Bad Gear - Roland TR-8

[@CroixMedia]

I love how in Ableton you kept that "How to Report a Crash" tutorial up. I've been feeling that a lot recently.

[@jdssurf]

Why ? Does it crash a lot for ppl

[@AudioPilz]

Every. Single. Time.

[@jdssurf]

@@AudioPilz wtf then, what should I pick if I wanna use lots of hardware synths but DAW sounds as well?

[@AudioPilz]

@@jdssurf it's more of s computer problem than an Ableton one. Reaper works on more or less every pocket calculator;)

[@jdssurf]

@@AudioPilz So you would pic reaper over Ableton…………………I have to pull the trigger soon, I don’t want to shoot myself in the pecker

[@Redge.]

The TR-8S (updated version of the TR-8, that includes a digital display and dozens of other classic Roland drum kits included) is my baby that ticks all of the boxes... yet somehow this video still makes me want a TR-8. Great work!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!

[@SphericEl]

Prices of OG double by Monday.

[@ClifBratcher]

Love the TR-8S, but I really wish Roland would either make an editor for it or expand its sysex capability. There's so much under the hood hiding behind all those menus.

[@Redge.]

@@ClifBratcher YES! totally agreed

[@modalmixture]

@@ClifBratcher Yeah, Roland is great at providing way too many features/settings than the interface can realistically make use of. The sheer number of parameters for some of the effects is a little ridiculous. Do I really need to adjust the reverb early reflection and diffusion rates in a TR style drum machine? No. Could I do with a non-headache-inducing way to program pitch changes for the samples? PLEASE.

[@matthewlister3755]

"The sounds are spot on..." *shows screen shot of Rebirth* It's the little touches that makes this such a great show. That got a big chuckle out of me.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@adrianoconnor3020]

I loved rebirth,it sounded great

[@benmatthews8732]

So glad someone else laughed at that, because that was a very good joke.

[@BigEpinstriping]

@@benmatthews8732 I still have my copy. With the mousepad.

[@Stopinvadingmyhardware]

Then you find out they used the Rebirth algorithms for the emulation

[@imhatchmantoo]

This guy can take any piece of gear and really make it do some awesome stuff

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@MusicianParadise]

that scutter voice over was spot on , and your show is rollercoaster of emotions!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@cameronallen2174]

I’ve had my TR-8 for years and JUST learned how to set the gain of individual instruments thank you!! Great video as always

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!! Gain staging is key!!!

[@neurotransmission6825]

Come for the jokes and insight into gear, stay for the 90's references and sick jams. And lol at the guy that sold this for a drumbrute.

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks! That one had me ROFLing too!

[@colinreynolds01]

Came for the reviews, stayed for the badass jams. I just stumbled across your vids a few days ago and have since binged the lot. Fantastic stuff, brother!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!! Stick around!!!

[@Owoshima_]

This video really brings the "album when?" questions to the spotlight. Absolute fantastic video, and equally fantastic audio demos.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much! Which of the 8 requested albums are you referring to?;)

[@Owoshima_]

@@AudioPilz All of them. or a nice YT LP/EP of demos potentially.

[@TheScreamingFrog916]

I love mine. Got the expansion for it too. I think it really sounds good, and has fun features, to spice up your jams. And I love the Green accents and colored LED buttons.

[@AudioPilz]

Nice!

[@iterativeincremental]

yeah. it took me a while to get over the minimalism. It is a good new take. surely lacks in some areas. On the other hand the input with sidechain is a bummer that alone can drive a whole liveset ....

[@SirRigbyBaconKaiser]

Okay I love the fact you chose the best of both worlds from TNG. This feels exactly what Roland wanted, an "analogue" experience with digital hardware.

[@AudioPilz]

Almost poetic!

[@TimmyBolan]

The highlight of my week, every week.

[@ayashi3288]

This and regular car reviews

[@AboveEmAllProduction]

Same but I think I'm growing out of it 😞❤️

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!

[@min-yishen9324]

I know there is something wrong in my brain when I chose to watch Bad Gear before Tour de France and Euro 2020.

