Joy Division - The Grave of Ian Curtis and More 4K

[@ianprice6006]

Bruv, Ian Curtis is one of our fallen heros. His music maybe dark to some but it's the sound of an age to others. R.I.P. Ian. You are missed.

[@jonnyjaywick]

I'm 57. My best friend, Nick, was a huge Joy Division fan, and introduced me to them at the age of 13 with Unknown Pleasures. Nick was 17 when he ended his life on 18th May 1984. No one saw it coming. if we had, Im sure we could have changed things. I couldnt listen to them for quite a time after he passed. Now, I listen to Joy Division, and Im taken back to those days, before Nick died. Its a mixed emtotion experience. I often wonder what Nick would be doing now.

[@lemonlime8949]

Rest in peace, both Ian and Nick.

[@jonnyjaywick]

thank you, mate. @@lemonlime8949

[@standup2982]

I’m so sorry for the loss of your friend, Nick.

[@jonnyjaywick]

@@standup2982 40 years in a few weeks. Im pretty sure he would have been down with Grimmlifecollective.

[@jeffsims8270]

Geez, homie - that's rough! So sorry for your loss.😢Perhaps you and others coulda changed things if yal was aware of the darkness that plagued Nick. Maybe coulda seeked some sort of help with whatevs brought on that permanent decision. But in some cases, there isn't much that could be done. I'm not hinting that this is anything like what Nick was feeling, but there are some peeps that are just doomed from the start. 💀

[@thaispereiralucatelli840]

I've lived in Manchester for 2 years and it's still hard to believe I walk the same places as Ian Curtis

[@boney1]

I was lucky enough to see them live in concert twice 1979 and 1980 ....excellent video.... Thanks

[@k-woff8116]

It is a heartbreaking story of his. I love Joy division. If Ian could only see what an influence he and the boys had on music. I will always miss Ian. 🖤

[@prime1collector792]

Truly heartbreaking. Yet his influence has been so far reaching I'd like to think he can see from up above. Cheers

[@davidniehaus202]

Michael grimm would you fulfill my request by visiting the grave of John philip sousa please and you are a sweet kind guy on youtube 🎃🎃

[@bolzonigiorgio8116]

Thank you for this emotional tour in the places of Joy Division. Met their music in 1981 and the were accompaning me in all these years. Listen to their music, it is so great. Look at Control is a beautiful film.

[@jonnyjaywick]

Ive thought that too. If Ian had known what an inspiration he would become, he may have kept himself alive.

[@stmn346]

I don’t think the music was sad or depressing. I think it’s beautiful and emotive. Great video !! Love Joy Division !! Rip Ian

[@rubygirl214]

Stunning band. I highly recommend So This Is Permanence the book with all his lyrics

[@discreetelite]

A lot of Ian's lyrics were definitely "depressing", but I agree they were still beautiful.

[@jamiecloughgaming25387]

You do have to be in the right mood for it though!

[@kurtwaldheim4048]

24 Hours is kind of depressing in retrospect.

[@strangus]

Joy Division's music is timeless.

[@healthyeating4085]

My band rehearsed in the same warehouse as joy division. They were upstairs and we were below them. They used to rehearse every Sunday and the bass guitar was very loud.

[@karljanus8308]

Aye..whatever, son:))

[@azrael666ethereal]

The house, to the right of the door is the living room. The window to the left is the other room where Ian would spend time writing lyrics, ect.. The kitchen is on the back of the house and joins onto the living room. You see the layout in the movie Control as they used the actual house for filming.. Love and miss Ian. Love this video! Thank you.

[@genkinks]

“How I wish you were here with me now.” 🖤 The years just fly, but I still find Ian iconic in so many ways. Thanks for sharing

[@izabelazak2391]

I live in Macc for 16 years.Visited Ian's grave multiple times. Love to seeing you here❤❤❤

[@AerrinT80]

Transmission is SUCH a good song!

[@thiscorrosion900]

Dance dance dance dance dance to the radioooooo

[@treeduck3705]

My sister was a big Joy Division/New Order fan. She died in 2012.

