Bad Movie Beatdown (w/ Welshy): The Texas Chainsaw Massacre - The Beginning (REVIEW)

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=Originally posted August 8th, 2011; Re-edited version=
Film Brain joins forces with Welshy to saw into this prequel to the Michael Bay remake. Season 3, Episode 20.
#TexasChainsawMassacre #JordanaBrewster #RLeeErmey

[@FilmBrain]

This episode was originally posted in August 2011, and was filmed during London Film and Comic Con, and this re-post ties into the release of prequel Leatherface on VOD on Friday. This version runs 42 seconds shorter than the original, thanks mostly to tightening up the pacing and film clips. As a concession to KZbin, I did trim back two or three of the most violent moments - no shots are deleted, more just removing frames or shortening them - although I don't think it changes the tone overall. There's a joke here I probably would have cut, but it would have deleted quite a few cameos in the process. Hope you enjoy! And before you ask... yes, the other one's coming up soon.

[@Obiwan1994Kenobi-iv4jf]

Boy, imagine if Halloween 3D WAS made. How terrible to watch would it be?

[@NightmareLyra]

I assume the scene in question is the rape joke? I get that deleting all the cameos would suck, but honestly I think it would be better without it for the sake of staying consistent with your criticism of the movie being pointlessly exploitative and mean-spiritied. I know you guys probably play up your reactions a bit for comedy, but that joke coupled with your criticism makes your points come off as kinda hypocritical, even if the movie do seem more concerned about being "shocking" than being good or scary for sure

[@FilmBrain]

That would be the scene. I wouldn't call it one of my best moments, but I did argue to myself that the joke was more about them misinterpreting what we were saying, and it wasn't meant as a shock moment but more as a play on how loud we can sometimes get when doing crossovers in hotels.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

Thank Christ you trimmed the violent stuff a little. I'm not a prude when it comes to slasher movie gore, but *god* this movie in particular has the worst kind of gore.

[@GatorRay]

+FilmBrain 11:48 And I thought it was bad when Spongebob & SuperMarioLogan were doing episodes/videos dedicated to torture porn of certain characters. Now I see where they got the idea from.

[@IsaacWhittakerDakin]

I know Welshy doesn't do videos any more but I'd love it if Film Brain and Welshy reunited again, would be a more anticipated crossover than Infinity War!

[@11Sweeneytodd]

Made me remember how much I miss welshy

[@diegobareno5820]

What happened to him?

[@GatorRay]

+DiegoBareno Yeah that's what I want to know.

[@ravager48]

He quit doing reviews.

[@TheVormspire]

Diego Bareno Morning

[@diegobareno5820]

"A mystery no one ever asked about!" The Solo movie in a nutshell.

[@riokamichika1101]

And also X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

[@billybarnett9518]

Both Solo and X Men Origins were inspired by books.

[@devinharbert6071]

@@riokamichika1101 Damn u Skip Woods

[@mercenaryknight5419]

Ron Howard is far from a "hack director."

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

@lrig snart how is Ron Howard a hack? You’re a clown

[@Chris-ci8vs]

Miss Welshy heaps. Hope he makes a return.

[@ColetheAero]

26:11- Boy was that line a blast from the past, I still remember reading an article stating that Tom Atkins was gonna come back for Halloween 3D.

[@multitudeofidols]

So glad it never happened. On the other hand, they're retreating back to the original series with another retcon and bringing back Laurie Strode again.

[@ColetheAero]

I hope they title the movie H40.

[@Lava91point0]

"It's a puppet!!!" Oh god you beautiful bastards. Love you for using that one 😁

[@TheBattlesword]

There is kind of a explanation to the movie being this way: reportedly John Leibesman wanted to go more into Leatherface's past and if anything make a tasteful origin, but executives didn't like his vision and demanded that he crank up the blood to inhumane levels while cutting out massive chunks of his movie. Then again, the screenwriter did also give us Batman and Robin and the Will Smith I Robot movie, so I don't know what to think

[@diegobareno5820]

Matthew: Ewww, Why did he need to do that? Me: So he can let us know that that's his gun.

