The Bachelor After The Final Rose Recap - Matt James Season 25

[@BachelorFantake]

Thanks for joining me for this season! More content is on the way during the off season :)

[@cerisebiscuit51]

Thank you for all the work you put into each and every single one of your videos. I look forward to them after every episode and they give me so much joy. Will you accept this🌹

[@kimkarrillo648]

Hi. You did an amazing job this season. Love from Zambia

[@estizzababawande5640]

You rock Fantake!!

[@katy4523]

What off season? We have a mountain of new content coming 😂😂😂😂 Two 👏 Bachelorettes 👏👏👏👏

[@sophiepritchett3779]

Your recaps are the only thing that has been keeping me sane throughout this train wreck of a season! I don’t know how you do it every single week! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@maya_mak]

I found it annoying when Matt said he would’ve had the 2 minute convo with Michelle if he knew how she felt. Like how did Matt expect her to react to being dumped after just saying she loved him and giving him a matching jersey??

[@estizzababawande5640]

Everything is not as it seems. That screams producer manipulation if you ask me

[@beccag2758]

Yeah that was really cold. I know it’s possible the producers did something, but honestly that sort of conversation seems like something the production LIVES for, like something doesn’t add up here

[@heejungbyun6934]

I think it's more interesting because Michelle said that she asked to speak to Matt (suggesting she couldn't get in contact with him) and Matt said "he would have fought harder" (suggesting someone was preventing/deterring him from speaking to her)

[@amandatidey5751]

Instead of proposing to Rachael he is like "I want to continue our relationship and I also got you a special gift" *pulls out the 2 jerseys that say Mrs and Mr James*

[@innerbabe4089]

For real. Major cop out.

[@olivergarrick672]

Michelle told him to come up with more phrases than" thank for sharing "😂 Michelle really came for his neck at the end good for him.

[@subarux4054]

As she should lol 😆

[@treyking1432]

That really wasn't that serious lol

[@zibbi388]

@@treyking1432 but really funny

[@averymorgan3721]

She forgot: Likewise. 😂😂

[@KSynBlaze]

Oliver Garrick:-- I concur.

[@teralashun8656]

I was here for Michelle shading the hell out of Matt and walking out like a model

[@1313sp]

Team Michelle!!

[@innerbabe4089]

Same

[@treyking1432]

You didn't even see her walk out lol

[@teralashun8656]

@@treyking1432 but you can imagine she did it with complete fierceness because she is The Bachelorette... lol

[@teralashun8656]

@T J lol!!!!! you're funny!

[@EmanNabil]

I am not gonna lie, but my head was boiling when Matt said that he would have talked to Michelle if he knew how she felt ... like dude even if you didn't know, why did you ignore her like that as if you guys shared nothing together? as if she meant nothing to you?! edit: holy molly thanks for the likes, I agree with what all of you said ..I also hated how he sees himself as his dad and not a better version of him, scared to "do the same mistake" that only proves that he has no trust in his own self and knows damn well that there is something wrong he's doing/gonna do!

[@kat8559]

Yeah same. What bullshit. "If I knew how you felt" you never FOUND OUT how she felt! Because you wouldn't talk to her! How much of matt is the producer's fault? This whole thing is such a mess.

[@Christina-xc7on]

I read that comment as maybe production prevented the meeting, like they did not tell Matt Michelle wanted to talk again or misrepresented her intentions to him.

[@katy4523]

I think production lied to him about her intentions moreso than any of this

[@crimbleland]

I feel producers had a say in that, I don’t blame Matt.

[@vanessarizzo9084]

I think the fact that Matt said that if he’d had known, he would’ve “fought” for that conversation, means that producers definitely had something to do with it. They definitely wouldn’t have wanted him to talk to Michelle to save it for the ATFR, so who knows how much Matt actually knew about the nature of his conversation with Michelle

[@Mila-Nova]

The Bachelorette is really carrying this franchise

[@greghindoian4089]

Lol what about Bachelor in paradise?

[@thagrandpubah]

Most feminist hate men and most modern western women are feminists.

[@Mila-Nova]

@@thagrandpubah not really. The Bachelor just sucks. They always choose dry candidates and fresh out of college girls. Can't say the same for the Bachelorette the only exception is Claire's season which sucked terribly

[@moregardening5014]

@@thagrandpubah Feminists don’t hate men. That idea is perpetuated by people who are shocked that women have the audacity to demand equality. You must hate men if you want to be equals, clearly... 🙄

[@jadedeleon_]

@@thagrandpubah sad you don’t know the true significance of feminism. Misogynists have always tried to normalized that the meaning of feminism is an anti male movement. Yet on the contrary we have constantly stated that we want equality, yet feminists are never really heard for their issues....THATS why the term came to be, to bring equality among BOTH genders, not bash one for certain stereotypes... Those who claim as feminists express their beliefs by insulting the other gender is no equality activist :). Feminists just want to acquire equality between sexes just like people of color want equality among all people of different backgrounds, how is it so hard to grasp?

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

This is literally a combination of Peter's dramatic ass season and Juan Pablo's emotional constipation

[@carolineg856]

LMAOOOO BYEEEE

[@blueshoes915]

LOL...YES!

[@a_2502]

I’ve heard so much about them. Kind of makes me want to watch their seasons but I don’t want to be annoyed lol

[@Goat.Cheese]

OMG

[@bonnie.yarbrough]

Emotional Constipation 😂😂😂

[@tahliawaddle2631]

The fact that he couldn’t have a conversation with Michelle honestly speaks volumes of the man he is. Super disappointed, he was definitely not worth the hype he got.

[@nuuhouse]

Yes!!!

[@yaminijohn1988]

Exactly!! The hype he got because of and by Hannah and Tyler. Saying he's perfect for the bachelor. It's an opportunity wasted.

[@patnull]

He used to be my favorite bachelor until after the final rose. The man is a coward. He didn't want to talk to Michelle, didn't want to talk to Bri(I'm assuming that he knew Bri was there), doesn't have the courage to fight through his own Achilles heel to make it work with Rachel, and doesn't have the courage to realize that he can be something other than the example his dad set. What his dad did shouldn't define the possibility of a future heartbreak.

[@gracewait9499]

Thank you...thts how I feel...I really did like him...he is just shit...(sorry to say)

[@bobbysue6725]

Why did Matt say so many times he doesn't want to turn into his abandoning father??? And then he turns out to be EXACTLY like his father!!!

[@jacquelinefrance6694]

Ever since Colton jumped the fence we just have not had a normal season on the bachelor/bachelorette.

[@catmo59]

😂😂😂😂

[@spideysim3892]

It’s funny too cuz Colton is when I started watching haha before that the only season I watched was Ben Higgins.

[@Buffett305]

I think it all started with JuanPablo's season and his f$king attitude, then Arie switching fiancee, then Colton aka fence jumper, and what can I say about Peter (mama's body...)

[@StormyKid27]

I want a season as normal as Ben's again

[@lolololololollol4793]

colton jumping the fence is what started the coronavirus

[@thewadsquad]

I was visually cringing when Emmanuel told Matt & Rachel to embrace for one last time and Matt just sat there... yiiiiiiiiiii.