[@cl1xor]

Use it in your daily life to enjoy it at other days: at the first glance this lunch / excel sheet / quarterly result is ticking all the boxes :)

[@old_romans]

Here I am in my office having lunch with my co-workers enjoying the stock footage of coworkers enjoying work

[@AudioPilz]

Co-work-ception!!!

[@BCThunderthud]

Just rewatching this and I laughed out loud at the inspirational business montage.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@matrix12x]

"So what did they mess up this time?".... love it!!

[@AudioPilz]

They always do;)

[@DeliriumElectric]

Best intro line and so true for pretty much all gear.

[@DonnDeVoreMusic]

I've always enjoyed the green-ness of it. and the sound.

[@AudioPilz]

So green...

[@n.l.j]

This episode is on another level, props.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@null_state]

Great video, as always. The TR8 as the Borg, what a beautiful way to start the episode! Resistance is Futile.

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks! Resistance is GROOVY!!!

[@null_state]

@@AudioPilz I am Locutus of Borg, and I am here... to DANCE *Borg Techno Intensifies*

[@lairdkilbarchan]

Haha, another centre piece of my creativity brought into disrepute. You really should just come round my place and save yourself the hassle of any further research. 😁👍

[@AudioPilz]

Pics or didn't happen😂

[@lairdkilbarchan]

@@AudioPilz Dear Sir, I shall happy to provide the documentary evidence requested in due course. Yours sincerely, etc etc..

[@avarlin]

Same.

[@nachshonrorick]

Yes, I have a tabletop full of stuff that was featured! Xio synth, Rc-09, microsampler...bring on the SH-32 and EF-303 feature 😜

[@lairdkilbarchan]

​@@nachshonrorick It's beginning to dawn on me that music tech people are so insatiable that eventually EVERYTHING EVER MADE will eventually find itself on Bad Gear. You can guarantee even the finest bit of kit isn't good enough for somebody somewhere. You've gotta hand it to Florian, he's found a job for life. lol.

[@ASH-ou4cg]

What an amazing song you made with this. So warm and relaxing!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!

[@15913Music]

My first thought was that it was very bold to go after such a relatively new piece, but having used both the TR-8 and the TR-8S extensively I agreed with every single point you made.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@fatuzi]

bad gear makes my fridays 🥰🥰🥰

[@AudioPilz]

Happy to hear that, thanks!

[@thestinkyweasel6297]

Another great video, and another FAB Jam! Might I suggest (if you get around to it, I bet you have a LONG list by now) the Roland Verselab MV-1? A true modern conundrum of a groovebox/ drum machine/ DAWless DAW in a confusing and jumbled package? Truly worthy of a Bad Gear breakdown and demo. Thanks for the awesome videos!!!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks! Great idea!!!

[@Matt-zp1jn]

Yes! This would be a great video on the MV-1 ‘s shortcomings, plus all its Versatility! 😊

[@GizzyDillespee]

The last jam had such a wholesome and optimistic stock music video!

[@AudioPilz]

🧘🏻‍♀️ 🧘🏻 🧘🏻‍♂️

[@rodmorrison47]

I got mine used and already expanded with 707 sounds. I love it! Even the Return of the Jedi black & green colour scheme does it for me. I've gone into the settings and changed the TR colours on the buttons to green also, so it's like being in a sci fi movie when I use it in low light conditions. Awesome.

[@AudioPilz]

I used sunglasses for the production of this episode;)

[@micy80]

The 707 sounds upgrade are available for free or you need to pay? I am abou to buy a tr8 but unsure about this part. Appreciated!

[@callummacdonald9610]

Thanks for the consistently top notch content man!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks for watching!

[@CEF_LEF]

The TR8s scatter button is one of my best friends, interesting sounds with a Roland sp404a running through it

[@AudioPilz]

Yup, great on external sources

[@SphericEl]

One of the best reviews I could hope to watch - thanks .

[@felixpeccatum1705]

The cancellation of the TR8 after the TR8s was to be expected. Still think the S bring more to the table in a studio setting, but I feel like I want a TR8, just for performance. Simplicity is sometimes just what you want, when balancing a beer, smoking a blunt and playing with your d-beam….

