Babylon 5: Everything You Didn't Know | SYFY WIRE

[@dhvienna]

R.I.P. Andreas Katsulas, Michael O'Hare, Jerry Doyle, Stephen Furst, and Richard Biggs. You will be missed.

[@mgtowdarrelldundee8643]

And zathras too

[@mgtowdarrelldundee8643]

And Zack Allen assistant to chief garabaldi

[@dhvienna]

@@mgtowdarrelldundee8643 Jeff Conaway and Tim Choate, such loss tied to one show.

[@Chase0420]

We'll see them again. Beyond the rim

[@paulpisano8538]

it is depressing and makes it hard to watch the show. JMS is tops in my book for what he did for o'hare. saddest loss imho. the last straw that broke my back was the loss of jerry doyle. i liked garibaldi.

[@kirk001]

G'Kar becomes so noble (and yet very funny) brings me to tears thinking about Andreas Katsulas' performance. RIP.

[@perfectsplit5515]

We are a dying race, so are the Centuari. Until all of creation falls down around us? Some must be sacrificed if all are to be saved.

[@dropdead234]

G'kar and Lando in the elevator....If you can't laugh at that, check your pulse.

[@williamjablonsky5128]

He WAS the show for me.

[@nickd5158]

The expected bad guy from season one becomes the best good guy ever. Amazing writing.

[@modisp]

"Put hand on the book. You want to be a president?" "Yes" "OK, lets go eat"

[@Keihryon]

"Well, where was I? Yes. The War. The Humans, I think, knew that they were doomed. But, where another race would surrender to despair, the humans fought back with even greater strength. They made the Minbari fight for every inch of space. In my life I have never seen anything like it. They would weep, they would pray, they would say goodbye to their loved ones and then throw themselves without fear or hesitation into the very face of Death, itself. Never Surrendering. No-one who saw them fighting against the inevitable, could help but be moved to tears by their courage, their stubborn nobility. When they ran out of ships, they used guns. When they ran out of guns, they used knives, and sticks, and bare hands. They were, magnificent. I only hope that when it is my time, I may die with half as much dignity as I saw in their eyes at the end. They did this for two years. They never ran out of courage. But, in the end, they ran out of time." Molari comments on the Earth Minbari War.

[@Chase0420]

My favorite line from the whole series

[@donaldgrant9067]

Thank you. I remembered that and could remember how it went..

[@Keihryon]

@@donaldgrant9067 do a youtube search on the last line in my comment, the full clip uses that as the title.

[@perfectsplit5515]

"They lack conformity" "They are ruled by passions" "And that is what makes them so great. Their lack of conformity. The ability to fight against impossible odds. Those passions that we deplore have driven them to their place in the stars. If they have any failing, it is that they do not know how great they are."

[@catjudo1]

"Never give up, never surrender!" - Captain Jason Nesmith

[@cmundon]

“I love this show”, then mispronounces the lead female character’s name

[@justmythought7658]

LOL I guess, she is to young to have seen the show. But strange, that no one corrected her. Could it be, that no one on set really saw the show?

[@mattman4673]

Yeah they lost a little credibility...

[@geobrower3069]

Her way of presenting this show and it's history is almost making her presentation a comedy show.

[@andreclement6861]

She keeps mispronouncing Paramount too. "Paramont"

[@jasonatkins6111]

I dont think its her fault. English is not her first language. Ebonics and SciFi dont really mix well. I thought it was strange back person doing a scifi show recap. This is cultural appropriation. Reported and flagged for possible violation of KZbin policies.

[@ChrisC30]

I hate it when they have someone who didn't watch a show talk about it. They get details wrong. They act like they care, but they clearly don't, which make it all the worse. It couldn't possibly be difficult to find a fan of B5 at a sci-fi media outlet. That means SYFY WIRE didn't care to look. If you don't care about sci-fi, what do you care about?

[@electric-man5113]

Changing their name told the world what they care about. Marketing, ad revenues, sprinkle in some left wing BS and we got what we got....

[@medinnus]

Clearly she never watched the show, especially when she mispronounces the character name of one of the most important roles.

[@Theggman83]

Money.

[@theonlymatthew.l]

This video should be renamed "Everything you didn't know about Babylon 5 if you've never watched an episode" and as others have pointed out the hostess of this episode obviously never watched the show. And given her other pronunciation issues, probably didn't watch Star Trek either. Props to go to the editing staff for letting that stuff get out onto the finished product. Great subject matter, and I was looking forward to this video. Unfortunately in my opinion the video was lackluster at best.

[@RecklessFables]

I think the script and editing were great and the actress did a great job considering she was, at most, in diapers when the original show came out. It would have been nice if someone checked the pronunciations.

[@francisdhomer5910]

I felt the same way. As she kept going I kept saying, "I knew that" then "I knew that" Then I thought, "I must be areall Bab 5 geek.... Alright neat!" YEah nothing in this was new to me, but still a great watch as a recap. Of course I'm still trying to figure out when Sheridan was a Commander. Did he magically transform into a Captain as he stepped on the station? Did they strip him of his rank when he left his ship then gave it back to him when he approached Bab 5? Did the great machine change the timeline? Poor Zathras, no one listens to Zathras, Zathras says he captain they say Zather wrong. Zather has access to great marchin and fix.

[@Phatman2167]

More like "Everything we can say over and over again and not actually talk about what the show really was about and how to get all the names, plotlines, and details wrong."

[@perfectsplit5515]

@@francisdhomer5910 Maybe she was referring to Lieutenant Commander Sheridan while he was the acting skipper of the E.A.S. Lexington in its crippled state taking that desperate gambit against the flagship of a technologically superior alien culture.

[@gaddob3363]

Whoever researched B5 for this video had never actually seen it either; when the characters of Londo and G'Kar are introduced we're told that the are antagonists because their races are at war, when in reality they were antagonistic for historical reasons from the onset of the series. Any who had watched two or three episodes would have known that. It's a clickbait video, they probably have a very tight budget for each one they produce, so quality is going to suffer. Still, you'd think they'd have at least one knowledgeable person on their staff.

