Peter Hook : The John Robb interview : in depth about Ian Curtis and Joy Division

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May 2020 on the 40th anniversary of iconic Joy Division singer Ian Curtis's death Peter Hook talks in depth about his friend and their friendship in detail
00:33 where did you get the idea to play all the Joy Division songs for the This Is Permanence Macclesfield gig
11:34 thoughts on JD now - did you know how good you were ‘only Ian Curtis knew…’
12:00 what would Ian say about current New Order situation
14:00 does every band have its own set timespan and if Ian had lived would Joy Division have ended
14:50 was Ian Curtis situation coming to a head? ‘he had sent a letter criticising Closer and rest of band to Tony which we never even knew about - he may have been preparing for a big. change in his life? Or maybe an escape from the emotion of playing and needed a rest? But he was the one who would never rest
16:15 ‘I wonder what happened that Saturday that he died to change him? on the Friday we rehearsed and we spoke on Saturday.’ What was he like in last rehearse on the Friday?
17:30 How Peter Hook received news of the death
18:22 You were set to go the America…
25:23 would New Order have been the direction musically that you would have gone in with Ian Curtis?
28:00 Were the tones and textures of the Joy Division songs affected by having Ian Curtis in the room
33.14 Did you all sense something special in eachother
35:00 I have found recordings of ‘in the city’ and ‘digital’ on rehearsal cassettes and that was the moment we made the big change from punk
35:15 Did you sense something different about Ian -
37:50 what was in a like as a person ‘he always encouraged you and stood his ground if we got attacked’
38:00 what was he like at rehearsals? Was it the same intensity of performance
39:00 ‘he had that Tescos plastic bag full of lyrics’
39:00 what was he like as a friend to hang out with go out with
43:17 Steve had goldfish pond in his drive never seen a house that big!
50:00 ‘what I love about Joy Division and early New Order was that it was not verse/chorus - it more post punk. It was just as it flowed like Disorder were Ian only does the chorus right at the end of the song
52:00 what’s it like to play those songs live now? do you have to inhabit them ?
John Robb is an award-winning journalist and boss of Louder Than War. In a 30 year music writing career, John was the first to write about bands such as Stone Roses and Nirvana and has several best selling music books to his name. He constantly tours the world with Goldblade and the Membranes playing gigs or doing spoken word and speaking at music conferences.
Website: louderthanwar.com/
Follow me on twitter: / johnrobb77
My band: / themembranes

[@vannjunkin8041]

Peter Hook seems to be the only element of JD that's left that relishes in the beauty and the cult of it. He gives the fans what they want because he feels it too. Hes not above it, he is it.. daily.

[@peterlivesey312]

John Robb is a national treasure. Cant imagine Manchester music scene without him

[@stephenbrown4649]

Love the way John lets everybody he interviews, Talk and gets great stories out of them,doesn't interrupt just to hear his own voice,brilliant interview

[@mrkipling2201]

Never seen a bad Peter Hook interview. The interviews on this channel are top notch as well. It helps having someone as respected as John doing them.

[@dylansdad987]

I could listen to Hooky for hours. Always interesting and always humble. Really wish the 3 remaining members of Joy Division could put their differences behind them and become friends again. Even if they never play together again, they were all a part of one of the most important and influential bands in UK music history.

[@ufixteeth]

i had given up hearing any JD songs live. If it wasn't for Hooky who I have seen about 5 times in Toronto, and even NO did a set one year. Hooky is a good honest musician and somehow the ticket prices were not even close to other events. Just a good hardworking musician who I am eternally grateful having had the chance to see a few times.

[@tonymack66]

Peter Hook's always engaging.

[@SuperGrimupnorth]

Just when you think you got it all re- joy Division history..& you find out that little bit more.. 🧐

[@Randys4g]

Great interveiw. Peter Hook seems like such a down to earth guy. So much respect

[@gruesometwosome6098]

Thanks John, that was brilliant to hear Hooky's memories.

[@matty7dream1]

I have been a Joy Division anorak for 40 years and this is the best interview I have heard. As soon as it finishes I am going to brew up, and listen to it again.

[@debratansey6074]

Feel like Peter Hook has been integrated into my life since I was 17, Peter Thank you

[@JohnCox-ut3cv]

What a lovely man. Talking about the lack of intensity when comparing JD to NO.

[@geminijojo7355]

Huge JD fan. I have epilepsy too so can relate to alot of what Ian went through regarding his health. I'd of love to have to have seen JD live but was only about 7 or 8 at their height. Thank you to you both for an engaging interview.

[@nasiranwar9776]

I wish he would create new material. He has always had a great talent for catchy bass lines.

[@nodarkthings]

Excellent interview, thanks. Some fascinating details here. What I like about Hooky is that he's so open and accessible. He really lets his fans into Joy Division and we can begin to understand what it was like for them. I have been a fan since I was 17 and at that time I knew nothing about the circumstances surrounding Ian's death. The only info I had was in the excellent book An Ideal For Living which just hinted at an "unusual set of circumstances" that led to his suicide and for years the enigma behind it all gave the music an incredible power in my mind. What's amazing is that I recently went to art college as a mature student and Kelvin Briggs was the uncle of a mate I met there. He came to our degree show and I got to meet him. Joy Division have been such a huge influence on my life and my art and I'd never have thought I'd get to meet Ian's best mate. It makes you realise though how real it all is. It's not just some rock and roll mythological tale. It's ordinary blokes from Macclesfield who experienced a huge tragedy and lost their mate. And who knows what we all lost... What might have followed Closer?? I guess the band must have wondered that too. Dammit, Ian!

[@TH3_FURY]

I saw Peter and the light in 2016 in France, and it was the first time that I saw a Joy Division member in flesh and bones ! I'm 5 decades and was too young too see JD in concer ; i discovered them the first time i smoked weed, at 14 years old, I listened Closer 10 time petrified by the joint on the ground and hallucinated by the beauty of the music ! I'm a JD addict since that epoch ! I'm doing a Joy Divison session every 2 or 3 days !

[@eightiesmusic1984]

I know this interview is about Ian Curtis but I recently watched again the 30 minute Granada Reports tribute to Tony Wilson from 2007 on You Tube which was broadcast after he died. It is very moving and charts his idiosyncratic career as music mogul and television presenter on Granada Television, a regional station based in Manchester. He was truly one of a kind, fiercely intelligent, loyal to Manchester and always keen to promote the city and backed his artists, refusing to rip them off.

[@MickDude]

Another Hooky gem interview. I could listen to the stories forever. Nice one John. ❤️

[@nodarkthings]

Hooky has a tape of ICB by Joy Division!? Let's 'ave it, Hooky!!