[@wcapewell3089]

"Meatbags" Who else wants to see a texas chainsaw movie featuring hk47 from knights of the old republic?

[@Etherman7]

You know what irritates me the most? When he kills "2", he absolutely ruins the meat. Aren't they cannibals?

[@Genesis_1984]

I usually watch your videos and never comment but I actually really really enjoyed this review.

[@FilmBrain]

Thanks!

[@Shiirow]

We all know this movie series takes place in the Bayformers Universe, Leatherfaces chainsaw is a Decepticon in disguise.

[@archivedaccount5990]

Jesus... If that's true, then the massacre of innocent civilians from Dark of the Moon makes a bit more sense in context.

[@NimanWielder01]

"I think he was talking about Vietnam." "Not much difference, really." Was that a reference to the filming of the original dinner scene?

[@sebastianemond5313]

1:43 - 1:51 Perfect words to describe the Michael Bay Ninja Turtles Movies.

[@FilmBrain]

All too fitting given Liebesman directed the first of those.

[@archivedaccount5990]

To be fair, the second Ninja Turtles movie was but of an improvement. Not by much, but it's something.

[@LaineMann]

But that was actually good.

[@devinharbert6071]

Matthew I don’t think Jonathan Liebesman is a Terrible Director Because Battle Los Angeles And Wrath Of The Titans were Good

[@sebastianemond5313]

@@devinharbert6071 Maybe Battle: Los Angeles, but I don't know about Wrath of the Titans.

[@megumintheexplosionqueen297]

I cannot stand this movie. This (along with the Saw and Hostel movies) is one of the reasons why I hate torture porn.

[@Tubewings]

One of my all-time favorite Bad Movie Beatdowns.

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

It's unfortunate that none of the sequels have lived up to the original film, but maybe this never should have been a franchise to begin with.

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

Also, I'm surprised that you guys didn't point out Matt Bomer or Lee Tergesen. I understand that the former wasn't really well known, but the latter had had quite a long and successful career, though that was more in TV than in film.

[@Barbayat79]

I never really got this torture porn stuff. I did like the Saw movies, even the gorier ones, but I always had some character I was rooting for (for varying reasons) or had a story going on that interested me (yeah, even six, because I wanted to see what shit Hoffman was up to and was hoping Young Indiana Jones got a better ending). I am always seriously sad when people don't make it out. Probably could've done with less gore in most cases, but what's the point to make a movie about characters you know are just going to be horribly murdered? Even worse by people who only do it because they are evil? Jigsaw fascinated me, because he had these weird ideas and didn't do it because he enjoyed torturing people, he honestly believed he was doing what's best for them. I really dug the entire storyline (of varying quality) just to see what happened to our "killers" and each time I wanted to see people make it out and the story behind them.

[@icemanlj2k7]

Hey Film Brain, are you and Welshy getting together to review the new leatherface movie? Complete the trifecta of reviews haha 😂

[@FilmBrain]

We met up fairly recently and discussed it, although I seem to recall the reviews for the latest prequel are fairly decent. If not, we'll have to cover another Texas Chainsaw film.

[@mercenaryknight5419]

One of your best crossover reviews. The 2017 Leatherface prequel to the original is no better. Making a prequel in this franchise is a stupid idea.

[@toqkaizogou1636]

Yet I bet they're gonna end up doing another prequel, this time set in the latest requel continuity.

[@edgarnello9165]

I always thought there was something wrong with me for not liking this movie while everyone i knew loved it. I guess i just didnt have bad taste.

[@Seanatonin]

More of these crossovers, Film Brain! You and Welshy are a hoot together. Heck, get MikeJ to join in

[@iKadaj]

i had the same reaction about the cow lol. have a dog in peril in a movie and omg the poor dog oh no, and animals getting killed is more sad than humans and blahblah, but when it comes to cows for some reason it's funny or something to see them always getting run over by cars and blown around by tornadoes and whatever. ugh.

