First time watching The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey movie reaction

Back to the Shire and middle earth we go!
Badd Medicine here and its back to The Lord of the Rings reaction. Bilbo Baggins (Martin Freeman) lives a simple life with his fellow hobbits in the shire, until the wizard Gandalf (Ian McKellen) arrives and convinces him to join a group of dwarves on a quest to reclaim the kingdom of Erebor. The journey takes Bilbo on a path through treacherous lands swarming with orcs, goblins and other dangers, not the least of which is an encounter with Gollum (Andy Serkis) and a simple gold ring that is tied to the fate of Middle Earth in ways Bilbo cannot even fathom.
Very good movie here. We get to see Frodo! Which never would’ve guessed he would’ve been in here. Gandalf is here! So awesome to have him in these series! As you know we get to follow the journey of Bilbo. We get introduced to some pretty unique Hobbits. So far his journey has been pretty interesting. The overall action was great can’t wait to see how these next 2 go!
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[@BaddMedicine]

Very good start here! What did we miss? How would you rate this one to the first movie of LOTR? Full Reactions on Patreon: www.patreon.com/baddmedicine The Hobbit The Desolation of Smaug movie reaction: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6DJfnmYi7Bkorc

[@theOneThatWas]

Is this the extended edition?

[@pieceofgosa]

Too much cgi, not enough practical effects. Despite costing more than the LotR movies, these films look cheaper & faker. That is a fail. Other than that the movies themselves are pretty dope although the inclusion of one particular character (that I won't spoil) is highly questionable & the contrived love triangle is just plain, bad writing.

[@ink-cow]

The odd thing about these movies is that the story is treated like Lord of the Rings, even though it is really more of a children's book, a fairy tale, that just happens to relate to the more epic history. They stuffed this version with a lot of LOTR lore and invented story to make it bigger. There was one other successful production of The Hobbit, an animated film produced by Rankin-Bass for TV. Although more rushed, and with an odd art style inspired (I think) by old illustrations by Arthur Rackham, it's probably closer to the spirit of the book. The weirdest trivia, Leonard Nimoy once made a record singing about Bilbo Baggins.

[@Nietsewitch]

Tolkin wrote the Silmaril first then the Hobbit then the lord of the ring, but the Silmaril was only puplished after the lord of the rings, puplishing order The hobbit, the lord of the rings, the silmarils

[@Nietsewitch]

@@pieceofgosa yeap the overuse of cgi was a bummer, here and there is stuff in the movies I dont like either, the rockgiants are stupid, the white ork storyline is a littel to much drawn out for my taste, the love story in the second movie is also to long/drawn out, the earthworms in the third movie are also not necesarry, but I dont get the people that say this movies are a fail. These movies are very good, but the lord of the rings was simply the better book and that automaticaly makes for a better movie. There is some stuff in the movies, that is not originaly in the books, but was added to the movies because tolkien mentioned them in the attachments of the lord of the rings, these scenes were great in my opinion, but also these were the most dark stuff of the movies

[@ink-cow]

In the movies, we never see the eagles talk as they do in the books. But they are (iirc) basically a kingdom unto themselves, and asking them for help would be like negotiating with the elves or any other free people. They're friends with Gandalf and will help bail him out, but they're not servants, and they're definitely not going to be flying horses for the dwarves. Even when Gandalf is rescued from Saruman's tower in LOTR, by Gwahir the Windlord, the eagle makes it clear to Gandalf that he will not fly him "to the ends of the earth"; Gandalf has to find a horse to resume his journey.

[@fantasywind3923]

Not to mention that they have limitations of their own, they are physical creatures after all. In The Hobbit we also are told about how the King of the Eagles was once healed from an arrow wound by Gandalf to which the Eagles held a debt, so out of gratitude helped the wizard and Thorin's company :). “As a matter of fact Gandalf, who had often been in the mountains, had once rendered a service to the eagles and healed their lord from an arrow-wound.”

[@baskervillebee6097]

Shadowfax, Lord Of Horses. Horses are like that. They want to go, too.

[@nouhorni3229]

"We carry messages. Not burdens."

[@jaysuscrass9119]

*Gwaihir I'm reading the Two Towers right now! i was so surprised to learn they talk, i would've loved to hear who the filmmakers cast to voice someone with a title like Windlord!

[@fantasywind3923]

@@jaysuscrass9119 there is a video game Lotr: War in the North which actually (surprisingly) does have the Eagles talking, more than one talking, and Gwaihir does appear as a character and he has very deep voice :). It's a fascinating aspect of the books, talking sentient great eagles of huge size, that can hunt for people's livestock to feed themselves hehe (and that's why they sometimes are shot at ;)). The eagle even sings near the end to the people of Minas Tirith: "And before the Sun had fallen far from the noon out of the East there came a great Eagle flying, and he bore tidings beyond hope from the Lords of the West, crying: Sing now, ye people of the Tower of Anor, for the Realm of Sauron is ended for ever, and the Dark Tower is thrown down. Sing and rejoice, ye people of the Tower of Guard, for your watch hath not been in vain, and the Black Gate is broken, and your King hath passed through, and he is victorious. Sing and be glad, all ye children of the West, for your King shall come again, and he shall dwell among you all the days of your life. And the Tree that was withered shall be renewed, and he shall plant it in the high places, and the City shall be blessed. Sing all ye people! And the people sang in all the ways of the City." Inhabitants of Middle-earth accept such cases of 'talking animals' as natural if not common elements of their world hehe.

[@alexanderb5726]

Quinn is correct, the trolls are those that we see when Frodo is poisoned by the Nazgûl in the Fellowship of the Ring where Sam remarks: "Look mr. Frodo, it's mr Bilbo's trolls!" when they lay Frodo to rest for a bit with Aragorn in a clearing. The way the trolls argue over how to cook them is also how Bilbo tells it at his birthday party to the kids if you recall.

[@garlicxlr]

But only in the Extended Edition.

[@vojta123654]

@@garlicxlr Not true, both scenes are in theatrical version.

[@garlicxlr]

@@vojta123654 Fair enough. You see the trolls in the background, but nobody points it out in dialogue.

[@crazyape515]

Which is how it actually happens lol

[@thefilmrookie3099]

@@vojta123654not the dialogue with Sam.

[@saraelena524]

Oak is a reactor who has an interesting, cute personality for me. He's like, his eyes sometimes make him looks like hes asleep during the reaction, but all of a sudden you'll hear his voice excited about something. I think it's cute 🤣

[@BaddMedicine]

😂😂😂🤙🤙🤙

[@evenstar1608]

The Hobbit was published in 1937. It is a children's book with 300 pages. Due to popular demand, the publishers wanted a sequel. After 20 years, the Lord of the Rings came out with 1,050 pages. Peter Jackson wanted to make the Hobbit first into a film but coulnt get the copyrights. But he had an access to LotR IP. And the rest is history.

