This Is What a "Second-Person" Video Game Would Look Like

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0:14 - Phantom Dust
1:19 - Refunct
1:28 - Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne
2:17 - Driver: San Francisco
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[@altaraiser1054]

Thanks for the subtitle man, my english hearing is bad.

[@SquirrelTheorist]

That's cool! Thank you!

[@barryallen1035]

@Nick Robinson You know what this is, right? This is kind of like "Inception"

[@ElectroBolt771]

basically 2nd person is MC with replay mod, but you can control the charecter in the video

[@SquirrelTheorist]

@@ElectroBolt771 I never saw the replay mod, thank you very much for pointing that out! awesome

[@derdodel7978]

4th person: your character reads a newspaper about the events of the game

[@mengoicetea3805]

5th person: your character’s cousin tells you his roommate told him about reading the news paper about the events of the game

[@danielmartin6887]

Rockstar has already done that

[@JackOLanter]

4th person would be like Super Smash. "Us" everybody shares the same screen.

[@dani.munoz.a23]

Funnily enough, in this game the character is in a coma and the events of the game are actually what he's hearing on the news subconsiously

[@lazer2414]

lol that doesnt work like that

[@ThatSpaceMann]

So 2nd person is basically: You control Person 1, but your view is from the perspective of Person 2, who is watching Person 1.

[@babylonian]

correct!

[@kingendas1624]

I think Trevor saves the Universe is the perfect example

[@dom1nozs]

So like Moss vr

[@therealepic2196]

It’s basically a third person game or first person I guess where the player you control is you

[@stikasqr9500]

So basically you are spectating someone seeing you while you control the person that the person that you are spectating is seeing you That would be weird.

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

The 2nd perspective in games too is also applied on "No one lives under the lighthouse" when during a chase scene your perspective is the monster's and you have to run away, but the trick being is that the farther you are the harder it is to see where you're going, forcing you to stay close to the monster as to not get lost

[@Lulee1277]

I just commented this, sorry for accidentally stealing🤷‍♂️

[@aplattner317]

This is exactly what I was thinking of

[@TheLogg]

you forgot the end quotation mark.

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

@@TheLogg LOL you're right

[@nickmeyer238]

Think this is also in Psychonauts 1 when you're fleeing the lake monster.

[@nekomancer350]

Very interesting video. Wasn't expecting the "second-person" perspective to translate in such a strange and unique way. Props to whoever came up with the idea for that mission.

[@itstimeforlee]

It doesn't, this is still 3rd person.

[@rasmusasd3868]

except its not, youre uneducated@@itstimeforlee

[@milanek1527]

Maybe, but the thing different here is that you are seeing it from a different NPC. Not just a camera above your head. Like someone mentioned, in a game where a monster chases you, the 2nd person was that you had the perspective of the monster, but you were controlling yourself. You are seeing *You* being chased by this monster, forcing you to stay kinda close so you see where you are going.​@@itstimeforlee

[@_Cfocus]

@@itstimeforlee it does, if you make it an actual online player, you see yourself through him and he sees himself through you. probably wouldnt work as a car chasing game, might be something like a wrestling game or a fighter game

[@_Cfocus]

@@itstimeforlee because "you" is kind of similar to "he" so the concept in the video game seems similar but there is a slight difference

[@jamiechamplain8728]

2nd person is when you’re watching your big brother finish the hard level for you

[@SirButtRichardson]

“Without arousing suspicion” “THaTs mY CaR”

[@LucyferAngel]

WHY CANT I STOP LAUGHING

[@VulpinetideCuteTimes0w0]

I DON"T KNOW YOU!!!

[@nicholaslokos7949]

Guys we have discovered the rare substance on the internet that real people like to call "the funny."

[@hira9541]

Ayy 666

[@adrianyourlordandsaviour]

Why did I laugh

[@NickCombs]

A 2nd person game could also be about indirect control of the main character. Imagine a main character that narrates and makes their own decisions, but you control the environment that affects their choices. That would be very similar to a story told from a “you” perspective. The Driver level is similar because “you” are the chasing driver who isn’t directly controlled.

[@trapOrdoom]

Seems like you could basically make the illusion of 2nd person by storytelling and writing… such an interesting concept.

[@MyPlanetIsPluto]

There's games where you give commands through a headset. as well

[@NickCombs]

In a way, the sims and city builders are 2nd person stories told from the perspective of the characters, but controlled indirectly through gameplay.

[@Daniel03YT]

There arent many games where one controls only a side character

[@pstbukkie]

That is what 3rd person is.

[@Dylanquinn666]

Second person perspective is the moment of existential dread you experience when you're playing animal crossing and you catch a glimpse of your own tired reflection on your switch screen when it fades to black at 5am.

[@burgndii]

In fact, in Happy Home Designer (3ds/2ds), when you put the room camera down and control yourself, you're doing so from 2nd pov. Just realized this

[@megglezeee6090]

It’s crazy how well he can describe a simple video game clip like it’s an ancient work of art.

[@specificboi362]

its not that simple

[@baigle762]

He makes it sound like its a real car crash

[@DankWilliams_Jr.]

