BACK IN STOCK! - WestCreek RACER offset SG - $219 Reverse Offset with a few issues.

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[@asharpbflat7179]

From first glance i can't help but notice how this came together: ESP LTD production did a mistake on one Viper in their factory. This is a Viper! Upside down (a leftie with controls for right handed). I've always loved the Viper 🤩 One of the very few metal guitars i really considered buying. Topsy turvy they're nice too 😋

[@rainbowslushy223]

ive played a esp/ltd baritone viper and i really liked it sounded great too

[@asharpbflat7179]

​@@rainbowslushy223cool! I always wanted it as a baritone if ever. No shape fits a baritone better imo. Maybe one day...

[@johnplayer420]

fr the viper is GOAT, bang for ur buck.

[@haysfordays]

Exactly what I thought about the Viper looks.. And the concept of a budget guitar brand buying a boo-boo run from a major brand is something I never thought of.

[@ianjamieson3985]

Great review Ryan. All the good and not so good points demonstrated in a nice and fun manner. A great jam over the loop too. And a bonus 'live' string breaking! Awesome!

[@HCUSAGUITARS]

That weird reverse offset makes it look really good, like a RD or whatever those are called instead of an SG.

[@Phatzo1000]

25 is PRS scale

[@danikalero6357]

I got this guitar thanks to your video back in early January because man, THIS is how my guitar is supposed to look. The fretwork (looking for low action) and pickups suck but man with some love put in this has become a serious modding project. Got locking tuners on it, a pair of unbranded seymour-like pickups and A LOT of action adjustments + fret work (mine had the fret rocker rock way more than yours). It is now a decent guitar and one of the best looking oddities I have around.

[@danikalero6357]

Oh and hopeless nut, I cut those slots waaay deeper, even sanded down the first fret a little in addition to some. So happy with it right now, thanks Ryan. But beware, interested potential buyers: It will need love, quite a lot of it. As Ryan well says towards the end, a great modding platform. Discouraging to beginners for sure because it's awkward as heck out of the box. Once set up properly... what a rock, hard picking blues, riff machine. Never expect Ibanez fast, don't get fooled by the "Racer" part of its name - it's a different kind of racing, back when cars had less safety measures and were more likely to get you killed but made you feel more alive, probably. Something unstable and funny and just reliable enough to not fail miserably on you. Mod it wisely if you intend to ever hit a stage with it. I'm halfway there.

[@terrysbookandbiblereviews]

That guitar would be great for the band Stryper!

[@jamesonpace726]

I don't need another guitar! I don't need another guitar! I don't need another guitar....

[@robnolletti3603]

Yes you do yes you do yes you do, lol 😂

[@FuzzImp]

Of all the guitars this is def one. I actually dig the whole look. The high nut throwing off intonation is something a lot of people overlook and something I didn’t realize was a factor when I was younger

[@CyberneticArgumentCreator]

Why does a racing stripe ALWAYS make a guitar cool. Without that racing stripe, the guitar is powerless over me. But that little stripe makes me want to buy it for no reason.

[@oldcrackadated]

I bought one like yours & it is as near perfect as I’ve ever seen the quality of neck& fretboard is fantastic & I love the pickups ,I’m having a problem with my hands & it’s helping me recover, the only setup change half round up on bottom of bridge, so good going to order a blue one to have for mods

[@thejolt124]

Super big thank you to the patrons, love the channel

[@donhagerman4868]

Awesome, thanks, thinking of getting the Black one, enjoy your vid! Thanks Don 🙂 👍 🎸👏

[@GaveMeGrace1]

I like the look of the racing stripe-thank you.

[@baluchon2505]

The shape would be more accurately described as a reverse ESP Viper

[@finemeat]

Exactamente

[@tom7073]

Love it! I just ordered the DC LP jr model.. $134 on Black Friday!

[@OakCityGamers]

Super cool! Wish they were available for purchase! That thing looks super cool and fun

[@Wejohnsn]

i got the solid purple. nice frets but small fast neck inotated out of the box very nicely packed looked hard for blemishes couldn't find any. i like this baby, no black finger tips feels good

[@skooks.]

Im so glad i chose this as my first guitar.

[@SpiderStratagemVI]

Ryan, that is a cool looking guitar - think it could use a 60 cycle hum overall? Crazy paint job (leave the racing stripe), little electronics upgrade maybe?? Either way, lovin' 60 cycle hum and the cool reviews!

[@mitchpalmer5116]

That's a cool looking guitar. I have the Westcreek DC LP Jr. Kinda thing. It's KILLER.

[@AndruJorj]

It reminds me of my LTD Viper, but with all the cool mojo of being yellow with race stripes!

