Worst. Reunion. Ever. - The Bachelor Breakdown Matt's Season Week 9 + Women Tell All RECAP

The Bachelor Season 25 is at Week 9 and it's time for the Women Tell All! Where the cast of Matt James' season will be back to rehash old rivalries and apologies for past mistakes. So who's at Matt's Women Tell All? What's the update on Brittany Galvin? Who might be the next Bachelorette... Katie, Abigail... Serena? Was Heather actually at the Tell All? Check it out in this latest recap and breakdown for The Bachelor Season 25 Episode 9!
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[@BachelorFantake]

If you're having a tough day... a rough month or an exhausting year so far. Take a moment... and treat yo self.

[@kylaj1085]

This came right on time....college stress is no joke😭

[@ms.cellaneous4380]

Exhausted Toby is all of us.

[@cerisebiscuit51]

It really hasn’t been our day, our week, our month or even our year.

[@BachelorFantake]

@@cerisebiscuit51 *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap*

[@katy4523]

Self care, self care, self care

[@girlfieri3156]

so these “women” are not mad at Anna for spreading a false rumor to better her relationship with Matt but theyre mad at Katie for trying to put a stop to it? i’m confused.

[@kcc-karenschroniccorner9432]

IKR! Insane.

[@angelrosee73]

@@alainamcgill2492 I’m literally annoyed by Victoria- I’m mean LITERALLY annoyed 😂

[@JasminWilliams94]

Thank you!!! This angers me SO MUCH!!! Katie did the right thing and didn’t sit in silent complicity while the bullying and defamation went down. I can see why many would be upset with Sarah’s actions but some of the girls were taking it tooooo far especially Victoria. 🙄

[@veronicafoley7492]

There has been no growth among the bullies; they just lame apologized because they got caught... As my friend’s Momma used to say “can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube once ya spilled it,” and there was toothpaste smeared everywhere by these so-called women...nah toddlers😱😱😱

[@CarolinaMouse]

@@alainamcgill2492 It makes no sense at all....superficial (and fake as heck) mean girl idiocy at its worst and finest.

[@maddycaldwell8249]

the way the girls treated katie was soooo annoying. like did they not learn anything from watching the show?

[@DottieMinerva]

Not a thing. The episode was frustrating just like the entire season has been. They need to start casting people over 25.

[@carolineg856]

@@DottieMinerva agree !!!

[@Meggibsonnotmel]

And the amount of people attacking Katie is appalling. She was one of the only ones that werent a BYSTANDER (which is just as bad as being the instigator).

[@dw5630]

I forgot some of the women were in their early 20s. Kit was 21, Serena P 22 and a few of the girls were 24. There’s no age to finding love but surely some of these girls aren’t looking for marriage. They still have a lot of life to live. But in saying that some of the younger girls were more mature than the older ones such as Serena P and Brittany

[@swirlyferly]

Yeah they don't deserve the men from Tayshia's season that they are about to meet in Paradise

[@swayamsiddha15]

"the house was never toxic until you made it toxic" so, for you, the person who pointed out the problem is the problem? sorry, what?

[@DottieMinerva]

Aka it didn’t personally effect her so she didn’t care.

[@tigerroselili5765]

Isn’t Rachael Lyndsey being attacked for how some people reacted to Chris Harrison’s response to her questions? This whole franchise is toxic.

[@imaspecialgirllalala]

The shitty thing too is that it lead to SO much toxicity TOWARDS Katie. I can’t believe the awful women of this season.

[@erynhall9392]

She really said “you smelt it you dealt it”

[@kaileim970]

Whistleblower syndrome... otherwise known as shooting the messenger.

[@danyelliebelly6964]

This whole season was shit, I can’t believe they cut out so many dates and now we can clearly see why Abigail and Katie felt blind sided. It’s driving me nuts that they had Heather there and did so much to cut her out.

[@bkopgamer]

It was the producers call on that note. But I actually do see what you are saying.

[@kimmyklo7848]

I’m glad it was pointed out here...I kept wondering if that was Heather because she was only shown from the back a few times. Not sure what’s wrong with the production & editing of this show but they need to hire a whole new team before this franchise self implodes.

[@danyelliebelly6964]

@@bkopgamer oh trust me I blame them. 😂

[@danyelliebelly6964]

@@kimmyklo7848 yeah I really don’t get it, like it’s obvious they had her there to talk about how the other girls reacted. But I don’t get why they cut her out. Yeah I agree idk what production is doing but I wish they would listen to their viewers.

[@jeffrifkin3603]

What was particularly upsetting to me was if Matt knew he was going to send Katie home, why pick up the rose and hold it b before telling her she's going home? She felt blindsided for several reasons and the one I cited was the icing on the cake.

[@enaalic1378]

I so badly wish there was a live audience to humble Chelsea, Serena C, Victoria, and the rest of the women who either partook in the bullying or turned a blind eye and said it didn't exist. I can't believe grown women can't acknowledge this.

[@anniebanana3698]

It's pretty sad that they didn't plan for and arrange a "virtual live audience" like some of the talk shows have done. Total missed opportunity IMO because I completely agree that it would've made a difference because I guarantee that any viewers that watched the show would've had Katie's back for sure!

[@abovewater6918]

The girls ganging on Katie and attacking her this episode, because Katie exposed them for being bullies really just proved Katie right.

[@chrismathgenius]

I lost a lot of respect for Chelsea when she blamed Katie for making the house toxic. She thinks that Katie should've never addressed the bullying, but I bet she would get mad if a racist act were to happen and no one addresses it. That would make her a hypocrite of course. She may had not been as toxic as Victoria, but she's far from innocent. Remember when she dismissed Ryan's concerns about being bullied?

[@nishamalik8135]

Chelsea is the worst type of bully. Of course she didn't think the house was toxic, she was part of it. Katie was right when she said that the people getting hate is their own karma

[@HiBye-um7lt]

I did too, I actually really liked her at first sharing her story about deciding to cut her hair. But after seeing her actions it was really disappointing to not only see her not accept her and the other girls mistakes but to also blame Katie for the toxicity.

