Peter Hook talks about Morrissey, and his legal fight with New Order, October 2013

BBC radio, October 17th 2013

[@vasp99]

Speaking as someone who is (much) older than the internet , this is the sort of thing I appreciate most about it . I would never have been able to hear this interview and so many others that I've enjoyed but for the kind people who post these gems . Thanks for sharing !

[@domoreilly3451]

vasp99 Same here.

[@ChubbyChecker182]

And God bless the people who invented light bulbs

[@KENKENNIFF]

Those were the days, if you missed something on the telly or radio, you just had to do without

[@chocomanger6873]

I'm going to guess you're not a lick over 60.

[@robinsss]

@@chocomanger6873 wow that looks just like Peter Hook he looks like he swallowed something with a hook still in it

[@JJBGuitar]

"Bernard got him in the divorce" - Amazing. Haha.

[@rdubb77]

Brilliant quip there. When he talks about Barney, as much as they have issues, I do get a feeling like he still loves him on some level.

[@juju5568]

It is like life mate. I have issues with my family, step - Sister & Brother. It got worse When my Mother died. I am 54, so I don't think I worry so much emotion and frustration about seeing them. It is the same in any Band, that are together for many years. Bernard Sumner, born in January. A Capricorn : worries about money. Can be self centered. Loyal to close friends. Hates any confrontation with people. Peter Hook, Aquarius: A person with a playful mind. I loves the experience of being on stage. The partying and socialise. Just a Man with guts and passion for his life. As it is and when it was 🤝

[@vannjunkin8041]

@@juju5568 thank for telling it. People get so caught up in the smells. Bands are relationships on many levels. Divorce happens right?

[@danholliday5564]

Quality.

[@nora1395]

That bit made me cackle poor hooky lol

[@a1974h]

Say what you want about his playing but he had his own unique sound. You can tell a hooky bassline a mile away.

[@mikeoleary1723]

Absolutely.

[@Metal-Possum]

He often used his bass like a lead guitar and left the actual bass playing to the keyboard...

[@ItsaDaPope-a]

His playing is great.

[@Hrendelpouchany]

Clone Theory

[@mannsam63]

I love Peter's bass playing.

[@BayviewFinch]

What about his drum playing though?

[@howeffingridiculous]

Hooky is a brilliant writer too. Reading his book Unknown Pleasures: Inside Joy Division was like sitting down and sharing a pint with him. Couldn't put the book down

[@deanluff2874]

It was written 4 him not by him numb nut

[@deanluff2874]

Sorry credit were due. He did write it. Only a man admits he is wrong.

[@sirguyslady]

Hearing it actually being read by Hooky really makes you feel like your sitting having a pint with him.

[@simonpalmer8857]

That is a great way of putting it. It captured exactly hpw he talks. Though he doesn't drink anymore, so it'll be a Virgin Mary.

[@MisAnnThorpe]

@@deanluff2874 "Only a man admits he is wrong"....and unnecessarily rude.

[@c.brogansavage3385]

Love the comment about Bernard getting Johnny Marr in the divorce! Hooky is hilarious and his book Unknown Pleasures is brilliant.

[@odw_99]

Hooky’s New Order book is great as well!!

[@docsavage8640]

It's telling he has to laugh it off that way

[@SirKauze]

I love Hooky, he's one of my heroes. Great interview !

[@dpiedra1520]

Have seen New Order many times between 1982 and 1990. Then saw the current New order line up in 2013 ... great sound but same songs you always expect from them. I've also seen Hook live twice (2011 - Unknown Pleasures) and 2013 (Movement and Power, Corruption, and Lies). Hooky was true to the original recordings and managed to get a great sound! Can't wait to see the Low Life/Brotherhood show in 2014 November in Toronto.

[@caneyebus]

Had to choose between seeing Hooky or NO this last year. I chose Hooky, was definitely the best decision I've made in a while. Peter was the heart of the band.

[@RPM25]

I saw both the New Order show and the Peter Hook show within 6 weeks of each other....New Order was good....Hook show was great, the best club show I have seen in a decade

[@contentcatnip]

I saw both too....New Order without Hooky pretty pedestrian, Peter Hook and the Light....unbelievable.

[@helothere001]

I saw new order, then hook and the light within a month. Also just saw hook last night. Got to say the light was 10 times more amazing.