[@wrboyles]

Please watch a show before you review it. Basic pronunciation would've been appreciated.

[@chrisdeterman3247]

The worst part about Babylon 5, is that it never spawned continuing franchises like Star Trek. It deserves more story.

[@coriolass]

There was briefly a spinoff, I believe it was called Excalibur, following the crew of an EA vessel trying to track down a cure for the plague released on Earth by the Shadows allies. It didn't last long, not even sure it made it a full season. In an odd coincidence (?) the actor who played the captain on Excalibur and Bruce Boxlietner both appeared on the series Chuck as fathers of the lead characters, as well as (if memory serves) the actor who played the captain of the Enterprise from ST-E.

[@vicsrealms]

@@coriolass It was called Crusade, Excalibur was the ship.

[@coriolass]

@@vicsrealms Yeah it's been a while, and it honestly wasn't so memorable for me. Thanks for the correction, I may look it up and give it another try.

[@dmdoug66]

@@coriolass the captain of the Excalibur was Lumbergh from Office Space.

[@coriolass]

@@dmdoug66 Yup, that's the guy

[@altairprime7895]

Some of the monologues of G'Kar and Londo are words for the ages. So well written and then brought to life by the actors.

[@macswanton9622]

They handled excellent script writing with Shakespearean skill. Always brings me back again

[@CliffHilliard]

"Everything you already know about Babylon 5"

[@KitShannon]

Yeah, this video is clickbait. There wasn't one fact that anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the show didn't know. Add to that the fact, that the presenter clearly never watched the show, badly mispronouncing some major names.

[@Sardious]

@@KitShannon yeah regular syfy crap. I got clickbaited and it ended up as expected

[@SeaJay_Oceans]

The STAR STUFF quote is from Carl Sagan kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn2znKN4g5uVe6s

[@mlowry]

The script of this clickbait video was evidently written by a committee, and the presenter had clearly never seen the show. Just awful.

[@Tedinator01]

Michael A. Lowry When she mispronounced Delenn, I wrote her off as someone who never saw the show.

[@GregsWineStories]

Babylon is not the best Scifi Tv-Series... It is the best Sci-fi AND the best Tv-Series.

[@perfectsplit5515]

Even though Star Trek: TNG had a greater cultural impact, I truly believe that the stories of Babylon 5 are superior to those of TNG. The great sci-fi epics are: -classic Star Trek -classic Star Wars Trilogy -Star Trek: TNG -Babylon 5

[@testicularoxide5055]

Amen!!!!!!

[@kreaturekie6753]

Except for the cast and racial diversity the original Star Trek really didn't do anything for me as a best TV scifi of all time When I look back at the things that Captain Kirk did he wasn't even following the prime directive is laid out in the Next Generation Don't get me wrong I love Star Trek for every bit of it every bit But to me the Next Generation set a tone for what I would hope Humanity could actually achieve

[@MechaRandom42]

Ok, the actress reading this script has clearly never seen Babylon 5. Sorry, but you don't mispronounce Delenn if you've heard it. I was gonna give a pass for her saying "Star Track", as it could have been just my hearing. Also, Babylon 5 is probably better than Star Trek now that we have turds like Discovery in the franchise.

[@stevenp3176]

MechaRandom42 I would love a Babylon 5 reboot if they wouldn’t screw it up.

[@onyx081]

Take a Valium and relax, it's not that serious

[@RedCatHabitat]

and 'Paramont' instead of Paramount. To be fair somebody should have helped the talent with the terminology. I think as a presenter goes she did good , but -yea somebody should have caught those lol

[@MechaRandom42]

@@onyx081 oh you'd hate my channel if you think I'm upset here, you'll hate my rants about Star Trek Discovery

[@rcaminos]

And mispronouncing Lorian. No way she's seen the show. Not a big deal though as it's still a great summation of B5

[@Juan_Sanchez-Vililobos_Ramirez]

As a fan of Babylon 5 when I was in my early-mid 20s, I was mildly interested in this video. After a couple minutes, it wasn't really impressing me that much. Ya totally lost me and I shut it off at 3:27, when it became painfully and embarrassingly evident that the presenter had no functioning knowledge of the series, just a script. "Who can forget Daylen?" The better question is, How do you ask that question when you can't say the name of one of the most important characters of the series? The Sci Fi channel was so good, before it had a stroke and became syfy then had another stroke and tried to become "trendy and viral".

[@curtismathews1582]

Thank you. I made comment on character name pronunciation in my comment. Yes, Sci Fi lost its ever loving mind when it became SyFy and forgot what Science Fiction was all about!

[@JerseyDevilBM]

@@curtismathews1582 Oh, you mean spy movies and Fast and Furious CSI shows and all sorts of movies that have no relationship to sci-fi at all (well, the stunts in F&F may qualify as SF since they are about as removed from reality as a Vorlon is)? I remember when Sci-Fi (LOATHE the current spelling!) used to dig up long-cancelled SF TV shows, introducing a lot of people to series they might never have heard of before. Now I hardly ever watch it, usually just glancing at the titles it's showing as I look for more appetizing entertainment...

[@nonoyobizness9090]

Dalen?.... nope. Chick's never watched it.

[@erikrupp692]

Yeah, I caught that, too. Talking head. Video host reading someone else's words. That's fine. Someone's got to do it.

[@eandersson]

Yeah she kinda lost all credibility on that one.

[@MrTiliceahorea]

That and much more! Lauren, for example! 13:15 Realy? Even Minbari was mangled a couple of times! She is excellent at giving the impression that she watched/liked the show, but these small slips, where she reads names in English show that nobody instructed her on how they are spoken in that universe!