[@cy583]

tbh I did too. I saw people questioning her in Twitter and she just couldn’t keep her responses on the same page and she just doesn’t want to admit her friends were toxic and she was a bystander

[@parrisnia72]

YUP. Same here

[@sippingsocialite9494]

Well for me...I never liked her. She's what we call a "Mammy" and it was confirmed when she made the "history" comment to Matt. For me, black women like Chelsea are dangerous because they will set you up to get harmed or abused by people or men for their own ego and than blame you for it. She's also very shallow and emotionally immature for her age and I can't take her seriously.

[@funchik93]

Katie did nothing wrong. Literally. Katie saved this pathetic excuse of a season.

[@terriboucha4030]

Yeah, it probably would have been uncomfortable to watch if she wasn’t there. All the bickering about new girls getting time and not deserving it, isolating them for showing up and being gorgeous.

[@chelsea.1234]

they’re salty that she’s a contender for bachelorette ☕️

[@sarasorensen2650]

Oh Katie! She needs something better than this!

[@jeffrifkin3603]

Katie appears to possess a wonderful character.

[@aprillawson4426]

Katie was the most moral, SANE one. She's emotionally stable, believes in accountability and honest communication. WAY too good for these silly ass shallow girls. They don't even know how to deal with her...

[@OllieOhh]

I peaced out of the episode when everyone was ganging up on Katie AGAIN. Like we get it, the herd mentality of the house still runs strong.

[@lexicoronado9831]

Katie was awesome

[@katzama12]

The thing that gets me is that Katie tried to have conversations with the group about the bullying, and was literally shot down/ ignored/ told to shut up. So like what did they want from her?

[@milenayashkina8641]

Internalized misogyny at its finest. Their logic coming after Katie made no sense to me...

[@Taterrx]

@@milenayashkina8641 I wouldn’t say it’s misogynistic...? It’s toxic and bullying but I think that these girls would be that cruel to anyone who got in their way, male or female. I feel like you’re just throwing labels around but misogyny isn’t really fitting

[@Blueeyesinthesky]

They could’ve literally asked her why she felt that way and discussed it maturely but instead chose to do that

[@Blueeyesinthesky]

They’re jealous that she’s confident in herself unlike all of them

[@bandaqueenlove9134]

exactlyyy

[@alexbubbles190]

Honestly this season and peter's just makes me think they don't care about bachelors finding love cause they don't work out often and they know it.

[@thelexicon7294]

@Arwyn This is a profoundly sad comment

[@KassandraQuiseng]

@Arwyn I can smell moldy cheese from this comment

[@milenayashkina8641]

@@thelexicon7294 Oh boy, an incel has entered the chat...

[@KassandraQuiseng]

@Arwyn “all these girls for the streets” smells! The comment just reeks.

[@KassandraQuiseng]

@Arwyn hmm like bad Brie... ammonia like, at least 2 weeks bad. Soft cheese does expire so quickly.

[@jdoe754]

Why 👏🏼 didn’t 👏🏼 Brittney 👏🏼 call 👏🏼 out 👏🏼 Batchelor 👏🏼 production 👏🏼 for 👏🏼 letting 👏🏼 that 👏🏼 rumor 👏🏼 be 👏🏼 played 👏🏼 out 👏🏼 on 👏🏼 national 👏🏼 tv 👏🏼 endangering 👏🏼 her 👏🏼 and 👏🏼 her 👏🏼 family👏🏼 and 👏🏼 slandering 👏🏼 her 👏🏼 name!?!?!?? 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@angerock49]

if she had they would have edited it out anyway

[@cyna1103]

Why was it even a big deal to Brittany? If I was her I would have just said no I’m not an escort and that’s my only comment ever. She milked it on how it affected her. If someone said something untrue about me I wouldn’t even waste my energy or breathe so I don’t know why she did??

[@DottieMinerva]

@@cyna1103 just because it wouldn’t effect you doesn’t mean it doesn’t effect someone else. It’s embarrassing.

[@bethanymclean2136]

@@cyna1103 There's a huge issue about how this country (the US) treats sex workers, and the stigma around being a sex worker. Having your name slandered like that on national television is a big deal and I'm absolutely not surprised she was affected by it

[@jdoe754]

@@bethanymclean2136 thank you. You hit the nail on the head

[@jessicaa.m.harper1727]

It's honestly infuriating how stupid their arguments were against Katie. And it felt like the numbers were stacked against Katie. I wish the girl who the rumor was concerning (Brittany?) or any of the other new girls would have spoken up like, "No the environment was toxic, and it wasn't Katie calling it toxic that made it that way." So frustrating.

[@Nikzcyn]

Yea I was surprised that they didn’t speak up and support Katie. Unless...the producers have done something there again.

[@hayleymarie6945]

It's possible the producers edited out their support for Katie

[@danielleadekogbe3396]

It may have happened and the producers cut it out. I can’t imagine Brittany would be silent after Katie stuck her neck out for her.

[@realmms]

I can’t believe the women harassing Katie for being a outstanding person and putting an end to the stupid bullying

[@gj1695]

Katie did the right thing. But she actively participated in the bullying before her change of heart. The other contestants may have had or may still have a change of heart, as well -- off camera. I don't think the fact that Katie's change of heart became a narrative on the show means that she's "outstanding" and the rest of cast are not.

[@lipshine1]

@@gj1695 I think you are confusing bully ( a form of harassment) and a single outburst of angry. Katie was mad at Sarah when she interrupted her. She didn’t harass Sarah constantly like the others and she didn’t continued to be mean to her like the others. She sat down with her talk it out and gave her grace and forgiveness about everything that happened. People like her because she stood up for others when they need help and everyone else didn’t.

