Back to the Desert Grind! - 7 Days to Die (Ep.16)

[@assassinemaxli8930]

I've been following the series since episode one and I'm excited about every new episode. To be honest, the series even made me play Afterlife myself. I noticed (especially after the restart for the 1.1 version) that there are 2 perks that affect crafting and quality. On the one hand, there is one that extends the crafting time but increases the quality. On the other hand, there is the "insight" perk that passively levels up the crafting skills when using weapons/tools (so it basically "generates" the magazines for clubs or other items while you use them, at lest it sems to be so). this 2 skill are probably also the reason,in terms of balancing , that you need so many magazines to build a high quality item. But i think these 2 perks might be worth it.

[@HojuMedia]

@@assassinemaxli8930 Neither of those two perks affect armour crafting tho, you still need 500 magazines to craft blue quality and 900+ to craft max quality

[@pbsixgun6]

@@HojuMedia That is just ridiculously excessive Who the F is gonna play the game that long? It's gonna become unstable LONG before that point.

[@ShadowKingRecks]

I am definitely enjoying the story aspect you got going on, I wouldn't mind seeing more of it!

[@GunsNerdsandSteel]

More to come!

[@scalpod]

TemCam is an absolute monster who must be stopped at all costs, but what worthy champion will rise up to meet the challenge? [bites nails anxiously]

[@ejstone5329]

On the subject of item crafting quality: There IS a perk you can take that adds up to +100% to crafted item quality, at the cost of it taking +100% more time to craft. (split into 4 levels, +25% each) Yes, it's still a buttload of magazines you'd need to reach max quality, but hey, at least that could make it where a crafted 30k quality item would get all the way to 60k item quality. Maybe worth running the numbers to see if it's something you wanna try investing into...? Loving the series, just like all the others. Keep it up

[@NO122221]

it's an absolute must have skill in this mod. it is expensive but it is worth it to max out. not like there's that many useful perks anyways, after getting survivor and battle hardened do preserve vitality there no better perk choices than meticulous. i could craft 22k quality heavy padded armor at level 216 tailoring(it's still garbage though, I realized too late, should've gone with steel armor. I just didn't expect the wasteland to be what it is). it's still a ton, but after setting up paper production with chem lab it's not THAT hard to get there. getting 44k on those seems like a waste of time though, since it felt like last tier items always had diminishing returns to quality gained per magazine level. something that's not unlocked last though is possible to get over 44 k no problem. im playing an outlaw with knives and snipers, and L96 is pretty much the strongest thing in the game damage wise, and it's not even last in its crafting skill, so getting a high quality one would be considerably easier

[@aragonraphael8133]

you are wrong , it is only +25 quality at cost of 100% more time to craft and it cost 1 + 1 + 2 + 2 + 3 perks ... not viable imo

[@Janzer_]

@@NO122221 This seems backwards in that we're reliant on Vending Machines to supply the high level loot. In a game where they're trying to get deeper into simulation, why would this be the cause? Vending Machines should always be loot LOWER than what you can craft. The cost should still be high, but that gives more impetus to work into crafting rather than just looting everything and foregoing crafting. Seems like they didn't consider this or we're just not that deep into the game where crafting ends up being the top tier loot.

[@GunsNerdsandSteel]

I'll have to spend my next perk points into that for sure!

[@HojuMedia]

@@GunsNerdsandSteel that perk only affects weapons and tools. You still need 1000 magazines to craft max quality armour. 500 magazines for blue quality

[@rabbidninja79]

Anthracite from the snow biome burns at heat level 3 for steel it's so long lasting that a stack of it will burn for several hours.

[@samsquatch7285]

Tem, I strongly advise you completely loot every poi in the forest, then desert, then snow and only go to the wasteland once you NEED inconel. Looting in the wasteland is not any better than the snow biome (which is only slightly better than the desert) but the wasteland is stupid with zombies (90% rads or whisperers). To get the nickel ore, we found a small patch of wasteland in the snow biome with a node. Trying to do anything in the wasteland is a death wish unless you have good guns (silenced would be a good idea) and thousands of rounds of ammo. The zombies constantly spawn in the wasteland to replace the ones that you kill.

