Bad UK Driving Vol 355

[@SteveStrummerUK]

Re FOG - the biggest problem with people not having their dipped headlights on when it's foggy is that many cars these days are fitted with automatic lights. They work fine when it's dark, but more often than not, they don't react in fog as it's too bright. They assume their headlights are 'automatic' for *all* situations, but they're often too dense to realise it's light levels that cause them to change.

[@sunnybnk]

It is not just the "auto" headlight setting that some are too dense to understand. Some I wouldn't put in charge of a wheelbarrow.

[@jjharson7344]

@@sunnybnk ha ha this is quite funny, and I agree but the auto headlights are designed to come on in the fog too, mine do, but the point you make is more important, you should be able to correctly determine on when they are on and when you need to override the auto features of any new car, such as cruise control, no-one would blindly just leave it on when coming off at a junction, or you would switch it off when approaching slow moving traffic. a lot of drivers are brain dead sheep when it comes to making these decisions. I think it's fair to say the thoughtful drivers are becoming a rare breed on the roads.

[@susanwassall361]

I'm sure a lot of drivers think the DRL's are for both front & rear.

[@SteveStrummerUK]

@@jjharson7344 - spot on 👍

[@jessgibson4790]

You touched on one of my pet hates, the use of lights in bad weather. It is illegal not to use your lights if visibility is reduced by weather conditions. Like you, I don't understand it. The other lights one I don't get is the daylight lights where they don't realise the daylight lights don't give you rear lights on most cars. What happens here is they use them at night but can't be seen from the rear! Another thing people ignore is the max speed limit for towing a trailer which means you should only do 60 on a motorway!

[@smilerbob]

@@jessgibson4790 And 50mph when towing on a single carriageway 👍

[@clynton6894]

Thanks for that. Gets quite frustrating seeing all that inconsiderate behaviour

[@bjthedjdutchdude1992]

I can relate with the lorry driver at the last clip. People seem to risk it all just to merge up front on a busy exit ramp. I don't understand why people won't take the next exit.

[@doghous3]

Entitlement?! same as the people that will park in a live carriageway, blocking an entire lane of traffic...

[@xo2quilt]

I missed my exit in a town I'm not familiar with and wasn't on my GPS, I took the next exit and followed my GPS. Added an extra 30 minutes to my travel, but I didn't cause a problem for anyone else. I get in the lane I need (when I know where I'm going) well ahead of time and save myself the stress of trying to squeeze in. Might add a few minutes to my journey but it is adding years to my life!

[@andreashaynes3346]

My God. What a bunch of NUMPTIES Tony. Thought you kept your cool. Well done. Think I’d have burst a blood vessel!!! 😂😉

[@iallso1]

I always wondered about Volvo always having side lights on, and remember Jasper Carrott making a joke about it. Then a Swedish report came out, probably in the 80s saying that having lights on all day did more to reduce accidents than enforcing speed limits achieved. Since I bought a vehicle in 2006 that had headlights that could be set to turn off automatically, I have always driven with my headlights on 24/7, not on auto or drl, just headlights on.

[@johncranna9427]

Having your headlights on, as opposed to sidelights on, can be dangerous as they can obscure your indicators in the day time.

[@iallso1]

@johncranna9427 most drivers in NZ don't actually use indicates, some use confirmators after they have made their manoeuvre, but most skip the mirror and signal and just use manoeuvre.

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

There was an experiment in a Eastern European country, of using headlights 24/7. The accident rate halved and it was made law. Later to morph into DRL.

[@ianmason.]

The red sports car (186 YUN) is a Riley 12-4 Special. I'm sure someone's beaten me to it.

[@stevecatlow8339]

Lane hogging is definitely worse in the South. M25 with 4 lanes and no one in the driving lane and the first overtaking lane every time.

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

Lane Hogging is everywhere on the UK highways and byways.

[@tomf4889]

I’m not a driver, but love watching these. I would have thought that if you aren’t going faster than the posted limit then you aren’t ‘undertaking’, it’s him slowing down.

[@karenwalker575]

Love your logic😊

[@WhiteDieselShed]

My answer will always be my lane was travelling faster than his lane which is legal. Just don't jump lanes soon after the pass.

