Jay Monahan provides WORRYING update on LIV Golf merger...

[@tessp100d4]

Phil was right, from the beginning.

[@tessp100d4]

For you doubters, trying taking a close look at the actual players. They are having a great time being a pro golfer. The fans too. It’s an awesome sporting environment

[@Rob-v3q3q]

I went to JCB and it was a fantastic day to see all them top players great experience I be there next year 👍

[@chuckycheese84]

Jay still having a job is the most cringe thing of the past two years

[@keithdrake1159]

Monahan is terrible, he should have been fired a year ago.

[@billcarrier9622]

The PGA Tour are "Slow Waking" this merger to death because they don't want to do the deal. It's time for LIV to start offering new deals to top PGA Tour players. Ask yourself what What would happen if Scottie, Xander, and Rory all defected to LIV on September 1st?

[@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656]

Exactly. At this point LIv is already looking forward to prospects this off season. Xander will be the big 🎯

[@arisandrews5672]

Really don’t need to. Sponsors are jumping because the tour is a glorified Korn Ferry event with a few special guest about once a month.

[@paulbrown3396]

They are just stalling waiting for someone to bail them out. It is just a disgrace that the PGA Tour keeps saying things are moving forward when clearly they are not

[@franz289]

Let’s break it down objectively. When 2 big banks merge only 1 name survives. Several redundancies are terminated including upper management and CEO. The remaining Bank takes over all operations including the debt of the other bank that longer has their name. Generally it takes about year of talks and when a final framework is agreed upon, the merger is finalized. Depositors are automatically under the new bank name and operations are ongoing seamlessly. Mirror that with the LIV/PGA merger. Who is merging with whom? Is it LIV to the PGA or PGA to LIV? Who will be the CEO, Greg Norman or Jay Monahan? What format will it follow?, 3 or 4 day tournaments. Obviously all players are back in same basket competing for tournaments which will annoy a lot of PGA players because some turned down offers but that’s another issue and that boat has sailed away when the merger talks began. In the end it just looks like the PGA is more desperate to get this done with them having to control everything as they always have but using LIV’s money.

[@geoffreyhaylor3267]

The pga doesn’t want to lose control

[@09Youba]

At this point in time just forget about any deal. Just enjoy each tour.

[@back9films]

Couldn’t agree more!!

[@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656]

@@back9filmsbut Alex at this point your the only one pushing for answers.

[@steveputland4324]

@@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656don’t know about “pushing for answers” , I would’ve gone with sooking for answers !

[@sportsjunkie2900]

They don’t want a deal because liv is a joke it’s just exhibition golf

[@sportsjunkie2900]

There are reports rahm offered to return all the money to get out of his contract

[@ElliotFunk]

Your comment about attending a LIV golf event in person is interesting. I have watched LIV on TV several times trying to get my head around the TV coverage. All I can say is that watching LIV on TV makes me feel schizophrenic. It is completely impossible to follow any story line. The team aspect is of no interest to me. The shotgun start completely prevents any sense of excitement building up to some kind of victory celebration. The base boom-ba-boom music background sound drives me up the wall. I just can't see the PGA tour adopting any of the LIV format and not loosing a huge percentage of their viewership. I think that deep down Jay Monahan has realized that a merger would cause more harm than benefit to the PGA Tour and is stalling a decision hoping that LIV will die a slow death.

[@charlesbond4413]

I had the exact opposite reaction. I’m tired of the PGA coverage. I felt involved watching LIV. Different folks, different strokes. I just wish they would tolerate each other as I’d like to see the best, PGA, LIV players in a playoff. Like the NRA, the best folks are the instructors, the pros, not the tournament players. The cart was upset, but it was upset by the PGA, not LIV. While LIV might not be the best, it is a child of the PGA shortcomings. In another sense, old men, afraid to let go against modern players, active, involved, aware of the big picture. Jay is an anachronism. Not a bad one, just wrong for 2024 going forward.

[@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656]

The final 6 players in Sunday tee off on 18 and get most of the focus like any golf tournament. Unless someone goes off ahead; which of course they adjust for that. But early in tournaments the way they show a lot more shots is undeniably better. The music is less and less heard on tv.

[@craigcrawford6749]

You can't be that stupid can you? What's the difference between a shotgun start and having groups on all holes during a regular tournament? Does that confuse you? It's golf! One guy hitting a fucking ball. How can that possibly confuse you? The leaderboard is shown all the time.

[@DamWG18]

You couldn't be more wrong

[@jamesgerboc]

​@DamWG18 ...more wrong?

[@tessp100d4]

This merger…. It’s all talk. They are doing nothing. LIV Golf is LIV Golf… I don’t watch the PGA Tour anymore and don’t care at all. It’s LIV Golf and the majors.