[@GamingAfter50]

TemCam is one sick monster. GL in the Wasteland, the desert is doing what it can to end your run. Gamestage outstripping equipment is a valid concern here. Fun episode, bird swarms aside.

[@TheSpiceLord]

1k magazines seems excessive even for a grindy mod like this one. Realistically how does one achieve that many without selling their soul for heaps of free time.

[@Florin714]

CM activated 😂

[@alexveselovsky5533]

It's not 1k, i got like 90 for harvesting tools and it opened me green steel tools

[@TheSpiceLord]

@@alexveselovsky5533 ok, like good quality though? Or is that where it comes into play. Thanks for answering!

[@Fritzguyes]

You don't need very much to get decent quality. Going 10 books above yields an ok item. As far as grinding books, the fastest way is to head to the downtown areas and loot all the mailboxes and magazine dispensers. You can get so many literature fragments that way.

[@benbaker4198]

I have a 120 or 140 in tools and I loot blue and purple quality steel tools sometimes

[@_Grumpy_Panda_]

Love these early posts, something to look forward to at the end of work.

[@joseftucek6447]

You should check perks, especially the perk that improves quality of crafted items❤

[@amak8935]

The best thing about this mod is that it's either reading books for a high grade items in crafting or by just doing stuff with the item like clubs to get a high tier one when crafting a new one. whatever you like to do you simply can go ahead and do it.. I appreciate this method a lot. also, the challenges that you face in this mod somehow keep it interesting and never boring for me.. I've been playing this mode for almost a month now and I keep finding myself doing stuff and never lay down on the grind.. I'm still not even close to be ready for the snow or the wasteland biomes..

[@DustinDonald-cz9ot]

I was on day 54 before I found a compass found it in a desk. Never found a watch or schematic to it but I picked the starter class that had a watch. I wouldn't go into the wasteland you will find around the same level of loot just more quantity there seems to be a soft cap of around 17000 for loot you generally find you can find some green quality items but they are rare, if you do venture into the wasteland I would advise doing the residental areas the downtown areas are very dangerous.

[@billy.471]

@@DustinDonald-cz9ot with the new update, finding a compass & watch is even harder. 😬

[@HontounoShiramizu]

@@billy.471 According to patch notes it's supposed to be a lot easier.

[@billy.471]

@HontounoShiramizu oh, had it backwards. Glad to know.

[@Janzer_]

The amount of time this game takes, and Icarus, to produce enough video to be interesting to people is astronomical. For 30 minutes I'd imagine something like 2-4 hours of editing down.

[@bannankev]

Yeah and that’s part of the reason I feel like this series is rushed. He’s going into places he’s not ready for. Complains about it. But keeps going anyways. I mean I love Tem. But this isn’t what I was expecting from this series. I thought he was in it like UL series and that doesn’t seem to be the case. It’s seems very rushed. This is a mod more like UL it’s not fast. Everything takes FOREVERRRRRR AND ITS MEANT TO BE THAT WAY. Is some of it a bit excessive? YES. I AGREE. But this feels like a rush to the finish now.

[@Ninsidhe]

Giggling as you pull out Jawoodle’s stun baton 😄

[@rvnfirmalan2366]

And the plot thickens yet again! Mate, keep up the good work. All your series are much better than most tv shows 😅.

[@_Grumpy_Panda_]

So, definitely item level capped so far, we were discussing it last video in the comments and the numbers haven't changed. Looks like melee weapons are around 10922, guns a bit over 16k. I'd check my game stage, then see if the cap goes up with game stage, whether every game stage, or 10, 25, 50, 100 etc, but you may just end up having to craft better items. Also, someone mentioned that you could craft fragments from paper in one of the other tabs on the magazine bench, it might be worthwhile to see what the conversion of paper and ink to fragment is. You could set up a farm to make the blueberries and other stuff you need and mass produce a bunch, might be the only way to get enough magazines to boost your crafting levels past the cap.

[@adriyasats1840]

Sounds good

[@samsquatch7285]

You need 100 paper and ten black ink/paste to craft one fragment. For black you need charcoal power

[@bk6555]

Yeah, but this is 7D2D, not crafting paper Sim 😂

[@gilbertobrandina9487]

The MOD is still being tweaked and updated. version 0.27 for 7DTD 1.1 is out and it changes a lot of things from what GNS is currently playing. Not only it fixes this 10922 cap (as fas as I know, because you have to start over, so did not got there myself) but changes the way you find fuel and several other adjustments.

