I think it's sad the animosity between Hooky and Barney now. I don't know if they realise the impact they had on people's lives. Even after Ian died, they become something greater. Legends. Ian Curtis. Stephen Morris. Bernard Sumner. Peter Hook. I salute you.
@chrissie98656 жыл бұрын
seanoriordan77 Don't forget Gillian Gilbert
@Conn30Mtenor3 жыл бұрын
All relationships have their own shelf life, just like all things do.
@neilaspin0084 ай бұрын
The relationship was fraught right at the very beginning
@peternagy-im4be4 ай бұрын
Little more than an empty head @@chrissie9865
@chavedappelle5 жыл бұрын
"You're honorbound to grieve for people that are important in your life" That's a really good quote.
@P82909703 жыл бұрын
Brilliant isn't it ? and so true.
@RossBayCult5 жыл бұрын
I met Hooky at a book signing and he’s the real deal. Very grounded, humble and so engaging. My favorite member of both JD & NO. One of the most influential bassists ever.
@alexgasson42796 жыл бұрын
Amazing how young they were to make such an album..
@thewhoman31824 жыл бұрын
Just like the sex pistols. I have no idea how the punk/new wave artists did it
@niallsutherland82243 жыл бұрын
Yep, that blows my mind constantly
@katm66 жыл бұрын
Seeing/hearing Hooky sing Closer two years ago was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. And it was topped off by me getting to meet Hooky after the show. He's a lovely man.
@bonla22756 жыл бұрын
katm6 I get to see him in a few days on the 24th. Buzzing would be an understatement
@conallhomer69623 жыл бұрын
Hooky is a legend. Are saw Peter Hook and the light play. It wasn’t as good as I thought it was gonna be unfortunately, because they didn’t do enough Joy Division songs, they mostly did New Order but I’m still very grateful to have seen what’s left of one of the greatest bands ever, in the flesh.
@YG-qg1hs6 жыл бұрын
I can't think of a more beautiful song than 'Heart and Soul'. An absolute masterclass of an album as a whole.
@thecitizenjoan6 жыл бұрын
Peter Hook saying there’s loads of groups is funny There’ll never be another band like Joy Division.
@The_Angry_BeEconomist6 жыл бұрын
J. Montrice interpol's first album came... close
@The_Angry_BeEconomist6 жыл бұрын
Raven are you having a laugh?
@zookeeper28726 жыл бұрын
Interpol 😆 but certainly, they are not Joy Division
@zookeeper28726 жыл бұрын
@@Pazuzu82 fuck u2! Haha joking, cheers
@zookeeper28726 жыл бұрын
@@Pazuzu82 Yeah they aren't bad. It's just those damn glasses he wears! But I had a few of their albums in the early 90s thanks to Columbia House. Somebody always at least had a U2 cassette somewhere before that. All I Want is You is my favorite song. I just didn't get into them anymore after Zooropa. I had to look it up because I didn't even remember the title of that album. I have to go back and listen to that when I get a chance because what I remember sounds good in my head right now
@vordman4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating interview. Peter Hook tells it how it is, no attempt to mythologise the past like some would.
@vaseofflowers4619 Жыл бұрын
I like Hooky. I liked hearing how his mates from Salford were a bunch of ruffians.
@emmaduncan29916 жыл бұрын
the most underrated bass player in history, he really was Joy Division's MVP!
@RiverOfBlacklights5 жыл бұрын
_"the most underrated bass player in history"_ ... ??? Underrated? The Most? No offense but, you're kidding... right?
@papslap64954 жыл бұрын
I dont think he is underrated Emma. Quite the opposite he is a musicians ' musician if that makes sense Take care Ant P
@briantyson77444 жыл бұрын
@@papslap6495 That is a really nice way to express yourself. Cheers.
@papslap64954 жыл бұрын
@@briantyson7744 Thanks
@papslap64954 жыл бұрын
.m.
@tlkshowhst7 жыл бұрын
So much wisdom here. I had to stop listening to closer. Beautiful album, but far too dark for my health.
@xarve94866 жыл бұрын
hang in there buddy! (no pun intended lol!)
@Vegeta879525 жыл бұрын
I feel the same. I'm only able to listen to Joy Division anymore in small increments. I love the band, but it's taken me to some very dark places.
@scott75215 жыл бұрын
Totally with you. It's too much for me as well. I can only listen to a few songs off that record.
