BAJA 5B Gas Or Electric? You decide.

[@OfficialHPI]

A massive thank you to Kpop and Matt for a fantastic series of Baja content! Thank you to DDM, Castle Creations and Reef RC for supplying the components! Thank you to all you HPI Baja enthusiasts who love to Baja!

[@von...]

hey, I dont know if you guys watch fullsize car youtubers, but Cleetus McFarland started getting into RC cars. I would be beyond stoked to see you guys work together. If I was your social media manager, I would have been all over that the second I saw him getting into it. I know for a fact that the 1/5th scale stuff would blow his mind & that he would instantly start modding his RC cars to the absolute limit. I'd be quick, I think Traxxis is going to beat yall to it if you dont.

[@js64984]

I always wanted a baja and a year ago I got one and I love it! I’ve just bought loads of new parts including an OBR reed case engine can’t wait love the sound! Great video and great editing!

[@TastierBackInThe80s]

For everything else, electric. For 1/5th scale, has to be the gas version. I've driven both, but I prefer the animal of the internal combustion. And one day I will paint and decal my 5B to make it look like a 5th scale Ultima.

[@JThelen1031]

What an absolute beast of a buggy.

[@bradcarpenter1881]

Some of the most beautifully cinematic and edited rc content of all time ❤

[@P8FPV]

Agreed 👍

[@scalebuildersguild]

Gas is fun, but I blame Kpop for extreme hearing loss. So much fun to play with you sir, let's do it again soon!

[@coreymckenzie8945]

I have an original Baja ss and looking forward to hpi parts being available

[@BlindGuyRc]

It's so loud. And it's AWES9ME. Great video man.

[@jamesmorgan3115]

The sound of that pipe tightens up my shorts.

[@ashleyconnelley556]

Always my man. Done that first thing

[@DDMSteveB]

Another excellent video. The collab with SBG is a ton of fun and I hope it’s not the last!

[@Ryan-gf3jf]

Great Vid! All i can say is #2STROKEBABY!!!

[@djapothecary]

Another great video!!! Love the "braaapp" cheers to beers 🍻🍻

[@Horror-cow]

You really can't go wrong with gas or electric one. Both are amazing.

[@SmokeeFPV]

Quality edit! That is commitment shoving your nice camera into the dirt roost to catch those nice slo-mo donut close ups. I am so ordering a 5B Flux kit in the new year...

[@kpopRC]

thanks dude! much appreciated. yeah everything is covered in sand

[@JonnyJetson754]

He'll yeah brothers 🚗💨🚗💨

[@jasonbecker4997]

Never had a gasser but would love to try one. Back 30 years ago when I got into rc the gas cars were the big boy toys! Even though electric has caught up in performance, the gas engine just seems more fun.

[@murrijuana2842]

You're not missing much.

[@lgrc6120]

Sounds impressive 🍻

[@kyronrc]

Gas all day! Baja is such a great platform, theres nothing like it... The sound is just part of the experience, a adrenaline hit machine!

[@bobsrc9075]

another fantastic video, keep on rippin bud. 👊

[@DoubleClutchProductions]

Epic shots bro, my HPI Baja 5B will be here Tuesday👍😎

[@rjsv1000s]

I’d like to try the electric on 8S. On 6S it was easier to drive than the gasser.

[@bluegroovemodelsports9650]

Another great video. Very cool action shots .

[@bbeckers24]

I always wanted to get one of the Bajas...glad to see HPI working their way back into it. RS4 Super Nitro was one of my all time favorites.

[@js64984]

Definitely get the NOS kit!!! Im looking forward to the next 5th scale video!

[@jnick6]

great video man, im glad these machines have made a comeback. I have a mk1 HPI Baja if anybody is interested. barely ran on dirt, mostly asphalt. almost brand new. has been rebuilt from the ground up using genuine hpi parts. radio and two set of wheels included. as well as some carbon fibre enhancements that can be swapped out for the original plastics at any time. drop me a line if you or your subscribers are interested.

[@Octaviodeiques]

Plz more 5th scale content !!!

[@JIPPERR_1]

Hell ya i enjoyed this episode of kpop rc!

[@kpopRC]

thanks brother

[@blaccteezy]

Super high quality work man.

[@kpopRC]

much appreciated!