[@sebastianemond5313]

16:26 Then get ready for the third prequel, LeatherFace, Welshy, cause it's gonna hurt. So much. And don't forget the Nightmare on Elm Street and I know What you Did Last Summer remakes.

[@TheSkully343]

Welshy before his regeneration.

[@wsdtime]

I don't know how but how do he get in the car before the car took off I guess he has the power teleport now

[@tylerskiss]

They weren't hiding the fact that it was R. Lee Ermey, they were hiding his face so they wouldn't have to do some crappy digital de-aging. Problem is people's voices change as they age, so he wouldn't have the same voice back then.

[@PIMPsupremacy]

R. Lee Ermey was the only enjoyable thing in this movie. Everytime he was on screen, I was entertained.

[@nomduclavier]

"He's misunderstood." 😩

[@papershadow]

I'm gonna be honest, just the footage referenced in this review made me nauseous, despite not even having watched most of the footage. It's a serious low that just the spirit and idea of this movie coudl make me feel thi sick

[@tto198]

papershadow69 I can relate. I kept my eyes closed for most of the scenes from the movie and some of the descriptions definitely made me noxious.

[@thekenny331]

I feel so dumb, totally thought welshy was wearing an (ice box) hat till 18min into the video

[@AshenAlbaz0079]

Dude, forget not seeing Leatherface hiding behind the car...how in the FUCK did she not heat a revving chainsaw right behind her?

[@samuelbarber6177]

I never understood why they made this a prequel. The plot is basically the same as the original (okay, every Texas Chainsaw film) with the obvious dead meat characters. And even then, it’s not even like this leads in to the events of the remake (which would be interesting if one of the characters was the one who committed suicide in the remake). They could have just done a sequel and it would likely have been a lot better an idea than this prequel.

[@multitudeofidols]

Let's thank our lucky stars that _Halloween 3D_ never got made.

[@03bgood]

So glad they went with Halloween 2018, instead. A sequel that follows the original but ignores all the other sequels made after it. Sure, it had issues but honestly H2018 is so much better than most of the other sequels in that franchise.

[@ScreamingScallop]

22:53 PLUS Leatherface somehow SNEAKS into the car and quietly closes the door without being noticed AND waits until just the right moment (by the Rules of Halfassed Drama) to kill his final victim. This isn't stupidity; it's cynicism presuming the audience is so incredibly stupid as to eat this shit up. Granted, there may be some basis for that presumption, but I wonder how the diminishing returns for TCM knockoffs and Michael Bay crapmakes is faring.

[@Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble]

This was great until Alison showed up.

[@lanacharara9631]

I respect this review so much i hope it shows from this line. So much.

[@srbarkerchan]

R.I.P. R. Lee Ermey. You deserved better.

[@clearspira]

Its nice to watch a review with two of the ''old guard'' of the Channel Awesome. I went back there after a long break recently and I recognised hardly anyone. They're not bad necessarily, but they are nobodies in comparison to the guys and girls from what I like to call the ''Kickassia'' generation. You might be saying ''so what does that matter?'' and I would normally agree, but when your current crop of creators have the presence of just about anyone else with a webcam on KZbin, it becomes less ''Channel Awesome'' and more ''Channel Average''. Its sad tbh, I loved that site once.

[@FilmBrain]

I would say that's a rather harsh assessment, I think the new guard are solid in their own right. I've recently filmed a new crossover with more recent contributor that you'll see down the line.

[@clearspira]

I would actually be very happy to be surprised on this so I am looking forward to it.

[@karenelizabeth1590]

And CA would still have all that old talent if Mike Michaud and the Walkers weren't dicks.