I’ve only seen the game on neilogical’s channel and thought cool game But then I watched this and was taken to a deeper level

[@Polyglot_English]

🤙 Determinism is Freedom 🤙 Детерминизм это Свобода 🤙

[@dwugtwee]

Welp, this is what the whole channel is about

[@nessfinesse3195]

So second person is whenever I'm with a friend and try to play while looking at the other side of the split screen.

[@shrilleth]

fucking this. when I'm really far with a sniper and I'm trying to see how I should adjust my shot so I see where they're landing on his screen

[@floppymoonfish4882]

@@shrilleth Absoloutely Fantastic!

[@gideone9802]

There we go! I do this all the time.

[@bayurukmanajati1224]

You can also playing Call of Duty, but only killcam allowed. So no first person for you.

[@Okamiyourgod]

NessFinesse yes

[@killingsali]

Baldurs gate 3 has a lot of 2nd person interactions due to the Game master element, where your character, ie. you in the game, are being told what your experience is, like "As you are walking into the room, you feel a strange, but yet familiar scent. It takes you back to when you were a kid, and you immediate recognize the smell".

[@bosobot]

it's just a narration though, a stamp for any RPG. it doesn't involve an actual second perspective gameplay

[@greenlungo3996]

I like how this video discussed the topic and used literary narrative as the premise. But by that definition, everything we've been calling 3rd person all along is actually 2nd person. The example with the car chase is the rare instance of true 3rd person. In most games, the player watches the character directly and the controller input narrates to your character thing like "You go forward. You turn left. Now you strike". In Driver: San Francisco's chase scene, the inputs narrate "He turns, then he accelerates" while the second person is YOU driving to pursue HIM. The player, the viewer and the character make 3 people.

[@bridebaker9317]

Thank you for saying it

[@Morty_Mcfly2]

Yes

[@RafaelBelvederese]

@@bridebaker9317 thank you for thanking him.

[@haydenelliott6799]

No lol, you don't fully understand them. 1st person is through the eyes of the main character, 2nd person is from the eyes of another person, 3rd person is watching it happen not from any one characters perspective

[@babblebabble]

I’ve never seen a game bug that was described this much cinematically

[@truxtonton]

babblebabble I know right?

[@keysersoze9651]

Its like cinefix describing best movie moments of all time

[@akaXAX]

@@truxtonton lmao he acts like this was life changing experience that forever rocked him to his core

[@truxtonton]

Xax lmao yeah,love it though

[@solantir3243]

@@akaXAX true lulw

[@redex1098]

Don’t you hate it when you meet yourself in second person and then accidentally destroy reality?

[@veekay_t]

Yeah it's so annoying

[@ZoeBateman]

Truly an "oops" moment

[@CLK944]

Ugh happens all the time

[@CoTyyy]

Don't you just hate it when you no clip out of reality and end up in * T H E B A C K R O O M S*

[@sirisaac6225]

Mondays am I right?

[@math9172]

There is a boss battle in TloZ : Phantom Hourglass that uses the double screen of the DS to show you the point of view of the boss. Since the boss is invisible, you have to mostly rely on this to avoid its attacks and hit it. It was probably one of the more memorable moments of this game for me. Especially since this mechanic comes back (but less intensely) for the final boss.

[@auriyewolf4576]

That boss fucked me up as a kid, but i remember it to this day

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

I wouldn't say less intensely as it was longer than the big bug granted the final boss had more health than the bug but still lol Actually i would have loved if you could have had the phantoms on the top screen like their POV hunting Link as link is going through. To not be too broken lets say when he gets all 3 pure metals so the final trip through that dungeon

[@lapis591]

The player's point-of-view (Link) is still third-person. The glimpse into the boss from first-person perspective doesn't change that.

[@math9172]

@@lapis591 Not really, because during the fight you almost exclusively use the top screen with the bosses' view. You indeed still have the 3rd person view on the touch screen to still control Link (with touch movements), but in order to dodge the bosses attacks and to shoot him in the eyes, you *have* to use the "2nd person" for most of the boss.

[@mikegoossens5511]

Both Jak 2 and Ratchet and Clank 3 have a 2nd person level and 2nd person Boss fight (partly) respectively

[@RFC3514]

"First person" and "third person" are simply about your _point of view_ (as a player). Being in a car "chasing yourself" is really just a mix of first and third person, because you're still effectively controlling everything. A "2nd person game" would simply be a game where you always see things from the point of view of an _independent_ (i.e., AI-driven, or script-driven) NPC that your character might be _interacting_ with (basically, it looks like a first-person POV, but instead of the camera being the player character's eyes, it's some NPC's eyes, aimed at the PC, while you're controlling _only_ the PC - though I guess that part goes without saying, because whichever character you're controlling is effectively the "player character" at that point, even if it wasn't at a different stage of the game).

[@henrikaugustsson4041]

Yeah. Second person would be like seeing yourself in a police body cam, roughly. You'd be seeing yourself from the perspective of the person you're interacting with. If it were a combat game, you'd see yourself from the eyes of the enemies.