[@testicularoxide5055]

Ugh, fake ass talking heads... Noticed that n said very same! 🙄

[@augurseer]

Be thankful that anyone is remembering our show. Let's not cut this nice lady down.

[@Kyehlar]

Para"mont"? Daylen? Star Track? Munbari? Seriously, nobody does any research these days. This is like Kennedy back in the day having no idea why Martin Landau was at the Mission: Impossible movie premiere.

[@francisdhomer5910]

Para'mont? Don't they eat rotting flesh and smell? Or do they kill it first then wait for it to rot then blame the family for it's bad taste. Or am I thinking of the Da'izzys?

[@saiyansomething73]

Ah yes, I think Mr. Landeau was about 5 seconds from slapping Kennedy's nerdy glasses off her face. Classic generational ignorance.

[@andrewszigeti2174]

It's been 25 years? Really? Someone get me my cane....

[@voltairedecent255]

You get it. My oxygen mask and tank won't reach that far...

[@etheralwizard]

Some days I thought that I might need a cane but I have been getting outside more this year! After seeing so many episodes out of order, I got sequential, watched "The Gathering", "In The Beginning" and am on Season 1 working my way through Season 5 in sequential order! Now it is clicking much better!

[@TeamDoc312]

Ummmm, "Things SYFY WIRE left out!" ...Well, one important one at least. Michael Ohare, who played JEffrey Sinclair wasn't a trap door for JMS. Michael suffered from mental health issues that he admitted couldn't let him get past another season of filming everyday and the energy it took to doing it. Yes, he came back for certain story arcs, but not ones that had protracted filming requirements.

[@fwootamala]

O'hare wasn't a trap door, O'hare's real life issues required JMS to trigger the character's pre-planned trap door.

[@lyncat]

@Carlos Hernandez His 3rd season finale was a great performance, maybe the best I had seen of him.

[@mikeaaron2112]

Leave it to Syfy wire to make a video about a show I love painful to watch.

[@snooze821]

The syfi channel couldn't find a person that watched a scifi show to celebrate it?

[@nobodyimportant2470]

@@snooze821 I'm sure Sci-Fi channel could. SyFy on the other hand has no clue because they think only nerds watch science fiction shows.

[@bbbabrock]

Vorlons are not angels. Angels are Vorlons. It's not precisely t same thing.

[@rayniblick5099]

In the series and that episode each race saw the exposed Kosh as their interpretation of angels.

[@perfectsplit5515]

You know what is at stake. Valeri! G'Lan. Droschalla. And what did you see, Ambassador Mollari? I saw nothing.

[@dongilleo9743]

@@perfectsplit5515 That was an amazing moment in the show. I have wondered if he really didn't see anything, emphasizing that he alone of all the others had no "spiritual" core, that his people truly were lost; or if he did see something, and it gave him a terrible awaking that, between the Vorlons and the Shadows, he had aligned himself with and made a deal with the devil.

[@kreaturekie6753]

Actually vorlons are neither there what they want you to see

[@bbbabrock]

@@dongilleo9743 I'm pretty sure he saw nothing. As I recall there was a series of point of view shots that showed what each race saw and when we saw what Londo saw, nothing was there, where t others saw an angelic being of their own race.

[@rodtee4894]

The "actress" has NEVER seen a sci-fi TV show, let alone B5. Nor does her writer. She's under the impression that the Earth "Mumbari" war was shown in sequential order.

[@banshee6k]

Gotta say that this show was one of the best of the best of the best of sci-fi shows of all time. This hostess needs to watch the show so that she can can pronounce character names (Delenn) properly. Although I am glad that this segment discussed the ideas of "trapdoors" as actor Micheal O'Hare (Cmdr. Jeffrey Sinclair) dealt with some very tragic mental health issues resulting in him leaving the show after season 1 and eventually being the cause of his death. JM Stracsynski handled his exit with extreme professionalism and grace and still managed to tell an AMAZING story!!!!

[@perfectsplit5515]

"actor Micheal O'Hare (Cmdr. Jeffrey Sinclair) dealt with some very tragic mental health issues" So sad that all that torture and beating from the Minbari Gray Council did that to him. :(

[@onebry]

A "deep-dive" that is painfully shallow.. I suppose you wouldn't know these facts if you never watched the show..

[@donaldpaluga]

I think we need to tell her the Babylon 5 mantra

[@nobodyimportant2470]

So shallow that they didn't even mention the reveal of the Sinclair's future in the pilot episodes. kind of pointless with how old the show is but spoilers below When Kosh meet the assassin who was disguised as Sinclair, Kosh greeted him as Valen.

[@commonsensegunlaw]

Precisely. False advertising, more of a general overview by someon who didin't remember too much, or never got into the show, seemingly.

[@usbiv223]

That is a tremendously Russian attitude.

[@TechnoMageB5]

...like her pronunciation of Delenn.

[@thejaredmyers]

I love this show but this video should have been filmed with someone who knows the show or at minimum was a fan

[@PracticalKnow]

They were too busy virtue signaling to be concerned about such matters

[@macswanton9622]

Mumbari, indeed...

[@meatrace]

Or just did the 15 minutes of research it would take to pronounce words correctly.

[@jefff3886]

@@meatrace I have a pre-prepared rant for this: "It's Trek, not Track. Trek, as in journey. A voyage, to the stars. Star Trek. Clear now?"

[@Joseph32547]

3:27 day lynn?

[@sciguyjeff]

It's such a shame that so many B5 actors have died way before their times

[@theriverwoodtrader4433]

B5 was one of the best written and all encompassing TV shows of its and the decade after. It was just realistic enough, just dark enough, just political enough, just religious enough, and just long enough to be believable. I miss that show.

[@robertmelvin7908]

"Everything You Didn't Know" if you never saw the show.

[@ZlothZloth]

And spoilers to go with them.

[@ageofgreen99]

Who are the moonbari? Who Daylyn? What is Star Track?