@daveyhando95364 жыл бұрын
xarve weird
@yogiaguiar15484 жыл бұрын
honestly couldnt agree more
@notreyf4 жыл бұрын
Peter Hook, intelligent, articulate and searingly honest.
@vincentwitters74087 жыл бұрын
Still one of my favorite albums ever. The song 'Isolation' sounds like a suicide note from Ian Curtis.
@Pazuzu827 жыл бұрын
Vincent Witters More like 24 hours a would say.
@charleydowd31267 жыл бұрын
Vincent Witters "Isolation" is my favorite Joy Division song. Love the baseline, the drums, and the meaning.
@vincentwitters74087 жыл бұрын
Me too, the lyrics are the most powerfull i have ever heard.
@lancashirebomber97447 жыл бұрын
focus on the purity of the sound.
@extra.nirvana7 жыл бұрын
24 hours is so sad best song by them
@frangarcia77744 жыл бұрын
Peter is not only one of the most distinctive bass players of all time but also a pleasure to listen to. His analysis are always clear, well structured and meaningful. Hats off
@iamsheep7 жыл бұрын
It was really interesting to hear that they wouldn't have changed musically if Ian hadn't died.
@iancurtisspectre37447 жыл бұрын
I can't help but cry when Hooky talked about if Ian had lived, I can't imagine the splendiferousness of that
@Greggorious1235 жыл бұрын
I think they would have become electronic still but I don’t think you’d of had cheesy songs like Thieves like us or shell shock if Ian had lived.
@michaelenglish19924 жыл бұрын
@@Greggorious123 Thieves is the OPPOSITE of cheesey.
@Greggorious1234 жыл бұрын
@@michaelenglish1992 That's your opinion and that's cool. To me it sounds cheesy, and Ian Curtis would never write something like 'Love is found in the east and the west, but when love is at home it's the best' which in my mind is cheesy as hell.
@SomeRandomHobo444 жыл бұрын
@@Greggorious123 the only song I've listened to by New order is true faith so I've got zero context reading this thread of comments, but not gonna lie, that line does sound cheesy...
@eliasiv6 жыл бұрын
decades is the best song ever written
@mislavivkovic99963 жыл бұрын
Atmosfere
@mislavivkovic99963 жыл бұрын
This closer is realy dark i like Uknown pleasures more
@oggabob2 жыл бұрын
That Canada riots guy is a prick
@marguskiis77117 жыл бұрын
Closer was massively influential album during early 80s. Hundreds of bands copied its ideas, secretly off course.
@xfilesfoxisdead79796 жыл бұрын
margus kiis still is influential. Just listen to Interpol or editors
@pixeldirt56106 жыл бұрын
Even in the 2010s bands are still guilty of copying ideas from Closer...listen to 'Flying to Berlin' by Savages then listen to 'Colony' ;)
@zackzallie87352 жыл бұрын
From The Cure, to Interpol, to even The 1975, to Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails, Swans, Moby, Danny Brown, etc. (yikes lots and lots and lots)
@TweedSuit6 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine Power Corruption and Lies with Ian's lyrics and vocals! Blows the mind just thinking about it.
@lukebalika99675 жыл бұрын
househansa No, in my opinion, Bernard’s voice is better for that one, but Ian’s voice might have worked better on Low Life and definitely would’ve worked great on Movement
@Studmasterify7 жыл бұрын
A very eloquent man!
@canderson15226 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear him talk about their entire history...Warsaw to New Order..and everything in between.
@thatfezguy83306 жыл бұрын
C Anderson I recommend his book for that honestly. He wrote a book about their entire history from his perspective, Warsaw to Ian’s death. Funny, intriguing and most importantly honest
@alexpilgrim82486 жыл бұрын
Just picked it up earlier today on CD. Though darker than "Unknown Pleasures", it's also more refined. Great album.
@mcblahflooper947 жыл бұрын
I'm actually really glad Peter Hook "wanted" to be the Sex Pistols. It really adds soooo much to Joy Division.
@barrygreenstein83834 жыл бұрын
This made me quite sad because I am a Joy Division and New Order fan. I knew about Ian Curtis and his struggle with epilepsy but to hear Peter talk about it so frankly was quite enlightening!
@FrankieUtka3 жыл бұрын
40 years of Closer!!!! The album is literally somebody's whole SOUL just WEEPING & POURING OUT. One of the most beautiful pieces of music in modern history. They really had a once in a lifetime dream team- TWICE!!! Legendary, everyone! Rest easy, Ian. I hope you realize HOW MANY PEOPLE hold onto hope now BECAUSE of the music you helped create✨
@thecitizenjoan6 жыл бұрын
The blokes a living legend
@plev107 жыл бұрын
Beautiful interview. Love ya, Hooky!