[@theblinkingbrownie4654]

Yeah was gonna say, while the car scene is cool and all, that's definitely 3rd person if you count yourself as the running car and 1st person as the tailing car. It's both mixed, not 2nd person.

[@domr9887]

I've never heard anyone make a glitch sound so dramatic

[@sonchew]

he seems like to solve a damn mystery

[@wood_barrel]

No shit.

[@Razielbergamini]

Seriously. It made me stop watching.

[@coreyc9432]

@@Razielbergamini lmao, made me keep watching

[@PaxxTan]

@@coreyc9432 same. I was all in

[@samdavies2422]

*You have been assigned to kill you* Me: Finally, a worthy opponent

[@ToaHurlak52]

"Why am I not satisfied?"

[@enchanted4468]

Our battle will be legendary

[@badr724]

That's me in rdr2

[@ishotudropdead]

Ohhh am I approaching me?

[@lolxd3714]

@@enchanted4468 *a WORTHY OPPONENT*

[@onyx9935]

I remember seeing a review of a horror game, called something like “under the lighthouse” and I remember how the chase sequences are surprising because it starts by abruptly putting you into the POV of the monster chasing you while you try to run away

[@demontongue9893]

Came back to this video after 4 years and it's still brilliant

[@omnisel]

"What's a second person video game?" > just looking for an excuse to talk about Driver San Francisco again

[@forti8209]

totally accurate battle sim

[@colei8752]

@@KINGJERMARCUS Ok, I won't.

[@VX3800]

KING JERMARCUS we weren’t going to anyway, dropkick

[@sneerfulcone9989]

@@KINGJERMARCUS Ok

[@keijijohnson9754]

That’s what it looked like at the 13:25 mark. Honestly should’ve just ended it there.

[@vitowidjojo7038]

Imagine a horror game uses this concept. You control yourself in the monster's perspective as you are chased by it.

[@Julsiy]

Tomb raider legend does this... for a bit lol

[@tiramiisu0]

you genius

[@yekna459]

But how would that work? The monster can only move when you do, right!

[@scat3926]

@@yekna459 nope you would run away from an A.I. controlled monster

[@awesumtoast97]

@@drdnd5078 siren was so underrated. And siren blood curse was fucking amazing. I remember doing the haunted house on Playstation home was my favorite cause it was so hard and scary

this is one of my favourite videos, EVER. I have been looking for this video. I laways think of it. Something makes me love it.

[@atsusoshiki6331]

I remember watching this same video a while ago, and while rewatching this game, that san francisco mission, reminds me of a game that I used to play alot while I was longer that adopted the same perspective.. I forgot the name, but I think there are many games nowadays that implement this mechanic where you move from a 2nd person perspective. Idk if this san francisco game pioneered it, but either way its still very cool. And you pay attention to some newer and even some other older games you will see this mechanic actually portrayed alot more than you realize.

[@justasillyguyonyt]

So basically looking over at someone else’s screen while playing a split screen game and seeing yourself walk around

[@ccvcharger]

pretty much

[@lestat305]

Yuh

[@DeltaKT]

Haha I always do this on Gran Turismo when I overtake someone on splitscreen

[@AlwaysResoak]

I swear GTA San Andrea's did similar things with perspective like this

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

@@AlwaysResoak there's an entire game about it called I think screencheat or screenpeek or something

[@grimrow]

first person: Me third person: He second person: *DRIVER SAN FRANCISCO*

[@riddlemethisriddlemethat2947]

I went second person one time

[@reducedatom16yearsago55]

Yes that game is so good

[@jkterjters]

@@riddlemethisriddlemethat2947 I go second person whenever I slip on ice in winter.

[@Makochips]

if there is a narrator in a game, that's second person I think and speaking of 2nd person games, I think undertale and deltarune are 2nd person games "you are filled with determination"

[@TheRezro]

@@Makochips No, second person is the other person. 1'st Person. You see through eyes of the character. 2'd Person. Character is seen through someone else eyes. 3'd Person. Is when we see action from detached "flying bird" point of view.

[@Knightess]

You may think about that mission in Driver SF a lot, but I think about your video essay on it a lot too. Nice work.

[@clooliss6400]

I have wondered this and am glad you showed an example, thank you.

[@burnmydxead]

Local man creates black hole: "He just wanted to talk about Driver San Francisco again" , local witness says

[@burnmydxead]

@@KINGJERMARCUS That's exactly why your parents don't love you.

[@maruftim]

@@burnmydxead fact

[@Juhsuwah]

@@burnmydxead LMAO

[@TheGr0nch]

DSF is hella good tho

[@tempbees4713]

KING JERMARCUS we won't

[@FF-tk2zs]

2nd person: playing as your character through the eyes of the enemy

[@thurlmiah]

FF5615 perfect... all he had to say

[@KyranSparda]

Basically, Siren the game?

[@pforzheim4837]

Thank you for saving me 15 minutes

[@Qualificationz]

Ratchet and Clank 3 Tyrranoid boss

[@Mecal21]

That's what I was thinking before watching the video!