[@_Grumpy_Panda_]

@@bk6555 No, its a complete overhaul mod that changes how everything from the base mechanics up work, and part of that is getting better items require crafting, and crafting levels are based on how many books you read, so its kind of a requirement for this mod.

[@notazombie...notatall8577]

The max you can get through loot is green quality, and they're very rare, i know the cap is insane but i wouldn't recommend stopping reading magazines completely, you can take a point in item crafting to double the item quality that you can craft. The waste land is just a nightmare, and you'll get the exact same loot you're already getting.

[@joeymerin7473]

The magazines seem like a lot at first, but the chem station solves that by a lot and requires only one true material: Patience. While yes I understand the concern but you are getting quite a lot of nice guns, got nice melee to start fighting with just need to go into ammo production and medicine to keep up with the flow. Armor is kinda in a odd spot but long as you avoid getting hit it should be ok. The overhaul is intended for long term and I wish people can see that instead of trying to zoom through loot like crazy.

[@davidmay8285]

If you haven't finished the lucky looter series you should use some fragments to do so. Loot bags from zombies seem to have the most useful things

[@GunsNerdsandSteel]

That's true, good tip 😉

[@ScottRivera]

Since GNS is going club for melee anyway, GNS should have a stun baton and steel club on the hotbar. For those tanky zeds (bikers, cops, etc) start off with hitting them with the baton to get them stun locked and finish them off with the steel club.

[@GunsNerdsandSteel]

Yeah, I've been trying to figure out a good melee loadout. Thanks for the tip!

[@123owly]

I found that getting metal pipes from bunk beds and smelting them into iron is way faster than mining iron ore.

[@chrishubbard64]

An idea I had for mining. Build a few storage crates at your main mining locations, and fill them up with stacks of ore over the course of a day. Then you can just swing by and grab a load whenever you need more rather than having to mine each time. Or, just mine all day, dropping them in the crates, then make a few trips with max weight back and forth to load up the forge big time. Either should be more efficient than the current setup. As for books, I was thinking, a good idea might be to, look at the quality of your club crafting now, then after you read the 23 books. See if its a significant increase or not. Because it seems like making 20+ magazines per recording session isnt uncommon and that means by the next horde night after the upcoming one you should easily have another hundred of so big hitters f its proves to increase crafting. Also, does crafting level have any impact on the quality of what you can make?

[@loftmuppet]

The editing is top notch, well done sir.

[@meridathebrave6770]

@ 26:51. The clock on the wall. It would be cool if it was able to tell the time.

[@bannankev]

Some of the mods actually do this. I think UL did, the fallout mod maybe? I know I’ve seen some because I have taken home a clock to use for time in a mod. 😂 but yeah some do tell the time…. Another thing TFP could do. But wont 😂

[@GrindlerGaming]

I found a compass from a business man loot bag, no watch found yet :)

[@colinwatson3635]

I noticed after you disassembled the spear you found that your spear crafting skill went up if there is a club crafting skill yours might be very low hence the low quality items as a test build and disassemble a club for like 10 minutes and see if the overall rating goes up

[@Slingblade2040]

Sun's out update is out. The save breaking update is out. Personally I went with it due to a base collapse from it not loading properly. From the update info it looks like it's worth it. Since the wrist watch and compass schematic are easier to find and alot of bug fixes. From Personal experience it isn't worth it going past like 200 magazines since you seem to get diminishing returns as the quality goes up. I went from quality 42k inconel club to a 44k club after reading 50 big hitters which took me from i think level 180 to like 230. Personally I think they should cut the requirements for quality 6 should be cut in half it is ridiculous to find that many even I gave up after hitting level 240 in big hitters.

[@cheydy184]

1am in new zealand and it feels good knowing i have something to watch before bed

[@MichaelRigoni]

Same here in Japan: Tem and Glock 9 have been my bedtime stories for over a year now lol zzzz😴

[@luvjxnakajen]

Loving the series and the storyline. ❤

[@duaneflint11]

i finally found a treasure map! but all it had was a few pieces of gold nuggets, no money. Was devastating lol

[@bannankev]

I have found like 4 or 5 and I think once I had dukes inside. But at that point I wasnt taking looter perks. Not sure if they would’ve affected the outcome.