[@TheRealCantaraBella]

😂😂😂😂

[@mjsoukup]

This is what happens when your narrator has never seen the source material 😂

[@neilkiser458]

I almost bought it until I was told about the new character "Daylen".

[@HERITAGE12]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@davidhelmer9124]

“SYFI channel was our last, best hope for peace. It failed” This video left me very disappointed.

[@Slappysan]

Mispronouncing a major character's name is soooo distracting. So...3:37 is as far as I go.

[@Doublebarreledsimian]

Yup tells me the presenter never saw an episode and is just reading it off some card.

[@48crewdude]

You should hear her pronounce Minbari at 4:53.

[@darrenkrivit6854]

You lasted longer than I did😁

[@MechaRandom42]

yup

[@Otokichi786]

I put that down to Ebonics creeping in on Gozilla feet.;(

[@jerryy2147]

you told me nothing i didnt know

[@RecklessFables]

To be fair, you probably watched the show when it was new and went to the original bulletin board to read the JMS speaks posts, eh? :)

[@Winterydee]

Ok, I didn't know that the flight/space suits were real, needed water cooling & cost $3,000 each. But everything else was a give me if you even casually watched the show.

[@JBRocky007]

@@Winterydee the Star Fury patch also said ugly but well hung.

[@perfectsplit5515]

@@JBRocky007 I once read on an AOL bulletin board that NASA was considering the possibility of making real working Starfuries.

[@stevemanart]

@@RecklessFables I did. But you know how it goes on the internet.

[@Smileybeeblevrox]

Um...you got a lot of facts wrong. JMS did file suit against Paramount and won! Getting an undisclosed amount of money. They did use parts of the B5 Bible in ST:TNG and in the building blocks of ST:DS9. You probably should have looked that up instead of saying he never files suit...

[@Smileybeeblevrox]

Carlos Hernandez, get your facts straight. Look up on KZbin Red Carpet News TV interviewing Patricia Tallman about St:DS9 copying B5. There was a lawsuit. Before there was a court date, Paramount quickly settled out of court for an undisclosed amount of money without admition of guilt. JMS did file, but immediately after he did Paramount quickly settled. How do you think they got the name Dukat and Leeta on DS9 and why DS9 was on a space station and not a federation ship. Paramount stole from the B5 Bible to create cardassians/Bajorans from Centauri/Narns. Star trek continues to deny they stole anything but there was a lawsuit and JMS was paid for what Paramount did.

[@Smileybeeblevrox]

I wouldn't call it a win, odds are he got less than a million. DS9 made how many millions? Not fair compensation for these.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

@Carlos Hernandez >>> Paramount settled out of court. And Paramount being the cash cow that it is - or was - they must have known they could never win.

[@BreetaiZentradi]

@@Smileybeeblevrox I am happy with it. We got TWO great shows. JMS was able to make some money on B5. Showed us all how to do a story with a 5 year arc. Television is a better place for him doing it. Paramount took the bible and told the Trek show runners they wanted a new series. Space station, gritter than Trek. It is about the Captain, 2nd in command, and Chief of Security. The Captain becomes a prophetic religious figure. There are aliens who's race has very strong religious vibe. There is a war that builds, takes place and is resolved over the arc of the show. With those details and nothing more, they built DS9. Considered by many to be the best Trek Series. The worst DS9 episodes hold up better than the "average" TOS, TNG, VOY and ENT episodes. I don't know about a pallet full of cash, but what JMS deserves more of is recognition.

[@martyREq2]

Sinclair was a commander, Sheridan was a captain.

[@BlackEagleUSA]

You basically just layed out everything we DID know about Babylon 5

[@susandudak59]

The love story between Sheridan and Deleen was so so beautiful. The last scene where he leaves to go to his death made me cry and cry. It was so so real.

[@DropingUP]

Did the writers for this KZbin channel ever watch Babylon 5 all the way or just had a highlight real?

[@Reepicheep-1]

It's SyFy. They stopped caring about Sci Fi a long time ago.

[@hankmessaros1835]

Still one of my all time fav shows, B5 brought a lot of great things to tv, one of the best eps was all about 2 repairman on the station during a battle and normal days. It was great, thank yo to JMS. Who I have a privilege of dealing with once on line with and was nice guy

[@gups4963]

He blocked me on twitter lol. He made a smartass comment and my response was in kind, but I guess he thought I was meaning it harshly?

[@voicesoftheoutworld3617]

Wasn't that episode two or three from the finale??

[@richarddelotto2375]

When was Morden NOT a bad guy? Pretty obvious the speaker did NOT see the show.

[@deblentz7891]

In the novels, he was a member of the team that Anna Sheridan was on, and he was grieving the death of his wife and daughter, I believe. He wears a locket with their pictures in it during all of his scenes, and when confronted by Londo in the throne room, you see him fondling the locket after the island was blown up. He went to the Shadows because he never wanted to be alone again.

[@captin3149]

They showed a picture of him, but the comment was 'Villains' plural. SO the statement is still true. Also the Shadows had a differing philosophy. It wasn't 'evil' per se, but was definitely chaos. (Besides, her pronunciation of Delenn's name makes it obvious she never watched it)

[@varsityathlete9927]

@@deblentz7891 I've read the novel you refer to, JMS considers it semi-canon. so what about it he doesn't consider canon I don't know, its book 9 in the series. Another reference in the show, but for Bester, that is never mentioned in the show but is always visible is his fist hand. one of his hands is a fist and it never opens. Its related to his trauma over his choices as a psycop.

[@itchyisvegeta]

In the pilot.... when he wasn't Mr Morden.

[@realtsavo]

She said "Day-len". Enough said.

[@CaseAgainstFaith1]

Where was the part that we didn't know?