[@azazello1784]

Can you go into more details about history?

[@evenstar1608]

@@azazello1784 What history? I replied to the reactors when they asked about when the Hobbit book was published.

[@papalaz4444244]

@@azazello1784 Can you stop wasting your life "This channel doesn't have any content" trying to ruin threads and waste other people's time?

[@steffi122]

@@evenstar1608 He's just wasting your time, trying to be a smart ass. He is referring to the line "the rest is history".

[@evenstar1608]

@@papalaz4444244 What do you mean by that? Pls elaborate.

[@cgrimes34]

This trilogy has a slightly different feel and style compared to Lord of the Rings. I’ve always felt that, in universe, part of that reason is that the events of The Lord of the Rings is a story being retold from Frodo’s perspective. But this trilogy is being retold from the perspective of Bilbo. The variations in how the two hobbits write down their own adventures is part of why we the audience see the stories a little differently.

[@rrebecaa]

Woah. Never thought of it that way! I like it.. I always chalked up the difference in tone to The Hobbit being a children's book and LOTR an being adult fantasy novel (or the equivalent - don't think there was that exact genre title back when they were published lol). But I like your reasoning way better. Bilbo carried the Ring longer, but from the joking around he does at his Bday party, you can tell he was somehow not as affected by it as Frodo was. Bilbo seems more light-hearted even in old age, so makes sense his story isn't as 'heavy' as Frodo's.

[@jackbrian4929]

@@rrebecaa i mean yeah it being a children book is a bigger reason . But thats kinda what he is saying . Frodo wrote it as an adult story while hobbit was written as a childrens story for frodo i imagine

[@steffi122]

@@rrebecaa Also it is explained that why Bilbo wasn't that effected is because Sauron hadn't regained so much of his power. While Frodo was travelling with the ring Sauron was starting the get powerful again. All he needed was ring. Naturally it was darker. But I agree with both of you. The stories being child vs adult book and bilbo vs frodo pov.

[@MrDatandroid]

Woah! You blew my mind, sir! Incredible way to look at the two stories!

[@beetlebob4675]

Also, The Hobbit was an adventure story reccomended to boys ages 8-10 in 1937, while LoTR is a fantasy epic, and an historical account written for an older audience, and published in the early 60s. And The Silmarillion is like a textbook crossed with the bible. Lol dunno how the Amazon series will feel. I'm worried and excited.

[@monkfishy6348]

4:44 Tolkien actually invented the pronunciation and spelling of Dwarven (possessive) and Dwarves (plural). As well as Elven and Elves. Before that it was always Dwarf (possessive) / Dwarfs (plural) and Elf/Elfs. His editor and publisher really tried to get him to change it, but he refused. Being a master linguist and having deep knowledge of the roots of the words, he was adamant that Dwarven/Dwarves and Elven/Elves made more sense. Which is what we now use today.

[@papalaz4444244]

The Eagles won't go near the dragon. It's a simple as that. There are no birds around the Lonely Mountain because Smaug is there. That's why the lone thrush that goes there and taps the mountain is significant. It's an omen of change.

[@Cameron5043]

The idea of dragon fire hitting the eagles turns my blood cold. Just no.

[@vqgue3032]

A little (lot) late but this is the same reason they didn't take the eagles all the way to Mount doom. The dragonlike creatures the nazgul rode would have killed them

[@maexslg-at]

in the books they explain that humans are far too good with bows and will hurt them

[@HBMHD]

Nah, it's lazy writing

[@DavyJones_]

@@HBMHDno it’s not, the eagles are only allowed to help if the evil( mainly Sauron) cannot be stopped by the elves,man,dwarves and so on. They are Maiar.

[@scalefree]

we know where Balin ended up - "Balin son of Fundin, Lord of Moria"

[@cozenw3236]

Balin, the eldest member of the group and the dwarf that was telling about the story of how Thorin Oakenshield took up a piece of wood and defended his father against Azog (the battle where Azog killed his grandfather the king by beheading), is the dwarf that is lain in the tomb in the Fellowship of the Rings. The pages that Gandalf reads from in that tomb was taken from the skeleton remains of Ori, the dwarf who doesn’t like eating green things and was the loudest and longest one to burp from Bilbo’s dining room table. Gloin is Gimli’s father. They did a great job on casting and makeup because he does look similar to the character we all know and love from LOTR, Gimili.

[@TheaElaine]

I like the Lord or the Rings better myself, and it took me until the end of the second movie in the Hobbit trilogy to understand why. TLOTR was undeniably epic. It had a few funny moments but mostly it was a serious and weighty series. I mean it was understood that the world depended on the mission succeeding. Then the Hobbit comes out and you know it is Bilbo’s story and you expect it to be just as epic as TLOTR. But it isn’t. It isn’t played as serious or weighty. Instead you have singing dwarves and goblins and a the quirky brown wizard with bird poop on his head. And the trolls that act stupid but not terrifying at all. After TLOTR it was a let down at first for me. But then I kind of got it. This was when the ring was first found and evil was just starting to creep back in the world. It wasn’t reestablished and everyone was fighting for their lives yet. So it was a much more innocent time. And the mission wasn’t really life or death for the world or even a country or a race of people, it was a small group trying to reclaim a mountain that was their home and held their treasure in it. It wasn’t really meant to be an epic story, just a grand adventure story. Once I got that and watched the movies with that in mind, I liked and appreciated them a lot more.

[@Jehphg]

Exactly

[@hydro6en317]

are talking about the films or the books? because the books were completely different. for one thing, the Hobbit has more character development than TLOTR. all TLOTR was about was the ring & Sauron. nothing else. the Hobbit also had more backstory on the lore. characters in the Hobbit also did not just let Bilbo go on his own like they did to Frodo in TLOTR. other characters in the Hobbit helped Bilbo throughout the story which added to the character development. TLOTR just threw characters & situations together. i don't know. from a writer's perspective, the Hobbit was a better stort then TLOTR. 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@fantasywind3923]

@@hydro6en317 that's an interesting take, for some actually criticise the Hobbit book for not developing the dwarven characters too much (obvioulsy with so many of them it harder to divide attention between every and each one, though particular dwarves are more memorable than others. There are numerous narrative purposes why things are the way they are in both Lotr and Hobbit book, Frodo initially goes out in secret, he actually tries to hide that he is leaving Shire, and also he was supposed to be met with Gandalf in Bree (and in case he wasn't to show up, Aragorn was to pick him up), both in The Hobbit and Lotr there are side adventures on the road, but all in a way connect, and in Lotr even such an episode like Tom Bombadil and Barrow Downs section are having a purpose, for heroes it's more of a treshold they need to cross so to speak. The Hobbit is naturally more concerned with the main protagonist Bilbo, though other charactes like Thorin and the plight of the Dwarves is important as well (though I think the movies did way too much shifting focus here). Lotr was more interconnected in how consequences of some events led to another in a proper cause and effect chain, there are things happening early that foreshadow the future events and so on!