@vandolmatzis81466 жыл бұрын
hooky, an eloquent gentleman Thank you
@mike1962127 жыл бұрын
His book on JD is great: honest,candid,poignant and even funny. It's fairly recent. Another interesting read on JD and early NO is called AN IDEAL FOR LIVING. I bought it back in 1985.
@Vesnicie7 жыл бұрын
Mike Poitras I liked it too. Hooky's the kind of guy I'd like to sit down for a pint with.
@mike1962127 жыл бұрын
Snuggles: I agree. There isn't the slightest bit of guile in him. I think he admitted to losing as many fights as he won while taking on unruly crowds threatening the band. Nice chap.
@katm66 жыл бұрын
An Ideal for Living was my first Joy Division book.
@nelsonorange715 жыл бұрын
Mike Poitras who wrote An Ideal for Living
@sosidecop645 жыл бұрын
Ian Curtis: Too young, too soon. RIP. His music lives on.
@Skott1966 Жыл бұрын
Love Peter Hooks's honesty about it all. The end of the interview really says it all.
@spkelse86776 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful album. I love every song. I listen to it when I'm sad, and it lifts me up, somehow. I listen to it when I'm happy, and it fills me up. It's one of those records I will never grow tired of. I just hate that Ian suffered so, and his loved ones suffered after his suicide. Pain drives creativity, but it can also make life unbearable. I'm grateful for what Ian gave us through his music and expression.
@funkmike7 жыл бұрын
Very English the way they handled Ian 's suicide--pushing it down, as he says, and basically living in denial. Perhaps that was the right thing to do. But I agree with his main point that the band was going to go on and develop in the direction that they did with New Order.
@AlmaSoul3056 жыл бұрын
There will never be another joy division, never
@BigH0b06 жыл бұрын
Beautiful interview. A classic example of the wisdom age and experience bring. Closer is just about the only soulful pop record I have ever heard, in fact, deeper than your soul...
@wanneske19697 жыл бұрын
Great interview. Peter Hook seems like a nice guy, I always thought he was a prick, cashing in with JD and NO "covers", but he wrote the songs, and Barney the nice guy, but it seems I was wrong. JD and NO rule.
@giovanniscardetta333 Жыл бұрын
Voice of honesty and balance. Upstanding and straight shooter guy.. The four of them together have been something unique an magic
@marguskiis77117 жыл бұрын
Joy Division played "Closer" songs in their live shows 1979 -- 80.
@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter43716 жыл бұрын
He means once it was released. Curtis died before it came out.
@raymondhartmeijer93004 жыл бұрын
@@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371 it's still an odd comment from Hooky, indeed Colony and Atrocity were played from around the time UP came out mid 79. Or maybe they were planning on performing the LP as a set in the US, with some older songs as encores
@marguskiis77113 жыл бұрын
@@raymondhartmeijer9300 most of Closer songs were played by JD live.
@zackzallie87353 жыл бұрын
@@marguskiis7711 You said it once, why said it again?
@shanetreacy59964 жыл бұрын
I met New Order in a pub on Dorset Street in Dublin just before their gig.Great bunch of lads and they told me the riff for Love will tear us apart came about when Ian heard his father playing it on a church organ!!!
@jeliceinchains5 жыл бұрын
So honest, wise and eloquent guy..
@nealspence29466 жыл бұрын
very very well said. RIP Ian
@MrLepatrouilleur6 жыл бұрын
Brillant comments, great watch, great clothes, great boots, sensitive humor... Such an elegant lad.
@johntrickey41884 жыл бұрын
I love you Peter, your honesty is beautiful .
@OldMod673 жыл бұрын
Decades, what a beautiful song.
@laurenpaterson34756 жыл бұрын
He sounds great guy he had too much for one young man to deal woth
@christophernickel66982 жыл бұрын
That is the most mature and enlightened way to look at the whole situation.
@keesvanharen97914 ай бұрын
Beautiful spoken, straight from the heart ❤️
@zookeeper28726 жыл бұрын
I lost a friend to suicide and I totally get what you're saying at five and a half minutes. There's always that frustration and disappointment in what they decided to do. If only they would have asked. It really sucks at all the things you realized in hindsight
@KraftWerk19805 жыл бұрын
I love Ian Curtis and joy division they were one of the deepest bands...I feel so bad he had a horrible illness the most talented people seem to
@ashquinn95086 жыл бұрын
Peter Hook is such a lovely and articulate man.