[@toamastar]

Such a fascinating video and concept! I like to think the Devs knew what they were doing when they made the part where you can turn around and have a unique experience, kind of like an Easter Egg. I would compare it to the movie version of Ready Player One with the race scene but that movie came out literally years after this game so i dont think there is a comparison and unrelated the book is better. Anyway, great video, new here! might stick around :)

[@penguincute3564]

First person: You are *_YOU_* (in game) Second person: You are *_I_* (irl) Third person: You are *_HIM_* (in game)

[@Beans-wr3hu]

This is the beyond at bed bath and beyond

[@JoshQwerty]

Beyond the golden arches

[@Efwin197]

Hi

[@XlissueslXgaming]

We need to go to the beyond and while we are there, let's grab a remote control

[@XlissueslXgaming]

@Clint Sandlin that's right, you can only get it from Christopher Walken though

[@thecommunist2646]

Beyond Walmart And Beyond

[@starfox5165]

The way he described the car flying through the air was so emotionally investing I couldn’t stop listening

[@jdwildman24x74]

For real tho

[@luzmanhasif6071]

Time?

[@samanthamichniewicz870]

Rewound that part over and over again

[@melancholyroseate9811]

Yes!!!

[@triggadidon]

I played it back twice

2nd person must be like Minecraft when the vision is in the front of your character

[@DMZZ_DZDM]

This is going on the "best videos ever" playlist

[@sienacastricum8998]

“second person writing is pretty rare” wattpad authors: hold my beer

[@sunooIuvr]

this has the same energy as when you're playing mariokart with someone and they're behind you and you watch yourself on their half of the screen

[@GYM829]

Lol I use to love doing that as a kid. When me and my brother would play HALO Co-op I would always look at his screen and control myself from that perspective whenever possible

[@JohnMarston0123]

That’s possible in any split screen game

[@mintymango3717]

😂😂😂

[@gvtterslag]

My little sister always says something like "haha I'm cheating cuz I can see your screen" whenever we play split screen together. It's really funny and cute.

[@jalentayshaun]

Wow I used to do this all the time with COD too

[@xeplag]

2nd person perspective is fairly common in text-based adventures, but its fascinating to see a take on how it would be expressed visually :0 and... yes, I do very much want to try this game.

[@THATBLUEBLAZER]

the mission in driver san francisco reminds me of the chase sequences in the horror game “no one lives under the lighthouse. you have to run away from the monster, but the monster is where the camera is. you need to stay near the monster so you can see, but not close enough to die. i just ran to the house to deload it.

[@SinkingDpr]

I can imagine a whole “second person” game based on this concept of playing as a person from the view of another person, you could be a person being stalked, trying to kill your stalker, all from the view of your stalker

[@beleques]

Xuan Boone Well not really. For it to be a third person perspective the “third person” needs to be completely detached from anything that is going on in the game. The third person does not exist in the game’s universe, but watches everything from outside. With a second person stalking game, the camera follows the perspective of an actual person that exists around the protagonist without being the protagonist itself.

[@alberttrita5858]

I just remembered screencheat exists!

[@spoockybro]

Isnt there a game where everyone is invisible, however you can see others screens, and every place is difrent.

[@mehmeh3894]

@@beleques Like the cameras in watchdogs, and you can move your guy while swapping perspective between mounted cameras

[@imafew3580]

Meh Meh cameras make it 3rd person.

[@toxicastigator]

The “you’re chasing yourself” perspective is incredibly unique and one that strangely terrifies me.

[@samotr7713]

ok

[@toxicastigator]

@@samotr7713 Are you still upset that no one joined your stream # #?

[@samotr7713]

@@toxicastigator yes 😔

[@LeonPessanha]

Nailed it

[@toxicastigator]

@sacr3d g6om9try you don’t believe in individuality? Like as in: everyone around me is similar to me in many ways but only I am myself?

[@Lucifronz]

As someone else mentioned when someone brought up horror games, this concept exists in the Forbidden Siren series. A blind character in the first game uses you as their navigator, but it's mainly just by having you turn to look at them so they can gauge where they are from your perspective. The *second* game, however, allows you to play as a blind character named "Shu" who sees through his seeing-eye dog. The whole game revolves around this sight mechanic overall, but with Shu it's how *you* navigate. You see entirely from the dog's perspective as it follows quietly behind Shu and it's very interesting. This might be hard to make work for a whole game, but I think it could. There are lots of scenarios where it could be feasible. Like a cameraman following a reporter around, or a drone buzzing around a person's head or scooting along the ground like a roomba or something and trying to keep up. The potential is there. Just takes someone brave enough to try it.

[@mrwow1097]

A 2nd game is like when you play kinda as a sidekick watching the main guy do all the work.

[@nagito8734]

"Now I'm not the first person to wonder about this" Does that make you the *second person?*

[@blazn0]

Shall I leave you out?