[@PachezZ]

As much as I love the gas sound for a short period, it would drive me crazy when it comes to longer bashing. Also it would drastically reduce places/times where/when I would fell comfortable driving it... so electric seems to be better choice.

[@anthonyromano6921]

Gas is awesome! I have a 5ive-T 2.0. It’s piped…….It’s obnoxiously loud, and I do worry about annoying the neighbors. If you get one keep the stock can exhaust.

[@hippo_reefer9322]

Bro! Y’all get all the money shots!!! Sick footage

[@onallfoursrc]

That thing is loud af! I love it! 😂

[@lahoozer6694]

I just picked up a fairly modified 30cc (I believe) 5T and have been dumping a bucket of cash into getting it tip top. I am currently waiting on a 60kg servo.

[@kpopRC]

that's the best. that's my reco every time. used, and rebuild. so much fun! and you'll need slightly less deep pockets.

[@lahoozer6694]

@@kpopRC First tank threw the 30cc obr (confirmed) yesterday. Great fun runs strong; Although with the roto start I broke one of the dogs off of the flywheel... Time for a lightened wheel, I contribute it to old age. 60kg servo was the right choice, Steering is tight with the tr servo saver and shimmed blocks. Shimmed arms, shimmed hubs also cotton/ca'd all the balls. Any suspension setup tips?

[@honeywoodhobby]

Killer film sir 👍👍 Loved the collab w/SBG!

[@88davidw]

Awesome video.

[@zqrc10gt]

Kpop id sware iv heard your voice on tv before. Im a new sub and love your content. Thanks to sbg and Harley for doing that build off. Keep it up!

[@toddmiddleton1442]

Awesomeness !!!

[@hans-josteinhglund5685]

Nice,is it a stock zenoah g320rc? Or a stock zenoah g290rc,or is the engines ported

[@TheInvisibleOrange26]

Got me a Baja 36cc gets here this week super exited I’m a nitro guy never had 1/5 gas

[@That1E_K1129]

The flex in the chassis looks CRAZY! SO SICK!!

[@kpopRC]

that was my fault. the chassis bolts back out.

[@Asur-slayer]

I wish i could afford to get one..Thank you for the video..cheers from India

[@forrestcrabbe]

Awesome🤘y'all have a badass day🤘🍻🤘

[@Sysiphos]

Oh man that is loud. I think I need to get SCX6 before a baja

[@AlldresZ1]

damn!! sound so good !! do you thinks that kind of pipe fit on my chainsaw?!?! O_o Good job on the video ! as always so professionnal ! kpoprc and nash as driver always give us some awesome video !! cheers boiz !

[@SY-qc1wv]

سبحان الله وبحمده سبحان الله العظيم❤❤

[@713Ace529]

I personally think both are fun just depends on who you are. Is what it boils down to. Do you want to hear the roar when you trigger or you not a gear head and just wanna go silent still enjoy the bashing. Mash looks like his sold on the electric lol.

[@OEF_OIFVET68]

Hell yeah.... Hit it with NOS!!!!!!

[@CavaleraForPrez]

Gas, no question 🤘

[@lukeh8392]

I was hoping for more of a pro's and con's approach, this mainly focussed on the gas one. I love my original SS but might the the electric too as the driving styles are so different. Electric is great for the instant torque and more usable as it doesn't pi** ppl off with the noise :)

[@kpopRC]

this is a coming live stream.

[@kingkongrc247]

Gas all day electric like watching a movie with subtitles but at the end of the day to each his own I love the hobby regardless👍

[@sakisSAVAGER]

I prefere gas baja than electric !!! I need to hear it...

[@P8FPV]

Epic video huge shout out to all 😁🤙Sick

[@reefsrc]

Great job, now I’m more confused on which to get 😊

[@Pablo_exe]

id love to know the weight difference between them. fully stocked, with full tank and batteries on. also great vid as always

[@kpopRC]

sbg and i will do a live stream to round out the series

[@aaron8891]

Gotta go with gas, it's just the cool factor. I'll be the first to say it though, if it was a little quieter it would be much better 😆

[@thatoneguy2756]

There are plenty of tuned pipes that aren't obnoxious like the one in this video. In Almost all 5th scale competition, racers use modded can mufflers even with high hp engines.

[@kpopRC]

yeah we don't usually run pipes. some say the Zenoah doesn't benefit from an expansion chamber.