[@AudioPilz]

Waiting for the d-beam upgrade;)

[@felixpeccatum1705]

Stereo in to hook up your SH-201! Go nuts! :)

[@Redge.]

My thoughts exactly! I love my 8S for the amazing features it offers, but a straightforward approach like the TR8 can really speed up one's workflow

[@Derzaubererer]

i have a tr8 and damn i want the tr8s 2.0 update its exaclty what im missing with my tr8:o

[@myousickoflife]

Perfectly said. The SH-201 and this bad boy go together like peanut butter and jelly

[@ballpowermdk]

That little scatter jam in the middle is one of your best yet

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@XanderEwald]

I never took this thing seriously until I saw it in full effect in a video by Mylarmelodies. Once I realized it's a future classic in (ugly) disguise, I bought one right away. It's really fun and still the most convenient way to add the classic Roland drum sounds to your setup.

[@AudioPilz]

Yup, very powerful performance tool!

[@N4SixString]

what video is that ?

[@kassemir]

that footage of a guy putting a white square in a frame up next to a photo of you on a white wall - love it :D

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!

[@Dudderlyful]

ITS FRIDAYYYYYYYYYY HERE WE GOOOOOOO... And now, back to our scheduled show

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks Moog it's Friday!!!

[@Dudderlyful]

@@AudioPilz Thanks heavens for Moog!

[@AngelusNielson]

This channel wouldn't be half as great without your accent. Good stuff.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@auxlen]

I bought into the Aira range. I had the Tr-8, the mixer, and the TB-3 and spent many an evening jamming away. Sometimes that is the beauty of something, just fun. Yes, you could make music (ie record and master) but that was (IMHO) not what brought me joy.

[@AudioPilz]

The integration with the mixer seems super interesting!

[@auxlen]

@@AudioPilz It was a lot of fun...maybe look into it.

[@Synthsound]

Wie immer: ein sehr cooles Video! Danke dafür 🙂 Zur TR-8: Der Grundsatz "Weniger ist mehr" gilt hier für mich persönlich absolut. Rasch viel liefern ohne stundenlanges Nachlesen im Handbuch, kein Menu-Diving wie bei der TR-8S. Ich habe meine erste TR-8 verkauft, weil ich mir eine TR-8s gekauft habe. Ich wurde aber nie glücklich damit und habe meinen Entscheid, die TR-8 wegzugeben, zu tiefst bereut.

[@AudioPilz]

Vielen Dank!!!

[@alchimerical2613]

I love how this show points out everything bad about a bit of gear and then makes said bit of gear sound great.

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks! That's the mission!!!

[@skywatchernorth]

Absolutely right that paid upgrade is some absolute bollocks. Loved the show as always Florian!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@Frisqo]

The TR-8 is already a classic. It accompanied me at many performances. More versatile than you think, love it!

[@andrewfar2461]

How you use It in a performance? I want to use It in USB mode, and put effects on It's channels. The problem Is that to use It in multitrack mode you have to use It as audio interface in ableton but i can't mute the dry sound from the drum machine (i hear ableton sounds + effected tr8 + TR8 DRY SOUND). How can i mute the dry sound, i don't want to use another audio interface because in that way i can't put different effects on every single Channel. Glad if you can help me

[@Frisqo]

@@andrewfar2461 I just use the stereo out from the TR-8. If you want multitrack, you can work around with the assignable outs

[@audreyazwell]

oh man for a second I thought you were doing the TR 8s lol I'm like "wait isn't that a fairly universally loved drum machine?!" lol I know next to nothing about the previous model so I can't wait to dig in!

[@AudioPilz]

That one is really nice but - well - not perfect;)

[@fatcheese5534]

WTAF.... You had the chance but didn't mention the crunch! When using delay number 8 put the level all the way up and tweak the time and feedback you get a lovely chruch! I'll eat that for beakfast every day! :) I love mine! And will never part with it.

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks for posting that!

[@Claidheambmor]

The screenshot of the FX modes at 2:10 shows 'delay' number 8 and its bit crushing powers!

