Firewood Bundles - Burning Through the Bags and a Question for you Wood Hounds

[@lifewithpeter2819]

We stack everything in two rows on pallets and here in Utah with the dry air and heat it dries really fast. Having seen your video last year using these bags with firewood written on it we adopted that. Thanks for the idea. So far we’re sold over 300 bundles just this year. We also do bins for $50 and they are very popular as well. We thought we had three months worth of dried wood this spring and we sold out within three weeks. Luckily we have good sources for fresh cut wood and also seasoned trees that have been down for a couple years. Thanks for all the great advice you offer. You’ve been a great inspiration!

[@arturovazqez]

Hi Peter! I'm also sell firewood bundles, can I ask please what kind of bins you use, Im looking for more options please and thank you!

[@joebob7344]

You are a fun loving crazy guy that enjoys life and work. This is an great channel to watch. Good idea with the garbage can log loader. As far as wood drying under a cover, put a fan on it. It will dry much faster and it cost almost nothing to run a few fans.

[@Back40Firewood]

Thanks....appreciate your comment and thanks for being part of the Back 40 community & channel. 👍😀🍻

[@tomaszciolkosz9346]

Hi, I got inspired by u and I start to sell wood too, tree service delivered logs for free any amount i need, first time i stack my wood nicely about 15 cords, now I always have it in the pile uncovered, drys as good as stack one, even after rain wood is exposed to sun and wind and dry very quickly, before i sell always test in my own fire pit, burns fine. I’m selling about 10 cords in 2 weeks in 3x3 stacks. Nice videos, keep them coming!

[@donaldscow6386]

Stacked wood will be better quality for years longer than the outdoor stack. Used to cut and sell firewood to the tune of 20+ cords each fall or winter. It was ALL split and stacked by arm,strong. The two sons and I did one hell of a lot of wood. Some wood we had to carry couple hundred yards thru the woods to truck. Cutting wood is very funner. Keep up good work.

[@4440pvc]

Here in Florida piles 0n the ground you lose a lot to rot unless you pile on concrete. Lose does dry faster. I actually go into the piles with my loader and sear them up. One caveat I hate stacking but love making fire wood been doing it for over 40 years.

[@OurGreeneAcres]

Hey Dan I’m going to have to go with in the shed as my preference. I’ve had wood to mold inside piles outside if I leave any outside I will at least stack it. Take care brother

[@kennethcox421]

Thank you. The trash can is a great idea. I've been saving feed sacks and wondering how to make them work the best. A trash can that fits inside will be the answer.

[@outsideinmichigan]

My vote is stack the wood. That’s what I like to do. I feel it drys a lot faster. 👍

[@larryevans4624]

Great topic. I never have enough wood cut ahead to test this theory. I usually don't start cutting till September and finish in April when I throw the last log into the wood burner. By then I'm so tired of cutting wood I just want to forget about it for awhile. But this year after cutting for around 40 + years because of the Chyona virus Im getting a nice start. I believe in first impressions and instinct, what works for you may not work for me. But since I work with more high moisture wood than not, I find the stacking is better than piles. If I where selling wood I would stack with a gap. No one wants to buy moldy wood. Great content and comments here, keep up the good work wood hounds.

[@hotpoker4212]

Greetings from the Emerald Isle of Ireland 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 love your videos, great idea, with the trash can,👍👍

[@larrykluckoutdoors8227]

I like my way of stacking on landscape timber in single rows. I have about 14 cords that way. The pine that I cut in May burns really great now.

[@davidholder8610]

Hi the stacked pile in your shed put a 10 ins pipe with hols in it in center it works .lets the air go throught all off your stacks .iv done it to my wood stack .dry as bone in middle.david uk

[@jerrycattau97]

the rain and the hot sun

[@stonecropfirewood3393]

U can scoop into the piles with the tractor bucket. I did not think it would work but it did. It was a bucket like urs. Just a regular bucket.

[@GPOutdoors]

Morning Dan! Good question - Roger on Tractor Tech did this comparison on his channel a little while ago and used a moisture meter to test the splits in each pile. His results might provide you some insight to make a decision on it. Good luck!

[@mikenador7516]

Everyone is hanging out at the bonfire, it's the only fun and safe thing to do and still see friends and family. Firewood is going to be in high demand this year.

[@TonyR-k7f5q]

Love the 13 gal setup nice job bud

[@bigDH123]

I think the wood in the shed will dry faster, for the simple reason the wood outside will get rained on, then all the moisture under the big pile will stay wet longer. Thats my take on it Dan. Thanks for the video.. I'm glad sales are up this year, thats awesome.