[@fandaklada609]

The Dwarven song was actually pretty good.

[@redcactusify2071]

Funny. All the point you mentioned are the reason why I liked the Hobbit trilogy more than LOTR. I'm a little bit oversensitiv and found the LOTR a little bit too heavy. Not at the time but in retrospect I realised the reason why I like the Hobbit more is that lighter tone they set. Plus the End is really epic (trying not to spoil anything) and the dialogue from Thorin taken nearly word by word from the books. Also that extended storyline of Gandalf in the second movie is acually told in the LOTR books, so it's nice to see it on screen too. (For all of you who havent seen the extended versions of these movies, please do. In the last one there is missing so much because the film crew couldn't finish all they wanted/needed in time)

[@peterkoester7358]

The Oak missed the "I'm going on an Adventure!" meme!

[@josiegardin1163]

I grew up with the LOTR , as a little kid I would watch them constantly! When the hobbit came out, I watched them in the theater which I didn't do with LOTR because I was too young, but that was an incredible experience. My sister who has read all the books, always told me not to question Tolkiens great mind, there is always a reason for everything in his stories.

[@BaddMedicine]

Not bad advice from your sister. Will you be checking out the new series on Amazon?

[@camrynmcgarry2117]

I grew up with the LOTR movies, too!!!! I rewatched them enough I can mouth along with all the Middle Earth movies!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was old enough to see the Hobbit trilogy in theaters and saw them all Christmas day with my entire family!!!! We all LOOOVVVEEE all these movies!!!!! My older brother introduced me to these movies!!! I must've only been 4 or 5 and I remember peeping around the corner while he was watching Return of the King and I remember them talking about the ring being a burden and my young mind went to "bird, what bird"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@papalaz4444244]

"forged in Gondolin" tells us the swords are from the First Age of Middle Earth. 6000+ years old. Gondolin was a hidden Elf city in the First Age. It was eventually destroyed by the forces of Morgoth. He is the Satan of Middle Earth and Sauron was one of his servants. They are very powerful swords indeed, and Sting was also made then. (as a dagger or something like that)

[@beetlebob4675]

I'm so curious if they'll reference or depict these details in the Amazon series. I'm also worried they'll totally mess it up. I'm gonna cross my fingers, toes, arms and legs. Lol

[@livingphantom]

@@beetlebob4675 Well they did mention "The enemy" and pretty boi Sauron is there too so my hopes are high.

[@JeM130177]

Martin said the Gollum scene was one of the first scenes they did and they played prettt much the whole thing start to end in one take like a play and they both loved it. Also fun fact Andy Serkis was a second unit director on these movies!

[@AshtailFoxclaw]

I watched this movie in the cinemas, and when Smaug appeared at the end and growled, the whole room shook. It felt like he was right there, and it put my heart in my throat. I've never been so in love before!

[@JeM130177]

Yeah Fili and Kili are Thorin's nephews that line was clearly blessed with the handsome dwarf genes 🤣🤣 they did try a few things with Kili like a biggee nose etc but it all looked pretty unnatural so they didn't change too much. Kili's actor btw is pretty well known here (Aidan Turner) he's the lead of a period drama called Poldark. Also Thorin's actor (Richard Armitage) is pretty established too. Ken Stott who plays Balin has been in a few things here too but I'd say of the dwarves Bofur (errr...he's the one that has the chat with Bilbo when he's considering leaving before they meet the Goblins) is the most well know he's played by James Nesbitt he's in loaaads of shows here in the UK & Ireland. Nori (err, he doesn't have many lines..he has the sort of star shaped hair) is played by Jed Brophy who is good mates with Peter Jackson and had a lot of extra parts on LOTR. Including the Uruk rider ofthe warg that takes Aragorn pver the cliff, and the squeaky orc that gets decapitated for dinner when they want to eat Merry and Pippin 🤣. I also believe he's a rohan soldier, an elf, a ring wraith at points..he crops up a lot. And his son actually played Aragorn and Arwen's son in the vision she has in Return of the King!

[@CaptainPikeachu]

Some trivia: one of the dwarves in this company is Gloin, that’s Gimli’s father, he’s the one who reacted to Elrond offering them food; also Balin is the one whose tomb we saw Gimli cry over in Moria in the first film, and it was Ori’s body who was clutching the book that Gandalf picked up to read about what had happened. The LOTR is a more traditional fantasy epic, whereas I always felt that the Hobbit is more of a whimsical adventure tale, after all, it was written to be more or less of a children’s story. I always thought the first Hobbit movie really captured that style of lighthearted whimsy. The later films kinda changed tone to be more serious to line up with LOTR and the more darker moments to come. The Hobbit trilogy isn’t perfect and there was a lot of issues behind the scenes in getting these films made. But overall I still enjoyed them very much and this cast is absolutely wonderful.

[@Pretzils1031]

After you finish the Hobbit series, I would recommend watching "the last goodbye". It's a song sung by the actor who played Pippin. It's a beautiful wrap up to both trilogies.

[@maximillianosaben]

These three movies are fun, but the behind-the-scenes about it are almost even more fascinating. Peter Jackson took over as director after Guillermo Del Toro dropped out after two years of pre-production. Jackson really worked himself exhausted completing what was originally going to be two films, and turning them into three. All the same, the next two are awesome!

[@katherinelove6910]

Yes! Agreed! Since they liked the 20th HP anniversary, they would really enjoy the behind the scenes of lotr!

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

I would have loved to see a Del Toro interpretation. Studios are bastids.

[@nouhorni3229]

Lindsey Ellis has a great 3 part documentary on the films on her channel, interviewing actors and flying out to New Zealand. Anyone interested in bts stuff should watch that one.

[@redcactusify2071]

I totally agree. I seriously have watched the behind-the-scenes more often that the movies itself!

[@nmmknh8997]

I absolutely LOVE the Hobbit movies. I don't understand why some people don't like them ❤

[@Amradye]

Radagast the Brown is my absolute favorite character, because he’s so naturally kind 😊

[@ruud9761]

Dragons loving gold has been a common thing in fantasy. I once heard the explanation that gold is to a dragon as a good bed is to us. And considering that most dragons live for ages and are often depicted as lazy or endless slepers, then you can image how much a good "bed" would mean for a dragon. BTW I just read this somewhere and do not remember where, so this might not be applicable within the LotR universe. I just remember that I liked the explanation.

[@Aereton]

in many mythologies, dragons are the embodiment of evil desires and/or chaos

[@actionalex3611]

@@Aereton Like todays capitalism lol

[@Aereton]

@@actionalex3611 capitalism, communism... it all attracts the worst people that exist

[@ShiningDarknes]

There is the notion that even dragons don't know why they desire gold and other valuables, they just do. Sure they are depicted as sleeping on and/or in it but really that is just because that is the best place to be in order to protect it even while sleeping. All dragons, good or evil are depicted as desiring hordes of treasure. In some stories they do so as a show of power but really that is just a side-effect, they don't gather treasure to let others see how powerful they are, they have nothing to prove, in fact sometimes a more powerful dragon will just come along and take a less powerful one's hoard. This lack of reason is why coveting masses of wealth above all else is called "Dragon Sickness," even in other stories, because it is a madness.

