Bad UK Driving Vol 348, I Eat Humble Pie Because I was Wrong

[@ryl0n]

Loved that Attenborough quote, "the world appears to have a green tint to it" hahaha, spot on. I'm with you on the roundabouts, it really isn't that hard, you give way to anyone approaching from the right, if you get there first, pull out, and force someone to brake or take evasive action, then you are in the wrong, end of story.

[@asw16177]

Seems to me that the issue with that roundabout is how blind it is and people's speed is just too fast to react properly to follow the highway code rules. For me, you're completely right with your summary of the incidents. But you can see why accidents happen when idiots argue against it.

[@johncranna9427]

The car ahead of Tony was driving too fast with regard to the lack of visibility. If you can't see well, then you slow down. But LDC must be aware of preamble to rule 103 "The rules in The Highway Code do not give you the right of way in any circumstance, but they advise you when you should give way to others. Always give way if it can help to avoid an incident."

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

@@johncranna9427 V. Good. Another HC quote that packs a powerful punch.

[@suziforester]

@@AndrewWhite-fu7bn Ha ha ha ha ha ha

[@kilbonrobert]

Highway code Always give priority to the traffic coming from the right, unless you have been directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights.

[@graemepinnock]

You are spot on. Rule 185

[@PS-fl7et]

And road markings in this instance say that drivers should wait for anyone already on the roundabout TSRGD 2016 Schedule 9 Part 6 Item 6 Vehicular traffic approaching a roundabout with a small central island or approaching a junction indicated by the marking shown in item 5 of this sign table should give way at, or immediately beyond, the line to traffic circulating on the carriageway of the roundabout

[@figaro501]

With you on the roundabout rule Tony. Commenters saying you are wrong are obviously the regular rule breakers. Read the Highway Code people!

[@paulgreen758]

agreed

[@MrFrog_]

On Ni Direct 'The rules for using roundabouts Give way The most important rule - when entering a roundabout, give way to traffic on the roundabout, unless road markings or signs say otherwise. If the way is clear keep moving. Stopping at a clear roundabout slows traffic and can cause frustrating delays'

[@davesouthword1298]

“Give way to traffic APPROACHING from the right.” Approaching means they’re not there yet. Angry Cockney’s equivalency of looking at the roundabout as a straight road and T junction fits perfectly. If you can’t go through the roundabout without impeding the car from the right then you don’t go.

[@houstonceng]

There is a situation many times at a T junction I go through nearly every day. It is a mini roundabout. I approach from the south on the “stroke of the T”. The cross bar of the T is east to west. There is a car travelling west to east but indicating to go south. He gives way to me because I am on his right. Unfortunately, there is another car approaching from the east. So I give way to him because of the “ give way to traffic on your right” rule. He stops because of the guy turning south on his right. We are all only a few feet from our respective give way markings. So we are all stopped. Who goes first ? Well, most of the time, the guy turning south does. I then go behind him and turn east and then the guy going west carries on. However, on a number of occasions, I see cars that have been T Boned usually one of the guys turning right because two of them try to go together to break the deadlock. There ought to be an extra rule at such junctions defining who should go first in the same all giving way situations.

[@sillybait1329]

100% Tony

[@johnfh]

A grat upload, Tony. "The self-entitlement car wax" is incredible! Enjoy your weekend.

[@lazaroszindanopoulos6826]

G'day mate you are right about the rule of the roundabout's. About the first come first serve it's wrong they should give up the license's. Keep doing right way. P.S I am h.g.v driver never lost point for 40 years and never had fine 👍

[@shaunmagill8804]

Humble Pie, they cant, they cant drive themselves, your 100% correct Tony

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

Humble Pie. The original 'Supergroup' with Peter Frampton, Steve Marriott, formed in 1969. Still going, but with many personnel changes over the years,

[@suziforester]

boring

[@blxtothis]

Absolutely with you on the roundabout regs, “First Come First Served” only applies if the car to the right has reached the broken white lines. the Highway Code clearly states that all Road users should proceed with caution and speeding in when there is a car more advanced to the left is clearly not safe. If any car is approaching the exit to one’s right as you arrive, you’d have to be really daft to carry on regardless.

[@neilbrown9396]

Thanks Tony by watching your videos you have made me a better driver

[@Hetton53EL]

I agree with you. He didn't give way and the look on his face said it all. He was looking at you not the pigging road

[@plbingham]

you are spot on with the roundabout assessment.

[@garrymillstones517]

I agree with you on the roundabout. The distortion of the camera makes it look like you are further away than you actually are. But if you slow it down you can see you both enter the roundabout at almost the exact same time.

[@johncranna9427]

Exactly! LDC takes ages to break and then finds he's on a collision course and has to break harder. That could easily have been turned into a non-event by LDC by using his breaks earlier.

[@grahamnutt8958]

Another good one, Tony. Lane Hogs are one of my pet peeves. I'm with you ref: the last clip but we're not meant to encourage that 😂😂😂.

[@andycox2223]

Hi Tony. If on Test a candidate pulled out on a roundabout like that, they would fail. If they force another car to change speed or direction they fail.

[@derykhawkins2199]

I used to live and drive in Sutton but now I live in the Philippines. Out here the motorbikes buzz around you like mosquitoes. You have to look in ALL your mirrors before changing lanes or turning a corner. A bit scary. The good thing is I have never seen any road rage.