[@steveputland4324]

Yep, all we need is a fair system, where the LIV Golfers are able to earn ranking points playing LIV golf ! 🙏👍

[@DamWG18]

Wish more people had your sense

[@Duh_Huh_24]

@@steveputland4324 Plenty of us never watch LIV too. The PGA tour has NOTHING to do with rankings. WGR has worked with all of the other tours to get their events to count in the world golf rankings. For some reason LIV has been unable to get that done. Until they do I can't take them seriously. They buy the talent then try forcing a deal. FAIL. LOL

[@tompetersen001]

Interesting, NEVER watch LIV golf, watch PGA every weekend. LIV golf is a dead end.

[@iec7587]

@@Duh_Huh_24 PGA control the OWGR

[@thierrydubus235]

Certainly a change watching PGA events as all the names we were used to on the top of the leaderboard simply aren't there anymore but with LIV. It will take awhile for the PGA to rebuild heroes and regain their "best golfers" tour image. To then settle this issue (which players are better), we would simply need to create a new event, once or twice a year with the top 50 of each tour playing in a 72 hole competition... A sort of Major major.

[@Duh_Huh_24]

LIV players haven't shown us they are the best golfers yet. Their PGA appearances have been embarrassing. Maybe playing short team based tournaments has them off their game but it is impossible to say that LIV has the best players. Big names, maybe, but with the exception of Bryson none of them can win outside of LIV.

[@stevenorr3196]

Watch what you like, no need for people to be highly critical of either tour. My only issue is sorting the qualification to majors. There are a few PGA tour events I like to watch as there are a few Liv events which is global golf. PGA had the all the best players for a long time, now there is a challenger to diluting their fields and no surprise they are not happy. The BS around 3 or 4 rounds is a yawn, the only real action is generally the last two rounds after the chaff has been trimmed. Me personally, I don't care if they ever reach agreement, it will run it's course whatever that is and as for those talking money, well that's a load of rubbish, I don't see too many on the PGA tour that haven't made a truck load of coin. Live and let live folks, flick the channel if you don't like the offerings.

[@PharCanal_007]

While I agree and enjoyed reading your comment , The continued talk about the Diluting of PGA fields is very much the glass half empty view , How about we look at this from the view of the Game of Golf and the glass half full view..... that is to say that all the players who left the PGAT have 100% allowed their replacements to live out their Dream and they have also 100% Grown the Game. It is also rather insulting to the New players or replacements on the PGAT to suggest that they will NEVER replace a Rahm or Smith or DeChambeau , Who knows these replacements may turn out to be better ie Davis thompson or Michael Thorbjornsen or Nick Dunlap. Like you say if you don't like it then change the channel , it really is that simple 🙂

[@stevenorr3196]

@@PharCanal_007 Yes I agree with your comments, it opens opportunities for others to have a go and new blood is never a bad thing and turnover is much higher in a lot of other sports. There will always be another Rahm, Smith or DeChambeau, it's the cycle of life and that mirrors sport. For the viewer we have the choice of two tours. It's just a pity Jay didn't want to discuss a blended calendar when it was proposed by Norman. But I fully understand the PGA protecting their patch. Live and let Liv I say.

[@jerrykrasinski5836]

I am glad you distinguish discussion and verbal diahorea.

[@tededuncan2306]

LIV needs the Golf Channel to have more viewership.

[@Socks-q9b]

So you went to the JCB event as well? Awesome wasn’t it? We live in NZ and went to it and it was a fantastic event that was so well organised. The PGA have a long way to go to make golf as entertaining as LIV!

[@ajstclair]

as someone who used to practice law, this sounds like someone who used to practice law..badly. if you have a team that blows the initial release of an agreement, you have to replace that team so you can start w/ a clean slate - the fact that monahan is still wandering around is bizarre and inadvisable. the two "no brainer" things you do (if you actually want to move forward) is create a team that is the public face of the agreement, one for PGA, one for LIV, and they meet regularly to show the public that you are serious. also, they can release joint statements that enumerate small items that they have agreed upon, again, as a public sign of good faith. from what i've seen, either the PGA is incompetent (possible) or is just going through the motions because they feel the SSG deal is all they need, good-bye to the top players i guess...

[@PharCanal_007]

Can you shed any Light on how a Non-Profit like the PGA can have investors who are absolutely looking for a return on their investment ? Also How the hell does the CEO of a Non-Profit earn 22.5 million dollars (2023) , this doesn't really fit with Monahan saying "oh we are a charity and we are ALL about helping others" , Maybe he means his close friends who have also done very nicely off the PGA. My read on the situation is... Monahan's Goal seems to be all about Getting his hands onto and very much into the LIV Bank account.

[@DanWessonSpecialist]

Bottom line is the PGA Tour has no intention of a merger and are simply stringing LIV along hoping they will just invest without no say or abandon golf as a business.

[@tonybranson5809]

To create change you need urgency.....Currently no urgency so no change. A few more players to LIV will create the urgency required.

[@TimG2553]

This merger will NEVER happen because they both want two different things LIV has it’s place bringing a different perspective to the old guard golf but so does the PGA keeping it traditions and values

[@DamWG18]

Liv should stay on its own. Meet up at majors.