[@lordreyna6924]

Really? I cringed at her eye roll. I understand why he just sat there. He doesn’t want to.

[@thumperkc]

@@lordreyna6924 I didn’t see the eye roll 😳

[@candelariaw1668]

I don’t blame him, but she wanted to.

[@Leeleem8]

I don't think he knew what the word "embrace" meant. Seemed like he was confused lol

[@spiwemuchemedzi7053]

@@Leeleem8 hahaha....but that would mean Rachael doesn't either but nice one

[@olivergarrick672]

Michelle is a goddamn gem. I hope she able to find someone to make her really happy. I don't get how he could let someone like her go.

[@sam-wt1gq]

im loving your support for michelle in the comments haha. I feel the same - she is wonderful

[@bnew5394]

It’s because he wasn’t ready to settle down! I think Matt knows it too. Michelle is ready and she’s going to be such a great wife and mother one day!

[@candelariaw1668]

But not on tv. Somebody will get heartbroken by her as well.

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

Dude did you copy my comment from another video? That is word for word what I said.

[@shrutik9673]

@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 yeah he's copied a bunch of them

[@jjasmineluv]

Honestly speaking I feel like Matt has some deep rooted family trama, and he can't fully commit to a relationship without the fear of what happend to his father and mother happening to him. They all need to go to a family therapist including his dad, and settle there issues.

[@ooohlaa13]

amen, and lots of other people with identity politics running the show also. It takes humility, compassion and forgiveness, a tall order in our materialistic world of image, branding and competition.

[@KelseyMcSorley]

@@ooohlaa13 Girl PREACH!

[@carolyntran6364]

It is not just deep rooted family trauma. It's his identity as a BLACK man. Just because we saw a snippet of his and his parent's relationships allow us to disregard to his identity. He probably has gone through a lot as a biracial-black man and it is not his responsibility to teach someone about what is an what isn't racist. He probably is tired of it. Stop trying to put this blame on his family trauma.

[@jjasmineluv]

@@carolyntran6364 I definitely agree with you there as well, Personally over the course of the show I definitely sou how much his experience growing up with a 'broken family' really affected him. I feel like both his struggle with his black identity and growing up without his father, both really impacted him. Anyways I truly hope he figures himself out, and I'm so excited for Michelle and Katie to find there husbandos.

[@spiwemuchemedzi7053]

True .....but he is talking it too far. Like the statistics say, there are many people who grew up similar families like Matt and are not as dysfunctional as Matt. Bri is one such person, very level headed and loves life.

[@SanFranFan30]

How about they just fire the entire editing and production staff. They flat out did a bad job story wise, they cut crucial moments an information, in my opinion the problems with this season entirely come down to editing and production decisions, thats it.

[@Smorgasbord.]

Matt's Mom's influence was all it took to change the course of Bachelor history. He was doing so well without the skeptical and bitter reminder of the unsuccessful union his parent's had. Production seemed to get on her bandwagon and as a result, Matt was disillusioned, pessimistic and unwilling to commit. Symbolically and in a small but significant way, he became his Father: distant, insecure, non-committal and absent. This may be the worst season I've ever watched.

[@adrianaallen7537]

Facts!!! They thought he couldn't carry the story so they tried to edit one 😬

[@machodgdon]

I love that with the news of two bachelorette seasons, it’s safe to say that the Bachelor is gonna be on hiatus indefinitely. Hopefully with this hiatus they can vet their contestants better so a debacle like this doesn’t happen again

[@beccag2758]

But I still want Joe to be Bachelor😭

[@estizzababawande5640]

Hopefully they can seriously go to the very foundations of this show and uproot any exploitative, racist and misogynistic producers, executives and others in leadership. Just my hope.

[@highwire33]

Mike Johnson for Bachelor!!!

[@taylor2000TV]

they will hopefully have a diverse cast for both bachelorette seasons and i bet they are looking to wait for the next bachelor to come from that batch of men. for SOME reason they refuse to hire Ivan or Mike Johnson, dont know why

[@Sipu97]

It's probably not on hiatus at all since the second Bachelorette season is filmed during summer like Clare and Tayshia's season, which leaves enough time in the autumn to film the Bachelor. Until we hear otherwise, it's still going on imo.

[@jadejohnson3144]

I took a shot every time producers made Emmanuel say “uncomfortable”

[@cerisebiscuit51]

rip to your liver

[@caitlinshields5356]

did you black out ??? lol

[@ambermayer7851]

I don't think they made him do it, 'uncomfortable' is his brand.

[@-A-L-]

So your ghost typed that?

[@j69confessional]

The “uncomfortable” repeats were totally unnecessary. It felt like a plug-in/promo the whole time! I dunno if he even introduced himself as the writer of his book

[@tposeinify]

Can we please talk about the fact that Matt wasted everyone’s time by claiming the whole time he was ready to get married when he clearly wasn’t even from day one 🤷‍♀️ wtf!

[@michele9159]

AMEN!!!! Matt has serious issues!

[@caloricIntake22]

This!

[@jackielyn4430]

Train wreck🙄

[@ismailyvargas8345]

this season literally makes me not watch the bachelor ever again

[@aprilrae6551]

I'm going to watch again . I think Matt James was a poor choice for the lead. They need to go back to picking Bachelor from the Bachlorette season. This way they know if he charismatic and intelligent. Matt seemed very nervous and unresponsive at times. There were several guys from Clare season that were intelligent and caring like Riley, Ivan, Dr. Joe. Also Mike Jones. Anyone of these guys was better on camera.

[@brandonbreuer6589]

Reality Steve confirmed that this ATFR was 6 hours long so they had to cut a lot of stuff, which, for better or worse ended up being Bri's entire appearance and the talk between Rachael and Michelle and obviously even the conversations we did see were no doubt cut significantly down. Reality Steve also said that he had heard that there was a lot more going on behind Matt and Rachael's breakup than what has been disclosed publicly, but he wouldn't say what it was because it is not confirmed information.

[@DottieMinerva]

Based off his reaction to her at the ATFR, I could see that being the case.

[@ooohlaa13]

But that is not unusual, they film much and edit much and always leave the most dramatic, salient, gossipy and hysterical stuff in. Its reality, but crafted to jerk us around so we keep coming back for the grand finale of histrionics.

[@a_2502]

Yeah I think there’s more to their breakup. We may never know

[@FlyAwaySongbird]

considering this racism stuff came up because a girl who went to high school with rachael revealed that she and other girls who dated black boys had been bullied by rachael and her friends...i suspect that matt knows that rachael's racism went deeper than just ignorantly going to an antebellum ball (several years after it was banned and hosted by a fraternity that believes robert lee is their spiritual founder) and couldn't handle it. he couldn't make eye contact with her and didn't seem to want her to physically touch him + didn't hug her at the end.

[@a_2502]

@@FlyAwaySongbird dang that's why I never understand bullies. Karma will come back and bite you. I knew there was so much more. That extremely long pause he took and barely looking at her, I knew there was something deeper than just the antebellum ball.