[@Mr450pro]

Love the smell. Hate noise and lack of power compared to electric..

[@PhilBender612]

What's an HPI BAJA SBK? like, specifically the SBK part? lol These 5th scales should be Gas and Gas only IMO. I have a Losi 5t and its loud as a MF!

[@allthingsmotorized1885]

sbk stands for self build kit

[@giuniral]

Protect your ears, please. I lost my hearing in the left side. The sound goes away, but the ringing stays. 😵 The video is a feast for the eyes, though. Beautiful cars and footage as always. Cheers

[@meudrone4k369]

Chique carros baja gasolina ⛽ e eletrônico 🏎💥💨🥰😃✌🏼👍🏻👏🏻📽👀🦾

[@seanwilson9117]

I do think the flight guys are just built different. lol

[@cjchannel12RC]

Cool video of HPI Baja's, I was looking looking at the electric version for my collection but i'm sure if i would be able to afford to build it. But it's still cool to see these large scale machines ripping i might do a Baja someday if they will still be sold and have parts support.

[@kpopRC]

dude, go and find one used. and know you can buy cheap hpi parts for it. If you're on a budget go find the "wife wants it gone" special.

[@HansZarkovPhD]

Do they make something like this in 4x4?

[@mlord692]

Well.. ya crazy bastard, it took me long enough but after this vid I subbed. I've been on the fringes of the yt rc comm. and my bro thegridnack has talked about you for like 2+ years.. I am wanting a gas rc and I think I may try one of the baja 5b after seeing this. If you have any suggestions for a better gas rc please by all means drop that comment and link below. I appreciate y'all and all the sic content, love this rc stuff, truly been a life saver for me. Thegridnack is my lil bro, he smart cookie.. I'm just the basher older bro. he's the technical one that tells me which next victim to get.. Good times with rc's as always!!!

[@kpopRC]

YES! glad to have you bro! Better, is a hard word. hard to define when comparing. If you want a loud stinky rc car, that is stout and is kind of it's own driving experience, then yeah BAJA 5b. But there are other options out there, there's the Losi 5ive T, The kraken Vesla, The losi dbxl, the MCD line of fifthscale, and a few im sure i am missing. The gas engines are no fuss. They start even if tuned badly, and once dialed you don't need to touch them ever. It's pretty great. If you want quiet and more throttle modulation, go electric. It's a different beast. all together. hope that helps. probably gave you more questions than answers, but that's how you know you're on the right path.

[@VintageCR]

10:55 that opinion is based on your personal opinion :) and you are entitled to have one! my personal opinion is that a Baja came with a real combustion 2 stroke engine, its the OG, no one should put an electric motor in a Baja, that's suicide. at the end of the day.. i don't really care as long as it's not my baja😂😂

[@kpopRC]

try one. there is something VERY different about no clutch engagement. the gas bajas to go slow in racing you had to hit the engagment point with your throttle in slow bursts and you get the HP at that rpm no matter what. there is zero power modulation under 5000rpm. The electric versions of these cars are faster around the track because of this alone. I get it brap brap and all. i have 5 gass bajas. But i don't pretend there is only one way a baja should run. to me that kind of mentality ruins the hobby. again just my opinion.

[@joshchatwin8569]

2 stroke for the smell and sound but for straight up speed electric

[@paulmcnamara16]

Awesome footage there buddy even though I'm really not into gas and nitro really loved watching this! Keep up the good work and posted new pics on Facebook of my 1/8 Landrover and 1/8 Sand Scorcher for SAS on your next TCT buddy! 😉👌

[@jessietidwell8828]

what is the price tag on this car

[@brentrobinson3274]

Might check out rb innovation for the belt driven supercharger kit also to note they do sell a nitrous kit as well

[@kpopRC]

never been a fan of anything RB releases. mostly damaging products.

[@edekmito]

How did the zen 32 perform with a pipe ? You can't really tell from the video? Do you need all the extra torque the 32 can deliver?

[@kpopRC]

no the pipe is not needed. I dont see much difference in torque. I'd say a 5t can exhaust is the better option.