[@TheBigfoot425]

The more I learn about this mod the less inclined I am to play it.

[@bk6555]

Yep. I don't get excited anymore whenever he finds new things. It's pretty bad. It's like TFP held the person who made this mod hostage to make it in THEIR vision, super super duper grind for no reasons. 😂

[@TheBigfoot425]

@@bk6555 Yea I want to play a game and be entertained not aggravated lol, It just went a little too far with grinding.

[@Janzer_]

I feel and felt exactly the same. At the same time, I broke down and installed it just to see if I could find some more efficient tweaks in the production process. The mod is definitely time consuming! I don't like what I'm seeing with end game items, where it seems like Vending Machines are the way to go, and if that's the case, why bother crafting weapons at all.

[@AmFFFers]

tem's quality problem is because he didn't upgraded the perk for crafting high quality. he focused on other perks like killing for vitality. the quality perk only needs 3 points that he could've crafted better items if he only prioritized it.

[@Janzer_]

​@@AmFFFers I'd give him some leeway. We always know after the fact how effective something is. We can't know inherently that one thing will be the standout. So far nothing he's done has seemed overly "incorrect", it's a game, and we make mistakes. Some things we do better than others.

[@Splitlip7707]

my horde nights, on Nomad: 7: 4 stoners 14: no stoners, 8 birds 21: 6 stoners, base non functional 28: New base, no stoners all zeds easy peasy 35: all birds, literally all bird and 1 cop loot bags: 4, in total. 5 nights. Horde nights are not great in this mod. 42: fuck it, movin to the desert, building a double walled high ramp blockhouse.

[@benbaker4198]

(Important) Lootstage determines the type of tools weapons armor and guns you find while the crafting skill determines the quality if you get for example I have 110 in machine guns and I find blue quality machine guns yet you can only find tier 1 my tools have 147 and I've found purple quality steel tools yet you find tier 1 the only difference are our skills in the magazine count

[@benbaker4198]

And I'm not saying you'll loot only blue or purple qualities I'm saying you get a higher probability because if your skill isn't high enough the probability is 0

[@Totallynotkyubey]

That doesn't seem to correlate. tem has different magazine levels but everything he finds is around the same quality.

[@benbaker4198]

Not the shoes and no the only ones he's leveling up is forge ahead and vehicles and wiring

[@benbaker4198]

He also read needles and thread or leather crafting and finds green quality needle and thread or the leather crafted items look at the end of the snow biome video he is going to be sad when he finally realizes this when he goes to the wasteland he won't get better quality item watch and see

[@renemuller7383]

@@benbaker4198 : still doesnt correlate with my experience. my highest crafting-skill is level 117 cloth armor yet the ONLY green quality item i found was craftinglevel 11 knive. while cloth-armor is still grey/brown.

[@BobWolf006]

That's my favorite series so far. For once you don't have to put limitation. You need everything to survive.

[@GojiGaming-1]

Ya know, that rifle could be a good weapon to bring with you on regular raids as a some sort of mid range battle rifle. Definitely not a horde day weapon, but a raid weapon would be a good fit for it. I’m enjoying this series and the Icarus series as well and can’t wait for more videos to come out, keep up the good work!

[@horthsms7223]

You need wood burning in the Distiller to have it convert dirty water to clean water. Use metal buckets to fill it 15 KG per bucket.

[@houjisaifeddine5524]

about the magazines, now that you have the chem station, you can mass produce paper. if you can keep up with the ingredients for paper and then the literature fragments, have multiple writing desks to reduce the bulk crafting time, and max out the perk that increases crafting quality in exchange for longer crafting time, you can probably get enough magazines to craft a good weapon. otherwise, you really need to max out the vehicule magazines and get a gyrocopter, makes long journeys easier. one last point, i've yet to try this, but the loot gobbler skill increases loot stage by around 30% when maxed out. would that increase the lootstage enough to break through the yellow quality gear perhaps?

[@GunsNerdsandSteel]

Thanks for the tips, I'll try to keep the mag grind going!

[@TizonaAmanthia]

for what it's worth, I happen to have poked around a joe builder housing complex, and there's at least 3 cement mixers!