[@sureflamefirewood4174]

You should look at local stores and camp grounds.. my first year was 2020.. I sold 3500+ bags.. looking at double that this year... and now just picked up a hardware store the wants 20 35 square foot bags to start... bags are looking great for 2021!!!

[@roy40oz]

I think that the moisture comes out from the ends much more than the middle. So stacks would dry faster and more evenly.

[@ianpahlke9829]

hi dan each to there own i guess here in OZ i just stock pile our timber on hard stand ground eg road base out in the weather no tarps or covers for 12 months seems to get enough air flow , works for us take care mate stay safe.

[@davidcarrow5419]

Stacked in rows gets my vote

[@michellepaltinavich674]

omg ,Intellagent !! thank you! i would buy the gauge the test for moisture content and that would be the true test !!

[@aukebij3193]

I myself stack them on humps up to five meters high. I do have raised grids under it so that the stacks are off the ground

[@danielkent868]

I'm a fan of piling wood instead of rows & been thinking about the center of the pile taking longer to season so to counteract that I thought about putting a perforated 4" pipe in the center to allow more air circulation to occur & build the pile around it.

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

Nice sale at the right time..just be prepared as he may return for more..

[@CraigsCords]

This is my first year having a campfire wood stand and I've been selling by the arm full, no twine/bags/wrap. My stand is right next to a county park/campground so I have good traffic. Interested in what you decide to do for bundles. While the armful method is easy/efficient for me, it's not the most professional looking and more hassle for my customers.

[@Back40Firewood]

Nice work on getting a stand up and moving some wood...sounds like good location so might actually be easier for campers to just get it loose since they'll just be going right to the campsite.👍😀🍻

[@backtoedenallnaturallandsc5547]

I’ve always found that the inside of our firewood heaps tend to mold and rot instead of drying out when in direct ground contact.

[@DocRaunchy]

Nonreturnable Pallets on the ground help. No matter if you are stacking or building heaps. I use them everywhere to keep it dry from the ground. AND it helps with air-circulation.

[@ashevillenctrailcamera5523]

What about stacking a holzhaufen round pile? The theory behind it if stacked correctly creates a chimney effect drawing air through the pile and drying it quicker.

[@jayusher576]

Gonna need another big box of bags.....👍

[@georgesalamonjr7233]

I believe it will dry better in the middle of any pile or stacked wood providing it has something over the top. not the sides to keep moisture at bay.

[@OutsidewithScheib]

I would think the stacked and covered would be the better drying wood I don’t cover my wood till right before the snow flies unless it’s the stand wood of course.

[@williamhitching861]

I have found after 50 years of doing australian hard wood, piles are the only economical way of doimg it and the more rain and wind they get drags the talon and sap from the wood but your piles cant be too high all the best nothing rong with rows if you have the energy and time

[@douglassmith7515]

Was wondering where you get your bags

[@davidwestervelt6050]

We stack our wood outside in rows. It normally dry after the first layer is taken off if it gets wet. We never have covered our stacks. Our land is open with very little tree cover and lots of sun and air flow. In the woods like you are it seems to hold moisture due to all the plants. I found it was hard on my equipment when i was logging. You can alway try different things. Find what works best for you and your operation.

[@maryhornbostel6959]

Saran wrap. Put wood in can and pull it up to start the wrap. Wrap as you remove the can. It protects the wood from rain too.

[@peteshields1448]

Stacking is better buy far but not 5 rows deep . No air movement in middle . Same problem with large piles but if you roll it with your loader now and then , so the center wood gets exposed it will dry evenly . Been selling firewood for 20 years but never tried bundled wood . I do like the way you are doing it and you have me thinking. Get some more bags and get packing !

[@timberhitchllc]

Not apples to apples in your case. As you mentioned, stacked wood is covered. Thrown pile is open. ASLO, the best way to get the biggest bang for your buck in tight piles like either of those is NO ground contact. The preference for my operation is plastic pallets. Also, I like my uncovered piles to be exposed to the sun. It seems to keep things moving along nicely.

[@traviscover590]

I like your new video today buddy

[@mattmilkie5847]

we use ibc totes, and don't stack inside them, which is the best of both worlds, plus, moving a face cord into the house is as easy as firing up the skid steer.

[@outdoorswithlarryrobin]

Good video, where do you purchase your bags?