[@sandixuchiha5527]

These aren’t women, they’re girls. Mean girls

[@gj1695]

@@lipshine1 I understand. My point is that we don't know the conversations they had or have off camera. ALL the girls, even Chelsea and Pieper, said that Katie was harsher on Sarah than they showed. That makes sense; production was giving her "The Bachelorette edit." Production can't possibly feature ALL of their redemption stories, so they focused on Katie's. And Anna's. Anna showed remorse and Brittany showed grace. She handled her "hot seat" moment beautifully. Anyway... the Bachelorette has been announced so you have your girl!

[@lennysvibe]

Wait...what? I thought this was the first black bachelor season...WHERE ARE THE BEAUTIFUL BLACK WOMEN! I'M CONFUSED?

[@terriboucha4030]

Katie did bring it up though too with the women before she told Matt, there’s even a clip of it. She was like “we should make room and be more welcoming” and they all scoffed at her and held onto their insecurities and right to be more upset and entitled to the new girls. So she did try, she maybe didn’t wait that long but they probably still would have held on to their entitlement as OG’s anyway

[@xxsapphicslayerxx]

Exactly!! Katie did the right thing and all of the “OG’s” were only upset because their reputation with Matt was tarnished and he ultimately sent 3 girls home (Anna, Victoria, MJ) because he didn’t want to put up with petty bullying. It was never about inserting herself into drama, and only about making a comfortable situation for everyone staying at Nemacolin

[@alepuddin3232]

And even at that point Chelsea also scoffed and started laughing. And jessenia as well she just flipped the switch once she saw all the mean girls going home. Also to note: when Victoria was talking to ryan if she was sensitive or something Chelsea was laughing in the background

[@bozjeemma]

Omg yes I was looking for someone to call this out! I was wondering if I remembered it wrong, but like you said she tried to bring it up multiple times. And I think also something being glossed over is that when you are the only one saying things like "guys lets be nice" in such a big group, it will get exhausting really quickly because you have no support. I feel like her fight with Serena C is a great example of her just being exhausted, having to deal with illogical attacks when she was just trying to do the right thing..

[@Jacob-ip4yt]

I know and the fact that Khaylah tried to say that Chelsea was "starting a dialogue" is such bullshit!! And then Chelsea tried to act like she had the moral highground and gas lit Katie into thinking thats what she was doing when all she did was try to downplay the toxicity!! Talk about a lack of critical thinking and self awareness. Katie tried to start a dialogue to the women to be more welcoming and to keep it classy and they all scoffed at her like wtf this show is mind boggling to watch sometimes and I feel gas lit as an audience member too

[@bandaqueenlove9134]

right!!

[@iCatherine1313]

When Anna said Chicago was a small town I almost turned off the TV 😂💀

[@maddieperkins8137]

right? literally the third largest city in the U.S. I'm from Tulsa Oklahoma with half a million people and THAT'S not even a small town

[@kaileim970]

Maybe for the party people it is.

[@BritClips]

She means as in the locals know each other in the same circles. I'm from a large holiday resort in England which is swarming with people in the summer. However it is the same locals you see when you go to certain. places so in that respect it is a small place.

[@RamanN00B]

I literally screamed. I'm from Chicago and my guess is Anna is from the suburbs where everyone says they're from Chicago. Chicago is a huge city like ????

[@kimmyklo7848]

Chicago is definitely not a small town. There are social circles and certain neighborhoods known for being trendy, but her saying Chicago is a small town makes her sound like a ding dong.

[@benk718]

Katie didn’t light the fire she just exposed it. Funny how those girls were mad at her for having a spine.

[@bozjeemma]

And people keep saying "there's things that happened that will never come to light, but that's why we hate Katie". Okay but why won't it ever come to light? Just tell us?

[@brindavyas3746]

They cut dates, yet no cut on crazy rumors. So disappointing and no redemption arcs

[@nataliacruz6218]

Honestly they could have cut out the sex work arch

[@a.sydney5036]

But they couldn’t really cut the rumor. It was the reason Anna went home. It was the part of the reason why Katie had a falling out with other housemates. The theme this season was bullying.

[@rotben5420]

@@a.sydney5036 they could just not show what the rumor is about. Katie was pretty vague about the rumor, they could just say Anna spread a life ruining rumor and end it at that

[@beccag2758]

@@rotben5420 agreed! Like I get that everything loses context if they just cut everything else, but they should’ve at LEAST kept it vague or maybe like... I dunno valued someone’s future over their ratings?

[@violetjane7152]

Yeah, but what made it worse was how the promos leading up to the episode, production was making it out like she was an escort . Production was exploiting a false rumor for ratings which is defamation. I mean the show is very much to blame for this, because they could have cut it out, which would have been the right thing to do.

[@lilmissaet]

Justice for the lost Tayshia footage!

[@carolineg856]

yes yes yes I love tayshia

[@AB-mx1de]

Yes! Love her, when was she there?

[@anhbarker]

We need that Tayshia footage!!!!!!

[@layansasa7775]

She’s literally gold

[@purplemusiclover1597]

Agreed I got so excited seeing her and they never showed it

[@fawnq]

Khayla’s point of having a conversation before bringing it to Matt doesn’t apply though because Katie tried multiple times to have a conversation with the bullies but it was shut down or ignored.

[@a.sydney5036]

Exactly 😂. Didn’t d Victoria say she expresses herself by making fun of people and calling them names, when Katie confronted her?

[@maressaspinak6526]

Interestingly, Khayla was eliminated the night the new women arrived so she wasn’t there to witness the majority of the issues that lead Katie to talk to Matt

[@parrisnia72]

Exactly!

[@rachelm.3173]

Right!

[@sippingsocialite9494]

It for sure doesn't apply because these women were BULLYING...you can not have dialogue with people who are BULLYING as they are already proven to have an immature mentality. TF was Khayla even talking about...the show is about MATT and the focus should've been on MATT regardless who came in the door weeks later...no one should've been following anyone around like they in some sorority house. These women are not ready to be wives because they have A LOT of growing up to do.