[@noahpauley]

I honestly would really love to get one of these and upgrade the pickups

[@brainrottedindividual]

the reversed offset sg shape looks super cool. even the headstock is kinda nice.

[@williamrusso3130]

I have an Italia Speedster, which has a similar color scheme and style. Unique body shape, too.

[@rokkstamborski9180]

I got one in black with a white stripe. Only color available at the time.I like it in yellow the stripe goes through to the headstock. 👍

[@kornfed4110]

I am going on my 4th Westcreek, the Racer being my 4th. I bought the 333, Helios, and JX-20. Racer will be here around the 24th. A change of strings for all, and some bridge adjustment (JX-20 was way off) and holy crap. I love these guitars.

[@mattc8723]

Its not orange peel, its banana peel!

[@60CycleHumcast]

Lol

[@finemeat]

That took me a second

[@antico.2757]

Great review! Full disclosure: I'm an asshole that bought up 3 of them (one in each color) after I bought the first one and was just so impressed with it. They had a $40 coupon, so at only $170 each, I couldn't resist! All 3 showed up perfect, basically set up *ok* already, just needed a little fine tuning on the intonation. I'm always surprised to see guitar unboxing videos and playing before replacing whatever horrible strings must be on there. That's the first thing I do before even plugging in.... Such a beautiful machine!!! And I DO dig the extra bonus micro-phonic pickup "issue" - for how I play anyways! Finally, GREAT NEWS FOLKS! Out of curiosity I messaged Westcreek a while back (after they sold out all 3 colors) and they responded, "this guitar are expected to arrive around November 13th!"

[@60CycleHumcast]

Nice! I wrote them and they never replied to me

[@mikesyria1787]

I just got one the pickups are not microphonic and have 4 wires.

[@guitfidle]

Wow, I am relatively impressed with this thing. Some wax potting would be a pretty easy fix to eliminate the microphonic feedback. Pretty cheap solution too, beeswax and paraffin both work. The pickups themselves actually sounded pretty decent. I love cheap guitars like this, I own several now- my favorite score was an Arbor SG jr I picked up at a pawnshop for $70. It didn't need any work at all, cleaned it up a bit, threw some decent strings on, and it plays like a champ! Plays and sounds like guitars you would find in the $500 range, Epiphone, Squier, etc

[@TheAtariCreep]

I dig it and great idea with keeping the neck pup microphonic.

[@mykhedelic6471]

I went to snap one of these up because I'm a sucker for a good looker with decent reviews and a junkie's price and saw they had a purple one... so, I went purple, because purple is the deepest color. Anyway, purple showed up and it was amazingly fine-- very clean build, nice, clear, honest and responsive pickups, beautiful fretboard and such a smooth play. Love it. So, my eye was always on that none more yellow so swveral months later, price still low, I ordered up the yellow. By comparison, both fretboards are equally lush, but the similarities kind of end there. Yellow has more of a baseball bat neck, glossed to match the candy apple coating across the body (purple was matte, like the body, fairly flat neck, especially by comparison), yellow's pickups smokier than purple (purple uncovered, maybe a good example of the whole covers debate), but other than these differences (significant) they're both really fun and comfortable and mega great for the money. My yellow gloss also came with a pickup selector poker chip (not pictured) and purple matte had black hardware and no stripes (just aesthetics.) Anyway, these were both sweet for 190 clams. 💜💛

[@brandonjackson5865]

That’s cool it’s like a thicker esp viper it’s really cool looking

[@alexacojo]

I've got two of these (I live in Canada), the grey one and the red one. Really nice guitars, especially the grey one, it's the first SG type guitar that doesn't neck dive on me. Be advised tho, the red one is more pink candy red then the red they have on the amazon pictures.

[@Moonmaster85]

I live in Chinada as well, ordered the revenge model today in almost an army green color, never really in to explorers but the price and color got me, also grabbed the firefly yellow bat on Amazon wish they had more fireflys

[@alanhembra2565]

I’ve been thinking of buying one of these. I think swapping the hardware from silver to black would be awesome.

[@joellebrodeur1015]

Ooooo, fun😍. Wish there was a short scale version.

[@dougyocom3185]

I am sold love yellow buying one as we speak thanks love different and fun guitars you can just play and not worry about

[@MusicByVicWozniak]

I just realized, I have been watching your vids under another account of mine.. not my patreon account. 😂 Guess its all good (vic on bass)

[@robnolletti3603]

I just received my black racer and oh my what a great great guitar. Live in Canada. It cost me 300 bucks. What a steel quality is there plays nice sounds good. I am just dumbfounded.