[@kevcatnip7589]

@@contentcatnip hooky hated steve coogan somehow ,,such mystery

[@BlowinFree]

@@kevcatnip7589 I’ve got a theory on that….. maybe he had fkt Caroline Aherne. In hookys book he said she had been with lots of her peers….. maybe there was history there

[@Mooli]

Such a lovely guy. Met him and the rest of New Order in Islington at the Synthesizer service centre years ago, when they were having their Moog Serviced. Was really down to earth and chatty.. much like he is here in this interview. Shame all the current and post members of New Order can't all shake hands. Life is too short, guys.

[@revol148]

@Mooli Bernard Sumner is the issue - he comes across a right prima donna to put it mildly.

[@billybob1346]

Just the best live bass rock star on stage, love watching this guy

[@TesterAnimal1]

Awesome. This just popped up in my YT feed, and now I’ve booked to go see Hooky in Bordeaux next year! A weekend by the sea and a great concert.

[@trevorrandom]

Fantastic interview glad I found this

[@Servoboy]

Peter , come on your nearly 60 , you and Bernard - get back together. You are opposite ends of the same piece of string. You obviously love each other. Just get it sorted That's an order ( a new order) Steven

[@glennwoddle8272]

Servoboy Lovely stuff!

[@logonazo]

i've been reading Sumner's Book,...and it's not a Bernard problem, It's Peter "HUGE EGO" Hook.

[@logonazo]

No, it's like Waters in Pink floyd,...it's very clear to me after reading Bernard's book,...he is still waiting for Peter to tell the band what's its all about...

[@nitroherm1]

There are 2 sides to a story. I have read both Hooky's and Bernard's books. They are both good reads, but I feel that Hooky's books are filed with anger directed at his former band mate and doesn't skirt any issues. Seems he doesn't miss out on any opportunity to knock Barney for everything that went wrong in his life within the band. Barney might skirt a few things in his book, but he seems to take the high road and not delve to much into stuff that to him should stay within the confines of the band and not be for anyone else' s ears. Shame they can't work thing's out for the sake of the fans.

[@chrisjdgrady]

Hook is still very bitter about it. Never gonna happen.

[@77Spionkop]

I've seen Peter Hook and the Light 4 times now they are brilliant 👏

[@craigthomable]

Peter Hook may say that Movement was difficult, etc, but it produced - I think I'm right in saying - Procession, which is one of the all-time best tracks of all time. And a mere B-side!

[@PooperScooperTrooper]

There is no end, to this

[@jennyjohn704]

Procession was an A-Side, the b-side of the single was "Everything's Gone Green'. 'Everything...' was the A side of a twelve inch single, but Procession wasn't on it (Cries & Whispers and Mesh were on the 12" flip).

[@johngregory4410]

I never been to the UK, but if I ever go, I gotta visit Manchester.

[@montylikesbeer]

+John Gregory Its Gods country, my formative years spent at The Hacienda. www.manchester.gov.uk/info/500004/events_and_tourism/1148/manchester_firsts

[@johngregory4410]

mark stapleton Thanx!

[@jaybaw9155]

You're welcome anytime mate! You'll love it!

[@dianelunn-parsons7340]

John Gregory It was amazing growing up with the Buzzcocks and Joy Division and the Smiths. There was a scene and I truly believed punk would change the world. I went down to London in the eighties, couldn't find a vibe. Missed baggy which was ironic considering I was friends with one of the Happy Mondays and went to the same schools. Salford and Manchester have contributed greatly, obviously, to music and the late great Tony Wilson was a superb cultural ambassador. Did go to the Hacienda. Visit if you get the chance. City centre in parts a bit pretentious now, though

[@katm6]

You and me both!

[@rael1999]

It's so sad that people feel they have to choose sides. Even sadder is the fact that eventually when they get older they'll probably look back and think….what the fuck did we do that for…what was all that about…the things you do in this life are usually given their worth by the people you share them with and yet people can fall out over the stupidest of things (normally brass and egos)…..shame. Great Bands all of them !

[@SW-fn7cl]

Great comment Rael, I hope the last 8 years have treated you well

[@gaynortension2032]

Thx 4 posting :)

[@davidhope2506]

... love all the New Order guys (and guyettes)... very special....viva Factory Records!!!

[@sugarayofsunshine]

You can always trust a bass player

[@popularbeats777]

Not always, just sometimes.. :)

[@chocomanger6873]

Would you trust D'arcy?

[@douglasmilton2805]

Bill Wyman? With your daughter 😅???

[@neillp3827]

Sid vicious?

[@iggypopisgod9]

Nikki Sixx .....