[@Sergiocrivelin]

Such a sad story. I had a friend which had depression, we never knew, he always was smiling and never said a word about his condition, one day, he was found hanged in his bedroom, he was 18. Another person close of mine, tried to take her life 3 times, she also suffers from severe depression, again, she never shares her feelings with no one. Please guys, if you are suffering from depression, TALK to someone, that will make you feel much better and cherish the beautiful live you have. Depression is like a curtain blocking your sight and talking is like opening this curtain letting the light come in. 😊

[@leob4403]

It's much harder than that. You have to talk to people you have some sort of connection and empathy with. It's not enough to talk to any random person

[@BIASED_YOUTUBE]

Joy Division were and are an incredible band. Ian Curtis was a great writer. one of my top 5. one of the things I really like about being a musician here in the UK is a share something with Joy Division. my first london gig was at the Hope & Anchor too, and I've always loved that fact as a fan.

[@voreshbo7031]

Totally agree, and new order ♥️

[@paulmcdonough1093]

i was there to

[@BM-qw8hy]

Their music was very dark and depressing though. It is like being tortured when listening to. Or it's like watching a violent dark depressing film. Both don't make you feel good. I could never listen to that music.

[@andrewgurney6019]

My home city and a wonderful tribute to Mr Curtis, thank you.

[@willfade7994]

Thank you for going to visit Ian Curtis. Up until now, I didn’t know where his final resting place is. Ian’s story still gets to me. Suicide is never the answer no matter how bad things seem. All things pass. How tragic and so sad that he felt that hopeless. I will always love Joy Division. I’m loving your European videos. Safe journeys to you both. RIP Ian. You won’t be forgotten. 🌹

[@websurfer5772]

I think his illness was the main reason, and that wasn't going to just pass, but they probably have better meds for it now.

[@channe3049]

He was a victim of suicide due to various reasons. He had suffered from epileptic disorder and the medication at that time was very poor, plus his disorder progressively got worse overtime due to the amount of pressure from constant touring as the band became more and more successful, he had failed marriage because he accidentally fell in love with another girl, causing his wife mistreated and such.

[@websurfer5772]

@@channe3049 Thank you for clarifying more about that.

[@JOOLSBH07]

My dad has played joy division since I was young and I do believe they are one of the greatest bands

[@gwenpigeon7016]

I have to say... The UK has some of the most beautiful churches I have ever seen. And cemetery's. I also have to say... I never heard of this band nor the tragic outcome of their lead singer. My 🙏 go out to his family and all who knew him and fans alike. Thank you tho for bringing his memory alive again. I'm so going to watch the movie. control. To better understand ❤️🙏

[@BizarreBazaar_YT]

I am just around the corner... thanks for covering :)

[@rosemarymcgrory-eb2gd]

Hello Micheal And Jessica .. I hope your both enjoying, your visit to the uk 🇬🇧 sorry about the chilly 🥶 weather This is a very sad video about Ian Curtis .. it’s always Heartbreaking 💔 when someone dies so young

One year ago me and my husband did the same path that you guys did in Manchester, amazing 🖤 we went also in London, Whitby for the festival, Liverpool, Chester, Bristol, etc and Scotland. What a trip!!!!

[@andyparnham7542]

I’ve been watching your content for years now, and Hollywood seems like a million miles away to me. I can’t believe that you were just in Macclesfield, only 60 miles away from my home. That blows my mind! 😊

[@SaintMartins]

This video means a lot to me. I first heard Joy Division in 1988 when they released Substance which re-issued their debut "An Ideal For Living" ep & non-album singles together. Been a fan since then. I find it weird that Ian Curtis & Chris Cornell (Soundgarden) died on the same date May 18 & by the same method.

[@jumofi]

Same as me. I was only 13 those days…

[@artrogue4150]

Joy Division / New Order amazing music. Nothing like Joy Division. Recently nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, they fell short of votes in 2023 hopefully the next time many of you will remember Ian and vote for them.