[@brendansmith3006]

Sheridan replaced Sinclair, because the actor who played Sinclair, Michael O'Hare, was diagnosed with schizophrenia. O'Hare was having paranoid delusions on the set during the first season and agreed to step away from the show to seek treatment, even though JMS offered to delay production till O'Hare could get treatment. However, O'Hare declined, not wanting to put the series, and people's jobs at risk. O'Hare died from a Heart Attack in 2012. JMS kept his mental condition secret till after O'Hare's death, but told the fans about it at Phoenix Comicon, 8 months after O'Hare's death, per O'Hare's wishes. He felt the fans deserved an explanation.

[@mcdermott817]

They need to bring this show back but have it set a few hundred years after the ending. I want to see the rise of Centauri Prime, the descendants of Sheridan and Delenn also to see the final destruction of Drahks. There is so much a new series can build off of. My favorite character G'Kar he is in my opinion the strongest and deepest character in the show.

[@rayniblick5099]

Totally agree. They could do so much and yes G'kar was a fantastic character my favorite as well.

[@perfectsplit5515]

Just realized - Optimus Prime, Rodimus Prime, Centauri Prime, Sentinel Prime, Amazon Prime

[@voltairedecent255]

G'Kar was my least favorite character at the beginning of the series. By the end, him and Londo were my two favorites.

[@MrBendybruce]

I would tell someone I was a sci fi fan and often they would say "Check out Babylon 5, it has a really great story". Many years later, I finally watched it. The first few episodes were pretty rough, but there ws something about it that suggested it was worth sticking with. Man am I glad that I did. Surely one of the greatest space opera's that will ever be made, and the standard by which all others should be judged.

[@stuntranger74]

Kosh, from beginning to tear jerking end...’NUFF SAID! I wish I had one of his suits.

[@perfectsplit5515]

"Very soon I may be asking for your help. There is a greater threat to all our races. Except perhaps for the Vorlons. I don't know what could possibly threaten them."

[@dongilleo9743]

@@perfectsplit5515 Like so many other things in the show, the Vorlons had a great storyline. They start out as this mysterious and unknown powerful race, then we are led to believe they are angels, and finally to see them as not much better, maybe worse, than the Shadows; interfering with and manipulating races. It is amazing how Kosh as a character was able to show such feeling and emotion and development, when he is just a man in a costume with no ability to show facial reactions. Despite that, we come to appreciate Kosh, that he is different than the rest of the Vorlons, that he has a personal interest in Sheridan, that he is much gentler to Lyta than his replacement is, that perhaps he even has a sense of humor. Eventually we see that the Vorlons are not indestructible or fearless, that Kosh experiences fear, that he is killed, or as Lyta says "they(the Shadows) tore him apart."

[@deaconhairco5015]

Thank you so much. This was a pleasant walk down memory lane. I loved this series.

[@FurrBeard]

OK, there are a few pronunciation issues - but overall, it's a solid piece and given how the jackasses at WB have made B5 hard for people not already familiar with it to get into the series (up until it finally landed on Amazon Prime) - there's a LOT of potential fans out there who have little idea it exists or why they should seek it out. As someone who was there *_In The Beginning_* - I have to say thank you to SyFy Wire for this; I hope it encourages people who've never seen the series to watch it. And yeah, there are some 20+ year old spoilers in here, but as with Londo's vision of his eventual death - *_how you get there_* is even more important than the spoiler. ;)

[@perfectsplit5515]

I was there, at the dawn ... of the first season of the greatest sci-fi epic of all time.

[@ScottatHouseonaHill]

B5 B4 We're through!

[@TheInnerParty]

I remember the usenet group JMS would discuss the show in real time....

[@FurrBeard]

@@TheInnerParty Certain shows now could never DARE do that.

[@mikegould6590]

G'Kar is easily the favorite. The episode where he gives that epic speech "No dictator, no invader..." is still stunning. Lots of great episodes. Though I think D'lenn's speech "If you value your lives, be somewhere else" is the most effective threat ever issued on TV.

[@Hextraordinary13]

"Vhat do you vant, you moon-faced assassin of joy?" - Londo

[@damonbryan7232]

"sometimes I talk to ceiling. Sometimes I talk to walls. Sometimes I talk to dirt. I like to talk to dirt. Dirt is use to people walking all over it. Vary sad life. Probably a very sad death. But at least there's symmetry."

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

"You take, Zathras die. You leave, Zathras die. Either way, it is bad for Zathras."

[@Zaluskowsky]

One of those guys where you from wtf to oh good to have you here.

[@psychdlc]

Zathras is finite. You are finite. This... is wrong tool.

[@conroypaw]

Everything that most B5 fans already knew. Thanks for the "totally rad" refresher.

[@randyranderson690]

This should've been titled Babylon 5: If you've never watched it, you NEED to watch it. I knew everything that was talked about so it isn't really everything I didn't know.

[@PrimeGodist]

This Daylenn sounds and looks like Delenn. Must be a relative.

[@danielfwilliams8898]

I wish they would have adapted or novelized the remaining Ideas for Crusade and the script for the proposed movie. The canon novels were really good and allowed you to see the continued growth of the character like Vir or the secret of the Technomages.

[@unlimitedrabbit]

And Bester's fate!

[@briangoss8062]

Did she actually ever watch the show? The first time she says Mimbari she pronounces it Mumbari. She also pronounces DeLenn (Duh-Lynn) as Day-Len the first time she pronounces it. She ALSO pronounces Lorien (Lore-E-N) as Loren (Lore-N)when she mentions him. Really......... She also mentions trap doors for characters and mentions SPECIFICALLY replacing Patricia Tallman's character with Andrea Thompson's character in season 1 after the premiere pilot episode. But then FAILS to mention they replace Andrea with Patricia (swapping characters back and totally dropping Andrea) in season's 2-5. Patricia had a WAY bigger character than Andrea's and you make it appear the opposite. Patricia even had MAJOR plot points and episodes centered on her character!!