[@Daz1187]

The best channel on KZbin new post. Let’s Gooooooo!!!!

[@justcallmebard]

the distillery ate a bunch of your jars when you were filling it, but it's okay because it doesn't consume jars crafting the water where you are.

[@GBugden]

I wish i had a game that i enjoyed even half as long as this man has enjoyed 7dtd

[@lazyman7505]

Other than those 2 perks, crafting skills also increase when scrapping corresponding item.

[@TruMikuel]

Hey, have you gotten a point or two into the deep thoughts or what that skill was? It gives you crafting exp when you use your weapons/tools. Up to 10% at rank 5, which doesn't sound much but it would add up passively over the days...

[@renemuller7383]

cant say i have found it to be worth yet, compared to masscrafting paper.

[@meganroberts9049]

Great episode. Can't wait to find out what's going on with Temcam!

[@jax1411]

You get the Jars back from the distillery

[@dgthunderer]

I think late game the mod expects you to have Chem stations producing paper and desks turning that into fragments constantly.

[@TalismenG72]

I have been thinking of trying this mod out.... not so sure now after what was found out about crafting.... that is a bit rough. I like a long game, but that many mags is insane....

[@horthsms7223]

Choppng up corpses = bones for paper and combat skill (more entity damage all wpns) = possibly more editing for you.

[@Spicy6969]

That psg-1 looks like a DMR hints the bigger mag. The L96 is bolt action way slower.

[@Marc_von_Hoffrichter]

Grind, grind, grind. Thanks Tem, another great ep. Cheers cobber.

[@horthsms7223]

If you got 5/5 Meticulous - 650 Skill lets you craft 64-65K items. Chem station can run full time turning bones to glue and glue + wood to paper. Then research desk turns paper to Lit Frags and Lit frags to Books. With multiple machines, you can do 50-100 books(2 Lit Frag per) per video session.

[@jadeobsession9088]

maybe a Savage Country or camping store would have watches or compasses?

[@GunsNerdsandSteel]

Worth checking I think

[@loki3374]

Are there any melee vending machines? I have only ever seen ranged weapon ones. I am guessing there are not.

[@andrewcampbell3337]

At 24:30, that's the house I live in for my playthrough, good decor and sturdy.

[@Nabsickle]

Started a game of this really enjoying it no idea when horde night is I've lost count

[@D-Centgaming]

If i am not mistaken you get the effect of arrow to the knee with pistol as well

[@techandgaming0]

You should craft the mining magazines to get the one shot on ores 👌🏻

[@excelsiorgamez8850]

Anyone else see him get a spear crafting level when he backed into a zombie with his motor cycle? It was either that or the bird shortly after. 17:44

[@jokerstwisted5149]

Love the vid so far but whyyyy so short. Keep upd the good stuff

[@turgon99]

yeah they really messed up the crafting in this mod. Four of us played up to day 80 and simply were not able to get the gear needed to deal with the Rads and Blue Eyed zeds. I think you'd need max Meticulous and starting day 1, every single magazine you find to go into 1 armor, 1 weapon, and Forge Ahead in order to gear up for the wasteland. Which honestly sounds like an awful experience.

[@GunsNerdsandSteel]

Yeah, the crafting curve on this mod is brutal.

[@turgon99]

@@GunsNerdsandSteel I'd rather wait on Rebirth or roll back to A20 and play Undead Legacy

[@jaredruth7424]

Approximately 1 minute in that was one hell of a sand pile 666 units of sand lol😂

[@Donshades4404]

Just so you know, hardened chests give you steel!

[@Md936S]

If you wanna take a break from the grind you should try out the escape from tarkov test version. Or just do the gun modlet an overview. You won't believe it when you see it XD

[@dellanpinegrove6178]

Deconstruct the main chests for iron bars

[@mitchelkral8190]

27:53 there is a backpack behind the wood pile in the lobby of the pass-n-gass

[@gilbertobrandina9487]