@PW-le6cr3 жыл бұрын
People always talk of Unknown Pleasures but Closer truly is the superior album
@I-Love-Taylor-Swift3 ай бұрын
Wow - I could listen to Peter Hook all day!
@paulmurphy55476 жыл бұрын
Saw Hooky last weekend at The Shine On Weekender at Minehead with his band The Light! Absolutely fantastic! Gave me chills hearing him do Joy Division songs
@jermyhopkisn96545 жыл бұрын
Really frustrates and saddens me to hear him talk about what might have been with Joy Division, that they would have stayed together. Such a shame about Ian.
@CubeduBorg4 жыл бұрын
Wow. This was great. Well said. All of it.
@stephendallison14652 жыл бұрын
Some of the best music ever as in original and Martin Hannett's engineering was mind blowing at the time and still holds its own today. Had the honour of seeing them 2nd to last gig before Ian's Passover.
@stephenloflin47723 жыл бұрын
It's great that Peter can document these years.
@andrewhamilton63424 жыл бұрын
That sofa is severely underrated!
@wetjon4 жыл бұрын
I remember when it came out.. a lot of people I knew wouldn't listen to it, especially alone.. 24 Hrs still gives me chills...
@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp5 жыл бұрын
Peter Hook is a wonderful soul! His music hs guided my life.
@Boric782 жыл бұрын
What an interview - fascinating and he comes across very well. Somone I would like to have a pint with.
@josephsmall4270 Жыл бұрын
It is a beautiful album. My favorite song on it was "Decades".
@caio201187 жыл бұрын
now there's a cool guy
@mikeroberts5104 жыл бұрын
Wonderful beautiful album.
@MosherBearАй бұрын
I saw Peter's band do both Unknown Pleasures and Closer, plus other JD/NO numbers at the Tramshed in Cardiff last year and it was awesome.
@andrewfarrell61206 жыл бұрын
Power, Corruption, and Lies as a Joy Division Album ... a powerful thought.
@larsrunkvist84344 жыл бұрын
You made the greatest music the greatest texts i Am so sorry for ian's passing. Sincerely Lars Runkvist
@patrikgabrielsson21356 жыл бұрын
Underrated album.
@johnusmany2569 Жыл бұрын
JD to me is directly connected to the Eighties when British ( mainly New Wave Bands ) conquered the world and made some of the best music we can still enjoy today because they ( Siouxsie and the Banshees, the Simple Minds, Talk Talk, Depeche Mode, The Cure, The Sisters of Mercy, New Model Army, The Mission etc. etc. ) were amazingly good. At that period JD was my favorite and only afterwards when I got older I realized why...It had a certain emotion 💓 in the Music I could relate to.
@Shatterhaven5 жыл бұрын
39 years today, rip ian
@crypttonite Жыл бұрын
he definitely sings it as close to Ian as possible. He was on the same wavelength.
@veerchasm16 жыл бұрын
Poignant Hook. Thank you
@SleepMeditationandAffirmations4 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine in 2020 paying to see New Order without Hook.
@FrankieUtka3 жыл бұрын
Gotta go see The Light instead! 😭
@Sdea19039 ай бұрын
I would give my right ball to hear Ian Curtis sing Blue Monday.
@GarryShepherdDreamGazePostPunk Жыл бұрын
Forever in our hearts Ian💙🎹🔥🥁🎸🔥
@calintentagency59014 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Mate, give yourself a hug. You are amazing
@ustheserfs11 ай бұрын
this is hooky with perfect retrospect. it's not sugar coated, it's not legend, its the elder version putting perspective on the younger version. never an easy task but he's right, closer was an album that deserved to be heard but especially with ian at the front.
@marcpadilla10942 жыл бұрын
Love the Ian dancing with myself dance. Love is a suicidal tendency. Co dependency, the that 'Witch' made you breaks you creative edge that many artists become victims of.
@checkyourhead37 Жыл бұрын
Such brutal candor. Awesome.
@macnasty76056 жыл бұрын
never seen annik pic before..
@dartmouthhoop6 жыл бұрын
hot
@KillerBill19536 жыл бұрын
No internet or camera phones then. He did try to hide his affair from Debbie at first and the media didn't seem to make much of it as I recall.