[@grahamnutt8958]

🎶 Bing Bong......... Yeh; that would drive me bonkers 😂. The #clang sound effect had me in stitches 🤣🤣🤣 Yeh; I'm late to the Party but it was worth the wait. Good one, Tony.

[@angeladormer6659]

Tony you always make me smile. I tend to be verbal when I'm driving and what you say, maybe a bit more colourful, but is what I'd shout too 😂😂😂😂

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

My dad was a bit like that. Until he lost his concentration.

[@Sackbladder]

Love these videos Tony.. I'm at Sutton Holiday Inn a lot, and I love seeing The Mad Mile and That roundabout.. I've had a few near misses there with pricks who don't indicate, or indicate wronsgky. As a coach driver, my passengers tell me there are pricks in the States, Australia and China too.

[@dixxie420]

Remember the good old days, 4 cylinders, petrol, air and a spark, if it went wrong it was an easy fix 🤷🤷

[@silverstreetmoto1458]

And a fag paper to set the points.

[@jcev39]

9:30 - that looks like a Riley special (probably based on a Riley 9 from the late '20s early '30s)

[@kevinbrewis6014]

used to get a view of the Grandstand on previous videos, must have been one hell of a pea-souper that day, like one day walking to Blaydon where I worked, fog on the Tyne was a lovely sight

[@ap9970]

Re the reversing BMW at T5, I have seen cars reverse from the drop off zone to the car park slip.

[@ianemery2925]

Have you ever noticed that the VAST majority of cars driving with no light/side lights in thick fog, are the same fucking COLOUR as the fog?? They are nearly all some shade of white, silver, or grey.

[@andrewgilbertson5356]

Thank you

[@45H4W]

On mine the lights are auto and will come on front and rear going through tunnels, heavy rain and at night, but daytime fog is not recognised by my sensors and I have to manually put them on, which I suspect a lot that drive auto lights are not aware of and believe they are doing nothing wrong.

[@doghous3]

is there no indication in the vehicle itself when lights are on/off...?

[@BoschExxcel]

Came here to say this. My BMW doesn’t pick up daytime fog and I’ve had to turn the lights on manually. I guess most people haven’t turned their lights off auto since buying their car and don’t even notice!

[@ianmason.]

@@doghous3 Yes of course there is an indicator light that shows whether your lights are on or not, but checking that would require a conscious decision on behalf of the driver to do so and as we see so often 'conscious' is not a word that can be applied to a lot of drivers.

[@45H4W]

@@doghous3 Yes I have an image of my vehicle on the dash that shows front/rear and fogs on or off. I've also seen many that have day time running lights that are front only and keep it that way in the fog. IMO A high percentage probably don't bother because they are either thick, like the fog, or just cannot be bothered.

[@alanclarke4646]

​@@BoschExxcel You managed to find a light switch on a BMW?! 😂😂

[@robertblair-uk4ph]

That junction from the A3 to the M25 caught me out the first couple of times I used it as I use it so infrequently. The first time, I came off where you always used to to find myself in the wrong lane completely of my own doing. The next time, was some time after and I had my sat nav on as I was going somewhere I'd not been. The nav still tells you to take the exit where the slip road begins. It makes no mention of the fact that the right turn lane now has its own slip road slightly further up, so I can easily understand how people who take that exit very rarely or are unfamiliar with the area, relying on a sat nav, get it wrong. They need to signpost it better. I don't doubt that many people doing it are just queue jumping twatbags, but a good number of them will just be making an honest and easily made mistake

[@craftsmanwoodturner]

Yes, lane hogging is worse in the south. In the north, people go to the opposite extreme and cut right into your braking distance after passing you.

[@johnfh]

The petrolhead moment looks like a Riley, but I may be wrong.

[@karenwalker575]

Looks like a red sporty type car to me😁

[@jjharson7344]

agreed it is a Riley Roadster from 1936 - grill and twin small windscreen is the clues, John wins.

[@laurencebushby713]

i expect they think there automatic headlights will come on if needed!

