How To Choose The BEST BADMINTON RACKET For You - The 4 Step Framework

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IN THE VIDEO:
00:00 - How To Choose The Right Racket
00:34 - Step 1
1:02 - Step 2
6:36 - Step 3
9:01 - Step 4
9:27 - We Choose Our Own Rackets!
Giving you an insight into all things BADMINTON!

[@BadmintonInsight]

We hope you found this video 'insightful' 😆🏸 If you want to get any of the rackets we’ve shown in the video (including ours!), then head to geni.us/sakurasport - and don't forget to use our discount code ‘badmintoninsight’ to get 10% off your orders! And you might need to be fast, as they’re likely to sell out 🏃

[@pirategaming2938]

Plz help me with a racquet luv from India❤❤❤❤❤

[@Kianzyrelle]

Can you do pros vs amateour in thr Philippine north luzon pampanga on delta badminton center

[@Cap-co7bm]

I just started playing badminton again all because of you guys, keep it up 👏👏

[@BadmintonInsight]

Wow, that’s amazing to hear! 🥰🫶🏸

[@p0lqroid]

Amazing how closely my racket experiences matches you guys, bought the 90k first, then switched to thruster f, and bought the 90km a week ago, been fantastic so far!

[@BadmintonInsight]

Haha no way! Maybe we’re copying you 🤣 Hope you have many enjoyable times with it!

[@kevinwong8693]

If you are a beginner, it doesn't really matter which racket you buy but I'd suggest getting a light head racket. You need to build up that muscle memory and technique in delivering your shots and handling the shuttlecock. Once you feel that the racket is holding you back in developing your skills, then it's time to consider upgrading. I've always stuck with my Yonex rackets just because I've always gone with that brand. You can always just briefly borrow your friend's rackets for a quick test just to get the feeling. There's no perfect racket just off the shelf. I've always had it the other way round, at first a new racket will feel strange, but you always can adapt to it and just tweek your strings and tension. I'm using the Astrox 100zz and have the 1000z. The 1000z has always given me the power I needed, it's stiffer and slightly head heavier, but after two hours of playing, I do feel a bit worn out and I switch to the 100zz, which is slightly head lighter and glides through the air more swiftly which gives me the best balance in attack and defence. Again, my advice (been playing for maybe 20 years), test out rackets before you buy, then just tweek them a little with the tension and strings, the rest is adapting to it! And I play men's doubles 90% of the time btw!

[@technofete]

Out of all the videos I've seen this is one of the most helpful videos for beginners n infact even intermediate players like me. I got all the info shared here over a period of time by playing with multiple different ppl and styles by asking them lots of questions to improve myself

[@BadmintonInsight]

Ah thank you very much 😃

[@logic368]

Perfect timing for this video! I just smashed my racket last week!

[@notksn10]

Thank you for the video Greg and Jenny. Keep up the good work guys ❤❤

[@BadmintonInsight]

Thank you so much - we'll try our best 💪

[@dasnekysnek]

The graphics make everything clear! Great job guys

[@BadmintonInsight]

We're glad you liked them! Thanks 😀

[@flamepanther1977]

Well organized and produced video. Very informative. Thank you, Jenny and Greg!

[@BadmintonInsight]

Thank you very much 😃

[@EmilBoss4]

I was planning on buying a new racket tomorrow, perfect timing! Thanks!

[@BadmintonInsight]

Ah amazing - yes hope it helps you! 💪

[@slonski]

awesome framework visualisation. simple and clear!

[@BadmintonInsight]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for the comment 😀

[@user-km2pz6hj5o]

Wow! I was just searching for a new racket!! I love your videos guys

[@BadmintonInsight]

Ah no way - perfect timing! We hope this video is helpful for you 💪

[@user-km2pz6hj5o]

@@BadmintonInsight yep of course! Somehow all your videos cone out at the perfect time

[@michaelp9061]

Solid choice btw. You guys worked so hard and I look forward to seeing your next match.

[@Ericiscool123]

Very good advice👍👍

[@beermathuang3874]

Thank you for this video! Very very helpful!