[@MBEG89]

Wow didnt know that, so many hidden functions

[@MrBeatcreep]

das mpc update ist der wahnsinn. ich krieg die karre nur noch kurz aus um deine videos zu gucken. :)

[@AudioPilz]

Danke für's Pause machen;)

[@Kveg-y6k]

Hey love the show, I'd love to see an episode on the Yamaha QY70 as I feel it fits the general vibe of the show well. If you cant find one hit me up and I'll send you mine. Happy friday guy, thanks for the video!

[@AudioPilz]

Great suggestion, thanks! QYs are on the list for much too long!

[@paulbmorgan]

Excellent point about the new Akai MPC upgrade, I updated mine today and the new synth plugins add so much - the Solina Strings are wonderful...and all for free, well done Akai. My Bass Station II (and Citcuit) despite being long in the tooth is still admirably supported by Novation and their last update effectively turbo charged the synth. Unforgiveable that Roland want over 100usd for some samples which you would expect to have on the machine from the outset; these should at very least be offered to loyal Rolandites at a later date. I have been a Roland fan boy for many years but your excellent diatribes are helping me to see the light, cheers!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks! Yup, the big name keeps them afloat

[@JonasHamill]

Having to pay £100 extra just for the 606 and 707 samples is definitely my biggest gripe with this unit. Just needless

[@AudioPilz]

Set the 707 free!!!

[@zaksimmons6848]

I think 606 is free with firmware update, and 707 includes 727.

[@muzikman2008]

@@zaksimmons6848 correct. I bought the 7x7 upgrade and got the 606 free 👍

[@muzikman2008]

I was expecting more drum machine updates like the CR78 but it never arrived.. They brought out the TR8S instead. Not bought any roland gear since, felt cheated and robbed lol.

[@2point7182818284590]

They are not only samples, though. But of course it's WAY too expensive.

[@TheRemixGeneration]

I am here! and at the first glance this video is great!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!

[@low_rise5030]

"bald claim" - LMAO!! :D :D wether it was intentional or not - made my day!

[@AudioPilz]

Who knows;)

[@lairdtomfrenchelectromusic2545]

Your videos, as well as your musical demonstrations are still as cult !!! Danke, dass du mich zum Träumen bringen musst, mein Freund. 👍

[@AudioPilz]

Merci beaucoup!!!

[@mitchelviolins210]

The 707 is my most used kit on this. Also the 909 kick through distortion gets wild.

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, love 707 sounds!

[@mitchelviolins210]

@@AudioPilz probably should have been free though lol

[@anthonycotham4346]

Hi! I recently downloaded the 7x7 pack. and while I had never played with 707 sounds before I may never stop. Definitely worth the upgrade. Also I got the tr-8 because of this video. Same with your other videos for the little Yamaha sampler and the tb-3. Overall the three make an unassuming, affordable and fun rig. Thank you Mr. BadGear. Xoxo

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@vroenis]

omg that Rebirth screenshot 😆😆 Minidisc! Ticking all the nostalgia boxes! OK early 00’s corporate video music & stock footage is a step too far, I’m having flashbacks (good job 😆)

[@AudioPilz]

😂😂😂

[@liudas5377]

That rebirth screenshot.....

[@LouisSerieusement]

Damn, I leave 2 weeks or so and have already 3 episodes to watch ! I'm glad you keep making those in the summer but I still hope you enjoy some sort of vacation !

[@sennstrato7281]

I use my tr8 all the time. It's fun!

[@AudioPilz]

Agreed, super fun modern drum machine

[@ORACLEBALL]

Been waiting for this one

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!

[@annee1272]

7:27 hahaha you nailed it with the "inspirational" corporate videos lmao

[@gasolineandwine]

727 time stamp?

[@annee1272]

@@gasolineandwine wdym

[@gasolineandwine]

@@annee1272 727 as in Roland TR-727 😎

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!! They're a constant PITA;)

[@RumchugMusic]

I can feel the synergy.

[@vazfinestdjchozin1599]

i CAN SEE WHY YOUR CHANNEL IS SO POPULAR. Thanks for the review.

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks for watching!

