Bad Landings... But Can I Fix Them? Glen's Hangar

[@elenasimon1270]

Close flight plan. My next tee shirt. LOL.

[@mrobich321]

I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate every minute of these outings. As a child I dreamed of owning my own plane. As a young adult I started the process with a few classes, exams, medical checkup, a few hours of flight time and then life got in the way. I am glad someone got to make use of my childhood dream and if you don't mind, I'll just stick to a wing and fly along. Thank you so much for sharing these calming moments and amazing views :-) :-)

[@toms.3977]

You can critique your landings but I've always heard any landing you can walk away from is a GOOD landing. Thanks Glen. Really enjoying this channel along with your cooking channel. Stay safe.

[@MaShcode]

Seems like every other commercial wide-body landing I experience is a one footed amusement park ride so I wouldn’t beat yourself up too much. You humbly walked away. Consider it a success. 😊

[@steveo4048]

A smart person learns from their mistakes. A very smart person learns for the mistakes of others. An exceptional person allows others to learn from their mistakes. Glen, you are a very smart and exceptional pilot. Cheers to you, your family and the hobby you enjoy enough to share with us all.

[@guyoreilly5670]

At 6:30, you mention the grass mowed in a star shape. That is a Model Airplane club.

[@pastorrich7436]

An approach technique shared by one of my instructors years ago was to fly the pattern trimmed and at speed for landing. For example, in a C-152 setting flaps, trim and airspeed for 60 and fly the pattern in that configuration lightens the workload for configuration changes in each leg of the pattern. At that point, you're focused on the approach and not managing configuration changes. This became my preferred configuration for flying the pattern whenever possible. Good landings or bad landings, it's always a pleasure to fly with you. God bless!

[@mapleleaf4ever]

Those weren't too bad of landings Glen. I've seen worse and felt worse. When you need Chris to do an 'Abnormal Occurence' inspection... then it's a bad landing! lol

[@MrDdaland]

BTW, as suggested, adding "close flight plan" to checklist probably a good idea. As far as a sticker- might work best if you pay attention to what you are seeing as you get out of the aircraft- say on the door sill above the door handle INSIDE

[@minuteman4199]

Southern Ontario is beautiful and I'm thankful that I get to live here.

[@kbjerke]

I thoroughly enjoyed the trip, Glen! Thanks. I'd like to mention, that a half century ago when I was a student pilot, I used to *LOVE* doing slips to land when I had a little extra altitude. Also enjoyed dragging the tail of the 150 (on the grass strip at Maple) practicing soft field takeoffs. Then my career goals changed and I became an AME. Oh, well!!

[@rickm5271]

Glen, I love these videos! And in my book,the only bad landings are the ones you don't walk away from. There are those that can be more graceful than others, but all are good! Thanks for sharing!

[@stephenp448]

Regarding your choice of frequency.. I would tend to do the reverse of what you did. Transmit on 122.9 by default, and monitor 126.7. The Toronto VTA chart (and I think possibly the CFS as well) shows a border of where the CTAF frequencies should be used. I tend to broadcast my position every 5-10 minutes, especially in the Lake Scugog area, but if I know someone else is out there, even more so until I can see them. Great video though! I learned to fly at Lindsay so it's fun to see other people's experiences there.

[@whip8]

Those landings looked fine

[@321southtube]

Thanks again for bringing us along. As a young man in the Army I routinely "jumped out of a perfectly good aircraft" my landings at times weren't textbook "parachute landing falls" or pretty but I walked away from them all. The aircraft is in one peice...you walked away...I'll call that a good landing 👌. Great videos, great editing and really enjoyable Thank you

[@stellamcwick8455]

Honestly Glen, I just don’t see what was that wrong with those landings. If it’s because of the cameras then just turn them off, find a small strip somewhere and just do touch and go’s all weekend. Get 30-40 landings in. You need to develop your muscle memory. Once you have that the distractions won’t matter.

[@vickenator]

If you walked away from it, it wasn't that bad of a landing. Something to learn from. You're still learning. We're always hardest on ourselves, after all. Every landing will be different because you can't control the conditions everywhere you go, and that's the nature of flight (some might say it makes it more exciting, more of a challenge!). Thanks for sharing the good, the bad, and the... not-so-bad!