[@BadmintonInsight]

Yay! Glad you found it helpful 😆💪🏼

[@henryromeo6914]

Greg and Jenny you both are the best. ❤ Thank you for such a detailed analysis. I can confidently get a racket of choice.

[@BadmintonInsight]

You’re welcome! We’re glad you enjoyed it 😀🏸

[@shanerpaderp4272]

I really enjoyed this video as it was super helpful, what a throwback to the original with a more in depth review 🙂

[@BadmintonInsight]

Ah thank you very much 😃

[@rainyee-pc5lf]

i was just thinking about the differences between these qualities and this is such a perfect video that explains them all! thank you guys!

[@BadmintonInsight]

Glad it was helpful! 🤩

[@ultimatebadmintonleague]

Very INSIGHTFUL video! 😊❤

[@BadmintonInsight]

Haha thank you very much 😀

[@spritz8022]

i found this video helpful! thx BadmintonInsight :)

[@BadmintonInsight]

Yay! Glad we could help 🙏🏼💥

[@jackburtonstwin]

This is a fascinating subject with a host of attached "urban myths" held by players at all levels. My own entirely subjective hot take on the matter, and an additional factor to those you quite right indicated in your video, is your age and experience as a player. To explain: my son and I both play(ed) at a fairly good level but, obviously, we are a generation apart. As a result the rackets we favor, and are most comfortable with, are also a generation apart. My son is the same age as Greg and favors modern racket designs with their generally lighter and finer racket construction allowing a high degree of manoeuvrability and racket head speed for those big smashes. My favorite racket comes from the early-noughties in the form of the Carlton Airblade 800 (Simon Archer's weapon of choice). It's far more "robust" in its construction, slower, very stable head shape, but not fast through the air so it needs to be swung like you mean it! When we swap rackets the results border on the comical as I find his rackets flimsy and like swing a breath of air, while my son finds my rackets akin to a scaffold plank with a string bed like a motorway divider. Anyway, the point of my ramble is that rackets have dramatically changed through the years and as players our style is, in some ways, governed and shaped by the equipment we are/were using.

[@ZeroSOFInfinity]

Was a user of TKFE before this, then changed to 88S Pro (2nd and 3rd Gens). Currently switched to 100X (TUC version), and 90K Metallic on the way. Can't wait to try it since Jenny likes it very much 😊

[@BadmintonInsight]

Wow you've tried a lot! Enjoy the 90K Metallic 😃

[@AXMIM]

Great explanation. I taugh I wouldn't learn anything in this one, but you managed to teach me two things I didn't know.

[@BadmintonInsight]

haha that's great to hear! 😃 Thank you for the comment!

[@jodydownes2271]

new to badminton love the video very helpful

[@BadmintonInsight]

Glad it was helpful! 💪🏼

[@aaronplayz9605]

Nice vid!

[@BadmintonInsight]

Thanks 😀🏸

[@a5h3r82]

Thanks Greg and Jenny!! :))

[@BadmintonInsight]

Welcome 🤩

[@p.tbadminton7630]

The best guid our there for someone who is confused on how to choose the perfect reaquet for them. Great work u both👍👍

[@BadmintonInsight]

Thank you! Glad it was helpful 😃

[@novad9564]

seeing you guys take time to reply to your subscribers despite your rough schedule makes me love you guys even more!😭

[@WNaessie]

Loved the video. With a new season ahead I had to choose a new racket. Now i'm more sure i'm getting the HS. Thanks!

[@BadmintonInsight]

Awesome choice! 👍🏼💪🏼

[@jellojay1156]

Great video!

[@BadmintonInsight]

Happy to hear you enjoyed it!

[@muhammadakmal9693]

I played badminton since 6 years of age and always use my father racket, and it was even balance 3UG5 till today I still use this racket but different tension and string

[@jonathanyeap5459]

Thank you !

[@BadmintonInsight]

You're very welcome 😀

[@sjprice80]

Great video and one I know I will share with badminton friends who are always looking for the best racket to buy. Perhaps a question for your next AMA, if not Victor, then which racket have you tried that you'd like to spend more time playing with?