[@kordru]

@Ultimo Destruct-O for you - 1 like, 1 reply in 7 hours

[@peterc2448]

Budum tsh

[@BologneyT]

SOMEONE GETS IT

[@extremealier4143]

@C J *A L L P E R S O N*

[@edwnx0]

second person: watching a let's play

[@TykoBrian7]

Duh

[@lilcircumcision91]

Holy fuck

[@glados.1152]

Edwin Contreras but then a person has to play it so it becomes 1st or 3rd view which could be classified as 2nd person but then since it’s a let’s play it becomes 1st or 3rd.

[@robertchappell8086]

Second person- watching your own let's play

[@98SE]

@@masonsaccount Yes! That would be really creepily weird, I'm gonna have nightmares now of me glitching through my bedroom ceiling to the 32 bit integer limit and my brain will crash... @(

[@zapman6528]

Before I finish the video, im going to say 2nd person would be point and click style games like Sierra or early lucasarts adventure games, or even the sims and RTS. The idea is you are essentially talking to the characters telling them what to do. I remember the first time I encountered 2nd person was in the Mayday Parker Spider-Girl comics. The Narrator was talking to spider girl. At first I thought it was an inner monologue but it would refer to her in situations where she wasnt present nor had knowledge of its events. Its definitely strange but curiously entertaining. I’ll edit this when I finish the vid.

[@homevalueglass3809]

Ha ha, I love the coose your own adventure-style narration video

[@Alicia-cc3gy]

i feel like a truly 2nd person game would involve you witnessing your actions through other people’s eyes and then also seeing how your actions effect them

[@willialiem6991]

look for a game called ai dungeon. At first glance it might seem a bit confusing, however if you pay attention to how this game is "narrated" to the player, you will understand the concept closer from a 2 person perspective.

[@grimreaper894]

I wonder if the older resident evil games would make sense for 2nd person

[@muttonvindaloobeast8160]

@@grimreaper894 I agree, good point 👉

[@backwardmist2303]

The walking dead games

[@adahnliegl740]

Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy does something alike to that: You play two characters: The first an alleged criminal escaping an investigator by clearing clues and evidence he might leave, the second one... the investigator picking up on what you left or how you botched cleaning up.

[@kettlepetal3138]

Some dev out there needs to make an entire game about stalker- you play the character being stalked but the view is from the perspective of the stalker the entire time

[@AzizTheGazele552]

early resident evil?

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

Imagine you dont actually know this until the game ends. Maybe you can see your camera stalker from specific angles in mirrors and windows but you dont know who it is until you reach the end and its revealed that you’ve been looking through the eyes of the horror you’ve been trying to escape

[@adventuretails3479]

​@@eldritchcupcakes3195dude. Yes!

[@llamaturtle6979]

@@eldritchcupcakes3195I LOVE THIS IDEA SO MUCH

[@liselotteline8596]

Braid has a concept like that.

[@uzoge]

Here's another 2nd person gamemode for you: in recent soccer games (FIFA and PES) there's a "become a legend" mode where you only control one player instead of the whole team. In this mode, if you set the camera setting to the ball, you actually see yourself from the perspective of the ball. The camera is always facing towards you it's just that the point of view is moving with the ball.

[@babylonian]

hahahah what?! that sounds so weird, i def need to see it in action

[@GraveyardOfDoubt]

You are a good narrator. And this was a really interesting theme and story. Thank you.

[@Epilepson]

Basically, 2nd person: third person but a character is a camera

[@mfmr200]

What

[@Supaserrin]

Now that you mention it, in Super Mario 64, Lakitu is controlling the camera. So technically, it was a second person game all along.

[@shanbur6721]

Supaserrin oh shit

[@swiftripper7557]

*Character is a camera

[@Supaserrin]

@@swiftripper7557 I think if you say that the camera is a character instead, the concept is better understood. You play the game, and a camera is watching you, but if that camera is actually someone you can interact with, THEN it's second person instead of third.

[@daddydanny6566]

This guy made a simple question with a complex answer into an even more complex answer that somehow got everyone in they feels

[@zyuukii]

Like idk why but after this video I was like “pain😔”

[@gonelucid6270]

He made something complex that isn't complex. Same with your sentence.

[@Swole_Gecko]

At around the 10 minute mark i couldn't remember the reason I clicked this video and had to reread the title 🤣

[@puma7108]

I had nightmares because dog this video

[@kamikazex17_7]

Lol

[@nathannortonmusic3554]

The game R.A.D also does this. You control a giant robot but are playing from the perspective of a person on the street.

[@qbanz00]

Never expected to see this games years later turned into a mind f*** presentation 😂

[@adarkwind4712]

“And drove directly at myself” welcome to the fourth level of inception.

[@TheEarlsRenegade]

You mean the 2nd perception of inception

[@EllaGP22]

Who knew “second person” was an out of body experience.

[@KazBrownRP]

you did.

[@serjdown8760]

Wassup banditø

[@Bananaman431]

Speed _ |-/

[@saltysnowboi]

Kenny Warren you, you sly bastard

[@anthonyramirez6325]

So third-preson

[@TheDoubleg94]

I like how this video started out about a theoretical game mode and ended with being a deep dive into driver San Francisco.