[@lemonvernon]

"The house was never toxic, until you made it toxic." WHAT??!?! KATIE NEVER DID ANYTHING WRONG 😭😂

[@brianna677]

I KNOWWWW!!! This is where having an audience would have helped lift Katie up a bit 😔

[@tulip5210]

@@brianna677 UHG U RIGHT

[@Blueeyesinthesky]

They’re pretty but not very smart

[@nicolebayless]

PFFFFF PLEASE CHELSEA, KATIE DIDN’T START SH*T, SHE FINISHED IT LOL

[@thelexlove]

period

[@anhbarker]

Yes!!!!!!

[@layansasa7775]

Ur the best

[@CarolinaMouse]

Exactly...case closed. enough said, end of story and yes Chelsea END OF DISCUSSION!!!

[@brieb4317]

Yeah she just refused to acknowledge what the whole nation saw lmao chile please

[@LynnsYouTube]

"It was not toxic until you made it toxic by bringing the subject up to Matt." I really liked Chelsea on the show for the most part, but this is what narcissistic bullies say when people bring the truth to light. Like she was saying, "Their cruel actions and my denial of their cruelty wasn't toxic until you told the truth. Telling the truth is the toxic thing." That's really unhealthy. Another typical naricissistic comment is, "You're just too sensitive," similar to what Victoria said. That's blame shifting the fault from her cruel actions to making it about her being sensitive.

[@thelexicon7294]

This. Thank you.

[@kat8559]

Just say bullies or abusers. No reason to bring narcissists into this.

[@LynnsYouTube]

@@kat8559, you're right. Not all narcissists are bullies or abusers. I've been studying narcissism a lot lately and these things I mentioned are characteristics of things narcissists do.

[@MsLolaTaylor]

@@kat8559 The literal basis of being a narcissist is being abusive. The premise is lacking empathy. That is what prevents us from acting out abuse onto others.

[@aprilrae6551]

I'm not understanding why you believe Chelsea is a narcissist?She didn't participate in any of the bullying. She just didn't speak against it. Everyone isn't an outspoken person. That is not necessarily a bad thing.

[@amandatidey5751]

Anyone who had Taylor Nolan as a therapist deserves a refund and also extra free therapy. Also everyone seems to praise and love Chelsea and I'm sorry but I don't get it..I haven't really seen one likeable thing about her..like what was her solution..let's just keep bullying these women??

[@danaa6296]

Yes! Not a fan of Chelsea at all. She still believes the house wasn’t toxic after watching the show smh 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@tigerroselili5765]

Facts.

[@mbs811]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jessicaa.m.harper1727]

"The mistreatment and rumors didn't effect me so I don't think the house is toxic."

[@chelsea.1234]

I agree!! There are never any good contestants on this show with my name 😩

[@keane-annstjean6572]

Kayla has a point but at the same time I think that Katie DID ask the ladies to stop but they brushed her off! I don't get how they watched back the show and still have issues with Katie!

[@bytheBrooke]

I thought so too! I think Katie addressed it on a group date and they "kinda" started to cool drama down a bit until they started right back up again.

[@mollyterrell881]

i’m torn about wanting either katie or abigail as the bachelorette. on one hand, i think abigail is a beautiful person and it would be great rep, but on the other hand, i think katie would be SO refreshing to the franchise.

[@a.sydney5036]

Abigail has like no personality. 😕. She’s known for her disability. That was what they lead with. That’s also partly why she got the first impression rose. She’s beautiful but I just don’t see her carrying a whole season.

[@phoenixgirl70]

I think Katie would be excellent! She has a moral compass, a great sense of humor, maturity and can communicate well. I really hope it’s her, but for some reason I think they’ll pick Abigail but I hope I’m wrong.

[@a.sydney5036]

@@phoenixgirl70 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 yes. She’s a great communicator. Her and Serena.

[@Abbyabee]

my top picks are Michelle (if she’s not matt’s pick) and Katie! i think Abigail would be great too, being the first deaf asian american lead, but it also kind of rubs me the wrong way that she’s friends with lots of the mean girls :/

[@Blueeyesinthesky]

I love that a Abigail is nice and inspires the deaf community but she went along with the bullying and I honestly feel like we got to know Katie better as a person. We know what Katie wants in a husband, that she’s willing to stand up for what she believes in and what’s right even if the whole room disagrees, that she’s empathetic towards others, is forgiving, smart, funny, and confident. All I know about Abigail is that her type is a guy like Matt, her kids could be deaf, she is deaf, and sweet. In my opinion I’d like to see Katie be bachelorette

[@charlottep4222]

If the girls are so upset about the “backlash” (from their own actions) maybe they shouldn’t double down and attack the one girl people actually liked.

[@dgmlmax]

Katie did try to tell the girls to stop bullying.

[@Lulu-kt6gr]

I want Katie to be bachelorette more than ever now! I think those girls are jealous of all of the rumors about her becoming the bachelorette. Hannah B got some of that too. I don’t care what else was going on behind the scenes, Katie was one of the few decent people on the show. She showed compassion for Sarah when no one else would, and she did the right thing every time. She was never rude to anyone. Katie for bachelorette!

[@medraut_pen]

If I'm being honest, the way the rumors around Brittany were handled should get someone fired. Especially considering the amount of romantic/light-hearted stuff that was cut.

[@kimmyklo7848]

Totally agree - the production & editing teams should be replaced. The bachelor franchise is ready to self implode.

[@kiraemily5517]

I'm curious what her contract says because she should sue them for not cutting that out

[@jenhall4085]

There was just a lot of immature people on this season. That’s why they still can’t accept that they made mistakes even after watching it back. If you can’t admit you made a mistake or blame it on the person who called you out on it you need to do some growing

[@missmusicforever02]

I don’t think any of us even like the show anymore yet we continue to watch ?!?!