[@corkscrewfoley]

I thought the approach into the Oshawa airport was good, I'm no pilot, and I'm a bit of a Launchpad in GTA. I'm really digging these videos.

[@colin4834]

Great attitude Glen!! I used to be so hard on myself for bad landings, still am to a point. A bad landing is so hard on the confidence as a pilot I found. Every landing is different which is why it is so hard to master. We are human, we make mistakes and learn from them,

[@Dj-zz]

Hey Glen. As a non pilot you seem to be in your height of glory. Like all learning the more you do it, & try to do it well, the better you’ll get & the happier you’ll be with your performance.

[@vdubboy85225]

Always a great watch. You make it so real, and that's what I love about both of your channels content.

[@mikezimmermann89]

As a fan, I am (of course) looking forward (with you) to the days when you regularly “grease” your landings. In the meantime, remember the old adage, “Any landing you walk away from is a ‘good’ one.”😅

[@spurgear4]

I got checked out on my little taildragger this summer. I had wheel takeoffs pegged and felt confident with that part but was still nervous of the landing phase.. I hammered out almost two hours of circuits by myself one evening at a quiet little airport where i live and can grease it on 9 out of ten times now. Trim, speed control and power adjustment to keep the intended landing spot on the runway fixed in the windshield.

[@dennqus1]

Hey love these videos especially the chatter on the radio. Just like being there almost😊

[@mayberrywj]

I didn't see a bad landing. I saw a touch and go and then a full stop landing.....:)

[@steveb5249]

I realy enjoy your videos and Julie ads a lot to them Regrds Steve B

[@profrumpo]

Really enjoy these trips thanks for sharing, terrific scenery and as someone who is not a pilot I really like the fact that you show it all, if you have a landing you are not happy with you don't just edit it out but you explain where you think you went wrong and why.

[@biggles54321]

The paved airstrip is in the Canada Flight Supplement as CAR4, Cameron/Arbour Airfield.

[@GlensHangar]

Is that the December 30 2022 CFS? It's still not on the charts, or in the CFS that expired Dec 29 2022. Still waiting for the latest CFS to download.

[@GlensHangar]

Yep - just showed up in the CFS released a few days ago.

[@Gurture11]

I've been eyeing that private airstrip for a while now. Always wondered who constructed that. Nice to see you flying around Peterborough 😄

[@Spocket]

I'm looking forward to when you prepare food while flying.

[@xx420xxyolo3]

id add "close flight plan" to your shutdown checklist you seem to forget often 😂

[@colinrdoyle]

My landings improved vastly when I started to adjust trim for airspeed in every phase of the pattern. In the 172R trainer, that was 10° flaps and slowing down as low as ~80 kts after I passed abeam the threshold in the downwind leg, then putting in 20° flaps and trimming for ~70 kts turning base, then trimming for 60-65 kts on final and landing with 20° flaps. Aim for the numbers, round out and flare, increase back pressure and try to hold it off as long as possible.

[@GlensHangar]

Yeah - my problem with this plane had been all of the modifications done to the wing: 3 feet of extensions, STOL cuff, VGs, etc. The POH landing speed of 65 - 75 MPH (57 - 65 Knots) is way too fast causing the wing to carry too much lift. I needed to completely dump 25+/- years of Cessna 172 knowledge and become a test pilot to figure out what actually works with this setup. This thing flies like no other 172 I've ever flown.

[@colinrdoyle]

@@GlensHangar Ahh! I did not watch all your previous videos, was unaware. Sounds like a cool setup - you might be able to fly backwards in a moderate headwind. Hah

[@bobherman3292]

Looks like a little bit gusty and perhaps warmer. Hard for a low time pilot to do greasers in those conditions. Do touch and go's on a gusty day. Practice will iron that out.

[@debexspacecadet6586]

Any landing you walk away from is a good one.

[@davidpeckham2405]

I would be interested in understanding the communication between you and the tower. I have a tough time understanding it. I hope you could do a video on it.

[@littlsuprstr]

I wonder what the permitting was like to build a private airstrip that has takeoffs/landings over other people's houses.