[@bodaciouspizza]

First checkpoint starts timer likely to give players a moment to realize whats goin on

[@walrusrider8993]

Just saying this might be a really need way to make a horror game. Like the person is being stalked or something

[@JustKrin]

Like, you see yourself but at the same time you have to find a way of hiding from the character whose perspective you are watching. Where can I play something like this???

[@hexyko4850]

@@JustKrin That sounds like it would make the game easier

[@cabrinius]

@@hexyko4850 No it probably wouldn't.

[@abysswalker2115]

There is a game that goes very close this idea, siren blood curse. In it you have an ability that lets you “sight jack”, aka you can see the enemies perspective. Yet you still control your character with third person camera

[@echo8481]

And the stalker is us, cool!

[@spanx92]

This concept in horror games would be insane

[@cooperperkins1847]

I don't remember what it's called, but there is a horror game in which you have the ability to see out of the monster's eyes.

[@gpants1481]

@@cooperperkins1847 not sure about that game but I Live Dead by Daylight where you can play either as one of four survivors with their pov as third person or play as a killer with pov of first person.

[@YavuzTurgut]

@@cooperperkins1847 the game name was 'eyes' i guess

[@antonchigurr2722]

@@YavuzTurgut the name of the game is Forbidden Siren, its director, keichiro toyama, was the creator of the first silent hill. Its a masterpiece.

[@YavuzTurgut]

@@antonchigurr2722 I will check out then, thanks! :)

[@troublesomebirdsong]

I feel like this is probably still an abnormal form of 3rd person, since you're not actually controlling Ordell's car at the time, his POV has just become an AI that's maneuvering the camera angle. The closest I can think of for 2nd person is some parts in 'Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice', where your character Senua directly looks at and addresses you, the player, as if you were another character, but that doesn't really count either, because it's during cutscenes, not gameplay.

[@CrizzyEyes]

There is 2nd person narration, that's different from gameplay. I think this is the closest approximation to 2nd person gameplay. You aren't viewing the game from the perspective of the protagonist, but you still need that protagonist to succeed. Either that or something like MGS1's moment with Psycho Mantis and getting the frequency to call Meryl. The player must take action outside of the game to succeed, not any of the characters. So basically a 2nd person game might be an ARG.

[@lorengladwill4150]

There is actually a very successful video game franchise from the late 80's to mid 90's which uses a 2nd-person narrative style to tell the story. It is called Quest for Glory and was one of Sierra's most successful adventure game franchises.

[@pineapplepirate1017]

Second person is like when you look at a camera monitor to see yourself in a gas station

[@MrTrombonebandgeek]

Super mario 64 is second person technically

[@nhutnguyen4655]

Minh Trần Việt Nam :))))

[@azaeru8914]

@@MrTrombonebandgeek No.

[@fabianblom2458]

@@azaeru8914 Well yeah because it's all from the perspective of Lakittu.

[@azaeru8914]

@@fabianblom2458 No.

[@danielk.746]

Bro, u turned this game into a creepypasta.

[@Smileythefirst]

Lmao

[@kalynallen4431]

you are kinda right

[@FinalFantasyRainbowDash]

@Marcin Zalewski another example is when in a certain level in Spider Man Shattered Dimensions when the camera switch’s to the prospective of a sniper trying to snipe Spider Man even though Spider Man is the one you’re actually controlling.

[@FinalFantasyRainbowDash]

The Final level of the Spongbob Squarepants Movie video game is another example when you’re trying to get King Neptune who is being mind controlled by Plankton to fire his sniper laser thing at frozen Mr Krabs.

[@lwr2758]

Ikr I watched this at night and it gave me the chills

[@kylethewolf]

2nd person game is a game when you don't control a character, but give them commands, for example you are stuck in a security office, with full access to doors, security cameras and such, the rest of the facility is full of monsters or zombies, and you spot a survivor that you need to lead to safety through opening/closing doors, giving commands through speakers, etc.

[@MarqueeShift]

2nd person is me playing my character through player 2 screen in split screen, it nice seeing the chaos i do from someone else's pov

[@tobiaslenger]

I remember how in "spider man shattered dimensions" there was a mission in which you had to dodge bullets, and the camera was from the eye of a sniper, but you still controlled the spiderman

[@brianstiles1701]

That game is so underrated

[@TripleEightss]

shattered dimensions brought me so much joy

[@Dom-qz9zf]

Ah yes I remember that

[@SutekhChroma]

Spider Man 64 had a level where you control Spidey while the POV was a sniper chasing him, too

[@roaringthunder115]

Oh yeah

[@spacecasejay]

Local man does literally whatever it takes to talk about Driver

[@MigiliARMN]

well its a good game

[@gugfitufi4862]

And Japan

[@geekjokes8458]

@@gugfitufi4862 im surprised that in the clip at the end he wasnt in japan

[@feybart]

@@geekjokes8458 How do you know?

[@kraft.singles]

@Suffer No Fools he just likes long hair bro

[@MarionetteKazuko]

original battletoads on nes did this with the fight that takes place from the perspective of the boss in the mech suit, u control ur character(s) that it can see dodging rocks and what not.