[@lemurdream]

Ian was one of the greatest lyricists to ever live. You can just sit and read his lyrics even without music and still be leveled.

[@kaymad143]

Very sad story, I lost my Dad to suicide and I found him. It is something I think of every day, my Dad died in January 1990. I feel awful for his family and friends. Hopefully, Ian Curtis is free from his demons.

[@wheelhouse5793]

Joy Division 👌 absolutely the best, Ceremony will be my song when I pop off!! It touches my soul 👏👏🇬🇧

[@ellaxracz]

I live in Macclesfield... you are literally on my doorstep... !!!!!Still not yet visited Ian's grave...

[@synthzz9178]

My mate's father introduced me to lots of incredible bands : Einsturzende Neubauten, Throbbing Gristle, Black Flag, Siouxsie and a bunch of italian oldschool postpunk/goth and punk hc ...i wasn't aware of Joy Division but he kept telling my mate to play Joy Division for me - that their records were his favourites. I wish i could shake hands and tell him how grateful i am, Unknown Pleasures and the singles literaly changed my life. This happened in the first months of 1993 - and i am still exploring the underground scenes of the 80s from all over the world.

[@marklawson1773]

Excellent video. Ian Curtis was ahead of his time, a wonderful writer and performer. Manchester has produced so many wonderful bands from The Smiths, the Stone Roses, Oasis through to Joy Division. Manchester really has led the UK in music and some would say it started with Joy Division.

[@williamjohnbedford5776]

Never knew you are JOY DIVISION fans, my RESPECT has gone up for you A MILLION PERCENT, BEEN MY FAVOURITE BAND FOR YEARS NEVER EVER BE ANOTHER FRONTMAN LIKE THE GREAT, IAN KEVIN CURTIS, THANKS AGAIN, ALL THE BEST, WILL AND ELAINE, LEEDS, WEST YORKSHIRE, ENGLAND. 🇮🇲👍🇮🇲

[@brendaw53]

Even sadness history should not be forgotten. Mental and depression is painful. We ask Why, but we weren’t living his pain. The church was beautiful and seeing the areas he traveled was poignant. Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts. Be safe…❤

[@jefferylewislittlefield4876]

Good morning, Grimms, From Kentucky. Again your passion and storytelling are as good as any on KZbin. My thought is that both of your real folks who are following the dreams of your lives, nothing more than pure love of the story. Be safe

[@gregphillips.1312]

The Voice of the late, great John Peel making the announcement, another lost Treasure!

[@angeliquegrijalva4208]

Thank you for talking about Ian Curtus and talking about Joy Division !! 🖤🦇🖤💀🖤🕯 Love Joy Division !! Their music always felt akin to my own soul. So glad you visited Ian!!!🖤🦇🖤

[@random22026]

Grimm does it again: ADORE your scrupulous attention to detail, when matching-up scenes from the past with the hurly-burly present. You got everything right. Thank you, again, for the respectful tribute. I do hope you are able to pinpoint the 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' music video location, which felt eerie without sound...only an opening door, with the graffito 'Ian C' scratched into its surface. Crazy cool, indeed.

[@baronsaturday2103]

That rehearsal space which isn't there anymore, like many places in Manchester.. No more grim '70s.

[@jonahharpoon2]

I was in a band in 1979. We where rehearsing with another band for an up and coming gig. One of the band members had the keys to Joy Divisions rehearsal room. So in we went and had a look around. It was near Broughton baths Salford. where McDonald's is now. Or close by. An old mill long demolished.

[@stargazer4625]

Love Joy Division. .. RIP Ian. This video is going to get 100,000s of views. 👍

[@Tobz.X]

Be sad to see you guys leave the UK. Hope you've had an amazing time here! Love you guys ❤🎉

[@piotrods]

One of the greatest and most pioneering bands in relatively recent history. No other band has been so influential as Joy Division with only two studio albums. I enjoy New Order too but I often wonder how Joy Division would sound like today if Ian was still around. Thanks for sharing this video from a huge Joy Division fan! Also, I'm really enjoying your England videos. Keep up the great work.