[@Jobother]

"come up with some more phrases than 'thanks for sharing'" wooowwwwww she went for the jugular. good for her!

[@MyCrownstar]

She is right. You tell a man you are in love with them and they say "thanks for sharing" , wtf, that's your cue to run...

[@tazzel10]

Emmanuel did the most fantastic job I’ve ever seen on a reality tv show. He was articulate, sincere and asked GREAT thought provoking questions. Get rid of chris Harrison. Acho all the way!

[@vondamiles5470]

I agree he was very professional and a great interview style.

[@bradleycouch8783]

i agree but i also don’t want to see Emmanuel’s brand new spokesman career get tainted with the toxicity of the bachelor franchise. i think he was an amazing host and did so much better than chris harrison, but he hasn’t even been with FS1 for a year yet and i’d just rly hate to see this franchise ruin that

[@tazzel10]

@@bradleycouch8783 valid point

[@meglaurelmiles]

This!! Some real important conversations so well handled

[@Hetsupshut3]

SAME! I LOVED HIM INTERVIEWINGGGGGG OMG

[@cerisebiscuit51]

Emmanuel Acho’s suit jacket looked like it was painted on and I honestly can’t complain. Sir, I am looking respectfully 👀

[@chrishulse3381]

Way more charming than Matt and Chris Harrison put together

[@katy4523]

Just add that to my bisexual panic watching this franchise 😂😂😂

[@cerisebiscuit51]

@@katy4523 lol same

[@innerbabe4089]

I jokingly told my husband that they must have ordered the suit to fit Chris Harrison accidentally 😂

[@catmo59]

Looked like a stuffed potato

[@olivergarrick672]

I'm so glad Michelle is get a happy ending because it's eff matt.

[@DarthFurie]

@@treyking1432 it's not about race. Michelle is an amazing woman, period. You're weirdly fixated on a detail that has nothing to do with what would make her a great wife which is her disposition and character

[@emilyc5625]

Matt seemed absolutely disgusted by Rachel . Like zero sympathy, zero love left , just straight ice cold . Pushed her hand away and couldn’t even look at her ... damn

[@mawuliattipoe6747]

I’d be the same

[@tylerxmikaela]

Righttttt

[@hotgramma2513]

Does he really know what “love” is?!

[@caltheodore4201]

I do t think he is, I think he's just disappointed. Give him time and stop hating.

[@reclaimedandrested]

And?!

[@olivergarrick672]

Matt need therapy and professional help him and his mom because he had alot of emotional baggage and alot of trauma he went through growing up that need professional help before getting in a relationship with someone.

[@NT-bz5nh]

Agree. I don’t think his mom is the villain here but I also know what it’s like to be married to a man who brought his parents baggage into the marriage. Confront these problems before you’re looking for your life partner.

[@treyking1432]

How many times you people gonna keep saying that??? Lol

[@ooohlaa13]

@@treyking1432 probably until he owns it and admits he is psychologically unaware and immature, and keeps blaming his dad who probably has changed light years by now, but Matt likes to be victim in his head and keeps it alive.

[@blueshoes915]

Agreed. He seemed to unpack a lot on the show and I hope he follows that path with professional therapy. I think he’s a good guy, it’s hard to unpack some things alone.

[@taylorgayhart9497]

I think it’s a little out of bounds to say someone needs therapy. I believe all humans do, but singling someone put like that isn’t okay, and people weren’t saying that about Pete or Colton. Also, Matt may not see your post, but people in the same boat will, and it may affect them. I too was abandoned by my father, and it hurt, but I was not incapable of falling in love, getting married, and having a happy relationship. Matt and Rachael could have stayed together had she just not gone to that party, we have no way of knowing.

[@chrisspiers6310]

Michelle to Matt:” I hope you move on with kissing with your eyes closed, and I hope you come up with more phrases than ‘thanks for sharing’”! And, that ladies and gentlemen, was one hell of a curveball!!! 👏🏼👏🏼

[@MOVIEHORIZON]

One thing we've learned... when Matt dumps you, forget about all the good times... you're TOTALLY GONE almost instantaneously....

[@ooohlaa13]

actually you never were really "in" ... he doesn't know how yet.

[@ashleyrackliff9089]

That is certainly how it seems!!!

[@maryharvey7053]

I know...pretty sad

[@nicolarose2444]

... incorrect

[@spearmint4093]

its like that with many men.. actually quite all ive met . i hate it

[@olivergarrick672]

Michelle jokes at the end were really hard hitting truths 😌.

[@vondamiles5470]

That is the BEST part.

[@adoredbyd]

I was here for her subtle shade

[@alyssacolt83]

She did a mic drop :)

[@Joselle_b26]

I really appreciate how you went about this video Chris. A lot of times, some allies will try and talk about these issues (which we appreciate) but they don’t go about it the right way. Thank you for letting each of them speak and tell their own stories in this recap and not talking over them.

[@amandatidey5751]

I miss the Barb in a box on the AFR! Patty is like her opposite personality..never gonna hear Patty tell Matt to "bring her hoooome, bring her to us!" Patty is like "eh, love isn't everything..take it or leave it"

[@meowpower08]

Imagine if there was a barb cam and no one said anything about it i would die lmao

[@melodyclark1944]

They both get too involved in their sons love lives

[@Varaidzo1]

@@meowpower08 😂😂😂😂

[@Goldenfantasy91]

“Love isn’t the end all be all”

[@meadowlove822]

Matt was a disappointing bachelor because he wasn’t the right type of person for this show. I agree that there is absolutely no onus on him to stay in a relationship with Rachel, but want to acknowledge that he didn’t want a marriage with anyone. He needs help and support and I hope he gets it, but you’ve got to be whole and confident to do something like the show. No one should be forced to get engaged, but coming into the show to end up with a girlfriend after 3 months isn’t special and defeats the premise of the show. At that point, there’s no reason for The Bachelor

[@alexandrav7739]

Can I ask a question about that? In Germany (where I'm from) the Bachelor(better) NEVER ends with an engagement, just with the commitment to be a couple. The show is still beloved and fun to watch. Why is it so important in the US that the engagement happens? Honestly curious :)

[@christianlarson2933]

Also it didn't help that he's gay

[@Nina-hx6jb]

@@alexandrav7739 I would also like to know this! Matt's season was the first time I've ever watched watched anything from the bachelor franchise. I know the premise of the show is to get engaged at the end, but why is that so important?

[@Hello_and_no]

@@alexandrav7739 well in my opinion the show used to have leads and lots of contestants who 100% wanted true love and marriage. The efforts to find true love seemed more genuine even though it's always been just a tv show. Now its basically a dating show filled with people who seem to prioritize social media exposure, or want a career that can benefit from what the show brings, over anything else. It just feels cheaper. I cant even remember the last bachelor choice that really seemed ready.. nomatter what lines they spewed into the camera.

[@Gooner5]

@@Hello_and_no what do you think of rachel's season?