[@josephh49]

Thanks for an entertaining overview. I've been a fan of B5 since the 1993 pilot, and regardless of the comments below, I appreciate that something commemorating Babylon 5 was made. It is a shame that 5 of the cast members are gone, but they live on throught the show and our remembering them. We are forever caught between tick and tock. Thank you Mr Straczynski for your vision. And persistence.

[@MShrader211]

I plan to live forever, thank you very much. :-p

[@michaeldudley6801]

By Far my favorite Television Series from when I was a teenager...

[@kennethstevenson4817]

This just wrapped up the Comet network. I forgot how good and very sad finale was.

[@kennethstevenson4817]

They started airing them all week long right after Star Gate and switched to airing back to back episodes on Weds nights and next week it starts over again.

[@fredrubble2439]

@@kennethstevenson4817 oo! Good. I caught it somewhere near the end of season 2. I have a shared TV so I miss some episodes.

[@alexwolf3684]

I love watching it on Comet, which is strange considering I have the whole series (and Crusade) on DVD.

[@Rolandbadger]

"We are made of star stuff". Quoted from Carl Sagan, in the PBS TV series Cosmos, in the early 80s.

[@michaelklapp9159]

The beard probably occurred one morning in the bathroom when he realized he was no longer a member of Earth Force and no longer HAD to shave every day to 'be in compliance'. Based on experience.

[@reinaldoalves9038]

It was simply a fantastic story. I loved the entire show and characters. Time to rewatch all of this again.... It is a pity there is no blu ray version of this...

[@johmyh14]

Rest In Light, Mira Furlan.

[@teaguehansberry3135]

My favorite episode, well that's hard to narrow down to just one but I got to give a shout out to a 1'st season episode where all the Embassadors share thier personal religious seromonies to the crew of the B-5 crew meanwhile there's a subplot where G'Kar is being target for assassination by a rival klan. This also where we see G'kar's need for his attache N'toth and were we see Londo get drunk and pass out while proclaming everything is cute while Vir Cotto excames "He's become one with his inner bieng!" Only to have Ivanva say:'He passed out!" which Vir promply responds by saying:"Well,that too!"

[@Chase0420]

I like the Earth display. Introduces them to our hundreds of religions

[@mikegrossberg8624]

"Everyone is cute! Even I am cute! But in purple I am STUNNING!" Plop

[@edwinchristensen1439]

I agree this is one of the best of the first year of B5 my favorite part is the end where we meet the various faiths of the earth a vast lineup they, go through about 20 before the episode ends and they were just getting started.

[@Keihryon]

My favorite part in that episode is when Delenn is doing her ceremony, and in the background of one of the shots you can see G'Kar switch his little red fruit with Ivanova's.

[@gregoreder8205]

"We are all gray" ... the one sentence who defines B5 for me. Every Charakter has his dark and light sides, his hero moments and his darkest hours. Nobody is totaly good or evil ... good I love this show.

[@banshee6k]

Also...Loren??? REALLY???? LO-RI-EN!!! Why didn't the producers find someone who had at least watched the series or did they just let this chick read the script without a runthrough / rehearsal first???!!!

[@sdfried4877]

banshee6k um. Diversity hire?

[@MShrader211]

Just saying... let thou who has never mispronounced another's name cast the 1st stone! It happens people, get over yourselves. :-\

[@deborahlepage1789]

Babylon 5 has always been one of my favorite sci-fi shows ever. There are so many fantastic episodes, so many fantastic quotes, but one of my favorites I have yet to ever hear anybody ever mention, then again, maybe I've not come across others. In the first season, during a week when the various species are sharing their religions and their cultural iconography, Commander Sinclair sets up an introduction to the Ambassadors, to give them a chance to maybe understand humans better. Sinclair had arranged a representative to be their for EVERY religion of the planet. That all-inclusive simple respect and courtesy was very meaningful to me.

[@glaffoon1]

Babylon 5 was awesome, and still is. I have all of it on DVD. And I loved all of the characters and the actors.

[@AlexJones-ue1ll]

And not even mentioning the legendary sound track. "Pfaaaah", as Londo would say.

[@KrautGoesWild]

Well, I've never seen Picard and Riker pull a breakfast prank on Dr. Crusher...

[@Wayne_C_Kelly_II]

Babylon 5 +Arcs {Minor & Major} +Character Development +Drama/ Comedy/ Glorious Climaxes/Supremely Intelligent +Movies +Spin-Offs

[@jedi69outcast]

Sad she didn’t mention why Sinclair left the series and the secret JMS didn’t reveal till after the actor that played Sinclair died

[@MShrader211]

Good Lord! Is everyone dead??? I'm feeling really ancient right now reading thru this stuff dang-it. :-( We really gotta do something about this aging problem people, it's killing us! :-| Scientists can make a common round-worm live 300 times longer than it's natural life span, just when are they planning to bring this marvel up to homo-sapiens level I have to ask? Arghhhhhh!

[@johndough8699]

“Everything you didn’t know” Spends at least half of the episode recapping things that all fans already know. I tapped out after that.

[@EternalDamned]

25 years later, and still no B5 miniseries on the telepath war...

[@yorusama5011]

Thank you for this. I usually go back to watch the entire series every decade or so. Love it!

[@StevenErnest]

Yep, she said, "Star Track." Twice. >,< She actually pronounced it correctly before the 2nd mistake... then gets it right again. "Day-lin," for Delenn "...JMS -- as I call him..." How about: As the fans call him... The problem with this overview, is that fans already know all this; seeing the high-points are fun, but her asides/attempts at humor or "coolness," are frequently too childish. There are too many spoilers to show this to someone who hasn't seen the series.

[@astratiger1]

Best Space adventure ever, and this is from a fan of Star Trek. Babylon 5 had it all. Grear character, awesome real looking space battles, and beautiful costumes. I want a Star Fury!

[@skynight113]

Writer of the script was spot on, but the person reading it wasn't all that good.