[@trentdawg2832]

The simple 1978-1979 plaque is what does it for me….if you know, you know!!……….plus i was born amongst those yrs

[@Muesli711]

I remember reading a piece about Kevin Cummings and this famous photoshoot. He said that as film was so expensive at the time, he really took care not to waste a single photo. That so many iconic images of JD come from this single session is a testament to Cummings' skill.

[@dermot2747]

Delighted to see you both having such a great visit to Europe. I love Joy Division and always wondered what success they would've had globally had he lived.

[@gregphillips.1312]

Loved "Joy Division" and "New Order" growing up. So glad you covered this ❤

[@voreshbo7031]

My favourite singer and band ❤ Ceremony! This is going to be epic! Hope you to still enjoy the north. ❤ Rip Ian

[@voreshbo7031]

I never ever clicked so fast 😅❤

[@iankirkpatrick1875]

@@voreshbo7031me too

[@voreshbo7031]

@grimlifecollective ♥️ joy Division and new order ! 👌

[@wubeyonekenobi4708]

This is awesome: not just Curtis’ grave, but a great tour around my home City: the band means so much to us here. It’s a pity you didn’t make it Stockport: lots more pictures, and Strawberry Studios where Unknown Pleasures was recorded - about 12 miles out of Manchester. The Boardwalk was legendary and just around the corner from the even more legendary Hacienda.

[@thisluckygirl]

Such a tragic story. 💔 I love Joy Division and would like to visit Ian's grave someday but don't know if that'll ever happen. Thank you for taking us there with you.

[@erniethered]

Interesting thing of note: Ian’s daughter was in the movie, Control. She can be seen yelling “fuck off” or something to that effect during the concert scene. I’ve also heard that Deborah Curtis was very helpful herself in the making of the film. 💜

[@martinbuckenham3651]

Hey guys… I’m blown away!! Not only was I born and live in Manchester but I work in Macclesfield!! I can’t believe you visited my local area. Manchester music is the best and as a huge fan of the grim life collective it’s amazing your so close!! Thank you always for your awsome content!!

[@paulmcdonough1093]

liverpool is the best music be honest

[@martinbuckenham3651]

@@paulmcdonough1093 Ill give you the Beatles but I dont think you can compare any other...The Smiths, The Stone Roses, Happy Mondays, Oasis, the list goes on! Im a big fan of a lot of Liverpool bands though, Great City for Music!!

[@violetstarla]

Joy Division is one of my favorite bands from the 80s. You guys cover the best stuff! Love your England stories and adventures this season. Your spirit and energy are always magnetic...you're both so cute together. I look forward to every video.

[@Melinda_B62]

Oh wow. I never would have dreamed you’d take us to Ian Curtis & Joy Division sites. This one really flew all over my heart. I’ve always found their music & their history to be gut-wrenching, there’s a place inside of us that they take us where no others possibly can. I can’t even explain it. I hesitated to watch this because I knew it would hurt, but I’m so glad I did. After a beautiful sunny midwest Autumn day yesterday, as I’m watching this today the sky is overcast & the air is misty. Apropos. Thank you for this, Grimms.🖤 Jessica you are absolutely beautiful, even in the midst of a cold England day.🙂

[@iio58]

Haha now way are you in my home town. Wish I’d have known I’d have paid you a visit. Yep, half my family are buried near Ian, I know his daughter Natalie. The shot in the movie Control of the crem where many of my friends and family went :( My mate lived next door to Ian’s house and says he woke up sometimes to crowds paying homage to Ian on anniversary’s. Very little of the film was shot here, the streets where he worked and his house are Macclesfield and a couple of other shots but other parts showing his flat was Nottingham because the flats he grew up in (Victoria) were demolished many years ago (thank god, it was a hellhole). Did make me laugh how Sam Riley and Samantha Morton spent time hanging out in pubs in Macc listening to the accents trying to get them right in time for the movie. Wished I’d have seen Samantha in the boozer - I’d have passed out from shock haha :) The employment exchange turned into the Driving Licence Test Centre. It’s harder I took my driving test. I also re created the bridge photos when I paid homage haha. It’s obligatory! The bridge is a few mins away from the site of The Russell Club where they did their first gigs