[@LOJ2024-r3r]

12:28 I hate it when people do that 😂

[@gerhard6105]

Nice video. 1. I would overtake how it should be done. This because it should be done that way and i do not want a fine because of a lane hogger. When you want to drive the same speed as the lanehogger, i would stay where you drive at this minute to eventually let the lanehogger some space in case he does want to go to the left(lane).

[@nigelnicholson7439]

And where does the battery get the electricity from in the first place?

[@gerhard6105]

@@nigelnicholson7439 and now in normal English please. I am Dutch 🇳🇱. What do you want to know?

[@tjampman]

It is not illegal to pass on the left as he did in the clip at 3:45. In the UK it is allowed to pass on the left as long as you are not changing lanes to do so. In Holland you are also allowed to pass on the right, in case there is a traffic queue - and I would argue to the end of time, that if someone is lane hogging (especially when going slower than the speed limit), they are creating a queue!

[@gerhard6105]

@@tjampman aha, ok, good to know about the overtaking on the right in England. Well, is somebody is lane hogging in the Netherlands, the fine is very high, then we will overtake him the way we should. Also because the fine for overtaking on the wrong side is high: Only €300,- (2024). Unnecessary driving on the left (lane hogging) €270,- . So, we don't risk it.

[@happy_burger]

Those lightbulbs only have so much life in them, can't waste it on foggy days

[@raynordefoubert9753]

@2:43 Tony you were going to say it won't drain your battery...unless it's an EV of course 😄😄😄

[@ianmason.]

Even on my piddling little PHEV's 7kW battery it'd take a few days to drain the battery just from the headlights.

[@drivingwithlee6550]

The part where people had there lights off in the fog seizes to amaze me how they got there license

[@blxtothis]

3’30” Lane Hoggers - one of the cardinal sins along with tailgaters and under-takers (no, not undertakers!), I’ve come up behind a few on the M25, funnily all on the stretch after the A3 Wisley Junction 10, all hogging the outside lane at 55 mph, no amount of waiting patiently or even a quick toot or flash of the lights has ver worked. On each of these, no vehicle in sight to the front in that lane, the other lanes were empty and traffic very light so an undertake was the only solution, my wife observed that the drivers all seemed in a trance, head rigid, white knuckle gripping of the wheel, no seeming movement of the eyes or head, almost as if they were robots. No German cars these, all Japanese and Korean, perhaps they needed an Audi up their tailpipes! 09’17” - Looks very much like a Riley Brooklands a pre-1930s sports model.

[@bloodaxe-sjt7671]

Private hire drivers are by far the worst drivers on the road, so I find it hilarious that one is critiquing other drivers on the road 😂

[@thelondondashcam]

😂 I'll be buying an Audi next 😜

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

@@thelondondashcam A wolf in sheeps clothing.

[@lafluerpeter9]

Got to go Stevenage this weekend, and Wembley next, Would usually go down the A3 from Guildford, but I think I'll go down the A29 and join at Leatherhead instead, and the same on the return journeys.

[@huwlewis9059]

My sympathies with having to go to Stevenage!

[@lafluerpeter9]

@huwlewis9059 😂😂😂 from someone who spent 30yrs in Croydon, Stevenage should be fine.

[@djglowuk]

I always pass vehicles on the left.its safety, then moving across 3 lanes too overtake then 3 lanes back

[@ytr8989]

I don’t know how you manage to drive through all that every day. 😂

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

All the clips of poor decision making running together seem like it is hell out there. But it's not that bad. I was driving around Nottingham yesterday, a few 'incorrect motoring moves' around me, but nothing to write home about.

[@tomattwell4867]

nice video

[@neilsouthern321]

Some people are just plain stupid

[@B41DY]

As to the lane hogging "down south " you should try the m4 over the border in Wales. By the way travelled the m25 twice over the last 2 days (m4 to Watford) Jeez I always get anxious not knowing who's going where when and how thankfully no big issues 🤣Otherwise another hilarious episode

[@gazzertrn]

Cyclist with no lights ? Thats a surprise .

[@tigertony2716]

If I am on the inside lane and approach a middle lane hogger, I just continue at the same speed in my lane and pass them - which is perfectly legal.- I have come to the conclusion that many hoggers do it so that they don't have to deal with cars entering the motorway / A road.