[@kelbinhow]

I know this video is old now, but I just found out that GTA San Andreas did exactly the same thing Driver San Francisco did, except YEARS ago, and used it as a simple forgetful mechanic (which is why nobody ever talks about it or straight didn't even know, like myself). Whenever you're on a police chase on the roads, if you activate the cinematic camera, sometimes the game will put the camera behind one of the cop's cars and it will make it seem like you're controlling the police, but in reality, just like in Driver SF, you're controlling CJ the entire time, only now, you're looking at YOU from a second person perspective! This have been such a huge mind blow for me that I HAD to come back to this video just to post this.

[@koromoro6682]

I played multiplayer Minecraft with a friend of mine but only looked through their screen. I think that’s close enough

[@rocky-zx6kq]

Imagine if dream and george did tha

[@lordisaac]

@@rocky-zx6kq that'd be so cool.

[@arfyness]

@@rocky-zx6kq It would take them 10 hours to achieve iron.

[@electricgaming9914]

Are you Logan this happen to us when I was young and I miss you

[@Banana-Boi]

@@arfyness It would.

[@minty5922]

When you were talking about the mission it sounded like you were explaining a creepypasta

[@cjforbison7686]

Ikr.. and I'm just from listening to those

[@zebruciewillis2434]

Seriously.... Straight up sounds like a fuckin creepypasta

[@Thatbluescrub]

I know right especially when he said "You have been assigned to kill you"

[@WitchDetective]

Tbh I was a little scared

[@bxnkaii]

Fuck it's kinda scary

[@leeaparker]

i’ve watched this video multiple times, and every time i feel incredible fear seeing the vehicle turn around and start driving at our perspective

[@Impreza9]

Yeah it’s kind of weird. Like who are you? You or them?

[@alx_carvalho]

This section of the game reminds me of a short storie called The Other by Jorge Luis Borges, a argentine writer. The sense of fascination from metting himself is similar to what you described so well.

[@TheSchnieder6]

1st person: Through the character's eyes 2nd person: Seeing your character through another character's eyes 3rd person: Seeing your character through your eyes

[@ImAfemaleNoob2]

4th person: Seeing another character through your eyes, while looking at your character.

[@masterdoge1921]

Woah confusion reborn

[@liu3chan]

@@ImAfemaleNoob2 so ummm a mirror?

[@youwhenyouyouwhenuhhhhyea5794]

26th person: we don’t fucking know anymore

[@Wm7forthewin]

0th person: seeing through your own eyes

[@elijah3409]

Imagine GTA V but you're the civilian and you have to hide from a maniac who goes around the city

[@maxhaibara8828]

That will be a first person game where the civilian is the main character. So, it's not second person.

[@darrenjimenezreyes2798]

Ok, you watch everything through the eyes of a civillian but you still control the maniac

[@DanielRiossuper1rios]

sodas so basically real life?

[@darrenjimenezreyes2798]

@@DanielRiossuper1rios yeah but we are controlling the maniac

[@DanielRiossuper1rios]

@@darrenjimenezreyes2798 but in life we can become the maniac if we chose to as well....? haha i'm just saying life is already crazy and to go around having a game where you have that happen would be real life like paranoia.

[@cosmibig1656]

I've seen this in a horror game as well, where you take care of a light tower, in first person tho, after some type you start getting chased by a monster, but right after he starts chasing you the camera switches to his eyes, the thing is yours not controlling the monster, you are stilll controlling yourself while seeing the monster's view of following you

[@mooqer]

the part where he said ''and if you get close this happens'' a ad popped

[@Nullicity]

Basically 2nd person is when you're viewing your own character from another characters persepctive.

[@wewewe9373]

A sencond person shooter would be like this: you are the person being shot

[@Nullicity]

@@wewewe9373 You think you're shooting someone in a game but in reality you're killing yourself.

[@supercalifragilisticexpial2270]

@@Nullicity so you can have $e.x with yourself, nice.

[@stickmindevz]

@@Nullicity Suicide is fun

[@Nullicity]

@@supercalifragilisticexpial2270 wait no

[@gugfitufi4862]

There are two things in Nick's life: - Japan - Driver San Francisco

[@ryandeleva5497]

You forgot Hatsune Miku pizza app

[@egarjanis]

Maybe we need Driver Japan...

[@tdelfino2509]

There's also hyper-realistic features on cartoony characters (Mario's hair, Pokemon: Detective Pikachu)

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

_Friggin' Car-Weeb..._

[@tatehammontree2636]

-not checking what time it is

[@cobrax236]

FUUUU THAT AD PLACEMENT WAS MEEAN! 😂

[@jamie74gemini87]

Microprose Grand Prix had this in 1992 where you could view 'you' and control 'you' from the chasing car.

[@tuerry]

Holy shit why does driver San Francisco seem like the most genius game ever wtf

[@peanutbumber5009]

Ikr wtf?????

[@skorpii13]

It’s not just genius, it’s also insanely fun.

[@WIImotionmasher]

Because it is

[@pancake7117]

You find yourself in a room

[@kurrito8916]

Because when things are picked a part and appreciated on the level Nick is doing it makes everyone have a high level of love for it even if they've never played it

[@jfm14]

We non-gamers are very familiar with "second person" games... we've watched our siblings, relatives, friends, and SOs carry out many a mission while sitting next to them on the couch!