[@dumbblonde95]

Bachelorette >> Bachelor anyways -- guy drama is funnier to watch and there's a much higher chance of a relationship actually working out

[@MOVIEHORIZON]

That's the thing with Matt... there's NEVER "closure" with anyone...not with his Dad... not with any of the contestants...

[@sandramoore1391]

I get so annoyed every time Matt based his relationship on his parents broken marriage. Matt knew all along that he wasn’t ready for none of these girls. He did Michelle wrong and then he refused to talk to her. In my opinion he played all these girls. Telling them he love them and then break their hearts

[@jareya]

How many of the ladies did he tell that he loved them?

[@adrianaallen7537]

@@jareya literally only Rachel. People just want to hate him.

[@nadineeliza-beth1767]

@@adrianaallen7537 Did these people even watch the show, since when did he tell all the women he loved them only heard him say it to rachel. And did they even watch this clip, where Michelle was mocking him about him saying thanks for sharing instead of i love you back. People just want to hate.

[@suejones5911]

@@nadineeliza-beth1767 k moo

[@nadineeliza-beth1767]

@@suejones5911 k poo

[@xanderloosvelt6951]

Why couldn’t they just make AFR a two hour special on a Tuesday so we could see everything there was. This was too important of an event I feel to cut things out of the show.

[@graceh9227]

Yeah that would’ve been great!

[@katattacksweetheart]

Strange how, for a show all about love, the theme of this season is best encapsulated by what Matt's mom said: "People fall in and out of love, and love is not the end all be all". Unexpectedly real.

[@ooohlaa13]

Couple love becomes a commitment, not a "feeling". Matt would have been gone sooner or later anyway he is too immature for commitment at this point. Would rather point fingers than do his own work that he is insisting she do. He is wearing race like a badge, which is not uncommon these days. It might take decades to lay down the sword of retaliation.

[@jannahyoung9358]

I don’t know if I fully agreed with her there. I’ve been married for years now, and yeah, the infatuation feeling isn’t always there, but love, a commitment, can be with hard work.

[@ooohlaa13]

@@jannahyoung9358 Ya, I felt that was one of the rare moments of truth in the whole series. You go in and out of "feeling" loved and loving, so you better be prepared for the times it doesn't feel good so you can hang in there. It's no day in the park long term, that's why the sickness/health, richer/poorer stuff in the vows. He was into happily ever after with no work, if it hurts I am leaving scenario, as we saw.

[@NT-bz5nh]

Ask any married couple. You fall in and out of love. I can attest to that but you don’t give up on your marriage.

[@emilyc5625]

Well for her love didn’t work but she is totally right . But for someone who stayed married to their first love forever might have a different point of view . The point is you just never know with love . One minute you have a soul mate and the next day they could change their mind about you and blind side you

[@NataliaWahl]

I think that Matt did the show for clout. It’s obvious he’s never been ready to be in a serious relationship, much less an engagement. I feel that his dad walking out of his life has affected him a great amount and I think he’d greatly benefit from therapy. I wish Matt well. 🤗

[@DottieMinerva]

As well as his moms feelings about love.

[@lj-hd2sg]

Matt is confused

[@emilycrook6087]

He was probably pressured to apply by Hannah B and Tyler C

[@NataliaWahl]

@@emilycrook6087 Yeah, good point.

[@olivergarrick672]

So disappointed Michelle did actually love matt and he strung and break up with her leave her alone matt is a jerk he didn't give her any explanation or closure of why he break up with her🤦🏽‍♂️.

[@nuuhouse]

He really wants a white woman !!! He doesn’t like his black side

[@arroyosonja]

Honestly it’s better this way. He is such a wimp and likes to play the victim anytime he can. She deserves much better!

[@Smorgasbord.]

@@nuuhouse ?? He really wants a black woman because she's able to understand what it's like being black. That was the one thing he took issue with when he and Rachel spoke about her picture. She doesn't understand what it's like to be like him in this specific way and that was too much of a barrier for him to handle.

[@aprilrae6551]

@@Smorgasbord. But I think he only dates white woman. I think he identifies with his White side. This will always be problematic for him because he looks like a Black man.

[@Smorgasbord.]

@@aprilrae6551 Where did you hear he only dates white women? Michelle isn't white and Rachel is half hispanic.

[@redbarnhomestead7384]

Bachelor franchise SHOULD BE offering a whole year of therapy to the lead and the top 5 contestants. Both Matt and Racheal LOOK like they are suffering deeply.

[@MphoSekoli]

Absolutely!

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

what abotu the silva passed form over 20 peopel to each other, they now have mutated aprasites in each other ..and now they go out to us like minions to mutate more, check out what siliva has it in, you be grossed otu to see him kiss so many women as I was ! @ughh yuck and puke parasites one to anotherover and over cringed every tiem I saw it every time!..

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

They should make people do it for a year BEFORE they come on the show

[@jadejohnson3144]

Emmanuel did a great job moderating these tough conversations. I’m glad they brought him in.

[@samkelisiwemngomezulu4874]

Yes he held it down for sho!

[@pigpjs]

I didn't know him before this and he did an incredible job. Going to check out Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man. I also really liked how he distinguished and made a concerted effort with the language used. Language is incredibly powerful.

[@maryharvey7053]

not really..he was ok

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

uhmm he siad why cant you forgive her for soemthign that happen 2 years aog not being smart enough to knwo it is a mentality..who not smart enought ot knw this great Matt was

[@thonyvides]

No he's not! Please if you don't mind me asking, are you Black? Emmanuel is not even close to good at handling that conversation or trying to held Rachael accountable for her actions. I can't allign with his politics, sorry. If you want "REAL" of handling that conversation then I suggest you should listen to channel "For Hariet" Kimberly Nicole Foster.

[@xkathleenle]

Matt seems disgusted by Rachael. She kept crying, reaching for him, but he didn’t want anything to do with her. He was completely closed off from her.

[@Blendingwithlolo]

I feel like theres more to the story

[@DreamEatingBaku]

I can't imagine how their break up convo went. Matt straight up defended hannah brown saying the n word, so for him to feel like this towards rachael is very telling

[@caltheodore4201]

@@Blendingwithlolo agreed

[@rachelsewell7026]

@@Blendingwithlolo There better be more to the story because otherwise she dodged a bullet. Could you imagine if someone does something in ignorance, apologizes for it, and you were just so disgusted with them you can’t look at them? They would never make it through a marriage.

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

he grwew up in the south and yeah he knew her lineage was inher nothign he could do but he shoudl check hisself to find out why he did not pick up that spirit..

[@ana.medina]

with the way matt was acting with her (pushing away her hand, no hug or eye contact) i feel like more happened behind the scenes that what we know... like how matt said he had to explain to her why the photos were bad and the history behind it, but i also think he’s just (rightfully) hurt

[@surebrah]

His dad hurt him, not party photos.

[@dtrulyblessed3774]

Exactly my thoughts

[@chanw5797]

@@surebrah wow wow wow...congrats on this comment, you're really an amazing person.