[@TheSkully343]

I wouldn't say they're terrible as much as it is the net just has more to offer than the 'ANGRY CRITIC' phase that was huge in the late 2000s and early 2010s when everyone wanted to be the next Spoony or Nostalgia Critic. People have moved on and interests have shifted since then. Its not 2008 anymore and a lot of the old guard have either moved on or kept up with their niche fandoms But even then I wouldn't say that its for lack of trying on the new generation's part, if nothing else its up to them to develop their own style and find a footing of their own, especially given that some of them are actually pretty awesome (I say this as a fan of Lotus Prince and Il Neige) But again, you're looking at people of the old guard who've had years to improve since their beginnings like Film Brain (Professor Celluloid anyone?) and most of the other CA contributors vs people who're probably only one or two years into their craft by this point. Its a matter of taste really, you either like them or you don't.

[@mathunit1]

Karen Elizabeth Only Mike is the dick and forced the Walkers to do those decisions to become his scapegoat.

[@JThom529]

I like Saw too, Welshy. I do admit though that that franchise is more of a thriller than actual horror. Despite it being rife with plot holes and illogical inconsistencies.....I enjoy every second of it 😈. Still though, better than the shit hostel and this piece of crap

[@I_like_cheesecake24]

7:10 *how it feels to chew 5 gum*

[@yukiskyzero1313]

A hilarious crossover, this is haha. xD Despite the gorefest, I enjoy the fun you two have haha. xD

[@1sttobylopez]

The Happening Mark Wahlberg reference with film Brian, "what?" "no!" that was funny and not bad with the M Night Shyamalan twist at the end but... What the fuck is a welshy?

[@KaoticReach1999]

They literally couldn't even get the basic concept of Leatherface VS a gang of bikers right, it's just squandered smh Though I wouldn't trust these writers with that..

[@catbatrat1760]

13:43 "The group try to escape but are completely useless."😂😂😂

[@hiattgrey9161]

RIP R. Lee Ermey.

[@dig4587]

so basically leather face is even more like Jason now?

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

Why has no one learned form one of the best movies of all time Jaws? Show less and build up, use music and suspense to show how scared we should be.

[@robogreek3157]

Maybe its just me but this idiot director could of potentioally made this film half way decent if he made the oldest brother, the one who has the Chris Kyle heart....as our hero Hes good looking, hes a hardened soldier skilled at combat, and we already had a female as the protagonist in the first film...but..NOOOOO He had to be killed first This movie was soooo fucking stupid Imagine if that dude went head to head with the Hewitt family and his skills is how the one guy gets crippled, the sheriff gets his teeth bashed in, and maybe...just maybe he could of resulted in Leatherface becoming disfigured......JESUS!! Im not even a Hollywood director and my ending is better

[@davebooshty299]

and it ends with john larroquettes voiceover too which at least is a fun throwback nod.

[@docdave15]

This movie is so bad it makes me want to dislike the video. I don't know what my logic behind it is but... um... yeah. I have no problem with gore in a horror movie but with how bleak and mean-spirited this movie is, it takes any morbid fun the audience and myself might have had.

[@citabria808]

That pool water at 4:59 and 5:12 is scary, looks like putrid slime...

[@emothrash7767]

OMG Was that Torchwood in The Background of that chicks room

[@polk-e-dot8177]

>w> did you think we wouldnt catch you saying "original" @ 5:37

[@Ubermensch9240]

Cinema Snob would like a word with you.

[@TheCommonGentry]

what the heck??? LOL 25 mins LOL great THE HAPPENING reference. thanks ;'D

[@devinharbert6071]

I mean the fucking Texas chainsaw franchise for so whatever.

[@retrogamereaper]

Oh god. How did they trick Lee Tergesen into being in this?

[@Final_Flash1]

Why did Welshy stop doing reviews? Do you know Film brain?

[@icemanlj2k7]

Film Warrior if I recall correctly it was a combination of depression and burnout that led to him no longer wanting to work on making videos. He's in a good,place now and has never rules out returning to making reviews, he's just said that it will be when he is ready if he ever does decide to return

[@GirlYouDontKnow-rx3lm]

I salute you guys for calling out the gratuitous gore porn. I don't care if it is fictional! What kind of sick sadist would find that enjoyable?