[@bucky7162]

I laughed out loud when he said Bernard got Johnny Marr in the divorce haha

[@blurr412]

really, Chosen time has always been my favourite piece on Movement

[@GriefTourist]

+Steve Popelier I'd go for Truth & Dreams Never End

[@hudson707]

Denial would be mine

[@TommyRibs]

It’s interesting, I was growing up when New Order, the Smiths and then Morrissey were in their prime. FM radio NEVER played any of the amazing music from these amazing bands. That is criminal. I never discovered them, and so many other great bands from that era until well after that time period. I feel robbed. But the good thing is, I have discovered them and I appreciate the music so much. The Light sounds amazing doing those Songs. There is a 7:00 version of “Thieves Like Us” out there that is excellent.

[@leventak911]

We were very lucky in Toronto, we had CFNY 102.1 FM blasting all these tunes in the 80’s. Made all our mix cassettes and heard all the new music from that radio station. it’s not the same station anymore...

[@scottmouse1921]

@@leventak911 exactly! Used to piss me off. They played safe tunes everyone knew.

[@ianmangham4570]

Lucky for me at school in the early 80s my mate brought me all the tapes saying "ya gotta hear this" he brought me joy division, new order,mondays,smiths and then some ,we went to see happy Mondays at the octagon Sheffield 1989 😅

[@vladjones2446]

Most 'famous' Manchester musicians are insufferably pretentious Northerners but Hookey seems genuine and those iconic basslines especially the JD stuff are truly iconic and have really stood the test of time.

[@GriefTourist]

Well Morrissey is a bit pretentious but I'm having trouble thinking who else you mean...

[@carbonlifeform666]

M.E.Smith springs to mind and who can remember oasis?

[@leod-sigefast]

One of the most truly down to earth punk bands has to be Manchester's very own Buzz cocks?! Come on, as a Manc myself I cannot stand that Oasis swagger bullshit, or Morrissey pretension. Just give me good music...from wherever!

[@carbonlifeform666]

Totally agree

[@criminally_vulgar]

@@GriefTourist how is Morrissey pretentious?

[@HandleGF]

A lost episode of Coronation Street

[@youarebeautiful23]

Peter Hook legend and all around great lad

[@jimfarrellfarrell3258]

Bloody awesome , baseline at the beginning of perfect kiss all-time seen them at Enmore theatre 86 Sydney bloody awesome

[@RiverOfBlacklights]

_"I find that.. this is the only fuckin' business in the world... where a bunch of people can't get together to make millions of dollars.. What the fuck is wrong with everybody? Does it suck to play music? _*_NO..."_* - Doyle [The Misfits] When one takes all the BS out of the way, there is no real solid reason for most bands to not get back together to make music. It's so damned frustrating when bands/bandmates can't simply just bury the hatchet and just come together for their fans and just play music, especially those bands with large fanbases - even if it's for one last time. Before you know it, one or more members has/have passed away and the opportunity is lost forever. New Order and The Smiths, along with many others out there should take a look at the past and realize the precious opportunity they are discarding. One of my all-time favorite bands, The Chameleons, is a prime example of this. The bickering in that band was insane and though there was a reunion in the early 2000's, everything fell apart again. Despite fans calling out for a truce and another reunion (to no avail), early last year, John Lever (drums) passed away and now, the book on a proper reunion is forever closed. Even if they would set aside their massive differences and reunite, it will never again be a "proper" reunion. The clock waits for no one and the biggest regrets in life are usually the would've/should've/could've type... Time is ticking boys...

[@RiverOfBlacklights]

@Keith1974 If you see the making of money as a good impetus to make music, then you're missing the whole point of music making *_BUT,_* since you brought up $$$ to begin with and you say they're making "millions", then they'd probably make double or triple that amount if he came back... *_GUARANTEED._* So, if again, if $$$ is so important a facet for you, then you should see his coming back as hugely profitable to the band and a very good reason for him to return...

[@spencermax]

Hooky's a genuine fella. My mates and I were walking up the steps of The Apollo (Manchester) going to a Psychedelic Furs gig and he stopped to have a word. Half of us were Tunnelvision and I was Section 25. He knows and remembers his family (y)

[@ericcrawford8346]

Thanks for the mail Hooky. Self taught can be beautiful.

[@markusdaxamouli5196]

Peter is Sooo much cooler, and more pleasant sober. Guess most people are, but some more than others. Met him five times..3 while he was a Boozehound and 2 sober..very cool chap.

[@tindaloot]

James. Last Big Thing. Love 'em.

