Baby Pac-Man Arcade 1.7 Million Points (PinMAME + VPX)

[@lovetheblue6659]

I used to play this game back in the day, and this appears to be a *perfect* reproduction! Kudos to the VPX/VpinMAME/VP Table authors who brought this together!

[@detonator2112]

Indeed this is an excellent reproduction. I played the real machine a LOT in my youth and I was developing this version as well. My high score in the real one was over 4 million and I think the difficulty level is quite on par in this version too. Cheers.

[@willierants5880]

Not quite. The bumpers don't work properly and the ball physics is pretty bad, nothing like the real thing which I have access to and is what is forming my opinions. Still for emulation it's passable and better than nothing.

[@elvampe13]

@@detonator2112 Awesome video! I've been itching to play this hybrid Pac-Man game myself, though I'm not sure I understand the links you posted in the description. If the 1st link is enough to play the game on Visual Pinball X, then what is the purpose of the 2nd link (VPX+PinMAME)? And the 3rd link is the ROM file, but doesn't the 1st link come with the game already?

[@detonator2112]

@@elvampe13 Thanks. No. You need BOTH Visual Pinball and PinMAME. Visual Pinball simulates the pinball part and PinMAME _emulates_ the ROM part. It uses genuine Bally ROMs and for that you need the emulator. They work together in symbiose. Good luck.

[@elvampe13]

@@detonator2112 Thank you for the quick reply. So just to be sure, I need ALL 3 links to get this game running correct?

[@tokyohanamura]

If I ever had that type of money, I’d buy the actual pinball machine. It’s just such an awesome hybrid arcade machine!

[@thatlocalpessimist]

*"YOU HAVE WON AN EXTRA BABY"*

[@celinesenden4142]

Very cool

[@vincentfitzgerald9738]

NOOO

[@Dr.ruby7LT]

11:01

[@_lun4r_]

No way thanks for the child game I deserved to win it

[@robbiezampini-is3en]

Extra Life

[@mrcydonia]

Back when I was a kid, this game was kind of mythical. I had heard about it, but never ever saw one in the arcades.

[@SilvercattoOsom]

This must have taken a lot of work to do to make it work on emulators. I mean, this may as well be its own standalone game. I'm genuinely impressed.

[@nyastclair8174]

Damn this VPX program is a lot more impressive than I imagined. Going to have to grab it and all the tables!

[@kimcummings6904]

Pac Man ruled the 80s. Ms. Pac Man too. Super PAC MAN! But when Baby Pac came out...it was truly game on.

[@orelas167]

To say that I did not understand this game in its day would be an understatement (four minutes to safely beat the first level? really?). So I'm glad I'm able to see some serious gameplay on it on KZbin. The pinball half must have been a retro thing for veteran masters.

[@detonator2112]

This is very underrated game that requires a lot of strategy to get through the mazes. My absolute favorite Pac-Man game. Same way underrated as Atari's Gravitar. The challenge and depth were way ahead of its time.

[@TheCRTman]

This is outstanding! I have always been curious about Baby Pac-Man and love playing it annually at the CA Extreme arcade convention, however I never get enough practice to really know how the mechanics of the game work. I see some of your strategies and they are very impressive, especially the hilarious tunnel speed! This pinball emulator does a great job showcasing the game as well. I cringed so hard at the death at 23:39, I was practically yelling earlier "GET IT! GET IT!" for the blue target in the middle, ugh that hurt so bad.

[@detonator2112]

Thanks man. If you go through my videos you'll find out that I was an arcade games freak back in my youth. I mastered a LOT of games. But this is one of the most underrated masterpieces ever created. It's not just a Pac-Man game, it's a strategy-skill-tactics game and requires a lot of skill to learn. Funny thing is, my record in the real machine was about 4.5 million. I completed a lot more mazes than in this demonstration game on VPinMAME. And yes I was consulting with the authors of this table to make sure this plays as authentically as possible. Thanks for the comment, much appreciated.