[@ditch3827]

Not legal at all. According to the CPS overtaking on the inside is a section 3ZA(2) offence

[@ianmason.]

@@ditch3827 Section 3ZA creates no offences. If you're going to try and quote the law get it right.

[@ditch3827]

@@ianmason. Tell that to the CPS - I quote from their website. I would rather trust those that actually prosecute than you.

[@suziforester]

​@@ianmason. Spot on Ian.....

[@suziforester]

The usual 'know nowt gobshites' are relentless again😂

[@Cars_with_Leilah]

Nice vid bro

[@PeteSQ]

10:50 The Land Rpver parking at Heathrow. Clearly a driver who has no pride in their car. The scaping of the wheels on the kerb as he pulled in made me shudder, unless of course they are already so wrecked it can't make them worse.

[@ashleynaylor9531]

Nothing wrong with passing on the inside as long as all you're doing is maintaining a steady speed and making good progress without causing anyone to alter their speed or take evasive action.

[@michaelspanish9738]

Your're rant at the bloke on the crossing cracked me up 😂😂

[@ap9970]

@@michaelspanish9738 they normally looking for there Uber. Had a woman standing like that outside St Mary's Paddington once, with suitcase, looking from phone to road while standing on edge of Zebra Crossing, I stopped I looked at her she took a step back, I was looking for a parking spot so went around the block again, second I stop I stare at her she takes a step back, third time around I stop, I stare, she moves up the road a little.

[@kenmerry2729]

If the other lanes are moving slower than your lane you can go up the inside??

[@tjampman]

You are allowed to maintain your lane and follow the traffic, and pass some one on the left. But you are not allowed to change lanes in order to pass on the left. But be careful if you do!

[@robertpayne4033]

There are rather too many drivers who seem to think that they have eyes like a cat's, and do not need lights on until it is really, *really* dark....

[@Debbiestrainsandtoys]

At least his company has gone electric most companies still think they should pollute than teach them how use the Bluetooth in their vehicles

[@xusiaxod6255]

10:45 - BMW driver.

[@MikeWilliams-yp9kl]

❤

[@stevieb4372]

Tony, a little understanding here, relating to the bus going through the lights. The highway code states to stop on amber "If it is safe to do so. Beyond those lights was a bus stop and the bus was stopping, no doubt people were getting off. If the driver has people standing waiting to get off, he should use his discretion about stopping at the lights.

[@kevinrayner5812]

The bus crossed on red though.

[@kevinrayner5812]

The lorry driver that cut in was a burke in a merc. Bloody German lorry drivers not just German car drivers.

[@kevinrayner5812]

Petrol head moment given is was read I guess a Ferrari.

[@BoschExxcel]

That BMW 100% deserved the horn from the HGV. It astounds me how stupid some people are, I bet the BMW driver wouldn’t like his car compacted by a 44 tonner! That A3/M25 junction is so dangerous at the moment. I do exactly the same as you and stay as far away from the inside lane as possible due to the sheer stupidity of other people. I have been known to also use my horn for people blocking the inside lane to try and queue jump…

[@ryanmitcham5522]

1:11 "Nothing between the ears" he says as he overtakes a cyclist just before a traffic island before slowing down and turning right. If you were about to turn right anyway, why did you overtake? It's almost like there wasn't much going on between your ears. Not a good advert for drivers.

[@ianmason.]

Did he cause the cyclist to slow or alter course? No. Was he at any point too close to the cyclist? No. Was he in fact fully into the side road before the cyclist caught up to him? Yes. So fine. There's nothing to complaint about here. All done safely and with no discourtesy. The idea is to not impede or endanger cyclists (or indeed any other road user), not to kowtow to them at every opportunity.

[@RonSeymour1]

Undertaking on the left wasn't a good idea. You were coming up to a slip road, off the motorway. He was just as likely to pull off suddenly, with or without indicating.

[@REZMETAL]

Ok, I don't have car so I don't know how they work, but... around the 3 minute mark you just said having your lights on doesn't drain the car battery - how is that possible? Doesn't all the power for car electrics get power from the battery? 🤔

[@Born2007]

Alternator charges the battery as the engine is used. This is why leaving your lights on overnight can drain the battery but won’t when you’re driving. Edit: this is for ICE and not all this hybrid electric fuckery.