[@kobarsos82]

Its mostly a matter of pride, greed and self-admiration, almost to the point of narcissism. You consider yourself the greatest being, so all the treasure is supposed to belong to you and nobody else, especially if a treasure has history and is a symbol of wealth. Higher beings, as simple as that. Pride is everything to a dragon. To add even more to that, regarding the laziness, when dragons collected all the treasure, it also acted as a means to attract adventurers and other enemies. Gold attracts many foes. Well guess what that's the easiest way to get food in your doorstep. Dragons absolutely loved that part of getting food this easily so it adds even more to their plan of hoarding gold. Always has been like this, in various dragon mythologies.

[@blinkachu5275]

I think the problem for a lot of people is that they're comparing it to the Lord of the Rings, to me personally I do enjoy the Hobbit movies, however to me the CGI is a bit of a disappointment. Not because the CGI looks bad, a lot of the CGI looks better, but the unnecessary CGI for a lot of things that the Lord of the Rings did practical. Basically a similar issue as between the older Star Wars movies and the prequels, when most things went CGI.

[@mourningwoodward]

This. There was just something more... engaging about LOTR's practical effects, especially as far as the Orcs are concerned. The Hobbit trilogy are good movies, but I've always thought their over-reliance on CGI was unfortunate. Overall though, The Hobbit (the novel) had a much more kid-friendly feel, so I can at least shrug off the special effects as an attempt at a more "family movie" vibe or something. lol

[@pogofgreed3707]

These movies would have been filled with practical affects if Peter wasn’t on a time constraint due to the higher ups being petty annoyances.

[@nessrose]

This! I absolutely love the Hobbit trilogy but the overuse of CGI throws off the whole experience a bit. Especially, when you watch it after LotR. The whole trilogy has a hazy, blurry look to it. Still love it, though. Gave me Thorin 💕

[@ItsLycheee]

I read the book and watched the movies (when they came out) when I was really young and I have no idea why, but I have been in love with Kili since I was a kid - The fact that the actor playing him in the movies was so incredibly handsome didn’t help😂 Kili was always my favorite. I have all of the dwarves ranked in a favorites list that I made when I was like 13 or something😂

[@karake456]

You guys remind me of my dad so much, funny and endearing big guys who like movies. Whatever I miss him, your videos make me feel less alone. Great work! I'm glad I found your harry potter's reaction.

[@BaddMedicine]

This is a great compliment 🤘 sorry to hear about your father. Pretty cool to hear he enjoyed films too!

[@psychobetha]

15:20 i was so happy to see they added Radagast the Brown. he was always one of my favorite Tolkien characters, despite his limited time on the page 💜

[@babybunloaf]

i really love that the actor is the 7th doctor too

[@kminpersonal7999]

I love Thranduil character.. Lee Pace was so good with this role 😊😊

[@s1lm4r1l6]

"But Gold can only be exchanged for goods and services. Why does the dragon want it if not to spend it?" He loves the shiny shit.

[@lynnettesue6240]

Tamatoa agrees with you (and Smaug). 🤣 "Shiny Watch me dazzle like a diamond in the rough Strut my stuff, my stuff is so Shiny"

[@scalefree]

if you think Bilbo's food stores are excessive just remember how Merry & Pippin ate. Hobbits really like to eat, you need something for Second Breakfast too,

[@_Moonlit_]

I always hate when certain lotr fans in comments can’t talk about the hobbit without putting it down or saying lotr is better. Tbh it’s obvious lotr is superior overall when comparing everything anyway no one denies that, so I just don’t get why it has to keep being said as people who just prefer the hobbit don’t actually ever try and say they think it’s better or put down lotr yet people who prefer lotr can’t help themselves. They’re literally the same universe they’re on the same side just enjoy them, the films were never trying to outdo each other it’s just lotr fans that take it that way for some reason. Also you wouldn’t have the story of Frodo without Bilbo’s coming before so… respect please!

[@robertcaldwell9205]

i know a lot of people talk about the eagles and how they could fly them there. but if i remember correctly in the books when they talked to the eagles they were very self centered and pretty much refused to involve themselves with land walkers unless it suited them or just a whim. hence why they only showed themselves at the end of return of the king. there could be more to it, it has been a long time since i read the hobbit.

[@getspun6961]

Anyone who makes that argument is silly 🤣 it’s pretty explained a lot as to why they couldn’t fly the eagles 🤣the boys have also already spoke about this exact thing in their lotr reactions … Oh I realise how why u probably commented it after seeing them have a lil joke at the end there .

[@nemesis4852]

Very nice reaction guys. As I recall, Tolkien got started writing because he totally loved languages. J.R.R. and his brother were born in South Africa, their Mother decided to bring them to England because she was concerned for their health and also where she had family. Soon after, her husband died in South Africa and she was left pretty stranded because her convertion to Catholicism caused her family to reject her. At the time she was homeschooling her boys, quite well I should say, as she was well educated and knew several languages. She was helped by a very decent Catholic Priest, Father Francis Xavier Morgan who recognized the boys' talent and got them both into good schools. Soon thereafter the boys' mother also died. After graduating from Oxford J.R.R. was drafted into the English Army where he served on the Western front where he lost several of his University friends and nearly died himself from illness. He actually started making notes for LOTR while in the trenches. After his return to England and marriage to the love of his life Edith, he began writing "The Hobbit" as a novel to entertain their own children. The rest as they say is history! That's the short version!

[@MaliaGee]

I love how Oak kept all HP stuff with him haha I’ve been a HP since I was a kid but I didn’t get into Tolkien’s world until the Hobbit. The reason is because when LOTR came out I was too young to understand the story. On the other hand, I did love the Hobbit and it felt weird because many LOTR fans hate it so when I turned 30 I gave it another chance and I fell in love with it. That’s when I first saw your videos and here I am waiting for your new reactions.

[@BaddMedicine]

Oh yeah, I don't think anything here that's Potter merch will be moving. Lol interesting to here you started with the Hobbits.

[@GenXDaddyO]

I don’t understand all the hate/dislike for this series. I grew up reading the books and watching the 70s animated versions of The Hobbit and LOTR, and while they were good, they left a lot to be desired in many ways. Getting live-action versions with modern effects and fantastic actors was a dream come true.

[@Evija3000]

There's many great things about it but also... so much filler. I think that's the part that generates the most dislike. I mean the dwarf-elf romance was just awkward :D As one or two movies it could have been amazing.