[@pedrocora471]

i saw it just yesterday and I had to buy it, now waiting for it to get home! i am going to put some pieces that I have alredy at home, such a v shape Gretsch bridge, superdistortion pickup in bridge position, lockers tuners and some better pots that i have, very excited about this beauty, it is a whole inspiration to play so fast kind of punk rock as Zeke ,Poison Idea, dwarves and some more, hihihihihihi \m/

[@jfinester]

Just amazing what you can get for very little buckage these days. I like the look of this guitar-I love SGs-I’ve never seen a reverse offset one! Crazy idea, but it looks cool. There’s nothing wrong with that guitar that a good setup and better pickups won’t cure. If I was to buy a guitar in this price range, I’d expect to replace the pickups and probably the tuners as well. My first electric was a St George, made by Teisco, got it in 1964, and it was the ‘60s equivalent in price to this one. $85 as I recall, and it was a much lower quality instrument than this thing.

[@elsantoproductora]

That thing looks really cool, a couple of P-94 an you are golden

[@EasyHeat]

Me likes me some cheap-o git-fiddles. One like that in cherry red would legit suit my fancy TBH. Great video dude!

[@physalisgp0265]

I bought one just for the colour. It’s good bang for the buck.

[@theshadowoftruth7561]

I just got my Red Racer Today. Either I got lucky or they have stepped up their QC. My cowboy chords are spot on. ( I did notice some pinging while tuning) I lowered the bridge down some so I was 1.75 on the 12 fret low E and 1.5 on the High E. No buzzing or dead frets found. I did raised the Bridge pickups so they matched the volume of the Neck pickup. Paint job is flawless. I don't play extreme high gain so dont know if the pickups are microphonic but I'm replacing them with Humbucker sized P90s anyways.

[@cambian]

I like the Westcreek Revenge I got recently. I put some decent tuners and some mid-priced pickups in it and am very pleased with the guitar.

[@finemeat]

I want to upgrade tuners on my Westcreek. What did you use? Thanks.

[@cambian]

@@finemeat I got Grover tuners

[@limastall9279]

Which color did you get? and if it happened to be the purple, is it more purple in real life than it is in the picture?

[@cambian]

@@limastall9279 I got the red one.

[@OrthodoxReview]

Almost bought one when you mentioned it in a previous video. Guess I should have.

[@richardwing4070]

I had the red one of those I sent it back. The pick ups were not very high output type pick ups and neck was to thick for me. It is a cool looking guitar.

[@Kevin12321]

The side profile when you hold it up looks siiickk for some reason

[@ottovonnekpunch1268]

Despite the minor flaws, the fact this axe is sold-out from Amazon shows it's a good value for the money!

[@donbishop6994]

Ryan, its an inexpensive guitar. Mixrophonic pickups dont always need replaced. Sometimes they simply arent wax potted. Doing that costs almost nothing. Try that before you pay more money for new pickups. Cheers. 🍻

[@finemeat]

I would like to see a video on that being done.

[@user-ir5gk7yn6d]

I got something out of it because you have fun.

[@onefatstratcat]

I switched out the pickups to a pair of old black hot Deans and picked up a set of a black bridge and tailpiece on Amazon. It' looks so much better now! Great axe for the price.. Super weekend warrior bar banger.

[@ellsworth1956]

The Red ones finally got back in stock and I grabbed one. Going to put 2 P90s in it.

[@sassycat]

Start a surf and hot rod band with this one. There's a Bullfighter S-style guitar on Amazon, when you see it you'll know.

[@summersleepmusic]

I screamed NO at the tv when I saw the thumbnail. I love you, but now Westcreek will be a $500 guitar.

[@timmackenzie8145]

Last time I looked on Amazon they still had 10 of these Westcreek Racers (4 blk, 6 red) for sale. I’m thinking about getting one.

[@user-ke5tn2qt3h]

I just grabbed one of those from Amazon. There are still a few available. Can't wait to see that yellow up close and personal

[@finemeat]

I got a yellow one, it will be here Thursday and with a coupon and tax cost 190 bucks

[@goldwold]

For $219 and a little work and you’re good. You’re totally right.

[@Bliggick]

About the Pickups: You might get rid of dark muddiness of you adjust the pickup height. Maybe they aren't wax dipped and that is causing the feedback. I notice the pickups are 4 conductor, red, yellow, white, bare so that means you can do things like splits, tap, and out of phase.

[@DJKr15py]

This would be a perfect candidate for some wide range humbucker style offset pickups

[@Guitarnivore]

They have a new purple one that I have my eye on...until that one is sold out too!