[@mikehipperson]

EVs have a separate circuit with its own battery for lighting, radio and general electrical requirements . That battery is recharged from the main traction battery, the one that is charged overnight or on a journey at dedicated chargers.

[@michellesimpson4364]

Great videos ❤

[@Jiayne1335]

The mind boggles , Whats going through that idiots mind, With standing so close to the zebra crossing. No words to genuinely grasp whats going through his mind when cars are stopping assuming hes going to cross. Im surprised no one got out and gave him a good talking to. Next time Tony you should wind your windows down and tell any clowns standing like that to move away unless they intend to cross. To be honest though he did look like the light was on but no one was home.

[@johncranna9427]

Oh come on. You're just as vad as Tony!! Did he really look like he was crossing. OK- its good that Tony slowed down just in case he chanted to cross, but really does it justify him getting so wound up??!! How many heart pills does Tony need to take each day to stay alive??

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

@@Jiayne1335 Sweet Dreams.

[@xusiaxod6255]

13:30 - Bmw driver

[@coffeeflavouredapples]

People have got it in there head and I have a brain fart every so often that lane 1 is 50mph, lane 2 is 60mph and lane 3 is the floor it lane when it fact you legally can do 70 mph in all three lanes

[@gamelias87]

Believe it or not, when i confronted someone for not having any headlights on at 4 AM in the morning,his answer was *i can see I don't need my headlights on*

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

They will never admit any wrongdoing and will come out with any old tosh.

[@tristanpage6805]

Love the content

[@Steve_7867]

M56 from Chester to Manchester, middle lane hogging central. Silver/grey cars and no lights in fog=invisible. Also, side lights are useless. Always an Audi, Berk in a Merk and BMW=Bloody Moron with Wheels.

[@MadderstheFox]

Dealing with lane hoggers is a difficult one and depends on my mood, the vehicle and the speed difference. More often I go right and come straight back left to prove a point, but occasionally will stay left. I always stay left if there is a lane between us, which with smart motorways these days there quite often is. So wont criticise anyone for 'undertaking' per say, but will say you chose a bad point to do it, right over a left exit.

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

Please just concentrate on YOUR driving, not everyone else.

[@MadderstheFox]

@@AndrewWhite-fu7bn you be toast on todays roads following that stupid advice.

[@MadderstheFox]

@@AndrewWhite-fu7bn if it’s ok with you I’ll continue doing just the opposite to that.

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

@@MadderstheFox This was a comment regarding lane hoggers only. MadderstheFox and his erratic moves sounded positively dodgy. After 54 years my toast is cooked perfectly. ( With Marmite only ).

[@IainDavies-z2l]

Unless the HC has changed, you had to have a foot on a Zebra crossing to expect traffic to stop.

[@thelondondashcam]

It has changed some time ago now.

[@johncranna9427]

​@thelondondashcam it hasn't. The only offence that can be committed with regards to zebra crossings is that if a pedestrian is on the crossing then approaching vehicles MUST stop. And for pedestrians when you are on the crossing you MUST NOT loiter. You are quite able to loiter beside the crossing. And the chap did not show ANY sign in wanting to cross!!!

[@thelondondashcam]

🫣 Try reading the H2 rules on zebra crossing that were introduced in 2022.

[@ryanmitcham5522]

@@thelondondashcam The two are you are talking at cross purposes here. The law itself regarding zebra crossings hasn't changed, but the advice in the highway code has. So you're both right.

[@ianmason.]

@@johncranna9427 Well, some of us try to show some consideration for pedestrians and watch for ones waiting to cross and stop for them. Not wait until they have a foot on the crossing and only then stop. You talk as if one should be driving right up to, but not over the point of committing a criminal offence. Hardly the way to conduct oneself on the roads.

[@IOnlyMadeThisToComment]

At the 0:50 mark... is that black car on the right hand side damaged, or am I seeing things?

[@ianmason.]

It's covered in police tape and it's more than a little bent out of shape.

[@StephenLyons1984]

at the start of the fog clip did the black car have police tape on it ?