[@Faithwashere4563]

Dude my brother would play racing games and we would pretend i was in the backseat lol

[@adrianna._1246]

Ive been both people lol

[@zebracakez2168]

@@Faithwashere4563 that’s so sweet for no reason 🥺🤣

[@BlingIsSpring]

anyone who says “SO” needs to get on testosterone replacement therapy lmao

[@MaticJ29]

Siblings? Relatives?

[@dylanhenry3277]

We need a VR game thats about police chases where the perspective works from the abgle of the cop chasing you, who has a GPS pulled up in view for the map

[@ScoutTF2Gaming]

minecraft told me 2nd person is when the camera watches the person's face

[@akiraie187]

The real second person was the friends we made along the way.

[@slimeforeal7894]

I love Emilia Rem is best girl fam sry🤷‍♂️

[@misterdj6671]

uibut tp difftz

[@evilcardiac953]

Like bomb defuser simulator?

[@dankziq5435]

*faxx*

[@squeaky5674]

That’s... not deep at all

[@vamppanic]

imagine the pure terror of playing a horror game in 2nd person like this

[@devanduraipragash6106]

I would die

[@Seankamrath]

2nd person shooter game

[@gerardonavarro3400]

Resident evil

[@ShinXephon]

"No one lives under the lighthouse" has segments like that

[@TheDJ904]

The part in Obscure The Aftermath (2nd game of that franchise) where you have mei guide her sister (You're controlling said sister) in a basement as Mei watches from the security cams ( so it's kinda like The fixed angles of resident evil games on the Playstation 1 and Gamecube. I think that's a good 2nd player segment of a game from the Playstation 2 Era haha

[@lm9029]

Another instances of 2'nd person in games is Metal Gear Solid 1 if you hold the camera button just before and during the Psycho Mantis fight. Also in Rayman on the world map you view the level select from the perspective of the antagonist as he tracks the hero's progress through binoculars.

[@6lenWasHere]

This is the same as playing split screen racing games with friends and controlling your car through your friends screen to stay in the lead 😂

[@textmachine09]

"It's you. You've assigned to kill you."| My mind was blown away.

[@Loveheart909]

Same, i went *"OOOOOHHHH.!"*

[@Trialer]

It’s kinda like suicide

[@eseanesean7514]

Yep

[@bryansuarez1931]

The way he says it just makes it so much more dramatic

[@unknownlimitz_5528]

X-files theme plays

[@ThatRipOff]

Long story short: Second-Person is just Third-Person, but instead of a non-diegetic god camera, it's framed from the perspective of a diegetic onlooker. (Oh and also most tabletop RPGs.)

[@Kubusarm]

Tabletops are good example, but I feel that they are closer to those written pieces from 2nd person perspective. It's easier to just deliver this feeling using words than to capture it with visuals.

[@briantimkennedy357]

Would Divinity: Original Sin 2 count as Second Person?

[@gabedaloisio2437]

Almost all of my campaign notes are written in second person. "you come across an abandoned X" "You find evidence of Y" "You may present evidence to Z or follow the clues yourself"

[@zeeteepippi275]

Hot Take: Tutorials are just second-person segments. Also, every educational and text-adventure game.

[@roguecard9394]

No that would be the same as third person

[@azazeldeath]

In highschool for one of my English classes my pretty horrible teacher wanted me to write a "short story" in 2nd person, min page req was 200 pages. But it did give me a sense of how it would work, then years later I played driver san francisco and it clicked immediately. I also found out you could just avoid the first checkpoint and drove around for ages it is surreal but also found it calming. Admittedly id just had a car accident, fractured my spine so on high end painkillers so that likely helped lol

[@lankey6969]

I love stuff like this. You are amazing.

[@lostinacatsmouth8389]

I felt real fear when he turned the car around on himself.

[@Abdullah.124]

Time stamp?

[@lostinacatsmouth8389]

@@Abdullah.124 8:53 :D

[@derek7284]

No you didnt

[@Dexuz]

@@derek7284 Yes he did. (We used all persons)

[@wibblwobbl]

same

[@shockthetoast]

"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to take over the body of the villain, but then to control the hero from the perspective of the villain, and also possibly crash into yourself and break the universe." - Harvey Dent

[@babylonian]

i remember when he said that in the film

[@shockthetoast]

@@babylonian I was afraid I was the only one. So many people misquote him.

[@crazyroundman7049]

Yeah, it was a great way of foreshadowing Harvey Dents inevitable fate in which he possessed batman, batman possessed him and they both trip over each other causing universal destruction... Truly classic.

[@NocturnalPyro]

I remember randomly deciding to get Driver San Francisco back in the day, wanting a racing game similar to Need for Speed Underground 2, from my ps2 days (still one of the best racing games ever btw, really capturing the essence of a sandbox street racing game). However despite originally being disappointed that it wasn't similar to it, I did end up playing the game from start to finish in pretty much one sitting.