[@VMohdude-]

@@surebrah it wasn’t just party photos, it was liking pictures of confederate flags and qanon conservatives,

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

And his mother and brother were like hell no she didn'yt that racist glue braods gotta go..shut it down nothign to talk abotu and I agree with them

[@natalielove6820]

I think Matt really was just not ready to be the Bachelor. If marrying someone who understands what his experience was as a Black man is something that is important to him, he has to know that Rachael would never fulfill that. What she did was wrong, but for Matt to expect her to know the Black experience is just not realistic. In my mind, he should have either chosen to stay with her and educate her, or gone with Michelle, who already shares that experience with him. How Matt dealt with the women this season just shows a lot of immaturity on his part.

[@Blueeyesinthesky]

You know you make a good point. Being with a white woman she will never fully understand what it’s like, even if she tries her hardest to. I understand why he’s so upset, like I get it. But I mean if you love someone unconditionally, wouldn’t you try at least a little bit to understand or make amends at least? His perception of love is skewed, so it makes me question if he even loved her fully.

[@DottieMinerva]

Right. I’m confused why he ever thought she would understand that.

[@samukelephiri6310]

For sure going forward these are the types of conversations he should be having with the women he dates/ hopes to marry. That’s why as his mum said “love isn’t the end all be all”. There’s so much more to a relationship than just how you feel.

[@katattacksweetheart]

Yeah I think that there's a strong contrast between him and Tayshia. He says it himself, the pictures forced him to confront a reality that he'd been avoiding-that Rachael was raised ignorant of things that affect his daily life as a black man. In Tayshia's season she talked about that a lot, but Matt didn't, and it came back to bite him.

[@christianlarson2933]

Also, he's gay.

[@olivergarrick672]

I'm not surprised that they didn't airing the confrontation of the footage between Michelle and Rachel this is the same franchise who pity other woman against each other for rating.

[@lordreyna6924]

I hope someone leaks the entire thing! We deserved the entire thing.

[@roriestannard9467]

Wait what? What happened?

[@hannahmusicfan21]

I haven’t been this early since Barbara’s crying scene first aired 😂

[@janeryan2709]

dON't LeT hER gO

[@misskayleebugs]

bRiNG hEr HoMe tO uS

[@olivergarrick672]

Iam so happy for Katie and Michelle are the more deserving women than those two they weren't mean to anyone they going to be amazing bachelorette.

[@dand9106]

Be careful what you wish for

[@caltheodore4201]

@@dand9106 I was saying 😂, it may be worse

[@DottieMinerva]

I loved Emmanuel! He made so many amazing points. Also thrilled to have separate seasons of Katie and Michelle both. They’re different and awesome in their own ways.

[@veraweng9908]

I was just going to type this! I thought Emmanuel Acho (I'm going to treat him like Chris Harrison so first name last name let's goooo) has quite the gift for articulating his thoughts and guiding conversations. I hope we can see him more whether Chris Harrison comes back or not)

[@DottieMinerva]

@@veraweng9908 me too! I would love to see more of him.

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

nah he said could Matt move and and say it was something that happne 2 years ago not intelligent thing to say

[@DottieMinerva]

@@tjlivejaxkson231 I can’t decipher what you are saying

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

@@DottieMinerva of course not....

[@hazyMAGPIE]

Matt is so unlikeable to me. I really tried to like him but he just seems kinda robotic? And l am really trying to understand the pressure he is under and his statements that his situation different from other bachelors... But like, he chose to be the bachelor. It was not a situation where he would be chosen and then later, the social issues in 2020 would become even more pressing (not that this was not an issue before, but lets be honest, the Bachelor was kind of reacting to the BLM movements and protests after GF). So he did not really "fall" into it. He agreed to be the first black bachelor. He took up the challenge knowingly... So yeah, I mean I get that it was difficult but it still does not change the fact that he was clearly not ready for this... It kinda makes me think he did it for the IG followers. Which I would be fine with if at least the season was not soooo cringeyyyy and hard to watch...

[@amypatterson7395]

I couldn't get over how every conversation he had with the women felt like a middle-management boss trying to interview them for a job opening. Or like he was trying to defuse an employee conflict between them.

[@willsenay]

Wish they would’ve shown the conversation between Rachel and Michelle. That could’ve been a great help to the conversation going on in the world, being able to show healing rather than focusing entirely on the pain

[@PaigeSharrow]

With Michelle, Matt was super engaged; nodding, looking at her, and even smiling when she made fun of him. With Rachael, he was so absent. It's just interesting to see how he turned off all emotions when he had to talk to the woman he picked.

[@kasia3737]

Thanks for getting us through this season Bachelor Fantake 🌹🌹🌹

[@sarainglis5886]

Great work keeping us all alive during this disappointing season! You're the best, Fantake! *throws a dozen roses at Fantake's feet*

[@Richard-lh3te]

Emmanuel and Michelle looked great together at the end 👀

[@brooklynooklyn]

Plot twist: He goes on her season 😂

[@vasssie]

Was shipping that

[@andreaarellano2174]

@@brooklynooklyn I definitely felt a vibe between them lol

[@melodyclark1944]

Does anyone remember when The Bachelor literally went to a plantation for Nick Viall and Sean Lowe? The show has never apologized for doing that, has it?

[@surebrah]

I do think that an apology would have a huge impact on the lives of black folks.

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

yeah the producers are A wipes

[@DM-jn3zo]

Rachel probably thought it was fine because they do it in Vampire Diaries all the time

[@Vicky-pi2ly]

lol

[@miraann3997]

lmfaooo

[@Nehasupnfan]

Okay honestly I thought the same

[@Patricia-dp3ch]

The vampire diaries in no way defended the confederacy. This comment is plain stupid. I guess incorporating history now is racist, even when you are actively taking the side of the Yankees.

[@DM-jn3zo]

@@Patricia-dp3ch no one said they defended it. they mostly never mention it. they had antebellum style balls every week tho

[@Leratopink12]

This season was such a trqin wreck. I do not watch the episodes i just watch the recaps and spoilers at this point.

[@jamesdeanharrelson9743]

Yeah it’s fuckin trash I usually watch it just to make fun of it but this season was boring as hell

[@kellysharon6625]

@@jamesdeanharrelson9743 Agree. Can we move on from this shit show I don't care to hear about this train wreck show anymore. Matt James you got what you wanted.. MONEY and Tyler the other Jerk!!!!

[@mohammedkone5847]

Why cutting Bri out? Man those producers always get under my skin

[@Grace-zd6ic]

I loved the part where Emmanuel said “can you tell us what you’re doing to educate yourself” and Rachel said “no❤️”

[@chrisk6945]

We all know she's not doing anything

[@kendragalvan590]

She said on social media that she is very hesitant to share sources because she doesn’t want it to seem “preformative” or just to save face. I actually think she said the right thing by mentioning it is not just about learning, but putting those things into action. I know lots of people who have learned things about race in current times but fail to actually put those learned things into action. It’s really a shame when that happens.