[@TheCRTman]

I'll have to check them out. The only classic game I've mastered was probably Pole Position II. There's plenty I'm really great at (especially Gyruss & Galaxian), but not untouchable. I agree, I first read about Baby Pac-Man about 10 years ago and was shocked by how amazing & underrated it was. I love how you did twice as well on the real deal vs. MAME.

[@detonator2112]

@@TheCRTman Suzuka and SeaSide were crazy difficult in Pole Position II. Fuji and Test I was able to master hahah.

[@TheCRTman]

@@detonator2112 I agree 100%. Seaside I was able to do well when I was a kid, but not anymore lol. Suzuka was more difficult even back in the day. And yes, I probably have one of the highest Mame scores for Test (90,750) and 88-something for Fuji lol.

[@YokozunaNumber1]

I owned the actual cabinet when I was a kid, and even though I only had it for a short time (Dad hated it and traded the dealer for a "Guzzler"), I remember it fondly.

[@e.j5813]

This game looks pretty cool. I mean a arcade and a pinball at the same the time? Awesome!

[@SSKO2]

This is one of the Pac-Man games that I have never played

[@jadstudiosofficial]

Neither have I

[@asaelpolanco8151]

Does anyone know that this was one of the few Pac-Man games to have Midway's license of Pac-Man terminated by Namco?

[@detonator2112]

Bally Midway also had Mr & Mrs Pac-Man pinball. How did it effect anything to get their "license terminated"?

[@asaelpolanco8151]

@@detonator2112 // Unauthorized sequels. In fact, check Wikipedia.

[@danhouse1989]

Bally Midway only had the license to distribute. They thought that Namco wasn't putting games out fast enough so there's three unlicensed Pacman games as a result; Baby Pacman, Professor Pacman and one other game.

[@asaelpolanco8151]

@@danhouse1989 // Jr. Pac-Man?

[@MikelineTV]

*Pac-Land?*

[@tidalboxer]

This game is hard AF.

[@SpeedyNinja1152]

Imagine if there was a version of Baby Pac Man that looked more like the Original Pac Man.

[@Dr.ruby7LT]

Man, l always wanna play that game. And the Mr. & Mrs. Pac-Man Pinball too.

[@celinesenden4142]

Thats amazing

[@detonator2112]

Both are available in Visual Pinball + PinMAME. Good luck!

[@annamals007]

Can you upload more of this please? It brings back so many childhood memories.

[@detonator2112]

Install Visual Pinball and VPinMAME and play it yourself. :)

[@annamals007]

@@detonator2112 Does that work on mac as well?

[@detonator2112]

@@annamals007 I'm not familiar with Mac but I think you can have built-in PC on modern Macs as well. Ask in that VP Forums. Cheers.

[@michaelblair5566]

This is one verson of Pac Man I never played. I of course played the original and MS Pac Man. Yes, I am old!

[@shawnbrasuell8951]

I have never played this either and I'm 53. I don't even think I have ever seen an actual physical version of this game.

[@kingporter67]

WOW, over 1.7 million points, what a super video!!

[@eskwadrat]

Most fun Pac-Man

[@giggs-chan2004]

They should have it so when you’re in the video mode the screen will zoom in and when you’re in pinball mode, the screen will zoom out.

[@kagechu2005BISVG]

I might as well be wishing for more pinball-arcade hybrids in the future right about now…

[@Koettnylle]

This combination is so wild

[@firstpitstop]

Great playing I miss this game. I really want to play this game again. When I was a kid I played it for a while then it broke and then they removed it and I never saw it again. Do you know if it's posible to play this game in a Atgames Legends Ultimate arcade? I have one and would love to add this game on my cab to be able to play.

[@KGershkoff]

I JUST played this over the weekend at Free Play Florida. Got 380K on it. This game IS underrated and a lot of fun to play!

[@detonator2112]

It is indeed a great game. Very tactical approach is needed if you want to go further. I love it too. Cheers.