[@KC-ep6sg]

I just watch bachelor fantake now 😂 I haven't watched in a few weeks now, and watching these recaps reassures me that I'm not missing out on anything

[@clementine1827]

@@KC-ep6sg same. Keeps me from waisting my time

[@Nehway]

I stopped the night Victoria left lol. It’s been Bachelor Fantake since then cause whew child

[@Christina-xc7on]

I'm just here to support Bachelor Fantake. He really took a hit watching this season so we didn't have to

[@maryannefu6791]

Because every once in a while... there's a Tayshia and Zac :')

[@UnCreativeBeliever]

The whole show was about gaslighting Katie, ignoring Heather and the bullying that happened to her, and Matt acting like the women did nothing wrong.

[@ImenBen12]

Disappointed in Matt he didn't address the bullying from Victoria and even told MJ I wish we spent more time, really !?? :/

[@themiamilife]

Heather wasn't as interesting

[@pluto31337]

This season was a hot mess

[@503mama]

Katie was done so dirty by these childish girls; their logic is nonexistent and they’re just mad they got caught. Jessenia is also so mature and carries herself like a gem, proud of her and Katie for calling out the mean girls and not letting them get away

[@lillianwilson13]

This would have gone very differently had there been a live audience

[@pokachu7860]

Yeah, right? didn't even thought about that. The response from the audience to everyone ganging up on Katie AGAIN (even after seeing themselves on tv) would have shown these girls at least some sort of reality check, letting them know that they are absolutely in the wrong here.

[@CarolinaMouse]

I would have LOVED that!!!!

[@parrisnia72]

OMG YESSS! I didn't think about that but you're so right!

[@parrisnia72]

They would've booed Victoria and Anna. And any of the mean girls and their comments tbh 😂

[@sophiepritchett3779]

I was shocked and pissed about how much footage was cut that would have made the season slightly more bearable!

[@ren.24]

Literally begging for an actual good Bachelor season. Begging. The bachelorette is so much more enjoyable but it doesn’t have to be this way. Hoping this is the final straw and things improve next time around.

[@marissavillegas3463]

I thought this too because Tayshas season was so good but I guess not :/

[@ren.24]

@@marissavillegas3463 exactly 😩 maybe someday

[@colorfulskies3266]

Is it always like this or do you think it’s like this because they’ve never done this before?

[@ren.24]

@@colorfulskies3266 done what before exactly? This is like the bajillionth season of the bachelor. They did the same thing with Peter’s season, focusing on drama and not love stories. It’s not like this was a one time deal

[@colorfulskies3266]

@@ren.24 I meant does none of them having been on a season of the bachelor/bachelorette contribute to how bad this season got? Like I feel as though people who’ve had the experience know how to navigate through it better.

[@beetleyr]

How the girls treated Katie por pointing out to Matt there was a horrible rumor going around and the toxicity at the house, baffles me. I cannot understand how you lived at the house and you are watching the season and you still think Katie was wrong. They can't seem to understand it had nothing to do with her relationship with Matt. I was really surprised when I saw Chelsea having the same attitude as Serena C. Mean girl attitude. Grown ass women with high school behavior. Unbelievable. And the Victoria's clips at the end were LITERALLY painful.

[@tulip5210]

And there assumptions too when she forgave sarah like bro, what is wrong with you. Katie did a good thing.

[@Nikzcyn]

Mari or whatever her name is, called Katie “fake as hell.” Someone give her a dictionary.

[@howdyitsmak]

For me, Abigail was the part of the tell all that stood out to me. She comes across so genuinely and you can tell that she understands how impactful her being on the show has been for the hearing impaired community

[@chelsea.1234]

I was shocked that Jessenia was the only one that had Katie’s back! tbh Katie, Abigail, Brittany, Jessenia, and Serena P. are the only ones that came across well at the WTA. edit: why did Pieper get a whole hot seat segment?? we didn’t really see a lot of her relationship with Matt.

[@xxttiiffaannyyxx]

idk if it was edited out but from what we saw i don’t understand why brittany didn’t say thank you or stand up for katie cause katie literally did that for her??

[@Sunny-lp1gr]

I thought Ryan came off well too by calling out Victoria’s behaviour on the show

[@chelsea.1234]

@@Sunny-lp1gr oh yeah true!!

[@chelsea.1234]

@@xxttiiffaannyyxx omg good point! 😮

[@cierralowery7096]

The producers seem like a major contributor to the toxicity

[@timshottakes4673]

So there’s no way Chelsea still has fans right... RIGHT??!!

[@jordanpowell7235]

Her gas lighting Katie was the final straw

[@danielleadekogbe3396]

Unfollowed her immediately, so disappointing 😕

[@Rikkilover17]

i unfollowed her, even if she didnt personally experience bullying you are clearly seeing several girls boohooing about how they were treated terribly and your like, meh! sucks for you! like bullying was already going on in the house, Katie only intervined because it hit a fever pitch of accusing someone of being a sex worker

[@aprilrae6551]

I still like Chelsea I think she is a kind, supportive person. Maybe she was friends with the bullies, but she tried to be nice to everyone.

[@hazel-rah1216]

@@aprilrae6551 listen to her interview with the gals on "Here to Make Friends" podcast. She talks more about this. I think she is a really sweet laid back person.