[@RussellCockman]

I’m with you, Tony! 👍

[@tanderson278]

Tony, you and I passed our driving tests about the same time (1984). Do you remember the Highway Code rules on roundabouts then? Rule 102 - (page 26) "When entering a roundabout, give way to any traffic on your IMMEDIATE right unless road markings indicate otherwise; but keep moving if the way is clear" Rule 105 - (page 28 "When in a roundabout, look out for and show CONSIDERATION to other vehicles crossing in front of you.." Rule 107 - (page 28) Watch out for pedal cyclists and for long vehicles which may have to take a different course, both on the approach and in the roundabout" Has the use of roundabouts fundamentally changed since we started driving? Basically, I have been driving a few months longer then you, I started on my 17th Birthday as a delivery van driver in London (for10yrs), but I don't have then same problems with roundabouts as you, probably because when I am approaching a roundabout (minis most issues) I have no problem if a driver ahead of me joins the roundabout before me, I let them complete their manoeuvre without issue.

[@johncranna9427]

If only Tony was as relaxed as you and Ashley Neal. He really made a meal of it and could have easily slowed down to let that car pass easily. To back you up, there is a preamble to general rules 103-158 that says "The rules in The Highway Code do not give you the right of way in any circumstance, but they advise you when you should give way to others. Always give way if it can help to avoid an incident." And I think we should go back to using the wording 'imnediate' right. I wonder why they changed it

[@tanderson278]

@@johncranna9427 In my view Rules 184-186 need to be reworked. They have lost the simple message of drive carefully with consideration to others.

[@johncranna9427]

@@tanderson278 I agree.

[@allanmanley6340]

The Highway Code #185 and #188 185 When reaching the roundabout you should give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all look forward before moving off to make sure traffic in front has moved off. 188 Mini-roundabouts. Approach these in the same way as normal roundabouts. All vehicles MUST pass round the central markings except large vehicles which are physically incapable of doing so. Remember, there is less space to manoeuvre and less time to signal. Avoid making U-turns at mini-roundabouts. Beware of others doing this. Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10(1) & 16(1)

[@minigamers1255]

Great video Tony Just as entertaining as the lady 347 VOLs That pie looks like something an Audi would make

[@kungfutuber]

9:19 They can also.. wait in the traffic for a safer gap! 10:49 Also the van in front of you blocking traffic on the roundabout 12:45 Maybe that van driver saw the van attempting it and was trying to prevent them from doing just that?

[@rodmcleod4805]

Have you ever seen the 50's British film " Hell Drivers" starring among others Stanley Baker? The lorries were a lot smaller then,but the same driving standards apply.

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

A classic movie. Also with Sean Connery in a small role plus many others who would go on to fame and fortune. Google for a cast list.

[@johncranna9427]

@@AndrewWhite-fu7bn and Capt Mainwaring!!

[@Odysseuss.]

We have a series of traffic calming access roads in our estate where the priorities are REVERSED eg to turn off you follow the road off and give way to continue on. If you are LEAVING then you are already on the "road" out. The number of people cannot understand that they are meant to give way [across the "give way marked junction"] if the wish to carry straight on is increasing no doubt through in the post pandemic "entitlement" mental health issue. Oh it's been like this since the Estate was laid out 22 years ago!!

[@stephenhargreaves9011]

Highway code rule 185 supports you. "give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights" - note "Approaching" from the right.

[@RonSeymour1]

I think that you will find that the satnav is more accurate than your speedo which is generally a few MPH overstated. A satnav needs to know your position and respond quickly so it will calculate the time and distance travelled correctly.

[@ianmason.]

There's filtering applied to the speed displayed by GPSes to stop the displayed speed jittering all over the place (specifically a 1st order low pass filter, or if you're really lucky a well designed Kalman filter). This has the result that the displayed speed can both overshoot the actual speed and also lag behind reality. My dashcam GPS will display me as moving at as much as 7 mph when the video shows that I've come to a complete stop and only settle to zero a second or two later. If you watch the raw output of a completely static GPS receiver it will show it's position to be apparently jumping around a bit second by second when it obviously isn't. That kind of error, and other larger ones that creep in when you're moving, make the filtering necessary to provide a smooth speed display that doesn't jitter around the true speed. If you're travelling at a constant speed out in the open (no buildings, mountains or forests to bounce radio signals around) GPS will give a pretty accurate speed once it has had a few seconds to settle. Under other conditions (recent acceleration, recent deceleration, physical clutter that can affect the path radio signals take) it ought to be taken with a pinch of salt.

[@lefthandedspanner]

when I first learned to drive a motorbike, one thing the instructors drilled into us was to give people plenty of time to see you when filtering, and never filter on the left also, the wagon driver at 16:05 is breaking the law - on any road with separated carriageways and three or more lanes, HGVs are prohibited from using the outside lane

[@muttznutts7465]

this is not true. The outside lane rule is motorway regulations and only if the vehicle is mechanically or electronicly speed restricted. So basically anything 3500kg or over with a taco fitted. That rule does not apply to A roads, private owned and operated motorhomes that do not require a taco etc. That was a normal class road and the speed limit for that part of the road and the truck is 50mph, in any lane.

[@djglowuk]

When reaching the roundabout you should give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all

[@rodmcleod4805]

Fully agree with you on roundabout procedure. Some use of indicators now and then might be a help. Must think they're in German built cars...

[@suewilde8984]

Keep on keeping on mate In Aus we travel in the centre lane due to roos ... your roundabouts are a bit difficult for us to understand but you explain things quite well even us ex pats can comprehend 😊

[@suewilde8984]

Would love to go for a drive when we come back to the UK we often giggle away at your of talking just like us 😂

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

Not many roos in Richmond.

[@suewilde8984]

@@AndrewWhite-fu7bn nope but where we live tons lol

[@andreashaynes3346]

Many thanks for sharing this entertaining video Tony. Some outrageous driving and cyclists/motorcyclists weren’t much better. Take care and catch you soon 👍👍👍

[@RonDeeks]

If certain people can't grasp such a simple rule as at a roundabout, it makes me worry about who you are about to meet at the next one.