I'm torn about this one, because you invested so much in this play and the mod update is savegame breaking, but since you won't update: 1) you can't exchange silver or gold bars and nuggets in the cash machine. That was fixed, but in 0.26 it just ate your stuff. You can exchange cash and fake cash still. 2) don't recommend spending another magazine to craft the advanced furnace. Besides needing eletricity, it appears it was very buggy in 0.26 still. It worked in a very limited capacity. Don't know the details because I stayed far from that and did not craft one. 3) in 0.26 the distillery is bugged: it will duplicate your jars. You must have jars in inventory to get the water, but it will not consume your jar, rather give you a new full jar filled with water. I had to start all over and I know it's not cool, but for the fixes above, and much more stuff, I would not mind you start a new series. -Cars now are fuel source. Jerry cans spawns were nerfed. Mega Crush effect nerfed to 30s. Weight added to many things. You use jars also to collect coffee and mega crush from machines. It seems the tools and weapons fixed at 10992 was fixed. That effect when crouching was removed, and many improvements.

[@GunsNerdsandSteel]

Thanks for the heads up on the bugs! I'll make sure to avoid those. Gotta stick with this save and won't be touching afterlife for quite some time once I finish

[@Janzer_]

The mod makes backup copy of game, it tells you.

[@smadol9948]

You can also edit the afterlife mod game file so that it gives 2, 3, 5 or even 10 points for each magazine you read instead of one

[@bannankev]

To everyone complaining how hard this mod is. I would suggest go back and watch the first couple videos. Why? LOOK AT HOW HARD WATER WAS! This isn’t a short mod or an easy one. Everything you do is relentless grind for anything. If it ain’t up to your taste just dont play. Simple. But to just fill comments with complains that’s wrong. The mod is designed the way the maker wanted to make it. He doesn’t have to bend his knee to the likes of everything 7d2d player. Just dont play if you don’t like it. I remember seeing all these comments back in UL as well. TL:DR if you don’t like UL this isn’t for you either. Simple as that. Both have ester extreme grindy elements that cannot be avoided. Both are long term OVERHAUL mods. Not short term.

[@Spicy6969]

With your aim, that duckbill mod might actually help you. 🤔

[@catto121]

They could honestly half the number of books or even get it to a third of the current requirement Cause getting materials for them also seems tedious

[@jek9056]

Tem i think theres a perk that increases quality of stuff found cause i was watching some of the older vids and i saw after you took a looting perk the quality went up so it may be worth looking into getting more looting perks

[@arjara85]

What is the difference for the weapons with/without a star? it doesn't seems to be quality nor damage, so what's the bonus in?

[@CashMoneyMerta]

I believe the term is "caught with your pants down" Tem

[@valachimus]

Nothing worse than expecting it to be smooth and getting a big 'ol 'bush instead! ....dang zombie dogs

[@aricwilson6286]

Another great Video!

[@horthsms7223]

Search city buildings with lots of desks if you want a watch.

[@nathanburgett1599]

I mentioned the unbalanced crafting last video. Its meant for a really long game. You could give yourself 9 more for every one you find. That would let you upgrade and still make a normal length series.

[@coupdemain7601]

the watch schematic is in the perk menu

[@samsquatch7285]

Really? Where?

[@coupdemain7601]

@@samsquatch7285 try clockwork thats where it was last time i played ok.

[@dgthunderer]

If you're worried about crafting quality, there is a perk that helps with that.

[@Athrin01]

you need to check ammo type on the light machine guns, some are 556 and some are 762

[@caffeinated_trash]

Should look into putting perks into meticulous. It helps with quality. As for the wasteland, i ran through it for my play through before the uodate.. Nothing but rads, whisperers and rad zomb bears😅

[@the_true_joz]

This is my main problem with this mod and Undead Legacy to some point. I understand some people like to grind, but holy crap, who has the time to find all those magazines. I played my fair share of grindy games and mmos, but this seems a bit excessive for a mostly single player survival game. I just want to kill some zombies, eventually fight a horde, not grind for days in order for my pickaxe to hit for 5 more dmg. I dont say that everything should be given to player in instant, but just tone down a bit on the grind. I know some people will say, just dont play this mod then, and that point is completely valid from their side, but everyone has a right to express opinions.

[@tyghe_bright]

Yeah, it seems really poorly balanced. I like a grind, but also want to feel *some* sense of progression.