[@Lone0809]

Hopefully the next video is the best warmups in badminton. Thank you for the guide badminton insight 🔥

[@BadmintonInsight]

We’ve already done a video for both on court and off court warm ups 😀

[@Lone0809]

​​@@BadmintonInsight Oh my bad, I will look for it. Thank you for telling me 👍

[@finalfan321]

i have put in an order for the the yonex 800 pro. the technologies have come so far that head lighter rackets come very close to head heavy ones without many trade offs

[@IgarashiDai]

I was talking about this exact topic with my colleague just the other day lol! Forwarded him the link 😊

[@BadmintonInsight]

Haha, awesome - thanks for sharing!!

[@fengcharlie3702]

I currently primarily use a ArcSaber 11 (not the pro) racquet and even though its 3U5, i take off the plastic wrap and make it only have the wooden handle. then I apply absorbant grap around it then the usual grap. it works well siince i have a smaller hand

[@stbskitz]

Just bought the Auraspeed HS Plus a few days ago and you guys watched this video today. Was having trouble finding any good reviews online as it was a new release. I can safely confirm that it’s a good racket for intermediate to advanced doubles play. It’s like a faster version of the Thruster F! So glad Greg chose it…

[@shamreazahmed8170]

Hi, I am also looking to get this racket too. Can I ask where you purchased it from? Also is this racket more stiff than the Thruster F??

[@stbskitz]

@@shamreazahmed8170 hi there, i’m based in Australia, got it from Pro Racquet Sports. It’s stiffer than the Thruster F. Also has way more power output due to the speed I get from it being on the headlight side. I’d say get it if you hit the sweetspot without any problems. If you mishit a lot, stick with the Thruster F.

[@BadmintonInsight]

Yes it's an awesome racket! Glad you're enjoying it too 🏸💪

[@kycubes42]

Another banger!

[@BadmintonInsight]

🤩 thanks!! Glad you enjoyed it

[@Mux0006]

Great video! As a traveling pair, how and if does having different rackets in the future change the way you pack and how many rackets you bring?

[@BadmintonInsight]

Thanks 😀 We always make sure we take enough to last us in the tournament and tournaments we’re playing in - usually between 6 and 8 and we pack them in our suitcases very carefully 😀🏸

[@lichbaw]

I use the Thruster Ryuga with VBS66N at 29x31 lbs it’s one of the best power racquets and it has made my power way better than any other racket im a attacking player in singles

[@BadmintonInsight]

Sounds like you've found the right racket for you 💪

[@mysterysamsamgoat]

Love ur vids:) first

[@amitchopra82]

you guys are absolutely awesome

[@AaronDuhsaka]

I really loved my Duora Z Strike But since it’s discontinued, can you suggest a racquet of the same caliber? (Same price range ; even balanced, yes from any manufacturer)

[@NIUNAIMIANBAO]

woah. finally swapping out the tf EE. i am quite surprise by the choices, i would like greg would choose the dx10 and jen choosing the hs plus

[@shadowhawk]

I'm loving my Auraspeed 100x but have been considering the HS Plus for a stiffer shaft for sharper control. However Im alittle worried about the smaller headframe as I hear that that means a smaller sweet spot. Size of the headframe or sweetspot isn't really covered in this video. I guess that might apply more to amateurs who may be not as consistent as pros.

[@pithaksmanratanastien3493]

❤ thank you 🙏

[@BadmintonInsight]

You're very welcome 😀

[@kamokiyoz]

Hi Greg and Jenny, I started playing badminton this year and I'm thinking of joining my high school badminton team next year. The issue is, I'm not sure where to start. Could you give me some recommendations for a racquet that suits my preferences? I prefer being in the rear, having a flexible and balanced racquet, and 5u weight. 🙏

[@laktho]

Great video! Even if I prefer one racket .. it might not suit all other players the same way. And I can only emphazise to test the rackets in a match for some time! IF you find the racket which suits you best: BUY 3 rackets more ;p I have 2 remaining 2019 babolat rackets left .. tried out some more .. but only in 2024 I found my next replacement for the 2019s because they run out of production. .. and its a pain if you MUST get a new one but you are still not satisfied with its handling