[@DeeSock]

You want Highway Code rules? I list them below. A car that is partially across a give way line is still considered to be on the minor road. The give way line signifies the boundary between the minor road and the major road (roundabout is generally the major road). Until the entire vehicle has crossed this line, it remains on the minor road and must give way to traffic on the major road. A car is considered to be on the main road when the entire vehicle has cleared the give way line. This means that all parts of the car, including any overhanging parts, must be on the other side of the line before the driver can proceed without giving way. It's crucial to understand this distinction to avoid accidents and ensure road safety. Always exercise caution when approaching a give way line, and fully yield to traffic on the major road until you have safely merged into the flow of traffic. It breaks several Highway Code rules if you intentionally speed onto and almost ram a driver already on a roundabout for example- Rule 126"...leave enough space between you and the vehicle in front so that you can pull up safely if it suddenly slows down or stops." Rule 172"....You MUST give way to traffic on the main road when emerging from a junction with broken white lines across the road." Rule 184"....On approaching a roundabout take notice and act on all the information available to you..adjust your speed and position to fit in with traffic conditions" Rule 185"....give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings" (such as the give way line to yield to all traffic) Fortunately you realize not to cross broken lines between lanes without giving way to traffic in that lane - instead of almost ramming them out of the way. If only drivers did the same for broken lines horizontally across the road too indicating to yield to traffic in the road they are entering There's a case, "Starks v Chief Constable of Hertfordshire", where judge only considered the roundabout priority wording in the Highway Code, rather than looking at the underlying legislation. The judge had to consider whether "priority to the right" extended to vehicles yet to reach the roundabout. He eventually concluded that it strictly did not, though if the driver to right, and yet to reach the roundabout, is driving so as to not be able give way then it would be advisable to give way to them "as a matter of restraint". Just as if a car tries to squeeze into your lane it is advisable to give way rather than try to almost ram them. And the underlying legislation is also clear on this, in that priority to the right ONLY applies to vehicles already on the roundabout. There is good reason for this. It means you have to moderate your approach speed so that you can stop if a car emerges from your left before you reach the roundabout. This is the traffic calming effect of a roundabout. If in doubt, search for TSRGD 2016 Schedule 9 Part 6 Item 6: "Diagram 1003.3 Vehicular traffic approaching a roundabout with a small central island or approaching a junction indicated by the marking shown in item 5 of this sign table should give way at, or immediately beyond, the line to traffic circulating on the carriageway of the roundabout"

[@MickHodgson-q1k]

Really ??????

[@suziforester]

It's handy to keep if you have trouble sleeping x

[@DeeSock]

@@suziforester in short the court has ruled it is not priority to right for roads entering the roundabout

[@suziforester]

@@DeeSock Zzzzzzzzzzz Zzzzzzzz

[@DeeSock]

@@suziforester not sure why you would find criticism, about unsafe driving, incredibly boring when you presumably just listened to the whole video with criticism after criticism after criticism.

[@nemesismcc]

As for speed indication via the onboard speedometer, they are not entirely accurate either, I have a Peugeot 508 and I know it's 2 mph slower than indicated ( how do I know you may ask, I had it checked using a dyno graph) the GPS I have also shows my speedo to be reading 2 miles an hour slower also, mind you it means if I stick within the speed limits I can never be ticketed lol Also things like tyre wear and tyre pressures and heat can give false speed indications too, so the indicated speed is not always your "actual" speed. there are so many variables to cause fluctuations in the readings, this is why there is a 1% rule for "most speeds".

[@bustersbashers2280]

Do you ever send your footage off to the police.? If not you should, the ridiculous amount of bad driving you catch is insane… Great videos 👍👍👍keep up the great work 😂😅👍🙏🏻🇬🇧

[@leegriffin1584]

Rule 185 "When reaching the roundabout you should give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights" That's a should not a must, but still about as clear as you can make it.

[@PS-fl7et]

TSRGD 2016 Schedule 9 Part 6 Item 6 Vehicular traffic approaching a roundabout with a small central island or approaching a junction indicated by the marking shown in item 5 of this sign table should give way at, or immediately beyond, the line to traffic circulating on the carriageway of the roundabout

[@leegriffin1584]

@@PS-fl7et It sates "Diagram 1003.3 Vehicular traffic approaching a roundabout with a small central island or approaching a junction indicated by the marking shown in item 5 of this sign table should give way at, or immediately beyond, the line to traffic circulating on the carriageway of the roundabout" Tell me, from which direction does circulating traffic arrive at the point of a vehicle approaching the junction? Take your time.

[@PS-fl7et]

@@leegriffin1584 Any direction as larger vehicles might not be traversing the marking to the left which is why none is specified in the general direction legislation

[@leegriffin1584]

@@PS-fl7et How many times have you been approached from the left? Can you specify exactly where larger vehicles are specified as an exemption? The Highway Code is very clear, and (here's a shocker) in compliance with legislation. You have a stronger base for an argument on SHOULD not MUST. Before that, make sure you get what those mean in the event of a crash.

[@leegriffin1584]

Not quite, as it does not specify, as far as I can see, larger vehicles. Please point to the 'give way to the right, unless there's a large vehicle' bit in the legislation. Hint, there isn't. As I pointed out, try to attack the 'SHOULD' part of the highway code here. You are taking an obtuse reading of signage legislation, with added bits by you that don't exist to try and make a point that is simply the wrong point. In the event of any incident the 'should' would be taken into account by any Court or insurance company. Feel free to pull out randomly as you were there first, but expect to be on the wrong end of all if in most circumstances. It's all quite simple.

[@richardpayne]

On the wide centre island: It's make the pedestrian crossing point as narrow as possible to reduce their risk, and to reduce the speed of free flowing traffic (obviously not applicable in this case). It's only a problem when numpty motorists insist parking in such a way as to block it. What do you save by pushing up and blocking the crossing, and blocking cycles and motorcycles from passing? Nothing.