[@richardgreen6857]

It's those light crosswinds...we tend to get complacent when the wind is below 10 kts. I had an instructor that challenged every control input I made (or didn't) on several light wind days, and it largely fixed my floaters. Not all of them mind you, but when someone else is on-board I really zero in on what the wind is doing to nail centerline landings and the first third of the runway without either a hard arrival or a long bouncy float...when I'm alone I still lean towards complacency 🙄

[@zootedpears4533]

Love your videos - aviation and culinary! I have the same interests, thanks for these videos.

[@peterdoe2617]

A pleasure to watch! Glen: you're showing off your flaws, when landing? My saying: "Only the best do that." Full stop. This is not a glam show. It's life. *Bowing my head* I have to add to my comment on that tart Tatin recipe from yesterday. I've found a fantastic recipe on that, right after. (Served @ Buckingham Palace. For real. I was stunned.) Greetings from the far north of Germany!

[@garyharper2992]

That landing wasn't too bad.

[@garyharper2992]

What made you think it was a bad landing?

[@Kinkajou1015]

One of the wisest things flying related, the only truly bad landing is a landing you can't walk away from.

[@MrDdaland]

From a Mechanic/ Engineer standpoint. Did you break yourself? Did you tear up the Aircraft? Then the landings were fine

[@mule6689]

you did good. to hard on yourself

[@sammiklson2349]

Great work love your vlogs

[@AntManBee19]

Hi. Could you go over the two screens and the iPad and what they can do. I know you probably covered them during install but it would be nice to have a recap especially the iPad.

[@GlensHangar]

I've already filmed that episode - I think it will come out in November?

[@derekh989]

Hey Glen, longtime fan of your content and fellow video producer. For what it's worth, I recently purchased the Insta360 camera with the one inch sensors, and it's the first 360 camera that I think is usable in terms of having a "professional" image quality, and may be a good fit for cockpit or potentially even wing footage. I also bought the GoPro Hero 11 and am liking it so far, but find myself reaching for the Insta360 and DJI Pocket 2 more.

[@GlensHangar]

Thanks for the tip - I've been testing the Hero11, slightly better firmware than the Hero10 so the 11 is a little less glitchy. I have an Osmo Action 3 on order, and I'm going to try the Hero11 mini when it releases as well. I'll probably do a comparison video when I get them all here. I really want the GoPro Hero11 to work, if it proves to be less glitchy with fewer (maybe even zero) random shutdowns / freezes / etc it would be the go to camera for this series. I really like how I can jam timecode across multiple GoPros and synch them all in post with sound recorded externally on a Tentacle that is also providing the timecode. If the Osmo Action 3 had that timecode functionality it would probably be a better camera right out of the box, even though the picture quality is slightly lower.

[@jmitchell3]

I’ve always wondered why Canadian registered aircraft don’t use numbers in their C registration code like we do in the states?

[@GlensHangar]

Well... Fewer countries use numbers: Cuba, Russia (and former Soviet territories), North Korea, China, and a couple others - Most countries use letters, and Canada uses the same setup as all the other Commonwealth countries.

[@scugog6184]

Hey... your coming to my town!

[@MamaStyles]

Trent U Alumni here...love your town and miss it 💕

[@JerryB507]

I'm not a pilot so both landings looked good to me. What's the difference between a Fly Out and a Fly In?

[@bartofilms]

Hey Glen, Is there a difference between a "fly out' and a 'fly in'? Maybe a fly out is meant fo be a quick meet & greet + lunch where a fly in is a larger event? That last landing wasn't bad. ADA and minor / gusty crosswinds remind you that you are a Pilot in command of a plane in 3D! Along with some more practice, have you done any of the Dan Gryder 'DMMS' calculations or training? He's kinda Gruff at times, I.K. Cheers.

[@GlensHangar]

I'm kind of fuzzy on it - fly out seems to mean that it's organised outside the airport that everyone is meeting at, while fly in is organised by the airport everyone is meeting at?

[@bartofilms]

@@GlensHangar IDK… I’ve only got 3hrs total time, and one of those was a in a RedBird sim… 😬…

[@WingsOverTO]

I always thought a fly out was when a bunch of people meet at an airport and then fly together to another airport. And a fly in is just people all flying into one airport from wherever they are. Not sure if that’s the official definitions but that’s how I think of it.