[@charithakodithuwakku1478]

I never had a victor racket currently have Yonex astrox 77 ( tried 88d 100zz from friends) Lining windstorm 78 ( had a windstorm 72 previously one of my favorites) and new addition of Kawasaki nehza 35 (not as popular as the others yet to try).would love to try a victor

[@Dango1337]

Thanks for the video! Though I do have some questions 😬 I would consider myself an intermediate level player, and I mostly play MD and XD. I've been using the Yonex Arcsaber11 (even balance) for a long time now as it fits my playstyle quite well. Though recently, I've been thinking of changing to a more head heavy racket to help improve my smash power, but I'm afraid that my defense may be compromised. I've tested some rackets, though the grips and tension weren't to my liking so I can't say for certain whether or not I like the feel of them yet. Do you have any advice for this situation? 😅 Thanks in advance!

[@miguelv2985]

Thanks for this video! I used a towel grip which makes the grip bigger. I think Greg uses a towel grip, correct? Any recommendations for a thinner version of a towel grip. @Jenny, are you really switching to the Auraspeed 90k Metallic?

[@BadmintonInsight]

Welcome! If you don't like the thickness of the towel grip then it might be best to change to a 'normal' grip... And yes I am haha! 😃

[@KirikaHiku]

Hi you guys, your videos have helped me a lot to improve my technique so my matches get better and better day by day. I see that the man (sorry I don't remember your name, honestly so sorry) had a time that used 90K and I really love it, I owned one but it's broken and I can't find a new one in my country, there's a successor 90K II but they aren't the same, the 90K has a longer grip (205mm) so its shaft is shorter than 90K II, had made it to be more maneuverable but still generate a decent power smash on back court. So I wanna asking you that is the 90K Metallic has the same length specs as 90K? Thank you so much, best wish for you and keep your health, looking for next videos.

[@devdanjilan8830]

Have you guys ever consider changing sponsors in order to try other racquets?, just asking keep up the good work you guys helped me a lot❤❤❤

[@arushna4444]

I missed the video just by an hour. 😢 But I bought my racket using ur old video🎉🎉

[@BadmintonInsight]

Haha, well we’re glad at least one of our videos could help you 😆

[@cubesetgo9839]

I use Victor Auraspeed 58 M but compared to the Astrox 99 pro it felt much better. Pls Review it! Nice Video🎉😊

[@KookaiPLZ]

I use the Yonex Astrox 99, which is really head heavy (singles player). I enjoy it a lot, but obviously I'm aware that it might get me bad habits if I keep using a racket that is perhaps bad for me. Do you know any signs that my choice of racket is incorrect?

[@R6ex]

Best racket guide I've seen thus far!

[@S2creatorr]

I am so envious. Victor rackets (perhaps all merchandise) are so difficult to find here in Japan. I loved my Victor Thruster F. Sadly though, it got a crack so I can't use it anymore.

[@balajemantravadi]

Excellent video ,I have all the rackets which are damn good, except 90k metallic which is not yet launched in my country, but you missed the amazing Racket Ryuga metallic LZJ ❤

[@yuu00077]

I’m going to have badminton training soon

[@Rxvlz]

Hey I’m new to this channel I’ve loved your tips and it really helped me win more games than I thought I would, but my physic is quite lacking and i really wanted to get better, could you make a video about a badminton workout unless there is already one Thanks, love from malaysia❤️🇲🇾

[@MrDoordude125]

I play an astrox 22 F which is actually 1 category lighter than 6U. I play an extremely fast paced drive game and never let anyone get away with net shots. I also warm up with the astrox 22 R which is the identical racket just 1 category lighter. Not sure if you guys don’t recommend warming up with a different racket as it could cause inconsistency? But it sure makes me feel lightning fast!

[@BadmintonInsight]

Lighter than 6U - wow, that is light!!