[@aprilia1000cc]

Tony, I think it’s an inadequate thing people not driving in the left hand lane, they have a feeling of inadequacy so stick to the middle to make themselves feel better 😂😂

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

It all comes down to lazy driving.

[@smilerbob]

The rules on roundabouts are quite simple, it is a give way line. So while the give way to traffic already on the roundabout is true if the roundabout is blocked, the official name for a mini roundabout is “Priority to the right” so you give priority to anyone approaching from the right It is also important to slow down which that driver didn’t do in the first clip

[@michellesimpson4364]

09:45 I thinks that’s the worst lane hogger I’ve seen on this channel in a while

[@jamestaylor6760]

17:52 I hope the lorry got flashed by those speed cameras. Also Tony, I've seen for myself the Highway Code on roundabouts and I back you up on it 😀

[@jeremypnet]

Yes, you did break the rules going through the amber light. Rule 175: "You MUST stop behind the white ‘Stop’ line across your side of the road unless the light is green. If the amber light appears you may go on only if you have already crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to stop might cause a collision." It's clear from your rear camera that there was no danger of causing a collision if you had stopped.

[@thelondondashcam]

We can go through amber lights if we think it's not safe to stop as it would have been a pretty harsh break I didn't stop and the danger behind me was obviously the cyclists they also didn't stop at a red nevermind an amber.

[@suziforester]

@@thelondondashcam Some folk just like to see their thoughts in type... like this one above x

[@Anthony-wx6ld]

Disagree on the amber light .. amber means stop unless you are over the stop line or you may cause an accident and you seem to be at a slow enough speed to stop safely and there seemed to be enough space behind you.

[@LZDEN]

give way to the right its that simple...so you are right my friend....i give way to the right...i always have done.

[@smilerbob]

The size of the island at 10:56 will be that big as the right turn ahead is protected by solid hatchings. If they were broken hatchings then chances are the island would be smaller 👍

[@nemesismcc]

The rule of the road is " give way to the right" this applies unless otherwise instructed to do anything different ( police traffic control etc) you are right, right is might

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

FROM the right. To and FROM have different connotations. Going to / coming from.

[@simonbroberg969]

I knew a few who love people pulling out in front of them on roundabouts.. At least one of them had a knackered old banger and was on the way to scrap it when they did that, so he got their insurance to pay most of what it cost for his much nicer "cage".. As a Biker, I will say it is rare you'll see me in one of those cage things you lot like to drive, but that is because I don't like traffic jams and would rather spending more time at home ... oh and stull annoyed they make us crash helmet in 20 MPH zones (which I also don't think should exist except next to School entrances)

[@samhenwood5746]

Thanks The London Dash Cam 🚕👍🤗

[@JayneBirch]

With regard to the two lane hogging examples, I think, for some bizarre reason, that these drivers genuinely believe that they should be in the middle lane and are doing nothing wrong. God knows why!

[@ianmason.]

I do wonder if the incorrect terminology of "fast lane" and "slow lane" has something to do with this. A though process something like "I don't want to go slow, and i don't want to go fast so I'll just use the middle lane". That's why I _do_ get pedantic about people using "fast lane" because if we call the overtaking lanes the right thing it _ought_ to be obvious to people that there's precisely _one_ reason for being in an overtaking lane under normal cruising conditions.

[@BarryJacobs-tg1ke]

@@ianmason. I'm sure some people think it's a cruising lane; not too fast, not too slow, just cruising.

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

@@ianmason. Terminology that is used frequently on dash cam comments These originated when motorways were first introduced and made some sense with much lower traffic density. But not in our modern motoring world. The middle lane rules OK. The blue light brigade always use Lane 1/2/3/4.

[@stephenmudiecastles.2938]

What people get wrong is that a give way line is a stop line, you have to stop. If there is no vehicle coming you may enter the junction and proceed though the junction. Most drivers approach a junction at the wrong speed expecting it to be clear and then simply going though because they can not stop. Approach a junction at the correct speed and you will have time to stop. A HGV is prohibited from using the out side lane of a carriageway, then undertaking and speeding all in one clip.

[@johncranna9427]

I see your point but a give way line with dashed markings either single or double is NOT stop line and you don't have to stop at them. A solid white line with sign or road marking saying STOP is a stop line and you MUST stop at it.

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

@@johncranna9427 But a little common sense when approaching / arriving at a give way line would not go amiss.

[@johncranna9427]

@@AndrewWhite-fu7bn Correct

[@suziforester]

Free The Boring Two

[@philipmillington5509]

Hi just being picky. The motorcycle was in the correct position over taking the van. But within a zig zag area is illegal!!!!!!

[@ryanmitcham5522]

Pretty sure it's only illegal if they are overtaking the lead vehicle, that has stopped to allow a pedestrian to cross. Both of those are required for it to be illegal. It's not illegal simply to overtake in the zig zag area.

[@michellesimpson4364]

I wonder how the people who question the priority to the right rule were taught how to do roundabouts as learners?

[@hahscake]

I shit you not, one of my neighbours had a driving instructor who said it was ok to go right on a roundabout via the left hand lane I'm surprised she even passed her test!

[@muttznutts7465]

as someone who as a learner was taught to pass my motorbike test, car test, hgvC and few years after hgvC+E I don't question the rule from the right rule, I just question what people think it means. When joining a roundabout traffic from the right is all ready covered by the rules that apply when joining a major road from a minor road and the "give way to traffic all ready on the roundabout" which would also cover slower moving traffic you might catch up with but is in front not to the right. As i see it the main point of "traffic from the right" rule is that on a roundabout with 2 or 3 lanes is traffic in the 2nd or 3rd lane will at some point need to move left to exit. Thats when you "give" them a "way" to exit. Its not about trying to guess if someone in another road that is not the roundabout (yet) will slow down or floor it across with horns blazing. Obviously just pulling out because"i was here first" is not a good idea. I'd rather let some random stranger think they can drive than explain the error of there ways to them while waiting for the tow truck. But yeah thats how i was taught to treat roundabouts, so i hope that answers your question.