[@outdoorswithlarryrobin]

I store my wood in a pile, inside a unused cattle feed building, concrete floor and walls, open on all ends except north

[@RCAFpolarexpress]

Good day Sir, Great to see your side road business is doing well 👍😊You can cover the lower 2x4 with tine steel roof materials so it will protect it againts woodsplinters and your investment on you nice carry hall.😊 Your wood is under a roof will be drier than loose wood outside for sure 👍Use a wood humidity meter to find out Sir 🤔 You better stake wood to gain space that not doing it. Have a great TGIF Cheers 👍👍👍

[@joelsanford]

Have you tried it in a holz hausen form? Looks like a beehive, kind of a cross between stacking and piling....

[@kevinmason3086]

Stacked wood dries quicker than piled found that out the hard way after having piled for 3 yrs. It was still somewhat green then I stacked it and dried out in 4 months.

[@JoesFirewoodVideos]

EXACTLY RIGHT Kevin.

[@adamcarter5678]

I vote for the wood shed being the best situation for drying wood. For the simple fact its out of the elements. As others have stated, I think the wood in the center and bottom of the big pile would be getting less air flow than the center rows in your wood shed. Also, rain water will make its way down in that pile and could further complicate things. But with that being said, with all your inventory, how long is that wood going to sit before you need it? It could be mostly seasoned by the time you need it. For the sake of space in the wood yard, I'd keep building up piles, and as pallet space open up, move it off the pile little by little.

[@sureflamefirewood4174]

How is your stand really doing?? What is the theft rate if any?

[@dukeflem]

I think you have a moisture meter don't you? I have two I use all the time. You can answer the question directly yourself. My favorite is the General MMD4E. It has a calibration test in the cap. The other one is the AccuMASTER XT. I think I got them at Home Depot. They are good for more than firewood like measuring moisture content in drywall and lumber. I'm not going to prejudice the question you asked about drying in Covered stacks vs Haystacks by answering just now. PS. I think you should break Little Bossman in on the bagging operation on something like tying the strings on the bags so you don't have to remove your gloves each time and he gets to help out.

[@i.m.askance7996]

Stacking wood in alternating criss-cross layers is the best way to dry it out. Save the tight stacking for when you put it under cover.

[@traviscover590]

I like your new video yesterday buddy

[@backtobasicstipswithtomrib19]

a lot of discussion ...how many of you use a moisture meter and split a piece from deep in the stack and or pile and check it???

[@AndreasvonT]

Stacks do better but I do piles. Stacking time factor would force me to quit doing it. This year I am making tunnels into the center of the piles and blowing air into them with a solar panel and 12 volt fan. It is an experiment. Last year it rained constantly but the wood still dried enough for people to buy all winter. I had a wee bit of mold in the center of the pile but normally It doesn't. I also put the wood between corral panels to keep the pile narrower and gives me the option to cover the top of the pile and still have the sides open for air to flow into the pile

[@cujo7778]

I've had 16 ft high by 25 round piles of fresh cut green split firewood by feb march and by nov dry even the middle of pile granted its in direct full sun from morning till sunset uncovered. Ive also had stacked green split firewood covered on top only and didn't dry as well in my opinion it really depends on the environment its in shade vs sun covered vs uncovered ground moisture open area vs closed area and ofcourse species of wood some dry faster than others. If you're well ahead it doesn't matter as much but if you're depending on that specific wood only it is concerning

[@NLLFAN2008]

Did you get those at uline? And what size are the bags , and what do you sell them for?

[@rosiedrown2168]

Where do you get your bags? What size do you cut you wood?

[@Back40Firewood]

I have them listed on my website www.back40firewood.com under the 'what I use' section. I usually cut the pieces of wood to 16" or close to that.

[@jeanvaljohn3921]

How much do your bags weigh ? What are your bags made of ?

[@stedder8436]

Good stuff man

[@healyfamily4]

My OCD says you need to stack it. BTW Hometown Acres went to all bundle wood. More $$ per cord. I think the guy from Life in Farmland compared the Holzhausen vs Stacked wood and he came out with the stacked wood did better. But that was just one guys research. Have a great one!

[@bnieves100]

How much do you charge for a bundle.?

[@JohnWhite-si4xc]

yup we can not keep up with them either this year so far bundle wood is what everyone wants

[@JohnWhite-si4xc]

I have always though that big pile of wood dry's better in a pile then stacked it was what my grandfather also always told me stack does not get a lot of air so that is my thoughts

[@TheMatthewKline]

New sub. Nice system you have going. Haven’t watched all the vids yet. Where are you? Do you have videos of going over your roadside stand?