[@NataliaWahl]

This Women Tell All was so boring and a waste of time. How they ran it shows me production has not listened to feedback from Bachelor Nation. Sucks they didn’t show footage of Heather at the Tell All. I would have loved to have seen more of the day portion of the dates as well as Tayshia and Jojo during the season instead of so much drama.🤦🏻‍♀️

[@MariGEspinoza]

Poor Katie. Chelsea, Piper, Serena C, and Mari, we’re absolutely disgusting. 😒 Poor Brittany too, I wish she had more justice. How is it okay, that everyone who was being horrible is apologizing is asking Matt not to see them in bad light, but jumping on Katie. OK

[@melrosegeorge6960]

Boring ending every one knows who Matt is going to choose

[@alli2448]

@@melrosegeorge6960 exactly it’s sooo obvious 😒

[@annarobbins213]

That’s the infuriating thing. They KNOW they’re in the wrong, otherwise they wouldn’t be worried about how Matt perceives them, but they’re so PAINFULLY self-absorbed that they expect to be allowed to keep being assholes without facing any consequences. Harassment on social media is never okay, but they’ve got to understand on SOME level that they’re experiencing this backlash because of their own shitty behavior, right? Or are they seriously so delusional they don’t get it?

[@jenniferd5477]

Thank you for Defending Katie ! I don’t get how the girls after watching themselves on tv and bad time to reflect on their behavior this season and still act this way towards her .... this is crazy ... I’m so sad for her

[@sxzane5545]

i don’t know why but when katie and abigail showed up i physically waved at them. i was sitting in bed in the dark and i waved at them.

[@mini627765]

This comment made me actually laugh out loud 😂

[@carolineg856]

@@mini627765 same haha

[@thatssoapril405]

this comment TOO loud i did too !!!!!!

[@chelsea.1234]

I clapped for them hahaha 😂

[@pokachu7860]

this is so wholesome

[@Maria_745]

I'm starting to the producers are tanking the show. Why did they cut everything interesting and keep all of this trash drama?

[@Naija4K]

Why would they want to have the black lead season go well? They were literally forced to cast him!

[@Maria_745]

@@Naija4K go be racist on someone else's comment

[@kimmyklo7848]

The production & editing of this show has gone downhill. The whole franchise seems to be self-imploding.

[@Hallelujur]

@@Naija4K Spot on!! They did Matt epically wrong! And the worst is yet to come. They brought his estranged father on. I hope karma gets them for this. 🤮

[@morganbishop7146]

@@Naija4K been saying this! all of this was def done on purpose

[@DottieMinerva]

Someone on Twitter mentioned that these women will be matched up with Tayshias guy on Bachelor In Paradise, and that is a shame.

[@milenayashkina8641]

I think Peter's girls haven't been on BIP yet, but they're not much better 😭

[@juliannesmommy6694]

Kendall? Let's go back to Ari's season.....

[@juliannesmommy6694]

There are some nice ones, though. Matt seemed to choose nice ones for the top. Serena, Bri, Abigail (if not bachelorette), etc. Oh. I guess Colton's season too.

[@DottieMinerva]

@@milenayashkina8641 this group is making peters women look great at this point 😂 I really thought we could only go up from his season but here we are.

[@DottieMinerva]

@@juliannesmommy6694 yes there were some gems in there for sure. I’m just worried the producers will pick the ones like the other Serena and MJ. I stg if they have Victoria on I will fight someone.

[@razone4317]

I don't understand why Chris Harrison always goes easy on the women. That's my biggest frustration with the WTAs and him in general. I know he's not a therapist, but if these women are bullies, then he should shoot them tough questions.

[@anniebanana3698]

OMG, I read, "if the women are bullies, then he should shoot them" and was like, "well that escalated quickly"... but then I finished your sentence. Phew! LOL!

[@ImenBen12]

Fully fully agree he literally didn't do anything, we need him or a host to ask better questions. He loves the drama so much but come on there was too much bully and no one addressed it correctly! And Matt ugh! He even told MJ I wish we spoke more :/

[@DottieMinerva]

Every single thing we wanted to see is on the cutting room floor.

[@hazelconchata7681]

Exactly

[@pokachu7860]

Truer words have never been spoken.

[@howdyitsmak]

I was kind of shook seeing JUST how much was cutout as far as dates/content and for what? Showing a ton of dumb drama, feels like a miss to me

[@kaileim970]

Mean drama at that

[@mkanee]

Idky but I really dislike piper. She’s a low key mean girl

[@naila.a.88]

Yes I feel the same, her looks and expressions seem super judgemental and fake!

[@DreamBigLove10]

Pieper was a mean girl. She just didn’t get that title because once Victoria and Anna were gone they decided to focus on the romance instead of the drama.

[@Go8997]

Piper is sus. The way she ganged up on katie shows emotionally immaturity

[@alepuddin3232]

Pieper since the beginning showed he true colors never liked her and once heather came in and she was rude behind her back i just got so mad

[@howdycowboy247]

She makes me uncomfy and I can't put my finger on why

[@pokachu7860]

Can't believe they spend that much time berating Katie when she was one of the only sane and emphatetic person. Honestly I have no respect for most of the women there, and furthermore, I put in doubt their intelligence. Mari, Serena C, Chelsea, there isn't a word out of their mouths that has the littlest bit connection to reality. Just unbelievable. And by the edit they gave Victoria in this episode I have NO DOUBT she will be in Paradise. What a waste of everyone's time. RELEASE THE JOJO'S AND TAYSHIA'S TAPES BACHELOR PRODUCERS, how dare you?

[@leeeyannn]

i cant believe heather was brought there only for us to see the back of her head 🥺💀

[@pandabear4640]

I can only because they made such a huge deal out of her being there and she got cut the same night. The way the OGs acted just shows how insecure they are. I’m not sure why they brought Heather in so late and not when they brought in the other new girls (probably just to add to the “drama”).

[@theelephantroom3948]

'there were rumors started that could be detrimental to your life.. let's rewatch all of that' ..but why

[@caitlinbuttars3964]

Is it just me or do the producers edit the bachelor season like they themselves hate the bachelor? They give Bachelorette a way better edit and season.

[@MsLolaTaylor]

Someone said they were purposely sabotaging this season to prevent another black Bachelor🙃

[@littlebluemermaid9367]

@@MsLolaTaylor You know what, I slowly believe this theory is possible 🤣 They made Juan Pablo the villian of his Bachelor Season and never had a Latino Bachelor again, so maybe they tried this again with Matt.... 🙃

[@dgmlmax]

I’d say fire whoever is in charge of final editing, and more importantly whoever chooses some of these characters. If they had looked into who each is, this seasons drama wouldn’t have happened. They need to get back to the roots of the show. I can watch awful news on the many news shows available.