[@finemeat]

It was a coin toss for me between the purple and the yellow. I got the yellow…

[@platypuspracticus2]

Harley Benton also has an SG clone that's offset but it's more offset in the jaguar/jazzmaster style with the hump on the bottom. But we all know about those and that they're good, cheap guitars (except wrt to 24th fret access). which i'm actually talking about the 580, not the high end ones.

[@DisposableEgo]

I just traded a soulless Yamaha acoustic and an unimpressive Crybaby Slash Wah for this guitar I definitely won the trade 😊

[@rooney00]

I’ve been wanting to try their DC model. Only $162 on Amazon.

[@JacubWhite38]

Even if it isn't perfect stock, it's unique and good enough that it seems like it'd be the perfect mod machine and good to buy if someone is trying to learn how to setup a guitar properly.

[@2bikemikesguitartopics145]

I have always hated this style, but when I saw the yellow and black stripe I jumped on it. It matches my Ram truck. Had it drop shipped to Michigan and then drove it back to Ontario just to get one. I wanted to hate it but in the end I couldn't. Yes I had to fix the nut but I have to do that on all the guitars I buy. I put in push poles for the humbuckers and change the tone caps to 22s. Felt no need to change the buckeyes as they sound great. I changed the tailpiece to a v-style like the gretsch streamliner series and it really makes it pop😮. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHbaYqicodF0naMsi=-rcmOFdcF3QlhaFB

[@pattlehed]

That's an upside down ESP Viper.

[@ISEADEADPEOPLE]

But I bet it don't measure up to a viper 400

[@infn8loopmusic]

On a cheap guitar hearing 'action is uncomfortably fast and i would probably raise it a bit' this is a great thing to hear on a budget guitar because they usually suffer from action needing to be high to because of fret or nut issues.

[@fortayseven]

The yellow neck / headstock is amazing

[@UToobSteak]

If I didn't already have an old beater Epiphone SG, I'd play that West creek. I'd like to find a good chibson next lol. Check the neck relief with the strings off. Sean(scar my guitar) got a West creek and it had a slight back bow too. Might explain your low action, almost buzzy frets, and the nut slots being shallow

[@jacobbockover1628]

Man. I like sgs my furst goos guitar was a s 100 guild n i still play it so a comfy style to me

[@joermnyc]

It looks like a reverse of the “SG” shape you can order from Warmoth, but those are always made as bolt-on bodies. Reverend Roundhouse guitars are kind of an offset Les Paul shape… a Surfy Paul?

[@steveoneal5257]

it would probably be worth doing a good setup and fixing the nut and changing the pups

[@sjs793]

I've been checking everyday, still nothing!! I bought the Revenge and it is a great guitar top to bottom, can't find a flaw. They've gone out of stock several times but they always resurface. But it's not looking good for the yellow racer. The only problem I saw in a Racer review was some of the frets were uneven. So hopefully they're just making the proper adjustments and maybe they'll turn up again. Cuz these are certainly a lotta bang for your buck...

[@scott7521]

Sounds good!

[@theshadowoftruth7561]

I want the red one to put my 2 humbucker sized P90's in.

[@rogerwalker9191]

Hope it shakes out cuz I absolutely LOVE IT, man! Surf machine, I hope?

[@Russell_Optics]

It is a good looking guitar for sure, I love the looks. The pots appear a bit too close together for doing volume swells, but not a big deal. Cut a new bone nut, replace the tuners, and pickups. Personally I would try a set of the GFS humbucker-size P90's. P90's are simple and even the affordable ones sound good.

[@keithhampton9700]

I'm modding a Leo Jamz SG rite now.Locking tuners,P90 bucker size p ups and500k pots. Wish me luck 🤞

[@Russell_Optics]

@@keithhampton9700 I just did the exact same thing to a Schecter C1 E/A. I love the guitar and the Piezo sounds great, but the stock humbuckers were way too dark. I got the hum-size P90's from GFS and 500k pots and it's like a new guitar to me. Good luck to you, I think you will like the P90's.

[@brainrottedindividual]

yeah i would just want that body, it's sexy af. the neck looks good, too. and then just have a bridge pu and a volume knob. that would be perfect. the color would have to go and replaced tho. i think this yellow is generally a good color for guitars, but i don't want a yellow guitar.

[@MichaelBCoats]

Please, oh please do a video where you put in Offkiltertrons and a JM trem system!!!

[@TheDrunkenScoundrel]

They should at least re-release that color. I have been trying to tell people that a reverse SG would look cool and they nailed that. I watched on my phone, and despite the microphonic part, I thought those pickups sounded pretty good.