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

Approach the roundabout in any lane. Get to the line. Close your eyes. Floor it. Hope for the best. Is what they may have been taught.

[@thefoodiechannelcookingfro1822]

The problem is is if you all arrive at the roundabout at the same time, everybody's on your right hand side, so who gives way. Hence why I was told you give way to traffic from the right that's on the roundabout. But drivers already on a roundabout have the right-of-way over those entering. When approaching a roundabout, you should: Give way: Yield to drivers already on the roundabout, unless road markings or signs say otherwise Wait: Don't enter until you have a clear path. It's not hard priorities given not taken. What would you place yourself in danger because of some numpty that uses self entitlement wax! Approach: Use the same approach as you would at a junction Check: Look for road markings that allow you to enter without giving way Signal: Use the MSPSL routine: Mirror, Signal, Position, Speed, Look Be aware: Watch out for other road users, who might not be signaling correctly or at all Look ahead: Before moving off, make sure the traffic in front has moved

[@peaoui165]

17:00 - The dashcam speed display is actually way more accurate than your car's speedo. Try comparing your car's speedo, dashcam display and a roadside speed detector sign. You'll find the dashcam and roadsign will agree but your speedo will underread by about 8%. This is because a car manufacturer does not want any liability if a customer claims their speedo was showing they were not speeding when they actually were. A dashcam gets its speed info from GPS. Once it has established a good GPS connection it is far more accurate. Although I would still rely on my cars speedo for any legal reference.

[@briankerrison8504]

At any junction..we give way to traffic coming from the right.. you are correct.. horses cyclists..we have to giveaway to them when following at any junction.. 😎😎

[@coffeeflavouredapples]

16:10 What's it doing out there in the third lane. Lane restrictions, HGVs are restricted to using lanes 1 and 2, and on a four-lane motorway lane 3. HGVs are not allowed to use the furthest right lane (sometimes known as the outside lane).

[@petergledhill7380]

Hi Tony. I have a theory about those road works. Perhaps it’s a way of somebody paying off somebody else through ghost works. I think you can search on the web for a S278 notice. Which is a road works notification giving the period of opening (digging) the road and type of works.

[@nemesismcc]

At road works or any obstruction on your lane, are you not obligated to hold back until a clear way through is available ? not block off oncoming traffic, as seen in this last clip ?

[@G0LGS]

Whilst I see your point it (and agree on the priority) is not always as simple as you seem to try to make out, if it was a bigger round-about it is much more obvious who should have priority, but these small ones are a different matter.

[@thelondondashcam]

Every roundabout scenario is obviously different but in these cases it's pretty straightforward I think.

[@Gripper-ie2qg]

The fact people think your wrong just shows how many rubbish drivers are on the roads, so many drivers are oblivious of the rules and consider their driving to a good standard - hence they look puzzled at you when you beep - though usually I just show them a five knuckle shuffle

[@peterjones6497]

I wonder if this give way to traffic already on the roundabout is from before the advent of mini roundabouts? My take is that if waiting to enter a large (conventional) roundabout the traffic to the right is already on the roundabout and the give way to the right still applies because of that. I seem to recall, yes I am ancient, that was the case, years ago, before mini roundabouts were thought of and this is what some are mistakenly thinking of?

[@ablestringer9063]

I'm with you all the way just ignore the uneducated trolls or whatever they are. Those 8 wheel tipper trucks are a menace wherever you see them. There's a lot down in my part of London in Charlton and they charge round like sports cars I don't know why its particular to them but in my opinion they're the worst drivers of all.

[@shm5547]

12:02 cycling on the pavement carefully is effectively decriminalised. Just like you are unlikely to be fined for doing 20.1mph in a 20mph limit, even though it’s technically illegal.

[@chasbell4510]

In Eastbourne there is no cycling along the promenade with a £500 fine, I have counted up to £10,000 with the number of people cycling along it.

[@petercoffin-mu9sz]

With the roundabout argument, the big give away is that you should be ready to stop. not drive straight through. Its the good old driving standard's question again. out the window and far away. thx anyway Tony.

[@thelondondashcam]

And that applies to every entrance to the roundabout so there should never be scenarios which I've shown you in the first two clips ever if everyone did that because as I keep saying it's priority to traffic approaching from the right.

[@peterward6197]

I would say your dash cam/sat nav speed is more accurate than your car speedo. I was told by a garage that the manufacturer allows up to 15% inaccuracy.

[@ianmason.]

Speedometers may over-read by up to 10% plus 6.25 mph. They must not under-read at all.(The Motor Vehicle (Approvals) Regulations 1996) So travelling at a true 10 mph your speedometer can read as high as 17.25 mph and be legal, at a true 70 mph it can read 83.25 mph. Most modern ones are considerably more accurate but that is the standard they must meet. GPS can provide misleading figures and can only really be trusted to be accurate when travelling at a constant speed (after allowing a few seconds settling time) and in the absence of clutter such as buildings, mountains, or trees that can cause problems with correctly receiving the satellite signals. Strictly you also need to monitor the GPS receiver's 'dilution of precision' parameters to ensure that you are currently receiving an accurate signal. I have yet to see an automotive GPS that displays any of HDOP, PDOP, VDOP, or TDOP or even provides a simple warning lamp that indicate that the currently received signal does not meet acceptable limits of accuracy.

[@JamieSaunders-yn9nu]

Did you have peas and mashed potatoes with it? Also a little dab of HP sauce. I was doing ok till you mentioned you rode a bike. The thought of you in lycra has done my head in. I'm having to double my chill pill dosage for today. Thanks as always and stay safe.