[@juju5568]

When I lived at home, back in the early 90's. My Mum, rang up Factory records office. I believe She spoke to Tracey. My Mum, bought me for one Christmas Revenge T-shirt, Electronic T- shirt, Video of Cities in the park ( festival 1991, Music of new order songs Republic. Durutti Column album live New York. Badges of hacienda club (51). Talk about mail ordering.😇

[@BlowinFree]

Do you still have any of the things 😊

[@jackkerouak]

It seems like the title of this video is misleading, it mentions "his legal fight with New Order", this is Peter Hook's fight, not Morrissey's.

[@PokeySoggybottom]

The comma before the 'and' takes away any ambiguity.

[@ShainaKarasik]

Re the Divorce: I got the Technique jacket...lol

[@Paa140270]

Favor traducir al español, gracias!

[@mikeoleary1723]

I saw them in London live. Shite really. On disc another story. Don't you remember them doing Blue Monday on TOTP live. Peter's lockdown recording were brilliant. He doesn't need New Order now.

[@ericcrawford6859]

''Morrissey walked straight out''? Come on Hooky, spill the has-beens,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[@amulonleozarraga6542]

the best peter hook you are legends and the best bass player ever!!!

[@docsavage8640]

Hardly the best but the best for New Order

[@zochbuppet448]

You have to love Hook ...in his older age he's like a chatty housewife that will tell it all one he gets a chance

[@penelop96]

Peter Hook's bass playing IS New Order and Joy Division

[@chocomanger6873]

@@penelop96 Gay comment.

[@Wheresnorth4romhere]

💎geeza✌

[@theonlyantony]

Fuck, the sad litigious mess that persists in the fallout of the band makes Ian's death seem so dignified

[@BioDieselEstate]

I adored The Smiths. Then Morrissey for the sake of continuity. Even I can see that Morrissey disliked Joy Division because they did exactly what Morrissey wanted to do. They got there before Morrissey. Plus, they were really bloody good from the beginning. RIP Ian Curtis

[@sabrinatscha2554]

How? How is he insufferable? You just disagree with his point of view. Just admit it.

[@docsavage8640]

@@sabrinatscha2554 that's how people are now: if you disagree you're some kind of -ist, usually racist

[@BioDieselEstate]

Please, someone send me Peter Hook's books

[@djbethell]

Peter Hook ,,, Corrrr!

[@J8D2]

Signing the roses over northside could have saved factory. I reckon it was one of tonys biggest regrets, that and buying the hacienda.

[@escaton74]

their record barely scratched the Top 20, I don't know if they would've been worth it financially. New Order went to number one that year

[@dongargon763]

He wanted to create history and change culture not make money and he succeeded in both

[@mrgman3229]

If he had signed the roses we would have had more than two albums from them

[@tomscotland]

@@mrgman3229 I wish that were true. Geffen couldn't do it, and they were organised.

[@mrgman3229]

@@tomscotland because so much time had passed ...imagine if they started a secound album after the Glasgow gig and how it would sound ...

[@pogiboy3571]

"i got the dog" LoL.

[@TheBerzerker666]

Peter, Bernard and Stephen should reform and play joy division songs with Peter on vocals. Before it's too late

[@docsavage8640]

Why? They did that over 40 years ago. Move on.

[@sublime12201]

Gary numan, Steve Jones , Johnny marr, peter hook super band

[@mef1975]

Such a shame the bands tended to hate on eachother. I didn't experience anything of the sort in the Florida scene, teasing if anything, but ultimately, we look out for eachother.

[@GriefTourist]

do nice people make great records?

[@mef1975]

Yes.

[@lextadros]

mef1975 nope

[@Beaches_south_of_L.A.]

Steve Gad That's a pretty cool point.

[@mef1975]

***** I met Johnny Marr, and he was as organic as it gets, made some great records. You don't have to be an ass to have talent.

[@richardgraham65]

Not sure what to make of Hook, is the guy just living off the talent of Curtis? There is just something about him on stage that makes me wonder.

[@reyramirez5695]

Peter Hook + Johnny Marr superband please. (Neil Tennant on vocals, maybe?) alternative universe electronic?

[@batwolflionhead1810]

Nice one

[@tubeberk08]

Odd, they mention a Manchester Cathedral concert, so strange,,, as far as i know, a famous rock band would never be scheduled to play (as a public venue) in a cathedral or church here in usa.