[@ooohlaa13]

I would like to also suggest that this thing cannot end until black people recognize the mean spirit they go about things, with resentment and retaliation. This public shaming is over the top and they need to also learn compassion and forgiveness for the net we are ALL caught in, because they are constantly calling attention to being black, keeping it alive as an axe to grind. By now we have turned ourselves inside out with programs, apologies, admissions etc. and its time for a new Martin Luther King to come along and introduce a how to forgive tour, not continue the humiliate and shame tour. They ALSO need to "do the work" and no one seems to recognize it.

[@Mzkikibaby4realz]

@@ooohlaa13 .......MLK was murdered. No matter how nice, compassionate, and watered down we've tried to inform people, we have always been met with vitriol. Why do you think people are actually starting to somewhat hear us now.......because now there are actual tangible consequences behind "sHaMe ToUrs." The wild thing is that most of the issues we are vocalizing are by no means new. We've been saying this FOR YEARS! It's because people refused to listen until we changed our tone and ya'll can't stand that.

[@christianlarson2933]

She shouldn't have to do anything. She wore a dress to a party. Fuck the online mob.

[@Pinktish]

I think Emmanuel did a beautiful job hosting, I very much hope that he comes back for more segments and/or AFRs

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

nah told Matt id he coulsd forgive the racism as an act of 2 years ago..he not the crunchiest cookie inthe jar I hope that get someone with brains next time

[@blueshoes915]

Matt seemed to have little respect for Michelle. His words do not meet up with his actions. He has a lot of growing to do. Rachael has a lot of learning and growing to do. She said all the right things and was honest. I hope she is truly committed to learning and growing. I hope everyone is committed to that. We can all do better and grow. No one is perfect. We all need to take accountability and check our egos sometimes. 💕

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

Exactly if he was as caring and strong and fair he he was trying to make he was He would have had to let her have those 2 minutes hse wanted as he would have cared she was haert broken..that not giving it to her was now you doen I used for show I can move on and I fell ..well a little guilty but, not that much so bye gorl..it was showing who he really was

[@anjalidevarapalli9681]

I LOVED EMMANUEL ACHO!! He asked all the right questions that Chris, a white man, wouldn’t have been able to ask

[@carolineg856]

true.. he (probably) understood what it felt like to get racist comments. He knew what questions to ask that would dive deep in

[@jessicajohnson3044]

I really like how Emmanuel handled the entire thing. Granted there wasn’t any bullshit, but he seems like a no bullshit dude who would call you out in your shit. I like that

[@rubiirae]

They did Emmanuel dirty with that suit...my goodness it was going to burst at any second LOL still don't think Matt genuinely loved Rachael, he picked her because of her looks and so not a surprise that he left her alone in the cold when sh!t hits the fan. Don't forget he dumped her over the phone.

[@catmo59]

Just one fart away from the entire suit exploding

[@ooohlaa13]

what makes you think he didn't hand pick that himself as part of his macho branding? that's a known crafted and deliberate "style" you know.

[@NickSchulze75]

Was anyone else wishing "two bachelorettes" meant one shared season with the two girls narrowing down 50+ guys down to 2? It would be a shitshow, but I was there for it.

[@ooohlaa13]

at least it would have been unified instead of the whites and the blacks each having their own show ... geez that made me sick.

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

yes the misersy would be shortedned

[@gel3612]

maybe this is just my opinion but Matt would of never picked Michelle or anyone that wasn’t white, that first comment he made in the beginning of the season about being nervous about what the world would think/ representing the black community just proved he knew he liked white girls and being the first black bachelor he didn’t want backlash for picking a white girl, well Matt... you got what you wanted😂🤷🏻‍♀️

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

yep and the truth of the matter is people and Matt ) now) have a hard tiem accepting this..so Michell doged a bullet that never was..hope she finds over whelming happiness and Matt well he got his foot shoe and pants in mouth, he be fine though, hemuch morew selfish than he tried to mnake he was, it was obvious when person loved you and you cant give them 2 mins becasue they were hurting ..boy bye

[@leojay60]

But his mom is Caucasian. His father married & had children with a Caucasian woman. So why is he demonized for it when it's part of his background?

[@f0repl4y]

@@leojay60 Cancel culture. Black men are demonized for picking white women to love.

[@leojay60]

@@f0repl4y There's a lot to unpack on that one. It was once illegal, remember? That's actually part of why a marriage license was incorporated in the first place, so that a couple who composed of a "free" & "slave" status could be together in a way that was recognized. Other than that it was a common law marriage for free & slave couples. Then in places like Missouri interracial couples were banned from certain neighborhoods under private covenants and had to go court to contest such arrangements in the 1970-80's..then there's the real dark side to this. There were many an occasion where black men were falsely accused of assaulting white women and were often lynched on this basis. Emmitt Till was a 15 year old Chicago kid who had been used to some form in integration back home in school. However in Money, Mississippi he made a fatal error of saying "hi" to an older white woman named "Karen" Bryant (yes, she was the original "Karen"). She was so outraged by the "audacity " of a black male even looking at her, much less speaking that she arranged for her husband & brother in law to murder him in cold blood. Emmitt's mother had an open casket funeral to display the horror of real racism in the U.S. and give society a gut check. Yes, some things have obviously changed, but some things have obviously not. So understand that when it comes to interracial relationships, there's a lot of societal baggage loaded in the subject on both sides of the aisle. This is why Matt & Rachel would probably not have worked out anyway even if he did choose her in the end. This doesn't damn everyone else, but they didn't have the chops to truly look at their situation and the show conveniently edited out the substantive parts of their conversation and triggered much of the audience. ...quite a mess

[@evolsirhc123]

It was a very weird thing to say before the start of his season. Neither Rachel or Michelle did that because it’s not necessary. It just made things worse

[@RealLegoBeast]

I'm black and would've kept Rachael. Screw this cancel culture and trying to make other people happy. Obviously she is not racist but was simply ignorant. Damn she fine

[@drright2410]

Lets get to the truth of the matter... Matt is a momma's boy. He let mom's failures (love is not be all end all, and feelings fade) as his crux to back away from possibly true feelings he had. He will never move forward if he lets other peoples failures be the measure of the success you haven't even experienced yet.

[@ooohlaa13]

I think its deeper than that. I think the whole family makes the dad a scapegoat and they are the victims, he probably changed greatly from back then but they will never see past the labels they gave him and the past. Get over it.

[@drright2410]

Watched the last episode again and Matt said.. word by word: "The look I can't take out of my brain is that I saw my mom's face when she said that feelings fade and what that meant to me and what it means to my mom.... it's like, that scares me" Parents: Don't ever do this to your kids. DO NOT take your failures and play a guilt trip on them expecting them to fail and follow your failed path!

[@hotgramma2513]

So true! Will his mother approve of anyone who takes away her emotional support? And Matt was immediately swayed by Neil Lane’s favorite ring! Did he ever consider what Rachel would like? Or just another man’s preference? Messed-up!

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

we all all of su will have failues it not mama's failures, and who to say she failed? wow okay

[@drright2410]

@@tjlivejaxkson231 Who to say she failed? Did you even watch the series? Matt has repeatedly stated the heartache and failures of his parents and what he doesnt want to repeat. He can't walk or run because his mom still has him in diapers.