[@KGershkoff]

@@detonator2112 Wish I knew what that approach was ;)

[@ultramaster2o1studios53]

My favorite Pac-Man arcade game!

[@detonator2112]

Yes. Mine too. It's an amazing strategy game. The mazes are legendary too. Cheers.

[@plushbatfan]

@detonator2112 Do you like Barney the Purple Dinosaur?

[@celinesenden4142]

My favorite pac-man game is jr pac-man from the original arcade version

[@sepplee5812]

Great gameplay. You really mastered this one. The slingshots seem to be very weak, though. Is that on purpose to add more skill and decrease the amount of luck of this game? Not complaining, you played awesome, I am just curious if this is standard on these devices or if it is a change you did yourself.

[@detonator2112]

Thanks. The slingshot were weak in the original game. They didn't operate like standard pinball slingshots. At least that's how I remember it.

[@aaronwadzinski5761]

I have an actual Baby Pac at home, and the slingshots are not powered kickers, just a rubber ring.

[@detonator2112]

@@aaronwadzinski5761 Yeah that's how I remembered it. Great game by the way you're lucky. I think I played through about 10 more mazes in the real machine, scored almost 4 million. Cheers.

[@calebproductions5970]

I can't find these anymore they are extremely rare.

[@juanperez772]

I am a big fan of baby Pac-Man. I have a visual pinball cabinet and want to install baby Pac-Man. I used the standard keyboard setup with pinball x but I want to use a joystick for the video portion of the game could you tell me what joystick you use and if you have a similar setup thank you in advance

[@detonator2112]

I used the arrow buttons on the keyboard. I have no idea how to add a joystick. Ask in the VP Forums. Cheers!

[@jeffkaczmarek3577]

Holding up one flipper to bounce it over to the other when the ball is coming down the fruits or tunnel lane doesn't work on every machine irl. I've played 4, 2 where it did and 2 where the gap between the ball guide and fat end of the flipper bat was too big and it would just bounce up off the rubber either down the drain or out of control.

[@detonator2112]

I have played 4-5 real machines and it worked on every single of them. Some of them probably have adjusted flippers. I guess that'd be the easy way to increase difficulty. Cheers.

[@VJFranzK]

It's much more visible than the real cabinet was! (I've often wondered: why did they use a lower spec computer for the screen portion? Was it just cost cutting, thinking we'd not notice)

[@detonator2112]

Yeah but the Pac-Man game itself was very challenging and good. And they used cleverly those three mazes in the game. The walls got invisible and there was a lot of nice, ever changing color combinations when you advanced. It's been so long but I remember completing at least 20 mazes in the real game. I always loved this game, it had very special atmosphere and it was genuinely hard.

[@smaybius]

The video portion is powered by the same VDP as the Colecovision and MSX, and the audio is powered by a Motorola 6803 that still manages to run the Williams GWAVE engine that's originally meant for the higher spec 6808.

[@karisasani7006]

28:04 Im guessing this is meant to be the "Kill screen"

[@mr10tomidnight]

This is the hardest PacMan game and my least favorite game. It is hard to get just one power pellet let alone all four. If you don't have all four power pellets you are pretty much screwed. This Baby PacMan has a secret and that is you can save your power pellets to the next level. I have yet to see the level where the ghosts don't change at all

[@MisterVercetti]

They probably never do in this game; because of the way the ghosts move, energizers are practically required just to navigate the maze safely. A point where the ghosts no longer turn would be an effective kill screen, since it would be virtually impossible to reach the upper half of the maze.

[@detonator2112]

@@MisterVercetti That's big part of the fun. You really have to earn the power pellets in the pinball part. Not easy but doable as the video shows. There is a certain learning curve in this game. Not the easiest but that's why it has long term appeal. Cheers.