[@Back40Firewood]

Hello & welcome to the channel & the Back 40 community...glad you're here! Yep I have a video of building the roadside stand...I'm also going to possibly be doing an upgrade to it here in the next month or so.

[@andrewslagle1974]

I just put it in big piles out side and tarp it no complaints and i burn it my self.This summer i have sold alot of wood for out door fire pit use 6 to 8 cord a week average.I think in side is best ,but i could not store the amount i sell to much moving and storage room.

[@DocRaunchy]

Interesting question. I really haven´t found the answer to that yet. Haven´t some scientists in wind-experiments found an answer to this?

[@FlanaganHomestead]

Stack in rows with a small gap between rows

[@diskotekentertainment8525]

Do you have a good supplier for the potatoe sack style bags?

[@jeffwilliams312]

I always found that pilled up dries alittle better then stacked but I don't like the way it looks

[@mrswray]

Do you have a video on your fire wood stand and prices?

[@Back40Firewood]

Yep I just showed it in the video the video that came out before this one. 👍😀🍻

[@joshsilvers3937]

Have you ever thought about using what they call ibc totes? Look them up that how im doing my wood for now on going to stack wood right from splitter right in crates behind splitter. Less handling and you can sell them that way also charge 20-30 $ deposit fee on tote so you can always get them returned when done. Just an idea 💡

[@GeoffPSU]

If that pile of wood was under a carport style pavilion with roof and open sides, the pile would have the drier piece, provided it is on a pallet. The way to tell is to start a pile and mark one half of a split round, and take the other half of the same round, mark it and put it in the shed. In a year, dig them both out and check with the moisture meter,

[@shawnwilliams7041]

Where do you get those bags from I've been looking but no luck

[@Back40Firewood]

I got those off Amazon: www.amazon.com/shop/back40firewood Not sure if they are available still or not. If they are out of stock just check back now & then.

[@nickgillon2625]

This may surprise you , But split wood exposed to lots of rain will dry wood much faster. In fact if wood is required to dry much faster, one puts a rose water sprinkler atop of the pyramid stack . In theory, The running water draws out the sap from the wood. Boat builders of a bygone era put bundles of green planking into running creeks to dry the timber. Green wood stacked under roof will take much longer to dry. A moisture meter will quickly alleviate any questions you may have about wood moisture levels. FYI .....20% moisture in split wood is ideal for burning on sale wood.

[@MrThenry1988]

Interesting. I always dry in a stack outside. Some wood splits better green. I'll see a little mold on the ones on the ground after a year. Good for the fire pit the next year.

[@firefightingmailmansnypes5523]

I wonder how much difference the time of year that the wood is cut has to do with the drying process. So wood cut in late fall with the sap down will it dry much faster than wood cut in mid spring with the sap up?

[@michaeltaylor9184]

How many lbs. Is one of your bundles? How much does a bundle sell for in your area?

[@603gears]

Anything with a roof over it will have a lower moisture content and burn better. Loose vs stacked in the open I would think the stacked pile would still be drier with the upper rows shielding the lower logs in the stack. Just one man’s opinion. KG

[@daveholmes123]

Dan, that's awesome your bundling business is rockin! My opinion I think the wood stacked in rows would season better? But I'm not sure, stacked sure does look better, keep being cool buddy 👍

[@jimwagner6260]

For a time and money efficiency I've seen piles that were covered and if possible not on dirt. This seems to split the cost.

[@mikeulloa]

We don't sell wood, but I cut and burn a lot and here is our easy secret. We stack our wood on pallets in 8ft rounds that are 7 or 8 feet tall, topped with a layer of plastic sheeting - held down with a layer or two of wood. - It is a self supported round stack that is safe and easily pclimbed and walked upon. - We have 3 of these, one for each year of drying. - The rows have a lean toward the center of the stack. This is accomplished by insering occasional horizontal, thinner,, pieces of firewood, at the outer edge. This keep the angle pointed slightly down toward the bottom, middle of the stack. - The wood remains dry: rain, snow thunder storm (excluding flood). - The wood is easy to pull at waIst hight, the stack will collapses down in on itself for easy retrieval. - To extend the life of the pallets, they are attached to "treated ground contact" 2x4,s. - Any odd, ugly cuts of wood not fit for the outer rings, are tossed into the middle of the stack - "out of sight, out of mind - till dry". - Happy Firewooding!