[@NeonLuvBar]

Ani Di Franco playing there in a few days

[@damnspynovels]

I saw St Vincent at Mcr Cathedral earlier this year. It's used as a legitimate band venue too.

[@smittenthekitteninmittens2679]

yeah i have seen 65daysofstatic there!..it has a great sound!!..funnily enough there is a joy division picture taken underneath a willow tree outside Manchester Cathedral

[@juju5568]

Interesting that Tony Wilson, ( had turned down The Smiths), 🤔 He was either being very picky, or just a personal reason other Morrisey. I can understand why he never signed Soft Cell. He could of signed The Smiths for their first album. It was a real shame about James, but they were getting more commercial and successful. I don't think the Railway Children had more than 2 studio albums released by Factory records. Happy Mondays came last in a unsigned competition. Tony, signed them for a gamble. Cath Carroll, singer was from the South (uk), got signed to Factory label. Album ' England made me' Probably another gamble to get started, but lack of promotion was the main problem Factory had with the music industry/business.✒🤝

[@anklamer]

he sounds young

[@normanno8514]

hooky is such a nice guy

[@sonanderson6351]

And we’ve had 10 more years of the fight, Peter

[@blackpeter70]

What happened to Monaco, Hooky? And were you guys trying to sound like New Order?

[@briantyson7744]

It makes me so sad that I know a bunch of nietzschean bass lines what I wrote and poor Peter don't know none of them

[@docsavage8640]

Sounds like a truly joyless division.

[@Pazuzu82]

I don't think the smiths would ever get back together and I don't think that hooky would ever get back with new order because of his band the light, I think hooky is comfortable in that role now. Morrissey and Mark E Smith sound like total Knobends that would never give you the time of day!

[@carywhitt]

Hooky is great.

[@karaloca]

I find Bernard is a creative, he wants to move forward. Hooky less so, he's happy to relive past glories. I personally prefer Bernards direction.

[@karaloca]

@@jmancali no one said his playing is shitty, hooky was great in new order. I simply said, I find what Bernard is doing now more creative than simply playing your past LPs. I don’t agree that people aren’t up and dancing or singing along, I’ve recently seen them twice in the last few years, both times I witnessed people up and dancing and singing along. As for ego, both Bernard and hooky have those, that’s the problem.

[@captaincomputaa]

Derek Hatton benefit gig?

[@sharksport01]

New Orders latest cd Music Complete is perfection.

[@kmmining1359]

Hooky.. the lad next door ;)

[@georgeharrison70]

Happy 58th birthday, Peter Hook!! :)

[@Lexthebarbarian]

Can someone please explain the divorce joke? Please?

[@GriefTourist]

Whereabouts in the interview is that ?

[@shaunescott2050]

When you get divorced you get to argue over the dog, furniture and the car etc! Bernard got Jonny Marr and he got Mike Joyce! Meaning Bernard got the better deal as in most divorces! Hope it clears that up?

[@Lexthebarbarian]

@@shaunescott2050 Yes! Thanks!

[@darrenlee1938]

Such a top geezer

[@robinsss]

wow that looks just like Peter Hook

[@animalblack8482]

The Man

[@BioDieselEstate]

No. The Pixies aren't being 'dissed' at 7.15

[@glennwoddle8272]

mrm cairns Agreed...Dissing Tony's bad judgement.

[@HooperWest]

PH = Great Musician

[@davidray8337]

I didn't know how funny 'ookie is.

[@Mel-yb2ut]

Have you ever wondered that both Bernard and Peter could be weird personalities and just clashed because their characters didn't match? Neither of them may be right, they just have strange personalities and do not want to admit their mistakes ...

[@jelkel25]

They lasted longer than most bands, if you were told you had to work with the same group of people for 40 odd years it would probably be a daunting prospect.

[@decaffeinatedafrican5997]

ngl i thought that was alex jones

[@andykerr6380]

Nearly 60? Fucking hell. Top, top bloke

[@moz85214]

Love MORRISSEY! I wish he would get back with NO. Saw NO 5 times in the 80's. Morrissey about 70+ times.

[@jennyjohn704]

Er what? Morrissey was never with New Order. Morrissey was The Smiths' singer and they're even less likely to play together than Pete and Bernard are.

[@moz85214]

@@jennyjohn704 Duh. Ik that. I meant I wish Hooky was back with NO

[@pennypinglestein2028]

looks like my landlord

[@pieterkock695]

the only thing we have left as a city is that the smiths are not coming back together lmao

[@shutterbuginorlando]

I wish you guys could settle your differences :(

[@ogfunk187]

its pretty pathetic at their age, in a way

[@spats67]

ogfunk187 In what way?