[@thelondondashcam]

😂😂 when I rode my bike they haven't even invented lycra so you can get that image out of your head 😂

[@JamieSaunders-yn9nu]

@@thelondondashcam Thanks I'll keep my pills in the bottle. Most probably safer riding a bike then.

[@stephenrobbins9901]

Not condoning motorcycles in bicycle lanes,just an observation, when tax disc's were a thing on vehicle's the taxation class on the tax disc said bicycle,not motorcycle. Seriously 😊

[@garfield2279]

Yes I remember that, always found it a bit strange

[@sillybait1329]

The lorry driver recognises himself as a trainee audi cyclist 🤐

[@michaelperry4308]

1:48, dead right, if you are on an island like that one you basically stop if you see any vehicle to your right, on a larger island where there is time to enter the island and get out of the way before the vehicle on the right gets to your entry there is a case for keeping the traffic flowing, but not if the VTR is likely to be forced to slow. 'First one there' is not a rule and will get you nicked, if ever a copper ever leaves the safety of the station gets on the road and thinks it will not 'hurt your feelings' to ticket you.

[@tanderson278]

Search KZbin "Conquer Driving Roundabouts Driving Lesson" at 00:52 "Anyone approaching a roundabout has to give way to cars [road users] already ON the roundabout." NOT: APPROACHING THE ROUNDABOUT. Too many drivers assume they have priority as you have shown in TLD Vol 345 At 00:55, and this situation most often occurs at mini roundabouts, perhaps because these drivers mis-interpret "priority to traffic approaching from the right" as PRIORITY TO TRAFFIC APPROACHING THE ROUNDABOUT FROM THE RIGHT!!!!!!!

[@thelondondashcam]

But where does it say you have to give priority to traffic already on the roundabout in the highway code ? It doesn't !!!! Because that will be dangerous because it would create a race to get to the roundabout first, what it does say Is *watch out* for traffic already on the roundabout not they have priority.

[@DeeSock]

@@thelondondashcam but it is also a race to the roundabout with your "give way solely to the right" idea! Because the faster you dangerously approach the roundabout the more likely people entering the roundabout on your left would have to wait for you! Highway Code doesn't say the car in front of you when driving down a straight road has priority over you either!!!! Just because roundabout has a continuous bend doesn't change that And why do you think it says watch out for them ? So you can almost ram them? No, that is not why it says to watch out for them. It is because of the fundamental rule of driving safely which is not to ram the car in front of you. Rule 126 "Leave enough space between you and the vehicle in front".

[@tanderson278]

@@thelondondashcam It is implied because the traffic is in front of you. In Legal Tort, you have a duty of care to these road users.

[@PS-fl7et]

TSRGD 2016 Schedule 9 Part 6 Item 6 Vehicular traffic approaching a roundabout with a small central island or approaching a junction indicated by the marking shown in item 5 of this sign table should give way at, or immediately beyond, the line to traffic circulating on the carriageway of the roundabout

[@nikkirazelli3250]

technically it's not "give way to the right" it's "give way to vehicles already on the roundabout", so I can see the issues

[@xo2quilt]

11:33 in the USA we call those "traffic calming" devices. Horrible, but they do generally cause all traffic to slow down. On the bike on the roundabout, the rule is horrible if bikes can turn right from a straight-only lane...definitely asking to be hit, especially since it appears that both lanes can go straight! Someone really screwed the pooch on that law.

[@johncranna9427]

That's how I view it as a traffic calming to slow traffic down.

[@YT_Rezy]

Even if ur first at a roundabout or mini u still have to slow down or stop and give way thats jf there is anyone there, that's how it works

[@thelondondashcam]

Again as I keep saying show me where it says all of this in the highway code.

[@YT_Rezy]

@@thelondondashcam ikr all of these who say your wrong must be bad drivers even though you are right and they are wrong

[@johncranna9427]

@@thelondondashcam preamble to rule 103 "The rules in The Highway Code do not give you the right of way in any circumstance, but they advise you when you should give way to others. Always give way if it can help to avoid an incident."

[@richardeggett392]

use a sat nav even though you don't need one, you will get exact speed you are going.

[@thelondondashcam]

That's correct, I always have Waze on and that is always correct with displayed speed signs where my Speedo is as much as 5mph out.

[@InBodWeTrust]

17:00 the speedo on your car is unlikely to be accurate; in fact it *could* be up to 10% out (overreading, so a displayed 50 may be an actual 45). GPS speed (e.g. on Google Maps or Waze) on a flat road will be quite accurate, if you want to get some form of calibration. That said the lorry would still have been speeding, given the rate at which they passed you.

[@kramshiron]

By law car Speedos have to be slightly fast…roughly 2 to 4 mph to allow for tyre wear from new. So at roughly 40 mph on your car dash you are doing probably around 38 genuine.

[@thelondondashcam]

That makes sense with my tests I've done on my Speedo but for my car i think it's a little bit higher going by the signs on the road that flash with my speed on them, Waze is always correct with them my car can be as much as 5 mph out.

[@bjkemp4295]

rule 185 you must give priority to vehicled approaching from the right

[@johncranna9427]

It's 'should', not 'must'. But in either case, if the other driver does not give you priority the you don't go ploughing towards it as LDC did. And you don't use your horn aggresivley. So, the other car broke one HC rule, and LDC broke two!!

[@thelondondashcam]

The car pulled out in front of me, I used the horn to let him know I was there because he obviously didn't see me, no rules broken by me

[@johncranna9427]

@thelondondashcam how many times must you be reminded? You use your horn BEFORE the incident arises, not during or after. That's exactly why the road rage occurred in the second clip with the flat bed truck. You constantly use your horn in direct contravention of rule 112. It's great that you conceded your mistake with the cyclist at the roundabout, but boy - it's really time that you came clean on the many other instances of HC rules that you flout.