[@thelondondashcam]

Yes

[@gdwnet]

Isn't there something in the highway code that says to not use headlights in fog - only fog lights if fitted?

[@ianmason.]

Nope. In fact fog lamps are ordinarily wired such that they cannot be turned on without headlights. The regulations require the use of dipped headlights in "seriously reduced visibility". Fog lamps are optional. HC Rule 226. You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 236). Law RVLR regs 25 & 27

[@cougar02000]

Cars with no lights on in fog, too many drivers do this, and it's dangerous, it needs to be made an offence to drive with no lights on, and they must be headlights not parking lights as many do, but if driving with no lights was an offence there's no police on our road to enforce it, so our road would remain a wild west show!

[@ianmason.]

It is an offence: Using a vehicle on the roads contrary to the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 regulation 25 para (1) and (1)(b). Charged under RTA 1988 S 42 Breach of construction and use requirements. Penalty - level 3 fine.

[@kevinrayner5812]

May be the car not putting its lights on was an EV with a nearly flat battery?

[@sunjamm222]

Are people switching their auto lights off. I have a merc and it got day light lights so they are on all the time and if the car detects fog the headlights are on. The rear lights are on all the time. So they are switching them off. But we not seen the fog lights are on and on and on in normal daylight.

[@malgf4145]

If you're running with DRLs on, your rear lights will not be on.

[@ryanmitcham5522]

You seem to be talking about two different things at the same time. Daytime running lights are on all the time, but are front only, no rear lights. Automatic headlights that come on when they detect low light levels will also illuminate rear lights, but often don't come on during daytime fog, because while visibility is reduced, the overall light level is high.

[@ianmason.]

@@malgf4145 Depends on the car. Some show red rear position lights _with_ DRLs (e.g. mine).

[@malgf4145]

@@ianmason. Which car do you drive ?

[@ianmason.]

@@malgf4145 BMW 330e.

[@samhenwood5746]

Thanks The London Dash Cam 🚕😊👍

[@trevorberridge6079]

[0:35] You really don't get buses do you Tony? You can't slam on the brakes when a light goes amber in front of you when you''re up to speed because some old dear in the back will get catapulted straight into casualty. You also don't seem to have three dimensional vision as you don't get that the front of the bus is already past the lights when they go red. We bus drivers are taught to judge the point at which it's dangerous to passengers to slam on the brakes if we know the front of the bus will be past the stop line when the light is still amber. Buses being big (and this isn't nearly the biggest) can also obscure the view of cars behind who can't see that the light has just started changing. In fact in the video only one of the three lights is visible from your point of view when the lights change and you're twice as far from the bus as the car in front. Also suddenly braking on an amber can cause a following car to rear end you. It may surprise you to know that some people in cars don't always pay attention to the traffic ahead of them. But I guess you've never come across that behaviour in your videos. 😜

[@heatherhoward2513]

What are lights?😅

[@suenettleton2286]

How do people drive without fog lights on could cause accident like the last clip with the arse hole with lorry enjoyed

[@ronwelford6896]

Having driven in real fog where you can just see the road in front of you I will call this thick mist and would switch my lights on .

[@mistie710]

The way I was always taught was that the lights come on when visibility drops to 10m or below. There's also the possibility that some drivers rely on the automatic light switch which, in my experience, can sometimes not work in fog.

[@tjampman]

@@mistie710 What do you mean? Do you not turn on your fog lights if visibility is 20m or 50 or 100? If so please change your behavior. If visibility is 10 meters, you shouldn't really be driving or if so at a very reduced rate.

[@johncranna9427]

​@@mistie710The Highway Code says 100 m!! I hope that you just forgot to add the extra zero!!

[@ianmason.]

@@mistie710 I do hope you meant to type 100m there, not 10m.

[@ianmason.]

The Met Office used to use the definitions of: visibility < 400m = mist, visibility < 100m = fog. I don't know if they still use those definitions.

[@xusiaxod6255]

10:18 - stupid electric Noddy car mate.

[@fatsmandela]

8:05 , you pronounced bellend wrong

[@AndrewWhite-fu7bn]

'Ding Dong' as Leslie Phillips used to say.