[@ottohonkala6861]

Piles wont dry - except on top. No getting away from stacking.

[@tylerfraizer954]

I think if it is outside in the sunlight it dries as good or better.

[@joeyarbrough1956]

I leave my wood in a pile. 1/4 acre 12 foot tall and it dries fine thru the summer. Never had any complaint about it not burning.

[@thelittlestpunky]

Loose stacks are sure easier to make! You don't see big firewood outfits stacking their wood very often. I think it comes down to how busy you are and what you want to look at in your yard. They both dry at some point. I would rather be splitting than stacking, I can get enough wood I can let it sit longer without using it.

[@northgrayfirewoodco.442]

Great video! Where do you get your bags and how much do you pay for 100?

[@Back40Firewood]

The link to where I get my bags is on the Back 40 Wood Hounds site here: www.back40woodhound.com/gear I usually order a 100 at a time.

[@andyschwehn8147]

How much are you getting for bundles in your area?

[@elizabetht9734]

Is it safe to burn the mesh bag in our fire pit that the wood came in? It's plastic so it's toxic right? Lol

[@donspremiumfirewood5573]

Didn’t read all the comments maybe somebody ask this but how much do those bags cost roughly??

[@wafive]

Is it possible that wood could dry faster if stacked vertically, rather than laid on its side (IE Horizontally). Sap and water travel up the trunk along the grain. does it follow that the sap would "fall out" easier if it were stacked the same way as it was when living, and the sap could "run" out through the pipes as it were?

[@Canadianduke23]

How much does a bundle go for down there? Up in Canada 🇨🇦 it goes for 10 bucks on average.

[@MrShep75]

I bought those same bundle bags. On Amazon the shipping is $15, which I thought was too much. And I noticed the company making them is on 30 miles from my house on the Iowa Wisconsin line, so I called them and had 100 shipped to me. Got the bill and the shipping was over $20. Amazon is the cheapest shipping.

[@darrenwandy8085]

I tried Amazon...couldn't find bags. Can you please let me know what you typed into find bags...

[@bobv4827]

Hey great channel, where do you get the bundle sacks from?

[@Back40Firewood]

There's a link to the bags on my site's 'What I Use' page: www.back40woodhound.com/gear Thanks.😀👍🍻

[@bobv4827]

@@Back40Firewood Thank you Bro, Hey tell Chris to get my 28cc out to me i ordered it the 19th of last month ;) anyway stay safe my friend also i am a Huge Packer Fan , can you get tickets ?? Lol

[@106pricey]

If the loose pile sees sun all day, it will be dryer than the shed wood. I have found that a stacked pile in the shade has more moisture. Makes sense if you are selling alot, why waste time stacking?

[@kevinvallee9049]

Question of the year. I don’t know I’m Thinkin has be wood under the shed.

[@craignash4736]

My vote is always stack wood , almost a no brained !!!

[@toddsoutsideagain]

My opinion stacked is better! I cut some standing this spring and stacked in rows under a roof and it’s already down to a 9- 11. % moisture level

[@waynejohnson9855]

what does it cost to per bag and are you certified? getting certified is not hard from what i understand.

[@Back40Firewood]

The bags come out to about $0.85 for just the bag with shipping. Not certified, haven't really looked into what is involved with that or what are the benefits of it.

[@waynejohnson9855]

@@Back40Firewood thank you and certified just means it can be brought into state parks.

[@lliamarden8560]

I would think both have problems - better would be the third option of separating your rows more. But a lot depends on what your turnover is and how long you can afford to leave it drying.

[@whhhoodym6999]

How much do you sell the bags for if you don't mind me asking?

[@williamwhite9275]

My opinion that it would be a little bit better it the shed but I feel like they dry the same and i pile all of mine a lot less work with a elevator

[@hardwoodharry6364]

Dan where do you get your bags from

[@hardwoodharry6364]

Please

[@Back40Firewood]

I have them listed on the 'What I Use' page on Back 40 Wood Hound site: www.back40woodhound.com/gear The image of bag is link to where you can buy....thanks! 👍😀🍻

[@mikeshobbyhomestead8917]

Everyone is doing bags due to more $ per cord. I’m done with the days of $150-200 per cord. To much work for little pay. When people pay $1000-$1500 for a cell phone they can pay more for a bag of firewood.

[@fastovski77]

The Best!)