[@stevieandrew9008]

Fantastic music that defined an iconic movement in Manchesters music legacy… born & bred Mancunian lass here that loves music & Manchester ❤ thank you for covering this one ☝🏻 Jess & Michael x

[@jeremyking3986]

Imagine all the Music we didn’t get to hear after we lost him. It’s definitely dark and takes you to a dark place, I listened on repeat to every song a couple of years ago when I went through my divorce. No wonder I was suicidal 🤷🏻‍♂️. But I found hope and life is good today🙏

[@ryanhartley7896]

Hi I live in Southampton England UK, joy Division were a bit part of my youth , as was New Order after Ian died , so glad your visiting our country, be safe enjoy guys Ryan and Anna ❤

[@iankirkpatrick1875]

Joy Division was a Phenomenal band I liked new order too

[@MozWilde]

"Surrender to self-preservation From others who care for themselves A blindness that touches perfection But hurts just like anything else" Thank you for this video. ❤Ian Curtis. Happy Halloween!

[@Satsuma1]

Isolation,isolation,isolation,isolation

[@batesyboy3925]

Manchester my neck of the woods , great to see you guys exploring manchesters musical heritage great episode guys 👍👍

[@tjacobemxw109]

Grimm life does such an amazing job! Lots of details and history and respect for what we watch. I have enjoyed this channel for many years from the horror, to videos like these

[@Kevw55]

Great to see you both in England another well informed stream amazing you 2 are

[@Josiris218]

Dead Souls is one of my all time favorite songs!!! Joy Division are easily among my top 5-10 favorite bands. Thank you for sharing this!!!!!!! You guys rock!!!❤

[@mancunianinlondon]

You were literally so close to my office. I wish I knew you guys were here. Lovely to see you enjoying our drizzly weather. Very apt for your visit to see Ian Curtis grave. Lovely to have you visit our little country

[@robintropper660]

What a beautiful place! Be it downtown, the university or residential areas ... so much prettier than most big cities.

[@darrenplatt2162]

Amazing to see you both in my hometown of Manchester , I am a stone mason and made a lot of the newer memorials in the Macclesfield cemetery you visited, the cremation stones were mainly made from York stone, and you lease the plot for so many years “usually” , I love my work and making the last piece for the families 😉 enjoy your stay ❤

[@tomico9154]

Never thought I'd see you turn up in Manchester. Welcome to(imo) the best city in the world.

[@michaelenechase]

Seeing Michael be such a fanboy is charming. Absolutely love you both. Thank you for sharing this with us.

[@simonpartington8694]

Guys, I've been watching you for years and I thought your Buddy Holly film was touching, but to see you both in my home town of Manchester covering the legend Ian Curtis has blown me away. He was a tragic soul, a genius. Thank you 💙

[@dmp0x]

Thanks for making this video. Joy Division was such an important band to me growing up. I still will put Unknown Pleasures on my record player at least once a month.

[@joiedevivre2005]

What could've been... Thank you for sharing your visit with us.

[@funkybeans7083]

Brilliant video. I used to work in Macclesfield and parked my car outside Ian Curtis's house where he hanged himself. I also visited his grave. A very surreal experience. I live in Sandbach not far from Macclesfield. Lots of historical and medieval spots to explore around here.

[@bobbannerman4408]

Just went see New Order Live 3 weeks ago in Glasgow 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 there oncore was all Joydivison songs

[@piscesempress1978]

Great video !!! I love Joy Division, also love New Order. Its weird, I know but I somehow feel comforted listening to Joy Division because I know hey I am not alone, someone else feels this as well. Thank you for sharing your experiences, I got to see Ian's grave when I was in the UK in March, It was a sombre and very sad feeling seeing it.