[@JennnSaidWhat]

The producers dropped the ball in so many ways this season. They dropped it, kicked the ball into the yard where the ball then got run over by a trash truck, leaving the ball completely deflated & lifeless.

[@amandathomas3953]

Then the ball spontaneously caught on fire.

[@bs4e]

And then got blamed for creating a toxic environment.

[@sunflowerrylou720]

i think its so immature that people blame Katie who was the only responsible person and took accountability for her actions and called people out for genuine awful things. it had nothing to do with Matt, it had to do with integrity and doing what’s right

[@briannachante1032]

Chelsea I was rooting for you!! You turned out to be a mean girl too😒

[@a_2502]

Girl for real!!!

[@a_2502]

@@cfbg Uhm, she actually seemed really cool, nice and level-headed. Not only because she's black lol wth. Doesn't mean she isn't all of those but the situation with Katie calling out the mean girls and Chelsea being mad about that went over her head

[@briannachante1032]

AK you said it perfectly! Sometimes we have to let each other know when we wrong.

[@KidTreky]

@@cfbg you a weirdo for that one 😒

[@moonchildkath91]

wish Brittany would've gotten more actually high quality time on the show. I really admire the way she handled something so horrible, and also the way she went out of her way to be like also there's nothing wrong with being an escort like !! i'm a fan

[@Nikzcyn]

My first impression of her on the show was not that great, but she has shown more class and maturity than others on the show and I appreciate her for that.

[@Deina7]

They were mad at Katie because she exposed them. That’s it, and that’s why I love her and they don’t.

[@mishapatel7387]

Anna: "Chicago is a small town" Chicago is the third most populated city in America with almost 3 million residents. How is that small?

[@Dreamlillie_95]

The tell all pissed me TF OFF!! 🤬😡

[@MrCrockaG]

If fans were allowed, I think it would've gone way differently. Honestly I think a lot of the girls would have been booed for how they treated Katie

[@tinenga6761]

Ugh exactly! I wish there were an audience to boo all those mean girls

[@lishamon]

"everything was fine until you brought our bullying up" 🤣

[@mattlastname1869]

when i saw the footage with jojo and tayshia i felt snubbed like. abc i’d have much rather watch them do literally nothing than rehash drama from the season

[@jillianrae372]

Right?? Especially the drama between mj and Jessenia. I felt like that wasn’t necessary and came out of nowhere

[@tinenga6761]

Seriously i wanted to watch more of them!

[@011CRB]

They spent a whole episode on Sarah and she's not even there?? What they've kept vs cut this season makes no fucking sense

[@nataliacruz6218]

Not all the girls are able to come out or want to, especially because her dads been ill

[@ananya6312]

@@nataliacruz6218 Bro I don’t think she’s even with her dad rn it sure doesn’t seem like it on her social media

[@fefe5908]

i think they had to go through more covid tests to be there or maybe she chose not to go

[@isabelsavv]

she couldn’t take the heat seeing as she had a boyfriend the whole time 🤪

[@Sheva.L]

I just don’t understand. The Abigail issue was NOT addressed AT ALL!! He literally said thank you and looked away like next pls. Also I love Abigail but she said she had so many questions so why didn’t she ask them?

[@a_2502]

wait what was the issue?

[@Nikzcyn]

I realized she is someone who wouldn’t stand up for herself or others. And that bugs me a lot.

[@roxannecoffey5428]

I think the real question for her was why he didn't give her a one on one date at any point.... and the answer may be on the cutting room floor. We didn't see so much of the group dates that that have shed light on their relationship and let the audience understand that they didn't have the same chemistry.

[@morganbishop7146]

@@Nikzcyn i honestly think she’s just shy 🤷🏽‍♀️ being deaf in a room full of hearing people is probably overwhelming

[@finthehuman3649]

i hate to say it but i really wanted to root for Chelsea (love her hair, and i always root for the black girls), but her behaviour was trashhh

[@dominicburke8908]

Root for bri and michelle, they seem lovely!

[@nubeaguilar3650]

Emotions ran high last night it was a lot. I agree with how many of the arguments weren't fitting or justified the behavior in the household, there was a problem. I also agree that the bachelor franchise could have handled the escort situation better since they have damaged brittany's reputation. This rumor was used against her and for drama and that's all this season has been about to be honest.

[@jjasmineluv]

It seems like this season was actually "Normal" but they cut out all the normal and just left the drama. Every season has drama but also good moments, So it seems like They just cut out all the Good stuff.

[@ashleycotterell5419]

I just finished watching the Bachelorette NZ yesterday, and it honestly doesn't even feel like the same show. It's 100% focused on the romance developing, with real, mature adults. It was halfway through the season before there was even a kiss, because no one forced anything. I don't think I can watch the American version anymore :/

[@Christina-xc7on]

Where do you watch the NZ one? That sounds lovely

[@tjc2121]

We definitely need to take notes and do a rebranding of the show. These last few seasons of the Bachelor have been exhausting to watch.

[@elizabethrosenielsen2953]

You can watch the nz one free on a site called tvnz on demand. It may not work for people outside NZ though but worth a try.

[@ashleycotterell5419]

@@Christina-xc7on I don't think it will let me put a link here, but the site is tv2me . net It has a few of the more recent Australia seasons too, some of which are good some are eh. The initial ones though are amazing and I love them!

[@tjc2121]

Both Victoria and MJ said something along the lines of "well I did the best that I could in that situation". Well if that is your best, then I don't want to see you at your worst. These girls need to be ashamed of their behavior. I really don't want to see them on paradise

[@olivergarrick1175]

Piper was a mean girl her behaviour wasn't nice and she so shady and she is same one that diss heather 😒

[@moni6087]

never liked her

[@pittsburge88]

Wrong!

