBros I find it funny how we both had b5’s and decided to upgrade to a b8. Ive also been eyeing some 2015 a4’s and getting the IE ko4 would make for a nice daily

[@TheParrottBros]

I went for the car that made best power without too much modifying as Wanted the reliability 😂🤞🏻

[@ArtemLokhovitskiy]

I watched probably 10 videos from different KZbinrs about common issues with b8/8.5 and only one mentioned about suspension. NOBODY talks about AWD system. Does anyone know anything about reliability and serviceability of diffs, axels and so on?

[@TheParrottBros]

As a rule the Audi Quattro system is very reliable, and has scheduled maintenance intervals. Provided it’s been serviced it’s very good

[@ArtemLokhovitskiy]

@@TheParrottBros thank you for the reply! Good to know that :) I have never been really interested in Audis from the potential buyer's perspective until recently, so... Any info is a good info. Especially when such comes from someone who actually owns Audis and mess with them :)

[@henryesparza8063]

b8.5 90k miles would it be worth buying ? $20k

[@TheParrottBros]

Guessing by dollar sign your in USA, I couldn’t confirm foe certain us prices but that is roughly what they would be in uk

[@TheCinderellaman10]

This would also apply to the s5 b8/b8.5?

[@TheParrottBros]

imran bajwa yes it would. On a b8.5 certain things will differ as they may have a revised/ better gearbox and Pcv etc. But fundamentally the same

[@TheCinderellaman10]

@@TheParrottBros pardon my ignorance, but is the b8 the 4.2 v8 variant that came before and the b8.5 is the 3.0tfsi s/charged that went into production 2012 to 2017? Thanks

[@TheParrottBros]

imran bajwa that’s a good question, the b8 and b8.5 are actually based on b8 being pre facelift and b8.5 facelift. So visually different lights, bumpers and that. The 3.0 charged engine was in the coupe from 2012, and the sport back and convertible from 2010 I believe.

[@juliancarter557]

Lovin it, made me laugh

[@tjmccarty6771]

would a 2013 s4 6speed with 108k miles be considered a good deal? No accidents and 2 previous owners.

[@TheParrottBros]

Tj McCarty what’s the price, manual I’m guessing. Average mileage and low owner count is good, as long as it has a good service history

[@tjmccarty6771]

The Parrott Bro’s $17k

[@TheParrottBros]

Which country?

[@tjmccarty6771]

The Parrott Bro’s USA

[@TheParrottBros]

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I’m not up on us prices I’m afraid

[@needleheadj3867]

Im planning on buying a b8.5 that’s manual and it has 83k miles but it has a misfire I’ve checked everything and it seems good the power seems to be there in every gear the only thing is that it has a slight rough idle would anyone have an idea what it could be?

[@TheParrottBros]

There is a number of issues that could be, blocked or broken pcv system, carbon build up requiring a carbon clean ( walnut blasting etc) have you checked for fault codes?

[@jamesowen4360]

Considering one of these, it's got a stage one unicorn map on it and the gearbox to match. I want something reliable fun and big enough for 4. Tempted .. just don't need to tell the wife it's got 340 plus bhp 😂

[@TheParrottBros]

I had it for a little over 3 years and loved every minute of it, as long as it has a good history and has been well cared for you wont look back

[@Yourhandinmine]

I have a 2012 A7 that will crank and crank and not start then after maybe 10-15 tries it’ll start and I het a stabilization fault I’ve spent stupid money and been in many shops and can’t figure anything out....

[@TheParrottBros]

That could be something as simple as a broken wire, a dodgy sensor or an electrical issue. Unfortunately newer cars can have the wildest issues, where in the world are you? if uk I can recommend an Audi whisperer haha

[@Yourhandinmine]

@@TheParrottBros located in central USA but I now have a new personal mechanic that is determined to get it fixed and not even charging any labor costs for me

[@haroonhayat2139]

@Parrot Bros. Any advice whether I should get one without any service history? He has only owned the car for about 6 months and had basic servicing done. No other paperwork. I drove it, It was smooth. No issues. But I have no confidence in the car as it comes with literally no paperwork. 87k mileage. Any advice from you will be really appreciated!

[@TheParrottBros]

Sorry been out for the week as had my appendix rupture on me, the issue with no service history is nothing could have been done and it could be clocked, if its dsg then no records of gearbox servicing is a major problem as they are a weak point. My s4 will be for sale very soon if you are local.

[@spinedctr]

I was just wondering how common an issue is the carbon build up in these 3.0 litre engines? I've heard varying opinions from it being over blown and not too common, especially in the later models, to it being a very common issue in all direct inection engines. I have a 2016 S5, and I am hoping it's not too common of a problem!

[@TheParrottBros]

Much like yourself when I’ve looking into it, it’s 50% hear say and 50% fact. Pretty much every German specialist I have spoken to said that most if not all TFSI or engines suffer with carbon build up of some description or another. You would hope the newer models suffer less but unless you take it apart you won’t know. When I get my supercharger serviced I will do a video on the results of what I have and if a carbon clean is required. It’s certainly not something to worry about, easiest way to see is on a rolling road and see if you’ve lost any pony’s along the way ☺️ Plus a great excuse to get it on the rollers

[@maxgo3537]

Engine mounts!!

[@TheChadls]

Seafoam for buildup?

[@gdenterprise2500]

Why my 2010 qud prestige not starting?

[@TheParrottBros]

Sorry i dont get what you mean? thanks

[@markprescott1439]

Update….exhausts need mentioning

[@TheParrottBros]

Thanks for the mention Care to elaborate for others ? Flexi’s?

[@markprescott1439]

@@TheParrottBros nah this time it’s the centre section, mines decided to die. I went to a custom place and the guy has an s4, he explained that because of the heat these 3.0 tfsi engines run the exhaust systems days are numbered, added to that the slight lump in the idle speed everything suffers

[@E46325mod]

why do you have a4 looking seats ?? 💺

[@TheParrottBros]

The original owner didn’t go for the bucket style seats. I must admit I would quite like some as they look great. But the seats In there are super comfy

[@TheParrottBros]

Draggy654 that is unusual, In England people tend to buy really randomly Spec cars from new haha

[@donaldallan2492]

Very helpful guide. Planning going balls deep on an 87000mile manual. Any recommendations for good tuning companies north of the border?

[@sipsimies1588]

The leather seats are slippery as fuck

[@TheParrottBros]

That’s just all leather, hot in the sun, freezing in the winter and slippery when driving quick 😂

[@Vteccer666]

50k for supercharger oil change

[@TheParrottBros]

craig wallace my audi specialist advised me this and when I called audi they said the supercharger is not a serviceable part and they do not service it. Madness!

[@Vteccer666]

@@TheParrottBros i know i emailed eaton to ask and they said 50 to 65k for oil change and full front and rear bearings available too

[@miroslavhristov9104]

I've watched some of you videos, you don't have to say 1000 times etc.