[@elfthreefiveseven1297]

My favorite quote, " no boom today, boom tomorrow, always a boom tomorrow "

[@MK0272]

Sci-fi doesn't get any better than Babylon 5.

[@toaf6467]

any time someone talks a Babylon 5 is good.

[@zathrasnotzathras2270]

The Moom-bari? WTF? Commander Sheridan? Don't you mean captain!? Stop singing the praises of the show and actually sit down and watch it!

[@marvinhuth4487]

"Dellen".....i total agree with you. person on screen is reading a script. person who wrote the script apparently did not test well with audiences......... i want my ad-money back.

[@misspat7555]

My favorite character was always Londo. He was gray, he stood between the light and the dark, or something like that. It is easy to write a hero (Sinclair, Sheridan, Delenn, even Vir), it is easy to write a villain (President Clark, Morden, Bester, the Shadows in general), it is hard to write a character who always has mixed motives, it is much more realistic but harder to balance and maintain. His character was simultaneously repulsive and tragic, petty and noble. Quite the achievement.

[@chadrasor4838]

SPOILERS AHEAD. For real. If you've never seen B5, and want to watch it fresh, don't watch this. It spoils at least 3 (maybe 4) of the major plot points of the series. I do like that B5 is getting some love here. Wish this review was spoiler free. Watch Babylon 5 everybody. It's great story telling! It is currently streaming on AMAZON.

[@timberry4709]

Sorry, but it's really hard to talk about 23 year old "SPOILERS". It's like talking about "Citizen Kane" without discussing the significance of 'rosebud'.

[@chadrasor4838]

It all comes down to who this video is for. Is it for the long time fan? If so, it's not that good because it covers things most die hard fans already know inside and out. Is it for the new viewer? If so, it's not good because it deprives the new viewer of experiencing all the shocking plot twists and reveals while they watch it themselves. And that is HUGE. B5 isn't a David Lynch meditation is atmosphere and mood. Or a sitcom that hits the reset button at the end of every episode. It's a tightly plotted show about characters. Missing an episode is like skipping a chapter in a book. Ans spoiling a plot point is like telling someone reading book and X character dies in chapter 63. As far an you analogy goes: 1) It does not matter how long ago something came out if you haven't seen it. I'll discuss the significance of rosebud all day to someone who has seen the film. But I'd never just blurt out "Rosebud is {REDACTED}" to someone who's never seen it. 2) It's completely possible to talk about "Citizen Kane" or any other movie, TV show, book, radio drama, etc. without spoiling it. I have listened to movie reviews talk for almost an hr about a film they have watched without spoiling a single thing. And, you know what, those are the reviews/discussions that make me want to go see what they're talking about. Their excitement about the subject matter gets me interested. So, yeah, SPOILER! @@timberry4709

[@jaimerose1313]

Thanks for the warning. I am watching it for the first time since it aired and am finishing up season 5. I honestly don't remember much.

[@ZlothZloth]

@@jaimerose1313 So there is a hole in your mind? Hmm!

[@kirkdarling4120]

During the run of the show, Mr. Straczynski had a chat room in the old GEnie network on Monday nights in which he directly chatted with us fans about the program. He didn't give us spoilers, but he did talk about what was in his own head for the episodes we'd seen. Very, very cool.

[@starbrand3726]

My favorite character? Lyta Alexander. SPOILER ALERT! Loved her when she returned augmented by the Vorlons. She was described as a psychic nuke.

[@jdlech]

Loved her character... till she decided to get romantically involved with G'Kar and left Zack Allen in the lurch. I felt so bad for Zack, losing the game of love to an alien reptile.

[@starbrand3726]

@@jdlech Well, she wasn't really romantically into G'Kar. I think they were more like kindred spirits.

[@LaserGuidedLoogie]

I agree, B5 has consistently been my favorite sci-fi show for years, even with the atrocious CGI during the first season. It wasn't just "space opera," it was philosophy and existentialism wrapped in a sci-fi shell. Also, the structure of the show is what put it over the top, serialization vs episodic.

[@Alexandrashepiro]

B5 is one of the best Sci-Fi shoes EVER!!!!

[@aurorajones8481]

The show needs a lightly edited reboot. Ugh I miss it. I watch the entire run every 4-5 years. Its great even in 2020. I love ST too but B5 has such a story so its quite a bit different. When ever i think of scripting a series i always think of B5 and think lets do the entire story first with a clear beginning middle and end. Script in some story archs character dev and your golden.

[@Plopiccolo]

Babylon 5 was orignally pitch to paramount, they declined and took the idea to create DS9.

[@infojunkieworld]

Maury Povich: You said this video was going to be about Babylon 5: Everything You Didn't Know, That was a lie!

[@Haldurson]

Out of a stellar cast, I have to say that Vir was my favorite character. He tried so hard to be a moral compass for Londo, but Londo wouldn't have any of it. I also was a fan of the late, great Stephen Furst since Animal House. BTW, why did the person reading the script call Delenn, 'Valen'??? That was a silly error, compounded by the fact that she later (properly) called Sinclair Valen. One oddity is that she didn't recognize that "We are all star stuff" was a Carl Sagan quote (Delenn was quoting Carl Sagan)

[@macswanton9622]

-word. Exactly.

[@JerseyDevilBM]

Sadly, I didn't know that about her quote either and I'm a die-hard B5 and sci-fi fan. Never watched or read a lot of Sagan (aside from "Contact"and his efforts on behalf of SETI).

[@robertmcdonnold3038]

The one character no one has mentioned is Kosh's ship. Soft spoken but a force not to mess with.

[@citizenofearth]

For me, Babylon 5 was the best sci-fi TV show ever! Worth every minute of watching. R.I.P. all the actors who passed away.