[@stepbro_brandon3200]

I first tried the 77 pro and found that it produced a lot of power but it wasnt doing well for doubles whenever i was in the front court. So when I switched to nanoray 600 which is a light head and very flexible racket, I found that I was able to produce more power in my drives and still maintain my power in my smashes. Then I tried the 90k II which is a light head but medium stiff racket and realized that it was a perfect fit for me.

[@BadmintonInsight]

Awesome to hear that you found the right racket for you 💪🏸

[@NIUNAIMIANBAO]

i am also hoping you guys can test out the new thruster F ultra when it comes out, thinnest shaft in the market. 5.8mm

[@hrishirajgogoi1018]

Can anyone please clarify which is a better racket between victor thruster k 7u and lining Axforce cannon.I m facing a great dilemma which one to buy.Greg and jinny please answer😢

[@user-qu4yn7hv4d]

Is the ArcSaber 11 play good for an intermediate attacking player. My string tension is 26*25

[@vaikashmonekambaram5080]

Thanks for another wonderful video. It was very clear and simple. I learned a lot about the stiffness of racquets. I have two racquets, Thruster F and Arcsaber 11 pro. The reason why I have two different types of racquets is funny 😂. I play for 1 to 1.5 hours every morning. I use Thruster F at the beginning and switch to AS 11 after 2 or three matches when the shoulder is not as strong as at the beginning 😅. I am looking to buy a head light racquet now to use when the shoulder becomes a lot weaker at the fag end of the session.

[@alrickdeguzman6542]

I was wondering if you could review a racket i've been using and its really matching my playstyle for singles. The racket is Babolat I-Pulse Blast, and it was a great one for me. If you could review I would love it.

[@user-gz1gm9zl6w]

Hi, is Sakura Sport a french company, is it too expensive to buy from france as there would be import duty and tax?

[@di2smash]

Hi. Can you make a thorough comparison between thruster f enhanced and the new hs plus please? Thank you

[@spectical1530]

Hi I have been watching your videos for a long time it would be nice to see a tutorial with doubles rotations and shots because I feel like I'm hitting shots my opponent would've got and I don't really understand the concept of splitting in doubles!

[@devastKink]

I've been using the Brave sword LYD for the last 10 years but only got 1 left. So of the strings break I have to change to another racquet. I just cannot find a similar one to the Lyd it seems

[@wanderlust1727]

Congratulations on your racket change from the favourite Victor Thruster F ED. Looks like @ckyew will be interviewing you soon at your next tournament.

[@beck3740]

After playing self-taught for 7 years I have found "my racket", slightly compact frame+even balance+4U+G6. Cheers

[@JUNAIDAHMED-zf6lr]

Is astrox 99 play a good racket?

[@gloriafellah3424]

Hi Grégoire or Jenny I wanted to ask how your Training racket is caled thanks you

[@user-jw4xk1qt5e]

Which grip do you both use please mention th model.

[@tommaxwell]

I play with a Nanoray 750, so very headlight because my defence wasn’t great and it’s medium flex which helps a recurring elbow issue I have. I used the steps guys went through years ago to figure out what to pick and I’ll have to do it again soon as they don’t make it anymore 😅

[@BadmintonInsight]

Oh no! Well hopefully this video helps you choose a new perfect racket for you 🏸

[@deltasrage97yt]

Very nice! I don’t use any of those rackets. I’m not sure about the name of any of my rackets. However, I gave both of my rackets nicknames. I enjoyed this video because you were making a huge RACQUET 😂😂 (Pun intended) ❤️

[@BadmintonInsight]

Haha 😆

[@deltasrage97yt]

@@BadmintonInsight 😂😅🤪 ❤️🏸

[@devinvanloopik3325]

Guys what rakcet should i buy im 13 now and planning on returning to badminton ive played from when i was 6 to when i was 11 i know the basic strategies and grips whats the best racket for me??

[@muhammadmalikibinmazzly-xf2oj]

does this goes to other brand rackets or only victor?