[@user-ir5gk7yn6d]

I have noticed a lot of metric guitars have the 25" scale- 635mm.

[@kayallovertheplace]

Someone at the ltd factory probably " hey man? What are we going to do with all these left over viper 100 bodies?"

[@BCarpenter2314]

Ryan says he doesn't own another yellow guitar with a yellow sparkle jag-stang over his shoulder 😂

[@60CycleHumcast]

That’s green

[@familiarpurrson8744]

For crying out loud, that’s gold sparkle.😂

[@MashaT22]

@@familiarpurrson8744I also vote that it’s gold sparkle with yellow undertones. Have we just discovered that Ryan might be colorblind?! 😱😂😉

[@larryhensley8586]

@@MashaT22 You might be colorblind. It's definitely green.

[@lone-wolf-1]

All of you are colorblind! Thats green sparle with a hint of yellow🤪

[@dansca72]

Cool guitar! But: does it stays in tune? Everything ok with the neck? Does it bend easily? Is it usable for gig situations? Sorry for the multiple questions... Thanks in advance :-)

[@phucknuts]

I just watched this till the end...why? Because I recently bought 7 fender squiers.... And I plan on turning them into frankenstiens in one way or the other... I'm replacing the tuners on the squier gold 40th anniversary stratocaster.. I'm replacing the pick ups and the tuners on the squier 40th anniversary stratocaster.. The gold models pickups sound unique. The non golds pickups suck. I'm replacing the pickups and tuners on the 40th gold squier telecaster... Those pick ups suck.. The playability on the gold squirs is phenomenal Then I got TWO squier Contemporary telecasters. I'm replacing both sets of pickups with the fender 1970s telecaster pickups.. As well as the tuners. Then I have a squier Contemporary stratocaster. I'm replacing them with the Jeff beck pickups.. Then I have two squier paranormal thinline telecasters.. One in maple One in rosewood I'm replacing the pickups and bridges .. And I'm getting a set of boutique p90s for them Should be fun.. So yeah..I'm into the whole rebuilding thing.. When the guitars Playability is phenomenal.. Then yes.. I'm upgrading... The recently released squiers over the last few years have been off the charts in quality

[@oldcrackadated]

When I get another one I’ll find out if quality of mine is accidental or common

[@davidneily3532]

Love the look. For the $ I would buy it.

[@carwynvan]

I think the stock strings must be really bad because after you changed the high E it stood out and looked really bright and shiny compared to the other 😅

[@oldcrackadated]

I checked my pickups for microphonic & no issue so it may be something that has been corrected

[@Chris4Liberty]

Looks like a great mod platform to me.

[@tedrobinson3802]

I'm liking that blue and white amp behind you. I believe that you should be able and be prepared to do basic maintenance on any guitar. If the basic body of the guitar is good, then fixerup and play.

[@cdavidlake2]

Loev WestCreek. Great guitars.

[@vulcandj]

Very cool looking guitar. I’m curious if one or more of the guitars hanging in the back are DiPinto's?

[@Dogdickdale]

Not a single Dipinto and I’ve been nagging him about it for 8 years. There’s a jag, jag/ stang, nutter, Strat, hallmark, bass iv, Chinese super Strat and high spirit manta hawk.

[@60CycleHumcast]

You need to nag DiPinto about it.

[@McHale72]

"I don't have any other yellow guitars right now!" he says as there's a yellow guitar over his right shoulder. :)

[@60CycleHumcast]

ITS GOLD. GOLD IS DIFFERENT THAN YELLOW.

[@BillyTheKidsGhost]

My lower horn also sticks out further than my top one.

[@makingmusiconline2309]

Can there be any better reason to buy a guitar than it comes in a colour you don't already have? No, didn't think so :D

[@-processdrone-]

Oh if you want to replace the pickups in this on a budget, get some (UK based) Entwistle HV58 pickups in there. They changed my life, Pickups that make SD look lazy and uncaring for a fraction of the cost. I now find it really hard to buy other brands for experiments because I know Entwistles leave so many brands in the dust , no I am not an affiliate.

[@mofost1]

Reminds me of the Reverend super revs, thems is damn dope

[@oldasrocks9121]

If you didnt ruin the nut the other day try Guitar Madness pickups, stick to the sets with steel baseplates. The Overwound Alnico 2 set is the Tonerider Rocksong set on paper, they're good. On eBone and Reverberate. (BTW, scale length is measured on the high E--)

[@mrredritehand]

Yeah it's probably 24.75 scale length. But appreciate the info on the pups!

[@sarawelling5271]

Lemon Drop yellow. I love it.

[@michaelolz]

I've never wanted an SG type until now.

[@finemeat]

Same here