[@dholmlund]

I wish there were more arcade-pinball hybrids!! Imagine if there was one for Galaga!! :D :D

[@detonator2112]

There is "Granny and the Gators" which is based on this same platform. It's nothing that great though.

[@ffmax55]

Baby Pac Man a été conçu par Midway sans autorisation de Namco.

[@Kimarnic]

Why didn't Grayfruit download this instead of using Mame

[@Dogecoinmuskelon]

I cant get this game to work on the latest VPX

[@BokBarber]

It seems like this game was a commercial failure for a few competing reasons, but one of the leading ones was that the electronics of the day were too unreliable, and the machine was out of order too often for arcade operators to keep it around. Does anyone else think that a machine like this could be successfully built today with the more reliable components we have available, and that it would have some success in the resurging arcade scene? We already have those real life pong machines popping up everywhere and pinball machines with screens and minor video interaction: something like this with full pinball/video game integration seems ripe to bust into that scene.

[@detonator2112]

Could be. But it was the most popular game in my local arcade back in the day. I don't remember it being out of order many times. But maybe the arcade repairman was good. :)

[@eskwadrat]

Insufficient validation and testing of the design always results in premature failures, whether done today or 30 yrs ago.

[@evildeceptigod3743]

Classic 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@yaywhewclips242]

this was an awesome game in the arcades, yet, the pinball part was prone to damage a LOT!

[@detonator2112]

Yeah. This PinMAME version doesn't have the same issues. Honestly, it plays amazingly close to the original.

[@Comeonfhqwhgads95]

now that I think about it, it’s a little disappointing they never ported this game to the DS. It would’ve been neat if the gameplay was at the top and the pinball stuff was at the bottom

[@ericagape67]

AWESOME, thanks for sharing the video. 😎

[@commandershirakamifubukiav9680]

my first Arcade game ever i play in 1980 this is so nostalgia

[@PigDan]

Wow, that's fantastic.

[@MitsuSV]

Hi, how do you put the dark background and make the screen appear in the machine? The screen pops up as another window and I can't open them at the same time

[@detonator2112]

Hi, it's been years since I installed it. I think you had to include border to the VpinMAME DMD and then shrink it by keeping the mouse button pressed. Good luck.

[@stevechapman9016]

Could you please reveal how to get this? Thanks

[@detonator2112]

You need Visual Pinball and Visual PinMAME installed. Click "SHOW MORE" on the description and you'll get the links. Well here's the table again. www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=38512

[@lordkandar]

According to that thread, the Visual PinMAME installer has a trojan.

[@detonator2112]

@@lordkandar Really? Visual Pinball is very old and popular gaming platform and I seriously doubt it. Maybe your antivirus is just giving false positives? Ask in the VP Forums, they'll advice you.

[@toriofthestarpalace]

Trying to download the VPinMame and VPinballX thing, and it gets close, buuut it hangs on this "Starting Game Scripts..." thing. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

[@detonator2112]

Have you installed the game ROMs correctly to the VPinMAME\ROMS folder?

[@MSAPtube]

I remember seeing this game in arcades and Showbiz Pizza and there was always a group of people watching or waiting to play. It was hard to get a turn to learn it! 😂

[@MotoSteve]

wow great job

[@suelee3391]

How can you score that high?

[@detonator2112]

Practice makes perfect. :)

[@detonator2112]

I used to spend my youth playing this. I scored over 4 million in the real arcade machine.

[@ahbeef]

Hello, I've been trying to get this work all day today but no amount of fiddling with settings is solving my issue. I'm running the game through VPinballX, and that loads up the table just fine, but the video game part will sometimes be placed in a random position, or usually not be visible at all. I can hear that the game is running (usually) but cant actually see the game. Do you know how to fix this? Or at least how to put the table itself into a windowed mode so I can just drag the game over top of it?

[@smoothe8080]

I got it to work by pressing f1 after launching table and checking the "show DMD" box and unchecking the "use external DMD" box.