[@alicias4]

i would be fine w just bachelorette and bip seasons from now on bc the bachelor is literally becoming a waste of time

[@EthioBelle]

Actually ugh

[@indigocarra2762]

But then how would they get enough women for bachelor in paradise?

[@alicias4]

@@indigocarra2762 that’s a good point 😂

[@JuLayLeeBee]

I’m so excited for our Bachelorettes 😭

[@teralashun8656]

Emmanuel did a good job hosting. Matt needs deep therapy. Matt couldn't give Michelle two minutes to explain, it doesn't take rocket science to figure out she was hurt. Before that he made out with Bri, Serena P, Chelsea and the grad student that he dropped and she snatched her hand away... knowing that he did not see himself involved in a relationship with. He is more like his dad than he actually is willing to admit.

[@seasonschange8320]

Yes 100% he is more like his dad than he thinks!!!

[@treyking1432]

All of those women need Deep therapy, including you.

[@teralashun8656]

@@treyking1432 who said I'm not in therapy. 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆

[@adoredbyd]

Absolutely, I hope his therapist helps him see this.

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

nah asked Matt can he move on she did a thing 2 years ago..That guy is stupid ..would not trust him..not smart eneough to knwo it was more than an act..most smart peole picked this up, glad at least Matt and his brother and mother did as well...

[@kkelseym]

I forgot Matt was the first black Bachelor with all the drama and madness of this season. I just feel like this season was pretty disappointing for what it meant.

[@johnbishop7572]

Emmanuel was a bit awkward at times (understandably so), but man he's got great charisma. Kinda wished they would've picked him as the bachelorette host but he's a busy guy so makes sense

[@brooklynooklyn]

There was no live audience and therefore no energy to roll with and fill the silences. I noticed it when I was watching, and I definitely prefer an audience ! And I wonder if he would have done better with one there.

[@hindwidad2723]

I wasn't sure about him but I actually like him

[@leojay60]

Dude, a muppet would be a better choice than Chris Harrison, who wouldn't even have the tools to deal with all the issues drummed up at that AFR episode. Emmanuel I think did what he could and it was a salvage mission.

[@bonnie.yarbrough]

I really wish they would show us the sit down between Michelle and Rachel..

[@DaveNealComedian]

congrats on another wild season. just when we didnt think it could get stranger than 2020, 2021 was like 'hold my shamrock shake'

[@KaitAC]

🤣 hold my shamrock shake, only from Dave Neal. Now I want McDonald's, thanks a lot hahaha. Happy St. Patrick's day from a locked up Ireland 😪

[@NataliaWahl]

Hold my shamrock shake, LOL 😂☘️🥤

[@amyqb117]

Hey Dave!

[@MOVIEHORIZON]

Kudos to Acho for not letting Matt off the hook when he repeatedly tried to ignore answering tough questions... If it was Chris Harrison it would have been seen as bullying...

[@SassySmall1]

I've heard filming lasted several hours, kind of wonder what they cut out and why kept in the long silences from Matt

[@blake7321]

This season had so much potential, but it quickly went downhill.

[@mycodehan]

I didn't understand how you can want to be with a person of no color and really expect them to understand the struggle of the black experience?!? Lol idk

[@bobbyxsoxer]

He never expected her to understand struggles black people go through, he more expected her to not be racially ignorant

[@Mzkikibaby4realz]

Honestly, that's why a big part of me doesn't feel sorry for him. Baby boy made it very clear at the top of the season that he wasn't going to end up with a black woman.

[@aveclasse17]

@@bobbyxsoxer those two go hand in hand

[@frenchieewoo3355]

@@aveclasse17 being white and being racially ignorant do not go hand in hand. There are plenty of white college age people who are socially conscious.

[@liveyourlife5397]

I honestly think he was not that interested and he took it as his escape way !!! Such a coward !!!

[@milesmorales6148]

It's 2021 and we still have people that are defending Rachel by either downplaying what she did or denying that she did anything wrong and it's PATHETIC. Stop telling POC what's offensive and what's not and telling them how to feel about those things. TF is wrong with y'all?

[@SherryEllesson]

Will somebody please refer Emmanuel to a good tailor who isn't skimpy with fabric? He looks as though he wouldn't be able to take a deep breath or move his arms forward without bursting out of his suit at the seams.

[@valeriag9443]

I admire that Matt always thinks before he speaks even if it is a very long time. Matt looks entirely broken and used, if I ever cross paths with a bachelor producer they better run

[@prettyme3150]

Valid point

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

wel take the crap some wher else he should it Michelle that hsould web broken, but yet still she rise...yeah all good !@

[@valeriag9443]

@@tjlivejaxkson231 lmao what?? Learn how to write proper sentences and then come back. K?

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

@@valeriag9443 K ? you to lazy to spell out Okay ..get some energy to write full words then come back O K A Y Damn

[@valeriag9443]

@@tjlivejaxkson231 wel sory I hsould hav soeled “okay”

[@sanskritideva5342]

I never thought I would say this but I miss when we thought Peter’s season was the worst that could happen.

[@KatieHolmesFitness]

I’ve been so excited for this! Thank you so much for covering a really tough season. I’m so grateful for Bachelor Fantake!!! 🌹

[@SarahBloom]

I really wish we could have seen that conversation between Michelle and Rachel. Michelle handles herself so well, and like Emanuel said, that could have been a very influential moment for viewers to impact some real change.

[@lightaserin]

I feel for Racheal. She looked really sad. Something else must have happened for Matt to be so upset. Maybe she denied the rumors or asked why it was a big deal? Idk.

[@vondamiles5470]

I think so too....definitely agree there is more that happened.

[@andreamolinar6883]

I mean he does mention that he had to explain to her why what was in those photos was wrong so I’m sure he was upset that she couldn’t see why.

[@lightaserin]

@@andreamolinar6883 yeah okay. I couldn’t remember what exactly I had heard. Nobody else is talking about that though.

[@mikaylalange3228]

@@andreamolinar6883 the way I interpreted Matt’s comment was why he had to explain something she did wrong mattered now. I think she understood the gravity of the situation and why it was wrong, I think she was confused on why they couldn’t work through that. That was my view on his comment.

[@ooohlaa13]

Maybe she recognized that he is only playing the blame game, all his life his dad, now her. Very slick.

[@nadinesamara6261]

i dont watch bachelor i only watch ur videos and enfoy them soo much! thank u for the updates

[@nelliebelle4851]

The silver lining in this season is that the finale highlighted that people can have interracial relationships, marriages and children and STILL be racist. I am black and have seen it before in the form of racial slurs, ignoring introduction and immersion into the minority culture, and offense when the minority family does not accept you (most often because the family knows in advance that significant other is racist). It's doubly sad because there are many relationships that are not, but unfortunately interracial companionships are often sought out for another purpose other than finding love.