[@ogfunk187]

spats67 Howards Way

[@leventak911]

They are rich now, so they don’t need each other anymore. They have ‘artistic’ differences...

[@ebiwanton]

Honest to a fault.

[@MrSandmartin]

hi Peter I'm Martin From Rhyl Tony Sweetmans sons partner in business, do you have any work in Landscaping or decorating?

[@jamesdavies5266]

Most planes have propellers son!

[@BrianSmith-vl7xu]

I love the British way of thinking to joke about the shit that happens on life.

[@marvinsilverman4394]

that is a nerdy thing

[@32446]

marvin silverman it’s a northern thing.

[@docsavage8640]

Yeah "British" sure sure

[@marvinsilverman4394]

the humor british is nerdy

[@BrianSmith-vl7xu]

@@marvinsilverman4394 yes probably too complex for some. Stick to American custard pies in the face.

[@bloodswollengod]

I've listened to it five times but I can't literally understand; are they dissing the Pixies at 7:15?

[@DJMDLM1]

One of the presenters jokingly said, "were the Pixies turned down by Factory (Records) ?".

[@DJMDLM1]

By the way, that quote was referring to Tony Wilson, the owner of Factory Records turning down The Smiths and The Stone Roses.

[@carywhitt]

No dissing

[@djmdlm136]

cary whitt 'No dissing'?? bloodswollengod wanted to know what was said at 7:15. I just told him what was said, and explained what the quote was a reference to.

[@allways28]

cary whitt drunk or high

[@NeptuneReturnz]

Peter Hook is very similar to Robbie Williams but without the Mellotron.

[@marguskiis7711]

Interesting Hooky is talking with middle class accent now same time Morris is still talking with stick northern accent.

[@BlowinFree]

Bollox his accent may have softened slightly out he’s still pure manc. I should know I was speaking to him last week when he was out walking his dog.

[@readonly2309]

"manchester so much2answer4" ::: :

[@acutehalitosis2021]

Edward see those alluring lights

[@JorgeMartinez-ii6yo]

tonight will be your very last night.

[@criminally_vulgar]

A woman said "I know my son is dead, I'll never rest my hands on his sacred head"

[@petre.w.487]

Mmmmmm!!!!.....wonder what the truth is as regards,..... 'sitting down and talking about it' ??.....

[@Househead1200]

A one minute plus advert at the start? For fucks sake fellas sort it out.

[@samuelquintanilla6338]

I thought this was Alex jones!

[@janemcfaddenmeep4199]

manchester is the best City in the world. 💗💗

[@urphenomenon]

I love New Order. I love Stuart. I hate Mark.

[@stgenerations]

Hey bad man where are you going to go when you can’t go back to the life you know?

[@EvesRevenge]

Hook, you're mad. You never accepted Sumner, why did you end it. Bernard was a total asset. Why?

[@docsavage8640]

@You Tube viewer I'm sure you're on intimate terms with them both

[@davidstanley3012]

Hi it would have been nice if you had just reviewed the new album but the fact your response was mostly positive was. Cool after the smiths imploded the media then the NME have Tried to kill Morrissey off due to his so called right wing sympathies today it’s the guardian and every other TV personality sticking the knife in.morrissey is many things but racist is just silly Alex Baldwin is black and Morrissey has his image all around .l believe it’s the loss of British culture that’s slowly been disappearing but if any one makes a comment on immigration or the number of places of worship in Luton he is declared a racist when in fact is just talking about something that is not allowed to be discussed. Morrissey is a living icon only after his death will his true contribution to pop culture music be truly appreciated we will not see anyone do what he has done with the smiths and his solo work .. the secret of music. Indeed

[@Wildrover82]

I get your point and agree. It's James Baldwin by the way. And he's a big fan of Dick Gregory. Definitely not racist.

[@IMMER160]

chronically bad as a dj hooky

[@moondoggieist]

Bull Shit ! They need counseling by a 70''s shrink ! I am so mad about new order i could throw up ! There ruining there legacy !

[@moondoggieist]

What ever ,my spell chk was off !!!

[@pinkstrumpet]

Clifford Hutchinson It's grammar and punctuation, not spelling. Yay for New Order's new album. Smiths are utter crap, always were.

[@pinkstrumpet]

Gary Numans Silly Wig Hehe, well said!

[@BlowinFree]

It’s THEIR you total eejit