[@bluezauza]

I like the first movie a lot, but then everything went down the hill with the other two. They are good entertainment but so many unnecessary changes.

[@di3486]

After Amazon drops their degeneracy, these movies will shine as a beacon of hope.

[@bluezauza]

@@di3486 So true.

[@egobang0716]

@@Evija3000Some scenes could have been shorter instead of drawn out for more drama I agree. And yeah some of it is filler, but other stuff is from the Appendices of Lord of the Rings that Tolien wrote himself, and that Peter Jackson decided to add into the Hobbit movies. I completely agree that the dwarf/elf romance between Kili/Tauriel was unnecessary. Not only was it awkward, it completely undermines the power of Legolas and Gimli's relationship as the first dwarf/elf friendship in literal centuries.

[@handrefraction4403]

I love these movies. Not as good as the LOTR trilogy but they are incredibly enjoyable

[@steph7943]

I'm a fan of the books and movies, I even love The Hobbit films for what they are. Could they have made just one movie? Yeah probably, but what they added is fun and adds depth to the story. The first one is also very true to the book and they stray as they go on. I constantly quote "what does it got in its nasty little pocketses?!" "He stoles it!" and "these are Rhosgobel rabbits, I'd like to see them try!" The Misty Mountains Song was also almost what I used to walk down the aisle. So yeah, even as a book fan, I still love these movies

[@isabelmorales4812]

me and my siblings totally quote what has it got in its nasty little pocketses when we see someone smuggling a snack. the scream after is mandatory too😂

[@darthrevan1712]

Not sure who all will understand this, but I grew up watching the 1977 Hobbit and 1978 Lord of the Rings, and whenever Gandalf says "Run!" when the Wargs are chasing them into the trees at the end, I can only think of one thing. "Fifteen Dwarves! In five fur trees! Oh what shall we do, with the funny little things? Oh, what shall we do, with the funny little things". The soundtrack to the original movies were phenomenal and throughout the Hobbit trilogy, I just hear the 1977 Hobbit soundtrack playing in my head haha.

[@siruh]

For Tolkien “goblin” and “orc” are two translations of the same word. He wrote The Hobbit first and you could definitely say he didn’t expect it to do so well and hadn’t quite merged the entire LOTR world with the hobbit in full early on. This is all very broad summary, but basically he made a second edition of the book lining everything up better and has been quoted in letters that he just likes the word orc better and it feels more accurate. But there are definitely differences in orcs and it comes down to sub-breeds

[@scalefree]

remember the story Bilbo told the kids at his Party? about the 3 Trolls who wanted to eat them? now you know how it went down. you'll also see them in their final frozen form in Fellowship on the way to Rivendell.

[@demyanrudenko]

25:55 It's not that "they don't know yet", as I recall at this point Saruman simply wasn't corrupted yet, he hasn't been until he started using the palantir (seeing stone).

[@psymetric3684]

The biggest problem with The Hobbit is that its a trilogy. It's stretched out from 1 small book. That causes it to have many unnecessarily stretched out scenes. If they made it 1 or 2 movies it would probably be pretty amazing.

[@benjamintash6032]

Agreed

[@JeM130177]

AW YEEE HERE WE GO. Guys I cannot tell you, as someone who saw the initial LOTR films, they became my favourite movies ever and I've never stopped loving them, the build up to this first movie was SO SO exciting. Getting leaks of the soundtrack, Peter Jackson posted a couple of behind the scenes not too spoilery video diaries of production. I remember one of them ending with the reveal of Christopher Lee which was so much fun. I woke up at 3am to watch the stream of the New Zealans premiere then went to uni later that day. I have such strong wonderful memories of the whole build up. Ugh I just...these movies were like such a big Peter Jackson middle earth hug it completely eclipsed any issues I had with them and I do have a couple but generally i just love them. The book is a much easier read than LOTR and i busted through it and it was very fun. Martin Freeman is one of my favourite actors I'm so pleased they went above and beyond to get him for this (they literally had to delay production because he was committed to season 2 of Sherlock and initially had to turn down the role and Peter Jackson was saying about being sat in bed watching Sherlock on his ipad like...gahhh we need him! 🤣🤣). ANYWAY i should probably actually watch this video.

[@BaddMedicine]

Haha all good. Thanks for this🤘

[@thaispublio7879]

Kkkkkkk it's so nice to see your reaction, and Hobbit is just amazing! Martin Freeman is perfect as Bilbo!!

[@monkfishy6348]

32:20 Goblins are Orcs. Just a different kind of breed and they live under mountains (especially the Misty Mountains). Similar to how the Uruk-Hai that Saruman creates in LOTR, are also Orcs.

[@coryspang7548]

I love the Hobbit films. Sure, they're not as great as the LOTR films, but they're still really good. I own Desolation of Smaug and I have a habit of watching it at least once every year. Benedict Cumberbatch voiced Smaug the Dragon and also the Necromancer/Sauron in disguise. His Black Speech is pretty good.

[@erwingvargas2272]

When they mentioned Gondolin I lost my shit man, it's so small of a reference but still so awesome I mean that was Turgon's sword Glamdring

[@heathwitch]

05:04 - To quote a line from the 1982 movie, The Flight of Dragons, “Because dragons tend to ignite ordinary bedding, they must find a soft metal to sleep on, and gold proves most comfortable for them.” 😉 That’s an interesting animated movie to watch, and it’s based around the 1979 book of the same name by Peter Dickinson. 

Though I prefer LOTR over The Hobbit (both in terms of books and movies), I love how they portrayed Smaug here and I’m excited for your reactions to his full reveal. I admit, though, my heart was stolen by Draco in the 1996 movie DragonHeart - a more compassionate dragon, when compared to Smaug, but just as mighty. If you have not seen DragonHeart, I whole-heartedly recommend it - Sean Connery voices Draco, and David Thwelis also stars (you’ll recognise him from Harry Potter - he played Lupin). Tolkien famously said, “I desired dragons with a profound desire”, and, in terms of the books, The Hobbit was published in 1937, and LOTR between 1954-5. Originally, LOTR was supposed to be a two-volume set (along with The Silmarillion, which goes into the mythology of the world in which Middle-earth can be found), but the publishers felt that LOTR would be too long for readers, so it was divided into three volumes (each with two parts). The Hobbit was a singular volume, and meant to be a story for children. In terms of filming, if I recall correctly, all three LOTR movies were filmed concurrently between October 1999-December 2000, whereas filming for The Hobbit took place between July-December 2011 and then again in May-July 2013. 

 Thanks for a great reaction, guys! Looking forward to the next one. 😊

[@gabrielleauclair254]

For me my favorite dragon is Saphira from Eragon 😊

[@BrianSmith-jx7td]

Dragonheart is one of my all time favorite movies in fact I just watched it this afternoon

[@seregrian5675]

Glad to see you boys are tackling "The Hobbit" at last. I for one, cannot wait to see Oak's reaction to the second movie!