[@Maldoror2112]

In the very early preproduction designs for the characters, Sinclair was the one who had a beard. Maybe Sheridan's beard was an homage to that. Also, Delenn was originally conceived as being a bluish male Minbari, G'Kar was "Jackarr," Londo Mollari was Londo "Collari" and had short hair, and "Khosh Naranek" was much more physically humanoid but with four-fingered hands sporting claws. Just check out "Early B5" online, and you can see the designs for these and other characters.

[@odieonekaraoke]

Day linn???? Daaaa lennnnn. Who is this chick? Obviously she hasn't seen ONE episode if she can't pronounce Delenn's name right. Anyways, huge Star Trek fan but B5 blew away anything Star Trek ever put out. I miss this show.

[@UltimateTrekkie1]

That’s incredibly obvious. I respectfully disagree, though-B5 didn’t blow Star Trek out of the water.

[@AlLewisJr]

I remember being in college and watching the B5 pilot thinking this was something big happening. Had a friend at the time actually “no one cares about sci fi and fantasy anymore. Many felt that way. I laughed and said “ok sure, just wait and see” too funny.

[@mikesurlygentlemanwalton]

The only thing I don't know about B5 that I don't already know is when is it coming back? Please Mr. Straczynski. B5 is the best Sci-Fi franchise that doest have the word Star in the title.

[@Keihryon]

Unfortunately he does not have full rights to the IP. Warner Bros. control most of the rights to the IP, and they refuse to let it see the light of day. Why? I don't know, but hollywierd is full of petty people.

[@mikesurlygentlemanwalton]

@@Keihryon wow, I just read a few articles on the ownership of the IP and wow is it the most petty stuff I have ever heard. Just makes no sense.

[@vicsrealms]

It is too bad they never got around to finishing Crusade.

[@thomasa7175]

" I am Grey, I stand between the Candle and the Star. We are Grey, We stand between the Darkness and the Light. " - Ambassador & Grey Council Member Delenn. Well Mira, you are Light now and Shine with the Stars in the Sky. Thank you. You will be Missed and Remembered.

[@kabbalhewhorollsbehindther1692]

WTF? MOON-bari? DAY-linn? I think this narrator should maybe watch the show before commenting on it.

[@menghao737]

I just love JMS as a writer. I got hooked on B5 when it came out, and it instantly scratched an itch that I hadn't realized Star Trek wasn't scratching. By the third season it was easily my favorite over Star Trek and Star Wars. If they ever decide to remake or reboot it, they better be even more faithful to JMS original story than Turner was to the original B5, but I do not know how you follow such perfomances as Andreas Katulas as G'Kar and Peter Jurasik as Londo Mollari. You almost shouldn't even try, their characters are almost sacrosanct at this point, as is Claudia Christian's Ivanova character. Can you imagine how heart breaking it would be for some company to remake B5 and get those characters wrong? And a lot of it is due to JMS' writing, he could be over the top at times, but that just made his characters bigger than life, and it also meshed well with the less soap opery parts of the show and made the world and its characters even more believable and fleshed out overall. It has literally been decades and I am still pissed they never turned JMS' comic series Rising Stars into a movie like they were supposed to, or some kind of tv or netflix series, and he also did some great runs on Superman, Spider-Man, and Thor to name a few. The man is prolific and deserves more credit for his contributions to our pop culture.

[@repatch43]

4 Seasons, not 5. The 5th season was a last minute tack-on since they weren't sure it would happen, Straczynski compressed years 4 and 5 of his story into what turned out to be season 4. What ended up as Season 5 was a pale comparison to what came before it.

[@hitchhikerrobert]

Not true. The episode "sleeping in light" was added to the end of season four in case they didn't get to make a fifth season. But it was always planned as a five season run

[@pinkmonkeybird2644]

No one I know who loves the show thinks Season 5 was well done. They had so much they could have covered better - the telepath war (not just Byron), Garabaldi getting Bester out of his head, rebuilding Earth after the devastation of Clark, the fate of Centauri Prime, Vir becoming emperor, the return of the technomages, the fate of G’Kar. Instead, they introduced a horrible new leader of B5 who was inexplicably Sheridan’s ex-wife) while Sheridan was basically president of an office on the station. They also destroyed several characters who didn’t deserve their fate, particularly Lyta and Lennier. Lyta risked everything so many times for Earth, and they threw her away suddenly like trash. And then the writers had to demonize Lennier for secretly loving Delenn. It was so out of character for both, and they were rapidly written out of the show before any sort of redemption. I really hated that bit of plot. Maybe it would have been better to stop at Season 4 and let Season 5 have been Crusade.

[@MandalorV7]

Even then that speech John gave in Season 5's first episode blew me away.

[@jonnunn4196]

Original Plan was 5 seasons. Original Network did indeed announce they'd wouldn't pick up a 5th season resulting in moving dealing with Clark to 4th season; (Shadow War was going to end in season 4 anyway). In addition this is responsible for three of the movies. Yes, TNT then renewing it for the 5th season meant that every episode they had originally planned as a breather episode for season 4 ended up in season 5. There's still some good episodes in season 5 such as the fall of Centauri Prime. Crusade's main problem is it aired completely out of order and consequently that it didn't even get to finish the first planned season.

[@markhendrixson5752]

My favorite episode is 'Day Of The Dead' from S5. Such great writing and it was a thrill to hear from characters in the show who were gone too soon.

[@psychosooner1]

Love this show, just recently watched the entire series again on Amazon.

[@WrestlingWithGaming]

I’m conflicted. In one sense, I’m glad to see Babylon 5 have a new video produced buy a decently sized channel. On the other hand, as others have stated it’s very obvious that the writers, director, and host of this video have never seen Babylon 5. It’s dripping with mispronunciations, fake enthusiasm, and reads like a Wikipedia overview. It’s mostly accurate but there are a few glaring inaccuracies. This channel’s DS9 video has the same issues. It’s a testament to how good B5 is that even though this video wasn’t really that great, the clips from the show that were shown made me excited enough to do a rewatch now that it’s on Amazon Prime.