[@tulip5210]

When covid is over katie deserves a round of applause

[@Africanbeautyy93]

Over Chelsea! Eww.. what is she taking about? How are y’all blaming Katie for what you guys did. Katie did what a DECENT a human being would do. Call out things that aren’t right.. Chelsea and the rest of the mob going against Katie are clearly DELLUSIONAL. People disgust me

[@SmellsLikeNirvanaaa]

I’m so happy you used a clip from community 😂 it’s my favorite show of all time. I love your videos. Keep up the good work 💕

[@hismione634]

We (momentarily) got rid of Chris Harrison, can we please get rid of the producers and get a new batch who are interested in making a good and positive TV show ?

[@Oceangirl_505]

With Chris Harrison being the Executive Producer, he sets the tone. Bullying, creating drama (women showing up after the season is well underway, bringing Matt's father in, choosing immature, dysfunctional contestants, etc, etc) will only stop from the leadership. Even in spite of his racial insensitivity, he needs to go. That's the only way that the show gets back to what it was originally intended to be. IMO

[@thesnoopydance645]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@Christina-xc7on]

They need to make some serious changes. This show is unwatchable now

[@a_2502]

I never watched it until this season because it looked interesting. Then I got to seeing like the first episode of others and man these producers just love bringing in that 1-3 problem people. I actually want to watch people genuinely falling involve without the token crazy person for drama. No one cares too much for the drama anymore

[@Black_Rose1234]

@@a_2502 This was my 1st season of The Bachelor as well. And I only watched because they cast a black lead, boy was I disappointed!

[@colorfulskies3266]

There’s a huge difference between the Katie and Sarah situation vs. what the other girls did. Katie came after Sarah for interrupting a date she was not invited to, after she had a one on one with Matt already. Katie told the other girls what’s up and then talked to Sarah about it. After Sarah got attacked, Katie went to go sort things out. She realized her unfair behavior and proceeded to stand up on Sarah’s behalf when she left. Katie knew her fault, owned up to it, fixed it, and stood up for the other women being hated on. My opinion is that at the time Katie wasn’t necessarily thinking about how this would affect her and Matt’s relationship. A conclusion you could make is that Katie liked and respected Matt, so she told him what’s up so he wouldn’t end up with a two faced b*tch in the end. If Katie was truly a rude person off camera then someone would’ve called her out like Jessenia called out MJ’s multiple personalities.

[@StormyKid27]

Yes!!

[@bandaqueenlove9134]

EXACTLY! Also she was the only one who went to talk to Sarah and hear what she had to say

[@ginaj1814]

I was so mad when I saw they had Tayshia and Jojo there and cut it completely out of the season

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

Can one of the Chelsea stans please explain to me why? Like...i liked her physically when she first arrived (she is a beautiful woman) but after that (like with much of the woman this season) I didn't care for her gaslighting of the bully situation. Yet Katie is getting bragged?

[@Ahamilton89]

When Chelsea giggled when Katie tried To talk sense to the bullies during the season I knew she was team bully. The environment was toxic prior to Katie calling them out. Period. Katie owed them no dialogue prior to going to MATT they’re grown ... BUT really KATIE did talk to them and they didn’t budge! So Khayla is tripping. It’s fair to say Matt did not want a bully because he sent those girls home and didn’t let them rectify it. So apparently Katie did what was best for Matt and ultimately she was a voice for the girls that were bullied

[@baileywengerherrera6185]

Yeah, the editing of the whole season has been so odd and confusing. The women tell all was no different.

[@scorpionmish]

I have accepted the fact that production was determined to make sure this season failed. This whole season is the worst and I'm tired. Bachelor Nation can have this show. Thanks Fantake for providing entertainment even through all this foolishness.

[@lenaj2696]

The Bachelor has completely departed from the kind of show we used to enjoy.

[@Shanerapanera45]

Your editing made this episode sooooo much better

[@ariamenacho288]

I am honestly disgusted by a lot of woman from this cast

[@Oceangirl_505]

Mr. BF, my hats off to you. I couldn't have watched this enough times to develop this video. Well done, thanks for taking one for the team. 👍

[@christianlarson2933]

Between Bachelor Nation throwing Chris Harrison under the bus and this being the absolute worst season ever, I am officially done with this franchise. And it feels... like a relief?

[@littlebluemermaid9367]

Me too! This WTA was the last straw! Production let the bullies bully again and Matt even apologized to bully queen Victoria for offending her? Like what?! I am so over this franchise!!

[@fisrebel]

I ship Bachelor Fantake and Katie. It’s obvious 😊

[@BriannaAddison]

I've been beside the phone waiting for you to upload about last night's episode... Love your videos!

[@somethingaboutthewoods]

You're doing the Lord's work with these recaps-love your commentary and insight!

[@AnnikaAvenue]

Thank you for your recaps, fantake! You saved me from actually having to watch this season :D

[@tulip5210]

I like bri for bachelorette, I also really love abigail and katie as people and could see them for bachelorrette. But I would prefer katie for bachelorrette

[@a_2502]

LOVE Bri. Wish they showed a little more of her but I think it's mainly she's on the quieter side

[@herenkim]

i think the producers really need to rethink how they carry on following seasons. people don't want endless footage of petty drama, it just makes the audience unable to connect with the cast and its tiring. romance and genuine moments are way more fun to watch. ofc some drama is fun but not when the whole plot is surrounded around it.

[@hazelconchata7681]

If I took away one thing from the WTA, is that the editing was the destruction of a season with so much potential. Matt was /is a great Bachelor. Production really didn’t have to do him like that😔 We love the love more than the drama man.

[@cerisebiscuit51]

~Literally~ the most draining episode in this already draining season.

[@Notthatcereal]

I have watched most this season through you and don't feel I missed a thing. Thank you