[@detonator2112]

It's a bit complicated but you CAN get it work. Use Visual Pinball X (VPX) and newest PinMAME. Both have to be installed separately.

[@berrybashfan3299]

0:22 Powerpuff Girls Pinball (Sega Interactive)

[@EarthMonsterAZ]

This is awesome. Unfortunately I just can't get the arcade portion to show up any where and the dmd is just blank. I have the table and the rom going and can play with the game and the pinball portion. Wondering what I'm missing.

[@detonator2112]

Other people had issues with it but got it to work finally. Ask in the VPForums. They will advice. Are you sure you have the VPX program? Try playing with the DMD settings.

[@EarthMonsterAZ]

@@detonator2112 yeah I finally got it up and running. Not sure what I did but it works now.

[@detonator2112]

@@EarthMonsterAZ Amazing. Enjoy the conversion, it's pretty damn good.

[@edgardeitz5746]

Why hasn't anyone tried making other pinball / video game hybrid titles?

[@ZyXFNF]

Huh I like this game

[@lordkandar]

The ball seems way heavier than the one in the actual game. Way louder too.

[@detonator2112]

Hmm... good observation. I never thought about that.

[@cecil165]

You can change this in the emulator, go in Preferences - Physics Options.

[@thatguyineverycommentssection]

underrated game

[@vortexlord1127]

I just now got it on my laptop. But how can I get this dmd thing to work?

[@detonator2112]

You need Visual Pinball, PinMAME and the roms for Baby Pacman.

[@vortexlord1127]

@@detonator2112 already got all that. But how can I get the dmd to work?

[@detonator2112]

@@vortexlord1127 Does the DMD appear and PinMAME starts normally without any errror messages? Try right clicking over the DMD and -> restore window size. Try also "add dmd border" and then drag it to correct size with a mouse.

[@vortexlord1127]

@@detonator2112 well I did get the ROM. But I can't tell which one is the DMD.

[@vortexlord1127]

@@detonator2112 and yes it does appear in MAME and start normal.

[@junioru2adj395]

Nunca tinha visto 😅👍 bem legal

[@robertkovarna8294]

Man, trying to make an account to download the stuff is hard. Just doesn't seem to want to work.

[@jamesg1827]

This so dope 🔥

[@mike_yarddogg]

Shouldn't the ball...be *yellow?* 🙄

[@nyastclair8174]

Ok here's a mystery. How did you get VPX to display the Baby Pacman videogame portion on the backboard in the game? I can't see the scoreboard or the screen for any of the games.

[@detonator2112]

I installed the new version of VPX / VpinMAME and had this problem too. But I figured it out somehow. Maybe right clicking the DMD and "show DMD border" or whatever. I'll investigate.

[@nyastclair8174]

@@detonator2112 Yeah I couldn't figure it out. Some of the tables do have the scores and others don't. The one's I really want to play are the ones that don't unfortunately :*( lol

[@nyastclair8174]

@@detonator2112 The entire process could be more streamlined but it's still impressive none the less.

[@detonator2112]

@@nyastclair8174 Ask in the VPForums. Maybe they'll help. The problem arised for me with the new version of VPX and VpinMAME. This video was made with an older version. Maybe older versions of VPX/VMP are available? I'm not that active in the VPForums myself... just love this one.

[@nyastclair8174]

@@detonator2112 I got it all figured out. I figured out how to run the tables in windowed fullscreen and I can now see the score on every game and even the videogame portion of Baby Pac Man. Any interesting tables I should check out? So far I love Haunted House, Theatre of Magic and The Simpsons Pinball Party.

[@teruienages962]

I used to play this game all the time at Chuck E. Cheese

[@bemblake6390]

Somehow I can't seem to keep the pinmame portion to stay with the table. How can I fix that?

[@detonator2112]

What do you mean? You can drag the PinMame screen with a mouse. I recall you had to check "use DMD border" or whatever to resize it to fit the background. If these won't work ask in the VP Forums and they'll help.