[@jackcooper2870]

To answer the Eagle questions, the only answer to not riding them to mordor or to the mountain,,, in an interview with tolkien he was asked about it and his answer was simply 'shut up' 😅

[@SchneiderRammGirl]

I do love the LOTR films, but the Hobbit films have a special place in my heart, because I saw them first & what made me fall in love with Middle Earth franchise, now I've found that you guys have reacted to it too makes it 100% even more special to me now, thank you so much! ❤💚💛

[@edwardsadler3348]

A Dragon coverts gold because.. wood burns, the ground gunks up their scales.. other mettle rusts.. gold stays pure smoother and comfortable to sleep in sometimes for centuries..

[@alexianigollarza3583]

I'm just starting to watch the reaction and I have to say this before I watch the whole thing. I LOVE how the Oak's mic is dressed lol. I love the scarf and the glasses!! you guys are the best!

[@BaddMedicine]

Haha yeah, the Potter gear is here to stay! 😁🤙

[@chris.sevsnp]

Wow. Couldn't even imagine that you'll be watching the Hobbit so soon. Thanks, guys, for your reactions. Go on 🤘😜

[@lottelarsen2918]

Nori the dwarf is played by actor Jed Brophy.... he played most different parts in LOTR 😊 His son played Aragorn and Arwens son in LOTR 😊 And Yes you are right, the 3 trolls appear in LOTR 😊

[@siruh]

Yes! He is a killed stuntman and actor, he played a total of 7 roles throughout the LOTR and Hobbit movies

[@lottelarsen2918]

@@siruh you mean "skilled " 😉

[@scalefree]

Dwarves' envy of Elves goes back to the time of their creation. they were created by one of the Valar named Aule who kind of jumped the gun on Eru's plan that Elves were to be first born. so they were put to sleep until the Elves were created & then brought back out. you can see how that might lead to an inferiority complex. also created with the Dwarves? Ents, to protect the trees from Dwarven axes.

[@charissakington606]

This is my FAVORITE of the ENTIRE series - both Hobbit and Rings. The humor, music, and action - just delightful. ❤️

[@Lapreghiera]

Smeagol/Gollum isn't as haggard because he's in his "home" of the last hundreds of years living his comfortable lonely existence with the ring sustaining him. The 60 years without the ring aged him and he was tortured in Mordor to give up the likely location of the ring. He was desperate and dying

[@demyanrudenko]

The eagles could most definitely fly them all the way this time, BUT. While eagles are ancient and powerful creatures, akin to maiar that are Gandalf, Saruman or Sauron, they prefer not to meddle in Middle-Earth business (unless asked), and most (non-elvish) Middle-Earth inhabitants see them as beasts at most. Archers would be of great danger to them, not to mention they would be travelling towards a dragon, who by definition can fly. Edit: The main trilogy reason would be a different one altogether, they wouldn't want to be anywhere near the ring for the same reason Gandalf and Galadriel feared to touch it.

[@papalaz4444244]

They are not Maiar. They have no magical power. They have no soul. They are more like elemental creatures of nature.

[@rustyshackleford6906]

I love everything about what you said here, but I'd just like to say that the first dragon in Middle Earth, Glaurung couldn't fly. Not to detract from what you said that is, it was well known that Smaug could fly.

[@Algorythmfpv]

17:20 YOU WUT? is one of my favorite lines, when you aren't on your first time through trying to notice every little detail and pay close attention take a laugh at that, because is dumbfounded "you wot?" will get you crackin up with your homies.

[@philipbutler6608]

You know that Tolkien was asked about why the Eagles didn’t fly them to the mountain or Frodo to Mordor. His answer was “Shut Up!”. The eagles don’t give a F about men who shoot at them with arrows when they hunt their sheep. So they don’t frequent population center. It was a children’s story Tolkien was surprised and I think you can see his writing improved from first chapter of hobbit to the last chapter. He never intended to write the Lord of the Rings the popularity of the Hobbit forced him into it. There is a movie Called Tolkien it’s very good from what I hear. He started creating Middle Earth as a child. If you read the Dead Marches it is a description of the Battlefield of the Somme where Tolkien fought. He even used the term no and lands. The Silmarillion is the Creation story and would make several good movies in their own rights. He started the Silmarillion during the war and it was published after his death.

[@jerem442]

Uhm... no the eagles dont fly them around because gandalf was given 3 favors from the Lord of Eagles after Gandalf saved him. As a gift the eagles helped with the battle atop the cliff with Azog. They helped when gandalf fell and needed a ride from the top of the tower when he was trapped. He then asked for help at the Black Gates as a last resort to still the gaze of Sauron as it was fixed on Frodo. So while you are partially correct.

[@alfredvickers4054]

That audio clip of Tolkien saying, "Shut up" is fake, FYI. Just a joke someone made. I knew right away because there are real surviving audio clips of him and he sounds different, not to mention he very much had an answer to the eagle question. And he didn't start his mythology as a child but in the trenches of WWI. Some of his childhood experiences influenced his later work (for instance, as a toddler he was bitten by a venomous spider in South Africa, and later back in England he lived for a time in a place that surely inspired the Shire) but he didn't start the stories then.

[@lanagievski1540]

The Hobbit was initially written stand-alone in the 30’s for his children, which is why it has a different tone than LOTR. Once LOTR came into the picture he reworked The Hobbit to feed more into LOTR. For instance the one ring that Gollum finds was just one of many magical rings found in the world in the original book before it was reworked, then it was changed to be this all powerful, all consuming thing

[@galmanferguson]

Can't wait until you guys watch Desolation of Smaug. It's the best of the films in my opinion.

[@Mikerille]

In most mythology: whatever a dragon covets above all else sustains them when they’re in proximity of it. For most it’s gold, some it’s jade, etc. like a vampire with infinite blood supply

[@scalefree]

Gondolin: an Elven kingdom in the First Age, famous for evading destruction by the first Dark Lord Morgoth by building in a secret location inspired in a dream by one of the Valar. Gondolin lasted nearly 400 years, an impressive feat.

[@griesi31]

Thranduil is my absolute favorite character in the Hobbit trilogy. I'm looking forward to seeing how you like him.

[@cgrimes34]

The fictional universe was conceived originally during Tolkien’s time in World War 1 (1914-1918). The Hobbit came out in 1937. The Lord of the Rings books came out in the mid 1950s. I watched an old interview once where Tolkien was asked about how the Ring became what it is. He answered that the ring was meant to be mostly just an invisibility ring in this story. But upon having the idea for LOTR, he didn’t think the story would work well if Bilbo’s ring was just one of many, it had to be THEE ring, the main one. So that part of the story evolved from there.

[@pilot1647]

These films, specifically the first two, are some of my best comfort films.

[@byron7583]

I'm not a big fan of the Hobbit movies, but I'm still gonna watch because I love your reaction videos. Call the doctor!!