[@Roller_Ghoster]

Hi Tony. I thought you said no more food references lol.

[@suziforester]

Alot of cut and pasters here with the rules.....great stuff if you're having trouble sleeping😂😂😂😂😂

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

All the rules posted are correct, but not necessarily in the right order.

[@suziforester]

You're still boring

[@suziforester]

@@AndrewWhite-fu7bn Boring

[@MYCROFTonX]

You are correct.

[@angeladormer6659]

I'm with you Tony. I think to relegate the motorist to the least important vehicle on the road is disgraceful. So obviously cyclists are now allowed on motorways even if only to stop on the hard shoulder to take selfies. What would they do if we all refused to pay our Road Fund Licence? You will be pleased that some motorists in some counties, do their civic duty and send in their dash cam footages of miscreants and on their footage the consequences for their bad driving. I watched that diddycoy footage in total and it was frightening. It had to have been them because no legal vehicle transport could drive for years without tax, insurance or MOT. He will never worry about scraping any vehicle or commit physical violence, as like cyclists you can't trace them and you, the innocent party will get penalised. This country has gone to the dogs. No police, no protection. My friend had her front door kicked in ( 1 of 4 in her street), and the police have no interest in catching the little scrotes, captured on ringcam, responsible. They gave a number, that's it. So, are we safe on the roads with no police presence to stop these villains? BIG FAT NO.

[@stephencope7178]

At 0.45 you were beyond the dotted line anyway, so therefore had priority to that typical 4x4 arrogant so and so!

[@fredlenz4743]

The highway code has been amended, amendments amended, but it should have been completely rewritten to cater for the volume of traffic and the various new modes of transport available today. And the job of doing so should not be left to bureaucrats and politicians, but by professional transport organisations. Fat chance of that, though! I've had my license since 1972, driven all over the world and one thing is apparently obvious, all major traffic departments concentrate on one money making offence, speeding. Easy revenue with little effort, but stopping cyclists jumping red lights or unlicensed or no number plates on scooters or even plain old jay-walking goes mostly unpunished. Road safety requires policing, and that in turn requires more police officers. Is society willing to pay for this, I very much doubt it!

[@DavidNewmanDr]

Not all traffic departments. In the Netherlands they design roads to separate cars, cycles and pedestrians, so in the end they all travel quicker and safer. Take a look at the videos from @NotJustBikes. They also narrow roads or put trees along them to make drivers naturally go slower in dangerous places, rather that just putting up a speed limit sign. (And there is no offence of jay walking outside the USA.)

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

Err, what new modes of road transport? There haven't been any new modes of transport. We've got pedestrians, horseriders, cycles and motor vehicles. As for who should write the Highway Code, that's easy I should be the Department for Transport as they'll be neutral in the matter and won't unduly disadvantage any individual group. After all there is nopr9fessional group for pedestrians.

[@ianmason.]

@@DavidNewmanDr Jaywalking as an offence exists in _many_ places other than the USA. To name just some: South Korea, China, Singapore, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Argentina, and so on.

[@ianiles6430]

Lane-hogging are up there with the sort of people who bag their dog's mess and then hang the bag on a fence or throw it into the hedgerow. Calling them quarterwits is being too generous.

[@suziforester]

Shithouses sums them up

[@suziforester]

@@ianiles6430 rather like some of the regular boring fools on here. We all know them x Andrew White Dee Sock John Cranna Science Experiment

[@17Blower]

Not sure if running red lights is a cyclist thing or just a London/City cyclist thing. I live in Devon and very rarely see it happen, Nearly all cyclists stop when needed here (from my experience)

[@shm5547]

I treat roundabouts as they’re not even there??? How does that make any sense!

[@thelondondashcam]

Try and listen to what I was saying about clearing them, if I can't turn right without effecting traffic coming from my right then I wait the same applies to roundabouts. Hope that helps you understand.

[@DeeSock]

@@thelondondashcam a T-junction doesn't have a give way line for traffic coming from the right though. Big difference

[@shm5547]

@@DeeSock exactly. A key point lost on many.

[@angusmacleod6073]

The give way to people on a roundabout applies to people who are already there and held up by traffic or other obstructions. It does not make roundabouts first come first served. In the cases shown at the start of the video, both the other cars should not have entered as they would not clear the roundabout before the traffic from the right entered. Both motorists have caused others to brake for them, and if this was a driving test, that is a dangerous fault (1st example) and a serious for the second. Either way, this is not an acceptable level of driving.

[@radio-g4-rm3dz]

Highway Code Rule 185: give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights. All seems clear enough to me.

[@MrFrog_]

On Ni Direct 'The rules for using roundabouts Give way The most important rule - when entering a roundabout, give way to traffic on the roundabout, unless road markings or signs say otherwise. If the way is clear keep moving. Stopping at a clear roundabout slows traffic and can cause frustrating delays'

[@johncranna9427]

@@MrFrog_ Northern Ireland have their own Highway Code based on the UK one. But in the UK Highway Code LDC falls foul of the preamble to rules 103-158 "The rules in The Highway Code do not give you the right of way in any circumstance, but they advise you when you should give way to others. Always give way if it can help to avoid an incident."

[@thelondondashcam]

Was there an accident ? 🫣🤔

[@johncranna9427]

@thelondondashcam you were going the right way to create a collision - ps 'accident' intimates that there is no blame, most collisions are a result of driver error. Hence the police now refer to RTC rather than RTA.

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

@@thelondondashcam That nothing happened does not negate the original movement.

[@maxcorey8144]

Here in Alaska you ride a bicycle on the road NOT the sidewalk (pavement) but I have had drivers angry yelling at me to get off the road thinking I am supposed to ride on the sidewalk.