[@axovoxel]

I've tried to download the files in the description, but whenever I try, the website says that I don't have permission....

[@axovoxel]

Is there possibly anywhere else I could get the files?

[@ahbeef]

just make an account on the forum and verify with your email, then you'll be able to download it once you're signed in.

[@axovoxel]

Oh, I didn't realize you had to make an account, Thanks!

[@ahbeef]

make sure you're signed in, and then open the links from the description. if you just go back it'll sign you out again

[@axovoxel]

I figured out the problem, hints why I deleted the previous comment, sorry for the confusion.

[@DeadCell33]

So I just got this working but I was wondering how do I make the second screen bigger?

[@detonator2112]

You mean the video game screen? Check "add window border" from PinMAME and pull it to correct size.

[@DeadCell33]

@@detonator2112 Yes, everyone else on KZbin showed the game off with the default screen size, which in my opinion is way to small. Thanks for the help.

[@detonator2112]

@@DeadCell33 No problem. Did you get it sorted out?

[@DeadCell33]

@@detonator2112 Yes, I was able to get to a screen size and position like how you had it. Thanks again.

[@thesupermegagamer8397]

Hey, im planning on downloading this game but I don’t know how to get it set up, can you please make a tutorial for how to get it working?

[@detonator2112]

VP Forums has all tutorials. Good luck.

[@thesupermegagamer8397]

@@detonator2112 ok thanks

[@andrearamsey1978]

Gottilieb would be so jealous

[@LONEWLF]

Never played it

[@celinesenden4142]

A pac-man pinball arcade machine

[@dantewaldrop704]

It’s the dark souls of pac man but also underrated

[@GATURKS]

KZbinR GATURKS SAYS: I REMEMBER THIS!!!!!

[@tatordgoat4349]

Dang that’s in good condition!

[@detonator2112]

It's an emulator, not the actual game. :)

[@robloxfan23_]

18:29

[@jessicaaustin6730]

Are you liked baby Pac man

[@phreakwars]

Which emulator is this?

[@detonator2112]

VPinMAME + Visual Pinball X. All links are in the video description. Click "SHOW MORE" to see. Cheers.

[@phreakwars]

@@detonator2112 Oh duh, thanks, why didn't I think of doing that in the first place?

[@tammycam4795]

This a pinball game

[@Chino196]

How do i play this?

[@detonator2112]

See the video description.

[@donaldscottishengine]

that pac-man art makes me feel so uncomfortable

[@storiesfromdifferenteras]

This could've been on the DS

[@TheCRTman]

Never thought of that, what a brilliant idea!

[@rio1474]

I never played Pac-Man arcared games😢

[@Darkescape4D]

Bandai Namco

[@mojik64live]

Saludos

[@TankTheMouse]

Hybrid game!

[@mendezfamily2301]

Wii games are coming to Nintendo switch online plus expansion pack series 1 and 2 you're the games that you can play it launched note this game uses motion controls Mario Super sluggers play the game of baseball using motion controls Wii Sports leave five different sports games Pikmin grab the various Pikmin and hide them in your capsule and then let them go away petrus deluxe arrange the following tetriminos becomes real Wii party Lena series of mini games with cooperative play Wii fit use yourself to move and amen the body of circles Wii u games are being added to Nintendo switch online Street 1 and 2 show me the games that you can play at lunch Super Mario 3D World Awakening the brixie's to Bowser and his friends Pikmin 3 Super Mario Brothers go over 180 courses to stop them once and for all the Mario kart 8 race in this Mario kart game ever created for a portable and TV Metroid fuchsian oh no it looks like there is many metalloids inside of Samus Aran's body you can play these games anytime anywhere just like you could with me after this presentationyou can play Wii-U games with Nintendo switch online series 1 and 2 or play boqui and Wii u games with a Nintendo switch online plus expansion pack series 1 and 2 Nintendo

[@oculosprudentium8486]

This is not a boring game. This is a very boring game!!