[@BaddMedicine]

hahaha Lets goooooo! We have seen comments on our LORTs with people that either liked or didn't.

[@acac92]

Hell yeaah! Here we go again. Greetings from Germany!

[@BaddMedicine]

Greetings from the states! Cheers! Let's gooooo!

[@intenzfrenzy7374]

The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit are my favorite movies of all time

[@Tchika]

I can't see anywhere if you are watching the extended edition, but at least for the third movie it is absolutely necessary. They have cut out actual essential scenes in the theatrical version.

[@WraithWTF]

19:55 Quinn is correct, those trolls are the large statues that you see in the torchlight while Aragorn is looking for athelas/kingsfoil to help keep Frodo from succumbing to the Morgul blade he'd been stabbed with. Sam points them out in an attempt to keep Frodo awake and aware, "Look Mr Frodo, it's Mr Bilbo's trolls!" 43:00 Lol, they don't really touch on it in the movies, but in fairness to the books, there was an answer provided on why the eagles don't just carry them the whole way...the settlements of Men along the way would try to shoot them down for hunting the flocks of sheep, and the eagles don't want to take the risk of getting shot just to ferry some dwarves around. 55:00 The first Hobbit movie was quite good, and stayed pretty true to the source material. The second and third movies are where they started stuffing in filler to expand them and justify making a third movie, because the studio really really wanted another trilogy despite the book not being long enough a story to support one. Some of the filler is quite good, as it's from Tolkien's own writing (appendices from LOTR and the Hobbit), and some of it is pretty terrible (stuff that the studio came up with). Had they just stuck with Tolkien's material (both the Hobbit and the appendices material), they could've made two exceptional films that would've been very well-received. Instead, well, they did what they did, we got what we got, and it got the reception it got.

[@tuuli4002]

I love it that this movie is about 70 % of Gandalf justsaving their asses XD

[@TheEbruce]

Well, Tolkien wrote the hobbit first as a children's book. He created the entire world in the SimRillian. The Lord of the Rings was a masterpiece of creation with regard to all the languages alone. There is very interesting piece of trivia, and t h at is Tolkien and cs Lewis of lion witch and the wardrobe fame meet every Thursday night at a pub in Oxford called he Eagle and the Child to discuss story ideas. They were called the inkling. I was blessed to go there and had their favorite ale it was a wheat based flavor.

[@Proteus2905]

Imagine this conversation: Azog to Thorin "What have you done, dwarf?! You've cut it clean off!!" Thorin "Aw don't worry about it, my big fellow, that was just my Hands-Off-Me!"

[@MissMarchHare]

And the eagle question blew my mind.

[@TheFoolish727]

45:44 it’s a relief to hear someone else unapologetically love these movies. If it wasn’t for these I would have never seen The Lord of the Rings

[@TallisKeeton]

"Hobbit" was published first but the thing is that it was at first edition a book separated from this whole universum of Arda. Tolkien started to write Arda universum about 1915 or 1916 writing at first short poetries about meetings between men and elves (at first they were named "gnomes" and they were magical, beautiful and wise but also a bit smaller than humans) - and by the times of publishing of "the Hobbit" he didnt want to mix up this short kids adventure story with his great universum of Arda in which we can find Gondor and Numenor and Galadriel and Sauron and Valars and such. There were some bits from it in "the hobbit" like Rivendell and lord Elrond, and an unnamed king of woodland elves. But in the first edition Gollum was big dark monster, not originated from hobbits and the ring was only a magic trincket of invisibility, and Gollum was even helpful to Bilbo and showed him the way out after their riddle game. It was only after LOTR was published in 50s - as a sequel of "the hobbit" (by request of the publisher) but the setting of LOTR was obviously more like the setting of "The Silmarilion" with great continents and empires than the setting of "the hobbit" - that Tolkien had to change many things in the old book to connect it to the new book. :)

[@artsysabs]

Been waiting for this and just happened to catch this while fresh out 😋

[@blaublaubeere]

Nice to see you diving back into The Middle-Earth! I have mixed feelings about The Hobbit series, and a lot of the criticism I have is not the fault of the film crew but because of the alterations and additions the Warner Bros studios demanded from them. If the crew had had more artistic freedom, I feel the series would have been a lot better. (This is something the actors have talked about as well) But I still like the series, or actually, I absolutely LOVE the 1rst movie, especially the extended edition that gives us more scenes and time to really get to know the characters better. The 2nd movie is good, there's a lot I really like about it, but well the 3rd movie is in my opinion a hot mess with some a few great scenes thrown into it. The ending of the 2nd movie and the whole 3rd movie suffered the most from the changes I think - like Warner Bro's decision (and partially Jackson's it seems) to make The Hobbit into a trilogy. Plus as there was a lot of changes behind the scenes and next to no prep-time for the crew before the filming began, which probably affected the films quite a bit. Still, the acting was amazing, I adore all the dwarves and a lot of the other characters and I was very happy the see this story come to life. And the developing relationship between Therin and Bilbo is so beautifully done and the actors did a great job & had great chemistry - which is important because I feel that their relationship is basically the heart of these movies.

[@jawo8754]

@BaddMedicine The one who said, “Oin has read the portents” was Gloin, his son was Glimli, the one who was a part of the Fellowship in Lord of the Rings.

[@mara25]

Dragons hoarding gold is actually an Old English motif. In Anglo-Saxon/Germanic culture, wealth was to be shared and not to be hoarded and the wealthiest/mightiest person used to be the ruler. Greed was something that was despised back then, which you can also see e.g. in Beowulf, one of Tolkien's favourite works and main source for his Middle-earth. The dragon in Beowulf also hoarded a pile of gold and it was actually a thief who stole a cup from him that woke him and made him destroy the nearest village. After that the thief and 12 companions went to the dragon's den to slay him - so a company of 13. Sound familiar? :)

[@dottzie33]

Lord of the Rings was just so amazingly epic when it came out (still is) and you could feel it was made with so much love and passion, I think the hobbit doesn’t quite have that feel, also it probably should have been 2 movies. It’s an amazing book though. Also after the travesty that was RoP it is definitely looked upon more fondly now from those who were not keen 😊

[@emoharalampiev1590]

Few months late, but there are quite some books Tolkien has written on Middle Earth. So the ones brought to movies they aren't even remotely the only ones. And yes Hobbit books were before LOTR, and while LOTR is quite a long book, the Hobbit is much shorter, so indeed some folks feel like too much padding was added, although I can't say I had issues with that.

[@harrisharris5100]

I was so ready for this! Great reaction as always! Love y’all fellas! Y’all help me get through the week watching yalls videos I’ve watched the Harry Potter series with y’all 2 times now 🤣

[@Romance_dream_]

yes! please do sherlock series after this..same actors.. brilliant performances..

[@cherylfoster1223]

I was a great reader in my youth and read all the books. I have seen all the movies and now that they are all out, I watch them in order starting with The Hobbit. Am stoked.