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

I rode a bike in Anchorage many years ago, but had no such trouble. On our way to Portage Glacier but didn't realise it was so far. Gave up rented a car.

[@stevekenilworth]

when at cruising speed the gps is very correct, many speed signs what flash your speed agree with the viofo gps. it only a bit off when you are gaining / reducing speed but once up to cruising it catches up and it pretty spot on and gets better on faster roads you you mostly a constant speed not stop and go what they hate or a very built up area lots tall buildings that can also have an effect but on faster wide open road cruising at set speed that is more correct than the car as my car i got to be doing 74-75mph to be doing 70mph in a 30 at 30 it is 27 mph cars do tend to over read but trucks on the other hand they spot on reason many try push you through lower limits like 50 zones on motorways. that is what the speed signs tell me my car over reads the speed, 20 zones need to be at around 23-24 to be doing 20, handy for the 20's in wales as if i do 20 it really on 17mph. 17:08. its when you always changing speed a lot they not so great but cruising at set speed give a closer true speed than what you car tells you, but on driving test even if you know your car over reads you still have to stick to what the car says. only a few cars ive heard the speed shown in the car is correct and that on a few sports cars. a quick search i got this answer International law has long required modern cars to overstate true speed. The applicable standard for many vehicles sold in NZ is a European A speedo must never show less than the actual speed, and must never show more than 10% of actual speed + 6.25mph. so what the car shows you can be way off and gps even if not great changing speeds so building speed at fast rate or slowing it may be off them but cruising it can be far better and more of a true speed of what you are really doing . my car im going of what speed signs flash at me and what my gps says and that multitable ones so im pretty sure my car over reads by a bit 16:48

[@G0LGS]

my car speedo reads a little higher then my DashCam (which seems to agree with average speed cameras) or my Satnav app.

[@alunrundle162]

Personally, if I were the cyclist? I'd be on the pavement at that roundabout and minimising the time I spent on the road with circling death machines. But that's common sense. Something rarer to see at roundabouts than right hand side priority. To clarify, I don't mean they should be on the pavements wherever but, on busy roundabouts like that, they should be allowed the option.

[@richardpayne]

On cyclists using the foot path: So long as they're travelling at pedestrian like speeds and are taking care of the pedestrians then I don't see it as a huge issue. As a motorist, I'd rather those slow and careful cyclists weren't in the road anyway!

[@psychoal1967]

3:47 I agree that the cyclist should be in the lane on the right, I'm a cyclist myself. It maybe that he couldn't get into the lane on the right due to cars not giving him room.

[@Yorci62]

At 3:56 I agree with your initial understanding, I would say the cyclist is in the wrong and should be in the centre of HIS lane for TURNING RIGHT (presuming he is a he) i.e. the right hand lane. What was the difference in risk from the middle lane to the right lane? To me the right hand lane was not less safe (see below) if the turning right. If the Merc' hit him, I would say the cyclist would be at fault, for not indicating his intent NOT to leave the roundabout - see below. I know cyclists don’t like using their arms! which really hacks me off especially when my crystal ball is in the workshop. I am presuming that some of the comments were related to Highway Code Rule 79 - Roundabouts which reads. If you are turning right, you can ride in the left or right-hand lanes and move left when approaching your exit. Position yourself in the centre of your lane if it is safe to do so (see Rule 72) and signal right to indicate that you are not leaving the roundabout. Alternatively, you may feel safer walking your cycle round on the pavement or verge. Sorry for all the waffle.

[@johncranna9427]

@Yorci62 but you ignore the part of rule 186 for motorists saying, "You should give priority to cyclists using the roundabout. They will be travelling more slowly than motorised traffic. Give them plenty of room and do not attempt to overtake them within their lane. Allow them to move across your path as they travel around the roundabout."

[@Yorci62]

@@johncranna9427 I guess we just differ on our understanding of the Highway Code. Rule 186 does say when taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise - signal right and approach in the right-hand lane - keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout - signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want. The paragraph on giving priority to cyclists makes no mention that cyclists should not be in the correct lane and that cyclists should not indicate to make there intentions known when leaving the roundabout. As I said we shall just have to disagree. I do think that Tony's initial assessment is correct. The paragraph does says that you should give priority to cyclists on the roundabout. They will be traveling more slowly than motorised traffic. Give them plenty of room and do not attempt to overtake them within their lane. Allow them to move across your path as they travel around the roundabout. The cyclist also failed at Rule 59 Clothing - Light-coloured or fluorescent clothing can help other road users to see you.

[@jaffabeast]

The highway code basically says we have to work together and help each other out. Trouble is it’s all give and no take for rule abiders with today’s attitudes on the roads. Left/right turn arrows on the lanes should be abided to but straight on arrows do mean any lane (so long as you indicate where you are going and don’t force in), you see exceptions where it says “ahead only”. All the signage on lanes is guidance for best flow and not actual orders. Slow vehicles should stay in the left lane whilst indicating clearly what their intentions are, even for going 360 round a roundabout. The problem with all this is the piss takers shooting up any gap available forcing people out the way.

[@heatherhoward2513]

Take no notice mate!😊😊

[@robinwbarrett]

Also Tony the cyclist indicated that he was turning right upon entering the roundabout which is almost unheard of

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

You're not supposed to overtake the vehicle closet to any pedestrian crossings. Rules 165,167 and 191 apply.

[@ForkCandle123]

That small van that identifies as a bicycle at 13:40, is it a trans van - as opposed to a transit van, I mean?

[@malgf4145]

11.35 - The reason for the large island is to stop vehicles/motorbikes/cycles from overtaking on a zebra crossing. Unfortunately you were condoning overtaking there.

[@thelondondashcam]

No I wasn't, but if the island was a normal size they wouldn't need to do that, but some still would no matter how big or small it was.

[@michellesimpson4364]

Great videos ❤