[@misskayleebugs]

Watching Rachel and Matt together was a knife to the heart man... you could tell there was so much pain between the both of them and there was still so much love there no matter what side you’re on whether it’s the cancel Rachel train or the forgive through proved change train. That’s the hardest part is when you love someone but they may not be the best person for you. Hopefully if it’s not with each other both of them will be able to move on and be in their own happy lives. I still think if they are able to get through this it would show that people can change and be forgiven for their past actions. I’ve always been more for educating people rather than canceling them because Rachel truly does seem like a good hearted person.

[@Caerise]

Worst season of the bachelor/bachelorette I've seen so far. Too much bullying and a lack of romance. The producers really need to cast the contestants better. Also it was pretty clear very early on that Matt only had eyes for Rachael, and I feel a lot of the other women were strung along unfairly which was uncomfortable to watch. But even that relationship went to shambles, and now Matt almost looks at her with disgust and hate in his eyes. This entire season has just been depressing from beginning to end smh. On a positive note tho, I really loved Emmanuel as a host and hope to see him return. He's a very engaging interviewer

[@tulip5210]

I don't think it was the contestants fault as much as the way they put the footage together, I mean yes partially them, but there was probably romance there just not shown.

[@Caerise]

@@tulip5210 What I meant to say was that I think casting so many immature catty women got in the way of the romance, not that they didn't try to find romance, bc I'm sure they did. And I also doubt Matt was ever really ready for a serious relationship, which also got in the way of the romance. It seemed a little too easy for him to end things with all the women, even final 3, so it's hard to believe he ever had a strong connection with them.

[@gigachadyuumi]

they need new producers period

[@rahealabey3553]

Matt broke up with Rachel because of the public embarrassment and damage to his brand. If he found out in private he probably would have stayed with her.

[@tjlivejaxkson231]

ughh Lawd I hope not he be sicker than most think!

[@MOVIEHORIZON]

I'm kinda glad Rachael avoided "listing" the "work" she's done so far... People would have still found a way to pick each thing apart as insufficient or inconsequential...

[@bacligboomin-3538]

The disrespect to Matt from so many people is appalling... no one was probably more hurt from Rachel’s past than Matt. Think about it, this was who he saw spending the rest of his life with, and finding out that your s/o did something like that, probably hurts more than anything, add to that being the target of the insensitive actions. It was never Matt’s job to stay with her and educate her, no matter how much he loved her. For people to assume he’s a fboy and just wanted an easy out is so disrespectful, and honestly makes me question if people actually care about the whole race conversation or not.

[@Blueeyesinthesky]

I get why he’s so upset by it, I think if the magnitude and mass opinion weren’t a apart of the whole thing he probably wouldn’t have taken it AS hard because obviously her intention was never even close to being hateful. But the fact that her mistakes have tied to his reputation and how everyone looks at his season for his whole life? Yeah that’s huge, he’s basically gonna be known as the first black bachelor who fell for a woman with a racially ignorant past. When his intention was completely opposite. The entire thing is complicated because she didn’t mean to hurt him but because of the mass opinion and her racial ignorance in the past, its just too much. And then his mom saying love isn’t everything, he still is mourning his love for Rachel ofc, but love isn’t everything right? Not enough to fix this or reconcile. Just sad over all

[@Abigailbooks]

I completely agree. I think the fact that her actions weren’t intended to hurt people actually makes it hurt even more. It would be one thing if she went to that party, knew what it meant, didn’t care, and it was coming from a place of racism rather than racial ignorance because then Matt could at least be angry with her. Yet, she’s saying she didn’t think, she didn’t know. So Matt is still hurt, but how is he supposed to be angry with that? It’s kind of like kicking a man when he’s down. I can’t even imagine the nightmare that Matt is in. He’s emotionally closed off from his past traumas, found a woman he thought he could finally start to open up to, just to find out that she’s not racist, but she has taken part in racially insensitive actions, which almost makes the line blurrier between how he’s “supposed to” feel. My heart hurts for Rachael too. She says she didn’t stop to think and realize what she was doing was wrong, and now that has led to her losing who she says was the love of her life. Obviously, not knowing doesn’t make it OK, and you can’t fault Matt for walking away because there are some hurts that need a lot more than and “I’m sorry” to heal. But I also agree with Michelle: I don’t think Rachael is a to the core horrible person. Rachael needs to educate herself, Matt needs to keep working through his traumas, and it’s sad there are a lot of people who aren’t giving either of them the chance to do so.

[@alicetinelong4023]

Most of these people doesn't care about the "race conversation" at all. All they see is a white lady shedding tears (a damsel in distress) and they want to blame Matt for all of her bad behavior. Matt was right; she will have to educate herself about black people and every other race that is not white. Black people are not responsible for white people not knowing the history of America. Their parents and educators should have taught them.

[@alicetinelong4023]

@@Blueeyesinthesky I don't know if Rachel meant to hurt Matt or not but I do one thing; these are the consequences that you have to reap for being ignorant and for not knowing the history of America.

[@lananya3]

All of the issues here, not feeling understood, not feeling heard, not having shared experience, feeling hurt by a partner’s actions etc. are all challenges you will encounter in all relationships! I am glad they figured out this could not get past this sooner rather than later.

[@ploys.2031]

Emmanuel is looking at Michelle like he's gonna catch some feelings

[@argerinejordan4703]

They would make a nice couple😊😎

[@kms5793]

Also, it is not matt's job to teach her those things. she didnt realize there was a problem with those photos until they came out which means she didnt see what was wrong with them while she was filming which looks so bad on her part.

[@allisonhowlett8342]

i’ve been waiting for this one... turn it up !!

[@nathanielosterberg5947]

Says he doesn't believe in cancel culture, immediately cancels Rachel and Chris Harrison. LMAO

[@Bcdf-ei9el]

I wish Matt had not broken up with Rachel! She was not racist and never had any malicious intent! She was just ignorant and was willing to learn!

[@mmgpa2580]

I love Michelle’s green earrings! They make her eyes pop soooo much

[@rebeccar628]

Agree! She has a beautiful eye shape as well.

[@princessshay77420]

Well, he would have known how she felt if he had given her 2 minutes 🙄

[@annahrynevych9733]

Matt has some serious issues when it's about sharing his real thoughts and emotions. I mean I understand if he wasn't ready for marriage,but wtf he blamed some other girls for not being ready for engagement?! And I honestly feel like he really used the opportunity to break up with Rachel. Like if you love someone,if you feel like she/he is the one, you would do anything to find the way to forgive and support. He never loved her. He was just trying to save his own face and name. He is a BIG NO!!!

[@GK-bw4jx]

"Love of your life"....sniffing without crying....🤣😂🤣🤣 girl please 🥱🤚

[@emilytrace3670]

I've never cried just from a long moment of silence on this show before, but it was so clear Matt didn't even know where to begin in telling Rachael the scope of his hurt. And it's not a condemnation of who she was three years ago--it's that here and now, though I fully appreciate her apology, she still doesn't understand why he was so hurt. You could see that the connection had just snapped on his end. It proved his mom right--love isn't everything, not when there's a fundamental disconnect in empathy, trust, and experience.

[@babyaik0]

Yes, I agree well said !

[@jareya]

So well said