[@cleverkev79]

I keep waiting for the bad movie beatdown of Monster's Ball.

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

Clever Kev a universally acclaimed movie 🤡🤦🏿‍♂️

[@toqkaizogou1636]

6:08 And now we're on Movie 9...

[@Dim4323]

And now TMNT reboot

[@michaelhodgkinson6779]

22:52 - 23:01 just makes me laugh

[@samuelbarber6177]

I’ve never really taken to the gore porn stuff. Gore, like many things, can be done well, especially in horror films, but also like many things, if done too much it loses all effect. The original movie utilised very little of the stuff and it was far more disturbing than anything in this film. Heck, Psycho was black and white and it was terrifying, at least for a 1960s audience. Gore can be utilised well. It can be done to shock, disturb or even disgust the audience, possibly show how depraved the villain is, and it can be a little freaky. But there is such a thing as going overboard. Eventually, it ceases to be disturbing, scary or even that shocking. It’s just rather disgusting, and it really shocks me that anyone would want to watch such a thing.

[@GradnLordTad]

0:48 ...Was that Masako?

[@FilmBrain]

Yes.

[@GradnLordTad]

Film Brain Awesome. I couldn't see him very well in the shot, but it sounded like him. Then I saw him later on with the others, of course. lol

[@LaineMann]

@@FilmBrain Who?

[@Haze420_]

This movie is disapointing, at least it's better than the shitty 3D movie

[@DalekOfChaos666]

Will Texas Chainsaw 3D review be up too?

[@FilmBrain]

In a week or so.

[@michaeliv284]

But Masako!

[@devinharbert6071]

I understand your opinion on the franchise, to be honest , I like the first 2 entries, but I will say that this franchise is just downright convoluted, this the reason I hate fucking prequels, they don’t give the franchise any motivation, for fuck sake.

[@chrislawson1988]

Just cause they showed his birth don't mean he's not a monster

[@thewinner7382]

Whatever happened to Welshy?

[@MadiBendy]

Love this video. 😂

[@jonathansefcik473]

I liked the 2003 TCM remake but this movie was just unnecessary and tryhard.

[@archivedaccount5990]

Admittedly, while I don't like Chainsaw 2003 all that much, I can see as to why people might. However, I can agree that The Beginning is a completely tryhard and offers nothing other than shock value.

[@lukassrensen4788]

I personally really like both F13 (2009) and TCM (2003)

[@NidorinoAlliance]

Me too, except I probably like the Nightmare on Elm Street remake a lot more.

[@jonathansefcik473]

Niall Hagan I agree

[@chrislawson1988]

Dead meat 4 is wow why would he want to leave that same with dead meat 2 even 4 is a little better looking than 1 yeah!

[@Alucard-A-La-Carte]

MasakoX?!?! UNexpected!

[@devinharbert6071]

Is the reason u say the saw franchise is unremarkable because critics hate them, I actually have to disagree with u Matthew , I get your point though, I understand why u say hostel is bad though , that shit is just fucked up.

[@deathmetalelitist666]

I have to disagree with you on this movie because the story was well done and told the origin story very well also the characters were likable and interesting, and the Vietnam War plot point I enjoyed, finally I liked how this movie and the remake tell the story with a beginning middle and end.

[@shellbacksclub]

R we supposed to know who Welshy is? Is this like a big get?😞

[@FilmBrain]

Welshy is one of Channel Awesome's former contributors. He used to do the Saw retrospectives, among others. He''s also appeared in my work on several occasions.

[@MsDjessa]

3:53 69, that's how many likes this video has as I'm writing this. SPOOKY!!

[@Chris-ci8vs]

I still think this film and the one before it was fantastic. Still love the review here though.

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

Ding Dong Fucking L

[@deathmetalelitist666]

Agree

[@Ubermensch9240]

These guys hate Game of Thrones for its violence.