[@i.m.7710]

I love your reactions guys!!!!! For years I read the Hobbit and LOTR. I liked the Hobbit movies but there were a lot of things that weren’t in the book especially with the next two Hobbit movies. The movies had lots of fight scenes to make it more appealing to boys and men. I saw this movie the day it came out in Albuquerque, dec 14th, Sandy Hook tragedy.🥺🥺🥺🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@darthrevan1712]

The Dwarves and Elves are not quite enemies, but they are definitely not allies. In the first age (Dark Days), many of the Dwarves declared a suprise war on the Elves. They destroyed a whole outpost or kingdom or something, i'm not too familar. Since then, there has always been anger and mistrust between Elves and Dwarves. Obviously, not all Dwarven kingdoms took part in the attack as there are 7 Kingdoms of Dwarves, but since some of them did attack, it put a bad mark on their entire race. Then, when Erebor was under attack, Dale, the human kingdom next to them sounded the horns for help. One of the Elven Kingdoms, Mirkwood with King Thranduil, showed up to the attack but decided to retreat before fighting because he believed the Dwarves are greedy and are attacked by a Dragon that is greedy, so it was their own fault and not worth losing many Elves. So, naturally, this decision made all the Dwarves hate the entire Elven race because they assumed the Elves believe they are worth more than Dwarves and therefore cannot be trusted to aid in battle. And War is in a way, the best way to show honor and courage for the Dwarven race. They are like Sparta. They have a strong culture, but ultimately, their respect comes from deeds in battle. So, there is a lot of tension between Elves and Dwarves, but Orcs and Goblins are the #1 enemy for Elves and Dwarves, so that is why they end up working together in the end of the trilogy.

[@NovusIgnis]

My first reaction to the Hobbit? I cried right in the intro, from the first moment that I heard that music start up. I was just so ecstatic to be back in middle earth again, I had to quickly collect myself so I didn't miss anything else. Then I cried again when I saw Frodo happy and cheerful and whole again. It was tough man.

[@ericcarbone6382]

Gold has been prized by many ancient civilizations due it being a “cold” metal, it doesn’t heat up in your hand or under the sun like many others. Thats why it’s been used for jewelry since the pharaohs of Egypt. This is why dragons love gold, they’re such hot creatures it’s like a cooling bed for them.

[@Haplo-san]

11:45 Gandalf says that because it is known that hobbit maps showed Shire only and surrounding areas were not mapped. Because they never needed it and hobbitses did not have intentions to leave their homes and lands. So they did not care about outside of the Shire; hence "The world is not in your books and maps." emphasis on word "your". But nowadays the quote is mostly told to carry meaning as "it is okay to not read books" and praise hangout in the streets instead of reading books. It's ironic since the ones who don't read books misinterpret these lines. "He looked at maps, and wondered what lay beyond their edges: maps made in the Shire showed mostly white spaces beyond its borders." -Tolkien (1954), book I, chapter 2.

[@rosasutubechannel]

That head-butting thing has history to it. For some ridiculous reason it became a thing in the filming of The Lord of the rings for a big chunk of the cast, ( Vigo, Orlando, and others started it, when they were drunk) that they would headbutt butted every time they would see each other they would head but like hard like actually hurting each other. if you see it the extras of Lord of the rings, it's weird and hilarious. But it makes a lot more sense for the dwarves to do it. Lol

[@renee176]

I'm Thankful and Happy that they're less memes for these movies.😊 To understand the author's world and it's intricacies you guys may want to check out the books first hand.

[@laurettelaliberte8864]

Don't worry. This is only a mini-rant. There were a fair few characters from LotR that were not in the Hobbit, and some ridiculous contrivedd situations (ridiculous dwarf/Legolas love triangle, for example. That was something that the studio forced Peter Jackson to shove in the movie because apparently girls won't watch a straight adventure story. He had to scramble and do reshoots to cram it in there. Much as I don't mind looking at Orlando Bloom, his whole story arc didn't fit into this movie and it shows).The decision about where to end the second movie was kind of dumb, too. I don;t hate the river scene as much as some people seem to, and Smaug was well-done. I can only enjoy these if I mental divorce them from the book and pretend they are a separate entity.

[@blueacres1262]

I read The Hobbit aged 9, LOTR at 10 and The Trilogy from 11+. Loved it all, having a crazy life in South London in the 70's, it was a way out for me!! 🙂🍻 Fantastic watching my fellow Americans being infected with the JRRT bug is cool. 😉🍻🇬🇧🇺🇲

[@doc0815martens]

Hello you three, I've been a Tolkien fan and Middle Earth nerd all my life. Started with the Hobbit, then read Lord of the Rings and in the course of fantasy roleplay I bought a closet full of stuff. Mainly supplements and source books about the different races in Middle-earth. But until then everything was of course only in my imagination. There was a movie from the 80s, half with actors, half with cartoons, but it was absolutely not my cup of tea and so I watched it once and didn't enjoy it. Then the movies came out in the early 2000's and it wasn't exactly like the books, but just about as well as you can portray it in 3 movies and I was thrilled. So for me the LotR trilogy is a masterpiece of film history unlike any other. There are other films that are masterpieces, other film series with single movies that are really good, but just nothing as cohesive. When then The Hobbit came into the cinema, I was of course also immediately in the cinema (in each case on the opening day at night at 0.01 o'clock film start) and was likewise inspired, even if the trilogy is weaker than the LotR trilogy. Also, it is much freer and a lot of things were invented to it, some things were built in differently than I had in my previous understanding, but that was also the case with LotR, e.g. that Uruk-hai are not a cross between orcs and goblins (so weaker than orcs), but a cross between orcs and Beorningers (-> bear humans and thus physically stronger by far than simple orcs). Another deviation, in my opinion, is that Beorn is the last of his people in freedom. I may be wrong, but my understanding is that there are definitely still some around, several settlements, and that while they are hunted and pursued by the orcs, at war with them, they have not been exterminated or completely enslaved. But anyway, after I was in the cinema, I heard many people complaining that they were disappointed. But these probably had as an idea, it will be a LotR 2.0 and they will be just as excited as when they first dived into this whole world. So way too high expectations, so anything else can only be a disappointment. I, on the other hand, didn't have too high expectations and felt very entertained. The trilogy is not perfect, but it is very good, both in terms of craftsmanship and acting. So I am very much with you in liking this trilogy as well. LotR is easily a 5.0 for me as a trilogy and as individual films, while I would see The Hobbit as more like 4.5.

[@valerie263]

The byplay between y'all is awesome to watch. Loved the reaction.

[@onlycrazy7258]

I don't know if somebody said it already but a fan did ask Tolkien why the eagles didn't just fly the characters to where they needed to go and Tolkien went "shut up" 🤣 basically being like don't disrespect him and saying did you write the book and create a whole world with it ? 🤣