[@samiam619]

@@WingsOverTO To me a fly out is when the Army has taken over the Capitol, Post Office and Radio Station and they are on their way to the Airport. Fly OUT!😊

[@WingsOverTO]

@@samiam619 I believe the technical term for that situation is "FLY AWAY!" :)

[@johnfitzpatrick2469]

G, day Glen from Sydney Australia. The landing KIAS: is that causing the 'porpoise effects' or variable winds? In the U.S it's 'no factor' is that the same as 'no conflict' for traffic separation? 🌏🇭🇲

[@t-housetv7580]

Stupid question: Why was this a band landing?

[@GlensHangar]

I bounced - hit the runway too hard and the plane bounced back into the air.

[@t-housetv7580]

@@GlensHangar I see. Love your channel.

[@markthibault8579]

Thanks for sharing. While your first landing was ok and your corrections worked, the speed looked a bit fast. Have you considered an additional analog airspeed and/or AoA display, perhaps on the glarshield? I find that glancing at a needle, or some other quick indicator, is easier to read quickly and ensure I'm at the correct approach speed, rather than trying to read a number off a relatively small speed tape on a digital display.

[@GlensHangar]

I was 65 over the fence which is on the lower side of the range - I could drag it in over the numbers at 40, but for a standard landing there's no reason for that. I really was overthinking landing with an audience, and then startled by the person running around at the end of the runway.

[@markthibault8579]

@@GlensHangar Seems like a good speed. At flaps 20 and flaps 30, what's the respective stall speeds in your aircraft with the VGs? I fly a 172N with a VG kit and the 180hp STC and it still flies well into the mid 50kt range.

[@GlensHangar]

@@markthibault8579 20º - 33 knots 30º - 32 Knots 40º - 30 Knots But I'm still not comfortable at those speeds, working on it but it may take a while.

[@jello657]

@@GlensHangar oh my those are low speeds indeed. I'd love to go backwards in slow flight with a moderate headwind one day, you have the plane to do it! Slow flight at 3000 or better will be super safe and might help you get comfortable at those ridiculously slow speeds your plane can fly at. By the way, besides butter tarts, how's the food at Lindsay?

[@MBArchitects1]

Are you using NUVITE?

[@GlensHangar]

Yeah - but I haven't really been progressing to much with the polish. I recently put on John's 360 coating so the finish doesn't get worse before I get a chance next summer to really tackle the polishing.

[@davefrayne6468]

Does your front oleo need air?

[@GlensHangar]

It's in spec -

[@GaryMCurran]

You know what they say, Glen, any landing you can walk away from is a good landing, any landing where you can use the airplane again is a great landing. Sure, it may not have been a greaser, but I didn't think any of those were 'arrivals' either. Don't beat yourself up.

[@amyeagleton697]

Looked like a good day for it! How long till the weather turns?

[@samiam619]

Any day now! I’m in Michigan north of where Glen lives and since it’s after July 4, snow could come tomorrow!

[@murlthomas2243]

Any landing you can walk away from… you can and will do better.

[@DurhamFlyer]

It makes no sense but… you can have a gong show of a flight, but you grease that landing and feel like a million bucks. You have a great flight, do everything well, land a bit too hard and feel like crap. This is the way it is.

[@NRajah]

I am sure someone once said, any landing you can walk away from is a good one. Of course that may have been during WWII.

[@Sixtyten6010]

Can't have good landings with out those bad landings along the way... And as others have stated. If you and the airframe make it back to earth unscathed is it really a "bad" landing. Your not in a STOL competition. The only person judging your landings is yourself.

[@jerryv9138]

Bad Landings??? NONONONONONOOOO!!! ANY Landing you can walk away from is a Good Landing. Any landing they can use the PLANE AGAIN... is a GREA landing!! (SORRY!!! HAD TOO!!!) I add a procedure I learned when I transitioned from Tricycle Gear to Tail Dragger. On Final, as you rotate, if you feel you are high, add a little bit of power to restabilize the aircraft. It doesn't add much to the landing distance, but can correct several 'oops' when landing! And... don't forget to close your Fight Plan. =) Happy Flying!!

[@johnmirbach2338]

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