[@misterdomino1435]

The chem station should help bump up your skills a bit

[@Janzer_]

This seems backwards in that we're reliant on Vending Machines to supply the high level loot. In a game where they're trying to get deeper into simulation, why would this be the cause? Vending Machines should always be loot LOWER than what you can craft. The cost should still be high, but that gives more impetus to work into crafting rather than just looting everything and foregoing crafting. Seems like they didn't consider this or we're just not that deep into the game where crafting ends up being the top tier loot.

[@burningas8894]

There is a perk called Clockwork (?) or that same spot that gives you the ability to craft the compass and watch. I am at work and can't check the name but its that perk or the one next to it. Can't remember the name for it.

[@croyd2788]

Do the sugar butts work when using weapon vending machines?

[@Hyperion520]

Seeing Hugh's eye balls at Bob's place makes me wonder what Trader Jen's fate has become if Temcam got her. Is there any perks you haven't used or overlooked that could increase your loot quality?

[@filypefx]

wait... but with that dynamic... crafting high end gear is borderline impratical? you should farm and wait lady luck smile upon you? that is a bummer. ps.: by comments, turning back to vendor machine to get good quality gear... it defeats the proposition of the mod no?

[@granskog4935]

loot goblin = more magazines

[@Paine981]

Have you checked the armor you got today? It seems it finally has some modifiers unless I missed them before. Also, isn't there a perk that makes crafted equipment higher quality? If not then you might want to invest into some lucky loot perk

[@graffixx8088]

tou should be looting EVERYTHING! missing out on some good stuff at times

[@GunsNerdsandSteel]

Sure, I'm just focusing on hitting an extra "main loot" or two per day instead of 100% clearing them out

[@anthonyfish149]

It's got to be said, I don't think the wasteland will really help. On my adventures just to get into a poi is a war with whisperers and rads, ammo stocks don't last and the loot is not worth it. Even with the best guns you can get out of the vendo's.

[@mumpfy2186]

Nice! had fun watching it

[@flagrantyeti]

1000 crafting books for high quality weapons is wild to me... like thats not even "grindy but attainable" thats just takin the p155 lol not sure on the thought process behind that decision, as well as the thought process to cap the quality of items in loot haha

[@rb2530]

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[@MattDoesLife539]

How do you have your backpack on your character like that? During the motobike rides.

[@ThePeaceandStuff]

this is why i dont do a lot of these overhaul mods. they make things difficult just for the sake of being difficult, to the point where its not even fun

[@bk6555]

Yeah, the idea behind some of these mods make no sense....might as well think that it's TFP that made these mods.

[@vanslanzerdefanel]

I personally like to be in a game for over 100 days. Vanilla is boring I can beat the game by the end of week 2, yes I meta game it but I have 6000 hours. Im going to meta game it. Things that give me a grind is a godsend, I thought legendary parts were going to do that in vanilla but nope, going into day 14 horde with full T6 eh

[@tonybones5509]

I love these mods. Makes the game feel new again. Vanilla is painfully simple to me. They have some rough edges, but so does vanilla.

[@bk6555]

@vanslanzerdefanel Yeah, but the issue is that he is a streamer AND has a story, lol. Nothing wrong with you guys loving the format, but it doesn't work well for streamers and people who only watch the game.

[@nephalemd3654]

Exactly. Most mods are grindfest (Afterlife, Undead Legacy), unbalanced (War3zuk, Ravenhearst, War of the Walkers) or ugly as hell (Sorcery Mod) For me, the best modder is Khaine with his Darkness Falls. Other nice "light overhaul" mods are Tongo mod and Apocalypse Now.

[@jeffanderson3424]

Gameplay wise, I think you should just dev mode yourself the boat load a magazines. You are already stuck on an old mod patch, I don't think it is inappropriate to apply a balance change through console commands. This type of progression is for a dude expecting to live for 1000 days and your series typically go sub 100.

[@Boritis]

You gonna need silencers for your guns at the wasteland for sure.

[@dumogdeilig]

Does quality affect damage much?

[@GunsNerdsandSteel]

Yes quite a bit, and armor rating too

[@DayBeforeU]

I was told on Discord that in Afterlife the quality doesn't work like in vanilla. I'm on day 6, so I can't really tell. GNS and people judge the mod so quickly, and the devs are saying it's fine. Go figure. GNS should look deeper, maybe. They said you can't think "oh this is same as quality 1 or 2 in vanilla". I'm on that mindset as well, and I don't know how Afterlife quality works.