[@DrJ3RK8]

I'm a big fan of both TR-8 and TR-8S. I actually like using the original TR-8 better live, and the TR-8S better to do more intricately programmed things. Both sound excellent. I was surprised by how much I liked them.

[@AudioPilz]

Roland certainly got the sound right on these

[@souliseum5437]

Lovely tool. Seems almost ideal to stack with something else. I love that the sounds are identifiable for how easy it is to jam. Would one grow bored of the limitations with this? Excellent segment and jams as always!!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@synthlord2368]

Another review on a piece of gear I own.

[@AudioPilz]

Nothing personal;)

[@onlychld6121]

Is it weird that i've watched some of these episodes so many times I have unwillingly memorized some dialogue? Top KZbin show

[@AudioPilz]

❤️❤️❤️Thanks!❤️❤️❤️

[@ultralife73]

Sequencing this thing with an external sequencer like the Beatstep Pro over midi wil REALLY give it more depth. Also: Get a second hand one with the upgrades for 707, 727 and 606 included. They are about 300 bucks. Great value for money. I love this thing. It sounds amazing, Roland's ACB absolutely nails the sounds of their own classic drum machines. Fuck all the naysayers! :-)

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, I'd love to test the 7x7 upgrade!

[@LousyFacelift]

The "naysaying" has to do with the fact that Roland obviously felt the need to "improve" on their ACB sound quality in their boutique versions and TR 8S only two years after the TR 8 was released, without offering a way to upgrade to the new standard, despite having marketed the TR 8 as a largely expandable concept. The difference in sound between these versions is hardly noticable, the whole debate is not really about sound quality, it's about Roland raising high expectations in the longevity of the TR 8 and then making a money greedy move by replacing it. They made it look future proof, sold tons of it and then did everything to make it look unattractive and devalue it after only two years. Not cool....

[@PorchBass]

Until the mk2 with better sound....

[@ultralife73]

@limelight81 Oh, this thing looks like a turd, totally agree :-)

[@ultralife73]

@@LousyFacelift Ah, ok, yeah, that's a dick move. I can imagine feeling cheated when you paid full retail and two years later the machine was as good as abandoned in favor of the new and shiny, by it's own creator. I have had some discussions with people who think it does not sound good, and not like the originals. But that's probably nitpicking from their side. I think it sounds great. having said that, it's a bargain second-hand for 300 bucks, including the expansions...

[@hogbowlbeats]

I was looking for an 808-style drum machine remake a few months ago, and this was one of them on my "maybe buy" list. Seeing its limitations, I'm glad I stuck with the Behringer RD-8. Great video!

[@AudioPilz]

Behringer RD-8 is certainly a solid choice!

[@AnalogDude_]

the voice circuits of the tr-808 aren't really complex and pretty much low part count. (easy to clone) the TR-909 is a different story, the guy who made these circuits should be considered a hero, did you know the TR-909 kick/bass drum consist of 3 VCO's while the TR-606, TR-808 are only one.

[@streettrash_sid]

@@AudioPilzwhy don’t you just stick your tongue straight down Uri’s trousers! Admit it, you love Behringer!

[@Plexyglazz]

The stock footage video was a very disturbing match to your Royalty Free Music Tracks From Only One Dollar Downtempo AF Orchestral Glo-Fi Ballad. I definitely need a drink to recover from that!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks & Cheers!!!

[@jazzseba]

I'm a simple musician! I see bad Gear video release, I watch it! Thanks!!!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!

[@TheSnowLeopard]

Sometimes I get worried that you're going to run out of Bad Gear to review, but then I realised that won't be a problem while Roland is still in business!

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, Roland keeps this channel going!

[@SamGrooveTV]

Patiently waiting for an episode on the TR-8S

[@AudioPilz]

Great suggestion, thanks!!!

[@vladv5126]

ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-bop, I'm the scatter man

[@AudioPilz]

Hit record material;)

[@axidhaus]

SchizZzz going everywhere

[@187onasimp]

I had this first but upgraded to the TR8S...then I sold my TR8S... missed it and brought it again a month later. That says enough right there... it's awesome.

[@AudioPilz]

Very immediate machine!