[@alanhigginson7679]

I live and breathe joy division from the first time I saw them on there last concert at high hall Birmingham 2nd may 1980 from then on I collected everything to do with this band I also visited is grave twice there will never be another Ian Curtis or joy division I'm 62 and I still play there music r.i.p ian

[@vtec-619]

Joy division true Legend one of my favorite songs ever play it over and over "love will tear us apart"🙏

[@VanessaButtino]

Control is one of my all-time favourite films. It’s phenomenally good and the cast was absolutely terrific ❤

[@jasongott1094]

It's so sad to think that he killed himself because of his epilepsy and how worried he was about performing and (more importantly) possibly hurting his daughter. A few years later and medication could have helped him. Great video, thank you!

[@christiandunnet3579]

Thank you so much, you honnered him very well. Ian Curtis RIP, you will always be missed.

[@Plaw01]

Great video. Great band. Yes the weather here has taken an unusual turn for the worst the last couple of weeks.

[@VitoC.]

AS A BIG JOY DIVISION FAN, THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO. HAPPY FOR YOU TO EXPERIENCE IT...MAYBE ONE DAY FOR ME

[@cjljackson]

I can’t believe you’ve just been to Manchester. It would have been amazing to meet you and maybe show you around a bit . You’re doing an amazing job. Keep up the good work 🖤

[@mkyboy]

I never thought i'd see you touring my home town in a million years - such a fan. Keep it up. Amazing

[@DrJDGood]

Thank you for this. Joy Division were so influential nationally and on the Manchester scence. The paved the way for so many. Also check out the film 24 Hour Party People

[@SHERRY0010]

Joy Division never got any air play in Calgary . I only knew about it because someone I knew back then listened to them . Yes, the music was very dark . I only listened to them one time. I also heard some of the elements of their music in Nirvanas music . But not to the point of the bleakness of Joy Division . The person I knew back then , took their own life on New Years Eve 1999. We used to go to high school together . He always seemed very depressed, even back then . He hung himself in a barn on the family farm . It’s a terrible thing when someone takes their own life, especially leaving behind a child and a wife . Those pillars of that church you were in reminded me of that ancient city of Petra . Those columns in front of what was known as “the bank”. Thank you for yet another educational vlog . 👍👍👍

[@djbillye4943]

"a bygone era that has not gone bye"i listen to joy division everyday,helps me break up my depression and i smile at times.

[@gruftwurm7375]

Amazing video! Ian Curtis never forget! Love u guys

[@Hauntworld]

You're the greatest story teller! So happy to see what else comes from your England trip!

[@jerimiahjohnson4645]

Amazing church. Loved the trivia about the band. Happy Halloween 🎃

[@golfhk]

guys, i am so moved that you guys are JD fans too. Cheers

[@ElkeMB]

Sad story, he died too young! Loved the cathedral and your photo with Jessica. Amazing work Michael. Thank you

[@catherineflanagan1587]

Loved joy division thankyou both for this.Ian Curtis will always be missed😔

[@NG_____]

🖤 “Watching love grow - forever” 🖤

[@toddherbert9192]

Thank you so much for this video! Brought tears to my eyes. My dream is to visit Manchester some day. So many great bands come from Manchester. I was lucky enough to meet Hooky a few years back. Thanks again for all that you two do!

[@mrsmaggiesmyth1906]

Just up the road from me! Thank you Michael and Jessica for an amazing video as always. Happy Halloween 🎃 Jessica brightens a cold English day 🍁❤️🍂

[@kyleechristina1231]

Ah I missed the notification for this! Ah the sadness! Omg I could cry! I’m so so sorry besties! Watching now!!!

[@MrEaglesfan40]

Great video That was such a beautiful church Happy Halloween stay safe guys 👻

[@francisdv]

You two visit the best places!! So glad I found you.

[@petercarter1019]

Absolutely love how much of my homeland you're seeing, and how much you're enjoying it.

[@johnwalters4792]

It's a sunny pleasant day where I am in Bolton this day October 25, hopefully you both get to film in this weather. And welcome to Manchester my home town 🖤🖤

[@janinenelson1397]

Another amazing video. Safe travels in our beautiful country ❤