@sylvainrichard66795 жыл бұрын
Jim McGonigle as Steve ( or Barney ? ) use to say : The sophisticated girl !..
@daveyhando95364 жыл бұрын
I’d love to be lucky enough to have a pint with hook
@simondiamond70703 жыл бұрын
I did. At the gig he's talking about, Salford Quays. A really great, down to earth guy. The gig was mindblowing. A highlight of my life.
@suttonzoe85 жыл бұрын
My husband has epilepsy and had a fit tonight first time if seen a seizure and it's so fucking scary I'm not the better of it
@chloedoesshit26595 жыл бұрын
Zoe Omara sorry to hear that :(
@Conn30Mtenor Жыл бұрын
The range of treatment options for epilepsy have advanced a lot since the late 1970's. The new medications came too late for poor Ian though.
@Alun492 жыл бұрын
Closer remains a towering achievement and an album I struggle to listen to because of its stark, agonising beauty. New Order where very good, but had Joy Division continued? Had Curtis lived? What might they have done?
@yannilaurel37816 жыл бұрын
You have to hear ''Passover'' on vinyl, or at least tape [fully analogue] Because there is a ''wh-whip - Whuh-whup'' sound of a drum.. Before CD's we could not identify it as a drum You feel it in your ears more than hear it, even on a cheap sound system.
@hennessyorama5 жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking
@perzonne63022 жыл бұрын
That's some deep shit right there
@dayman70846 жыл бұрын
Closer & Faith/Pornography by The Cure are audio depression to the extreme. Very beautiful none the less.
@lukebalika99675 жыл бұрын
Day man yes, don’t forget Disintegration
@joedec4 жыл бұрын
Especially Pornography. That album is not for people who want sunshine and rainbows.
@galetinm3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say Disintegration belongs in that group, but Seventeen Seconds does in my opinion.
@cynthianovoselsky35118 ай бұрын
U helped me in every way ❤2024
@romanlisyukov67872 жыл бұрын
I really liked Hooky’s take on suicide and it’s beauty
@eyesopen666 жыл бұрын
I'm a 52yr old Mancunian, who grew up in and have always and still live in Manchester. I'm lucky that Joy Division/New Order, The Smith's and too a lesser degree Ian Brown, Monday's, Doves, Oasis et al have been the soundtrack too my life, from teenage year's onwards.... I used to absolutely love JD/NO (and Smiths) I still really like their music, without the fanaticism of youth, though! I'm sure that it was Barney, who was the main culprit of the arguments and the split? Not Hooky and the other two? I bet he could be a right self important twat, at times? Anyway? Thanks for the music... Sunrise. True Faith Too many too mention Tbh.
@stephendallison14652 жыл бұрын
Manchester has had a array of good bands . Take too long to mention them all but I love Manchester for the music . I'm from Nottingham and a huge JD and The FALL fan .
@johngammon963 Жыл бұрын
There'll never be another Joy Division x
@masteryeet36004 жыл бұрын
I imagine all the help that we have today in terms of mental health, if that help was around in the late 70s, early 80s. Ian would’ve lived.
@DoroteoVilla11 ай бұрын
If the multiverse exists, I desperately want to visit the one where Ian Curtis lives and Joy Divison makes Power Corruption and Lies. I would be satisfied just with a proper recording of Ceremony by JD. I would stay in that universe.
@kaduisaui45962 жыл бұрын
I love that couch
@scott75215 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness Martin Hannett won out and JD were not The Sex Pistols 2.0. That would have been another tragedy.
@simondiamond70703 жыл бұрын
Pete used to be into heavy rock in the seventies. Add that to your comment and things would have been different indeed.
@shanetreacy59964 жыл бұрын
I always believed Curtis left copybooks of song lyrics behind which New Order used on such songs as Blue Monday but I don’t know.
@stephendallison14652 жыл бұрын
He did
@alexjewell23513 жыл бұрын
And this is exactly why you've gotta love Hooky.
@rachelar8 ай бұрын
Saw him play Closer in 2011
@loombaron5 жыл бұрын
lots of groups but joy division was unique
@martinsmith60494 жыл бұрын
So fucking sad. I think Im a hard bastard... I was in Mostar in 1992. This stuff hits me.
@leothelion60756 жыл бұрын
Still kinda strange to me that the other band members never listened to Ian's lyrics and suspected anything was wrong this whole time. I mean, come on...