[@framzoid]

It's a very "in demand" unit these days. It's pluses outweigh it's minuses and I ALWAYS thought it's 808 and 909 emulations were dead on.

[@AudioPilz]

Really like the sounds too!

[@jimmywheelo]

coupled with the full midi implementation it's a must have for X0X heads. Sequenced from the DAW it is hard to beat

[@futureworldmachines4407]

I had my TR-8 for sale on reverb until I saw this, I'm keeping it now, thanks for making me sense!

[@AudioPilz]

Happy to hear that! Fun machine for jamming!

[@corrosiveabuser]

I was wary of the ACB stuff from Roland when first released, having owned many of their classic pieces over the years, like many others I was hoping for some real analogue units, - but once I tried the little TR-08 Boutique, around the summer of 2018, I was really surprised. I now have 5 of the boutiques, the SH-01A, Ju-06A, TR-08, TR-06, TB-03 a TR-8s, System-8 and only recently managed to get hold of an immaculate secondhand TR-8 +expansions. With superb secondhand examples going for as cheap as £200, I couldn't resist buying the 8, - although I think I paid around £350, just to get an immaculate, as new, example...

[@AudioPilz]

Cool collection!!!

[@Chasing_Thoughts]

The Aira line of green machines was my gateway drug to years of watching music tech videos on KZbin

[@AudioPilz]

Yes. Because the manual wouldn't cut it;)

[@Chasing_Thoughts]

The Manuals don’t include Nick Batt

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

Finally discussing a machine I have Actually not bad gear 😋

[@AudioPilz]

You know the drill: one man's Bad Gear;)

[@abstractmodule4574]

Welcome to my world. They got me with the MicroKorg episode. Lol

[@TheOriginalEUrban]

MicroKorg ES2 user here. I consider it a badge of honor to see my toys on this series.

[@scottcupp8129]

This is a great instrument :) Very nice, programmable, and sound manipulation. I may look in to this one:) Great video my friend

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@jacobtaves8471]

Love the show, still want you to track down a zoom street box drum machine!

[@kingcobra124]

Hell yeah, I just got a RT-123 RhythmTrax. It would be sick to see it on here!!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks for the suggestion! I still have to find enough hate for it;)

[@hellotherethisiskiminsung]

Well, I've seen it a lot of times, but it really is magnificent... Those lights, the control... M8 it makes me wanna buy it

[@AudioPilz]

The lights can be quite annoying tbh;)

[@cooloutbeats]

I'll admit the 707 expansion is a bit pricey. However, it's worth noting that the Roland ACB tech isn't samples...even on sampled based units like the 707/727, Roland also modeled the non-pristine converters and signal path of the original units.

[@AudioPilz]

True, but the samples are still samples (just like the few sample-based voices of the 808/909 kits) - they certainly emulate the post-digital signal path of them

[@cooloutbeats]

@@AudioPilz Perhaps there's some additional audio voodoo going on like crosstalk or aliasing...or just to offset R&D costs, it's built into the bottom line of the product to charge for the expansion since the TR8 doesn't import samples at all. Charging extra for little add-ons is common in software but still hardware manufacturers do this occasionally, like how Waldorf charges $100 just to enable a pitiful 60mb of sample loading into the Blofeld.

[@cadra400]

it seems they also modeled the phasing effect you get when playing snare and clap simultaneously, like on the TR-909 (where both circuits used the same noise source). apparently some people found that "annoying", but that's actually a very neat touch on roland's part.

[@Yuzuki1337]

I'll take "Things I did not expect to see here" for 500! :D Thanks for the episode as always and have a nice weekend! ❤️

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks❤️

[@issahumps]

Got a tr-8s but I always come crawling back to the tr-8 😂. Very easy to just get into making drum loops. The tr-8s just feels overly complicated. I’m still a noob after a few years so maybe it’s me.

[@AudioPilz]

TR-8 is a modern classic!