[@BadmintonInsight]

Yes, the framework will help you choose between all rackets 😊

[@Widnyanx27]

I saw you guys older vid of this vid few hours ago, and then i found this vid

[@BadmintonInsight]

Haha, hopefully this has more information (and updated)... And much better camera quality 😂

[@HEEHEEHEEHEEE]

I’ve been playing for 2 years, and I’ve use the yonex 9000X, so I am really used to stiff racquets😅

[@fredrik-c]

But I have already got to more rackets than arms, what should I do? Great video as always!

[@BadmintonInsight]

Haha! It’s always good to have a couple of back ups incase you break a string (or even worse… a frame!!)

[@eclipsesketches1839]

Hi Greg and Jenny, I just wanted to ask whether the HS Plus racquet has anything to do with Prannoy H.S joining Victor's sponsorship.

[@BadmintonInsight]

Nope just a cool coincidence - the HS stands for Hyper Sonic 😃

[@eclipsesketches1839]

Oh alright thank you 😅

[@dr.d.r.e.124]

Hi! I am 19 yrs old, becoming 20 next month. Is it too late to start badminton and then compete for higher league or even national level? Im giving time and putting effort in training and gonna put alot of them as well. I am also pretty fit but I'm not young. Is it too late to also develop skills necessary for so? Thanks

[@victornguyen6261]

How much of a difference did you guys feel between the 90k metallic and tkf enhanced?

[@cabigtingjonaline9552]

Hi I played Badminton yesterday it was fun and all and I did not know that it was a tournament and me and my partner won the tournament and it was fun when I used my practice racket accidentally

[@BadmintonInsight]

Congrats 🏆

[@avioree]

I also like the Thruster F racket, but I have a plan to replace it with either the Auraspeed HS Plus or the Auraspeed 90K Metallic. Between the two rackets, which one is more user-friendly

[@BadmintonInsight]

All of them are awesome rackets 🏸 We're not sure what you mean by 'user friendly'?

[@avioree]

@@BadmintonInsight is "I mean it's easier to use for beginners.

[@ilw10]

Hello, do you have a video on how to choose string?

[@nostake9245]

HS plus is definitely my new fav! Although 90k metallic is not bad either

[@BadmintonInsight]

Both are great 🏸

[@Anonymous_Pers0n]

This is informative but I still can't decide as there are so many rackets and so many brands. I prefer mizuno as yonex has outdated low quality tech, and its more cost effective than lining. You have any recommendations for mizuno?

[@BadmintonInsight]

We've not personally tried any Mizuno rackets, sorry!

[@ansonchungcheehaowmoe-vw8xv]

Badminton insight can you please review the victor auraspeed 9

[@_Nerds_inc]

You guys make amazing videos but I would like to ask a question. Do you know how to find the cheapest badminton courts to rent out?

[@BadmintonInsight]

Thanks! Hmmm difficult question - your best bet would be to ring a lot of venues to find out!

[@zairulazreenzainal9645]

Hi. Is it true Victor will launch Thruster F Enhanced Metallic soon?

[@rafaywho2278]

I was about to buy a racket and then saw ur video

[@BadmintonInsight]

Hopefully this helped you buy a good one! 😊

[@saanvinainwal752]

Please make video on recovering from bad form I have played after a month and it looks like I am complete beginner

[@MarcusChan-ed2bh]

How do I improve my speed(legs) in singles?

[@Uchiha-Madara_698]

im planning on buying a new racquet, the one i currently have is yonex nanoray 7000i, which is not bad but i think i would benefit more with head haeavy. i tried using my brother's racquet which is li-ning trubo x 50, which felt much better for my playing style. im not sure about the tension but i think around 25-28lbs would be good for me, grip size g4 or g5. can yall suggest a nice badminton racquet which would help me. i cant decide if im beginner or intermediate, but i think im okayish at playing and im able to play fairly good but i never went for any coaching or anything, just been playing with my friends. can yall suggest me some racquets. the budget is 2.5k inr (if i missed any details, pls ask me i can answer to it) thank you

[@Uchiha-Madara_698]

Btw I’m also a student who is 15 so not much goin to court n play n stuffs, so most of the time I play just down my house in a open place, don’t know if it will matter the racquet I choose, I’m also thinking of buying either lining g force super light max 10 or toned astrox series