[@laurab298]

The best players right now are all on the PGA tour. Let LIV go.

[@ramdev5173]

As long as you have player directors like Tiger Woods and Spieth and maybe Cantlay - WHO DO NOT WANT TO TAKE PIF MONEY - then there will NEVER be a merger. This is all a facade on the PGAs side. They pretend they're open to talks and all that but they don't want to accept the PIF as an investor. And after partnering with SSG maybe they don't have to. I think the PGA is absolutely fine with the situation the way it is. And to be honest, I'm fine with it as well.

[@VN9001]

LIV - the three ring circus of golf. 🤣🤣🤣

[@TonyG-nv2km]

LIV golf is worthless. The only two golfers worth watching are Rahm and Bryson. I catch their acts during the majors.

[@rickfromboston]

Jay Monahan has screwed this up from the beginning, he should resign.

[@jacklbrt]

The United States government is involved in this process, the Department of Justice and a Senate subcommittee. Of course this is going to take some time. How could it not given their "oversight" involvement!

[@bonscottrocks1728]

L i v is a joke.... doesn't even seem real looks more like an pro-am than a real tournament. The other issue is the shorts, really? I suppose all the pro sports should just wear whatever they want.... funny thing almost all the golf courses want you to wear a collared shirt but then you look at the amateur Liv folks and no collars... WTF

[@Global_Intelligentsia]

Cantlay must have got that answer from chat gpt

[@stevehenson3325]

If you want to learn how to play in a beer league scramble, then liv is for you. If you wanna watch the best players in the world, you still have to watch the pga.

[@andybt3989]

Except most events on the PGA tour, most events are missing big names. Liv have some of the top players and they are there for every round barring injury. What I noticed at the Liv event at the JCB was the number of youngsters! We need youngsters to boost club numbers as many are struggling!

[@Duh_Huh_24]

What has LIV done to help their position? Nothing. Sure, they paid a bunch of money to get players, but that is irrelevant. They haven't even successfully worked out how to get back on the world golf rankings but we're supposed to take them seriously and the PGA is supposed to do a deal because LIV has the names? LOL. That makes Zero sense. I'd let the deal die if LIV can't take the most basic steps to legitimize themselves.

[@johniacono3317]

They will eventually merge when jay is fired. Jay created this mess, he knows if they merge liv will take all the great players. I say this everytime the pga tour week in and out besides the majors is unwatchable

[@tessp100d4]

Go LIV Golf.

[@Gertzy41]

Does anyone care about Liv golf 😅😅😅😅😅

[@AmitRay47]

PGA and LIV in current form should never be brought together. There is a lot of difference between them. The fundamentals in PGA are strong. They have training programme for boys and girls, they have junior championships for boys and girls. There is a selection procedure to join PGA tours. They are associated with USGA and R&A, with OWGR. The LIV does not have any of them. They just buy players from the market, similar to Slave Trade. It is always welcome to get new ideas. LIV should have consulted with USGA, R%A, and OWGR before they launched a 54 hole system with players bought from the market. They should have started Ladies tournament, juniors tournament. There should have been training schools for boys and girls. Money doesn't buy these things. But LIV could have used the Saudi Money in a much better way and could have commanded respect from the golf world.

[@waynevoss4194]

Uhmmm yeah nothing you said here is true. Rather do you research than making false accusations on something you have no idea about.

[@PepeSilvia503]

Simply……Liv golf sucks! I’m not going to watch a bunch of professional golfers play exhibition golf.

[@kennethmckinney2532]

You have watched a few events on the LIV +app I'm guessing and possibly attended an event?

[@PepeSilvia503]

@@kennethmckinney2532 no why would guess that I watched any event when I literally said I would not watch a exhibition?

[@kennethmckinney2532]

@@PepeSilvia503 so you haven't a clue what you're talking about. Appreciate the confirmation 👍

[@PepeSilvia503]

@@kennethmckinney2532 you’re right Kenny thanks I don’t know what I was thinking.

[@PepeSilvia503]

@@andybt3989 chill out karen

[@davejohn255]

I like that the Arab tour is left hanging. Pretty much dislike most of those players. Glad they are off the tour.

[@chriskleine2690]

They should be left as rival tours. LIV golf is unwatchable because they’re trying to bring artificial excitement to a methodical game. They’ve done the same thing to baseball. The PGA is unwatchable because there are commercials every 5 minutes.

[@kryer981]

Sounds like golf itself is unwatchable.

[@jamesgerboc]

It's like the guys in a golf cart enjoying the sunrise and working on their game are expected to play against guys in the cart with beer playing loud music who only stop telling stories long enough to hit the ball. It's never going to be a pleasant experience.

[@anthonybelham1466]

Don't merge. Each tour has their certain amount of events. Add all Majors and some high profile events say no more than 8 to 10 combined with their tour events, open to all pros, 4 rounds. World ranking points offered to both. Full points for PGAT and 3/4 points for LIV. 🤔🇦🇺🦘🪃🇦🇺🦘🪃