[@anx1]

That jam with the tr8 and blofield and company was damm good I've got an rd8 with the flam thing but you sort of killed it using that scatter👌🔥

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks! I really had to practice on the scatter. It's a bit unpredictable

[@oldowl4290]

As an older drummer who is mainly into EDM music I have to say I find it kind of odd how much old school electronic drum sounds still permeate most, if not all, dance music even now in 2022 some 40 years after the 808. The sounds in something like the TR-8 are barely any different from what I have in my old MC-307 Groovebox. So I have to wonder is it the fact that most EDM music makers are not actually drummers with a kit to record so this is just what they use and are used to and or is it mostly a European thing? For example, you'll find USA west coast bass music, neurofunk, future funk, etc, using a lot different and more modern, more realistic full drum sounds and samples (via DAW) and not any "OG" sounding machines like this which seem to still permeate hiphop, house, and techno. I definitely enjoy both styles but am also very surprised by how much the vintage drum machine sounds have stayed around, as again they are not that much different than their original counter-parts. Lastly, I've yet to hear any modern drum machine, synth based or sample based, including Roland drum pads like the SPD-SX or SPD-30 have any sort of modern, fuller, drum sounds. I'm 50 btw, and after a 20 year hiatus am diving back into playing as a DJ-Drummer. My IG is HydBtr.

[@AudioPilz]

808s are classic sounds like a Stratocaster through a Marshall. It just works.

[@oldowl4290]

@@AudioPilz Yes, it does but also consider that it “just works” mainly because that’s all you’ve heard for 40 years. We’ve all been conditioned to it. I’m heavily exploring new sounds with grit, dirt, glitch, detuned, gated, etc. I’ve never used drum machines much because I’ve always had real kits and also don’t really like pure electronic drum kits either. I like using triggers. I’ll be showcasing what I mean very soon. Also check out Sunhouse triggers. It’s a whole new world.

[@calcairecamhi]

@@oldowl4290 When can it be listened to ?

[@cyborgmetropolis7652]

❤️ I always enjoy these uploads! ❤️

[@AudioPilz]

❤️❤️❤️

[@blimolhm2790]

Behringer is waking up Roland to create new unique instruments, one classic at a time.. thankfully The Matrix colour scheme didn't lure me into grabbing one of these. My volca drum still keeps me very happy to this day as a percussion/tone generator. You look so futuristic in a turtle neck

[@AudioPilz]

Turtle neck & chain!!! ;)

[@187onasimp]

lol, Behringer isn't doing anything but rummaging around in Roland's closet. Roland has always innovated their products they never look back it's why they haven't gone back to analog but instead perfect technology to make a more efficient version of it with ACB tech. The TR8 was impressive as it had everything you could want from an 808 but when they made the TR8S they pretty much gave you all of Rolands best offerings in one box that covers it all.

[@sts0-101]

@@187onasimp calling a company innovative for doing nothing much for the past 25 years but putting samples of their glorious past into yet another plastic box, may be a bit bold. It's like a news outlet that goes from paper to web in a bid to stay current, but then keeps printing the exact same articles every year. The super saw was the hoarse last breath from a company with more to look back on than to look forward to. I know that's an over the top statement, but it's the comment section of bad gear and all in fun 😀

[@lumer2b]

@@sts0-101 Oh the horror, a company using their own IP in newer products! BTW those are not samples, but emulation of the analog circuits. You can tweak parameters you can’t on sample boxes, and they sound good.

[@sts0-101]

@@lumer2b oh the innovation. Totally new sonic experiences 😁

[@andrewstanworth529]

BEST. DRUM. MACHINE. EVER!!!!

[@gordon2402]

Auch wenn acid ziemlich einfach zu programmieren ist ( wenn man es als erfahrener Musiker mal genau nimmt) Aber du schüttelts mal wirklich paar coole lines hin . 👍🏻🎹🎶

[@AudioPilz]

Besten Dank!!!

[@keepitshortnsweet]

Ahhhh... I see what you did there with the episode thumbnail and TNG. Well played.

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!!! Classic color scheme!

[@fisk0]

I like the TR8, but it definitely felt a little sour when they made a TR8S instead of making more updates for the TR8 firmware. The 7X7 upgrade was only discounted once too, and I missed that opportunity and ended up giving them the full price when it sounded like they would take that upgrade off the market (it eventually reappeared on the Roland Cloud for the same price). In the end, I think the TR6S ended up being a good half-step companion for those of us that didn't sell our TR8 when the TR8S came around, and I'm pretty happy with my decision. You can get two bars out of it by holding both the A and B button simultaneously by the way, will play both the A and B parts in sequence.

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks for the clarification!

[@citruesilver]

Yeah, my feelings exactly. I was lucky to get the tr8 with the expansions 2nd hand but after the release of the tr8s I sold it and never looked back. I bought the mc101 and tr6s recently and that duo ticks all my traveling boxes 👍

[@RobertDorschel]

I want to point out that 1) I have the TR8 + 7x7 expansion; 2) I watched this video on my studio setup with Yamaha HS8 + HS8S sub and cranked it boom chika boom; and 3) my TR8 is now off the shelf and back to being played with. Thank you for relighting the fire here, Florian

[@AudioPilz]

Always a pleasure, thanks!

[@marcelfrehse]

ahhh my fridaily dosis of gear pr0n.

[@AudioPilz]

Mmmmmh, I like pr0n;)

[@marcelfrehse]

@@AudioPilz oh yeah ;)

[@andrewstanworth529]

The TR8 is a wonderful piece of gear! It's so unroland like when it comes to the workflow! It just works!! Very Well! Shocked 😮! And pleased!

[@AudioPilz]

Shocking indeed!

[@mutantdisco87]

I laugh a lot with "What did they mess up this time"... Ah Roland... They were good 35 years ago...

[@AudioPilz]

Make Roland great again;)

[@jamesmock2109]

​@@AudioPilzis there another machine you can plug into the TR 8 for more bass like a mixer

[@patrickg.259]

Nice! Just received my TR-8S today and was thinking the TR-8 might be a worthy contender for your show…. et voilà! Well done!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks! Always on time!

[@cthallborgtheineffable5583]

Yes

[@AudioPilz]

Hell yes

[@CarpeDiem-311]

You make bad gear sound amazing!!!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@goo9637]

The first drum machine that implements paid downloable content.... Roland always one step ahead !

[@AudioPilz]

The EA of gear;)

[@voltijuice8576]

I just glue the EPROMs to the case.

[@rundtomrasmus]

😂😂

[@soepil]

Another great video. Am I the only one thinking that the jam at 6:10 has some serious Chris & Cosey-vibes to it? :)

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@thesequencer4971]

I skipped asap to 07:25 : Royalty Free Music Tracks from only one dollar downtempo Orchestral AF Glo-Fi Ballad 🚀

[@AudioPilz]

Now you watch the entire episode, don't you?;)

[@thesequencer4971]

@@AudioPilz Of course..👍🚀. .. Ready for BadGearflix... How about a Video of Korg Triton taktile? , this is really the worst user interface i ever had... Or maybe a Behringer (any Synth/Drum) Edition but this will probably divide the viewers 😅... Cheers from Vancouver

[@barryjefferies3201]

FINALLY.... Gave into my Craving and just Received my TR.8 After 5 years of telling myself I Don't need it as i have 2 mc 707s, a Drumbrute impact, an RD-6, A BEHRINGER EDGE AND Many assorted Samplers 😮.... BUT .... There's Something So RaW ,Rustic & PRIMAL about the OG. TR.8 That Even The TR8Ss Doesn't Have....... Especially the 909 Kit ❤❤❤🎉 and Being Horrendously Addicted to AciD Electro ""❤😊..... IT just feels WRonG ,, NoT Owning One ... OOooH..😮... Thanks my friend.,, I feel much better now I got that off my chest..😊😊🎉 jaffa Jenkins Dawless jams ❤

[@chesthairascot3743]

I'm still waiting for an analog 808 clone that doesn't involve giving Behringer money.

[@AudioPilz]

Have you tried a Miami?

[@tylergates4075]

The Behringer synths are excellent

[@schwallamanda8031]

Buy used behringer gear :p its like buying a second hand fur scarf no harm is done in capitalist terms

[@profd65]

What do you have against Behringer? This should be fascinating.

[@dyF.6]

Always a pleasure, great work once again

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!