[@kpopRC]

i should also mention. the weight of this buggy, you could go with a 23cc like they came stock with v1 and have very enjoyable power. i think the most noticeable difference with the bigger dissplacment, is low end grunt. at 5000rpm on the grey clutch spring, the car could easily loose traction with a blip of the throttle. it's fun for bashing. but terrible for power modulation for racing. i'd say keep the 32cc on the 4wd cars, they need all the power they can get.

[@mattster197]

OMG I love that you are using a Hitec Lynx 4s. I have not seen anyone but me using it except Adam Drake for a while when sponsored. That thing is awesome. You can totally tell the engine/pipe is not stock. nor the servo. Electric is wimpy whiney poo.

[@kpopRC]

great radio. also, the proton 4 receiver has gps speed and rpm input. just sayin.

[@mattster197]

@@kpopRC and temperature sensor! I use it on my Jato

[@paulmcnamara16]

You've certainly put a squeeze on Matt's finances from now on dude! 😁👍

[@kpopRC]

HAHA! nah. he's doing just fine.

[@ferrari8359]

Gas🌹👍👌⛽

[@gregvalen279]

I need a battery for 1 of these!! Can't find online anywhere

[@kpopRC]

ddmracing.com

[@BadWallaby]

hey just curious what the 18650s are for on your radio? :) good place to keep them haha

[@kpopRC]

they power my radio. got tired of the stock nimh dying and i have like hundreds of them. 2 of those last a few months.

[@BadWallaby]

@@kpopRC OOO Great idea! Might have to switch over mine as well since vaping has led me to acquire "spare" 18650s haha Thanks Dude!

[@robbryan3044]

If they had released a nitro version, instead of gas, electric would have been the instant winner. However, for this 'gas vs electric' debate, my answer is "six of one, and a half-dozen of the other". I luv my electrics - simplicity, ease of maintenance, reliability, etc - but, at the same time, I've REALLY been wanting a gas (NOT nitro) RC again. When I got back into RC approx a little over a dozen years ago (after a 35+ year absence), I started with helicopters, then drones, then cars & trucks (bashing & racing), and finally boats. Since being back into RC, all I've run is electric. However...this is most important...when I first got into RC back in the mid-70s, what I started with was gas. It wasn't quite 'hobby' grade, but it was definitely above 'toy' grade (besides, what gas RC would truly be considered 'toy' grade). In comparing the advantages of each, this is how I see it: ELECTRIC - quieter - can run in more locations - more "streamlined" appearance (ie. no huge pipe hanging off the side) - more balanced (again, having to do with the pipe on the side) - more reliable - has 'reverse' GAS - REALLY been wanting a gas vehicle...especially a large-scale gas RC - longer runtime - "excitement" factor - attention-getting (this could also be a disadvantage, depending on 'whose' attention it's getting) Obviously, the advantages of 'electric' far outweigh the 'gas'...but, the "longer runtime" advantage of gas is a fairly 'powerful' one. To be honest, I'm really "on the fence" with this one. I do want to get an HPI Baja 5B SBK (been interested since the moment I found out about the release)...but, I can't decide which. Living in the SF Bay Area, the electric would have probably been the smarter way to go, and I was just short of getting one...but, having moved to the Las Vegas area a couple weeks, the gas version is "back on the table" (yeah, just had to borrow that phase from Matt). The desert around Vegas is perfect for this vehicle (and MUCH better than the Bay Area would have ever been), no matter which is chosen. It'll probably be at another couple months before I purchase...and, I am 99% certain I will be getting one...but, I could REALLY use input from others on 'which'. Side note: I also posted (albeit, a shorter version) in the comments of SBG's video.

[@kpopRC]

very thorough for sure. I think it was more of a click bait argument. there is no right answer. BUT.... I think if you got gas you'd regret it., the electric is good with everyone around every time. The gas will cause you issues with sound. Although the Gas version is heavier, it's very well balanced, the pipe doesn't weigh enough to make any noticeable difference, and we always recommend using the 5t can exhaust, that is tucked away behind the engine and doesn't stick out at all and is also probably 80db quieter than what we're hitting here. The big issue with electric, is puffed batteries even after proper maintenance. these bats aren't cheap.

[@robbryan3044]

@@kpopRC Don't mean to call your reply "funny"...but, in a way, it sorta-kinda is. You start by suggesting I'd be better off with the electric version (ie. I think if you got the gas you'd regret it)...but, the rest of your reply, essentially, extols advantages of the gas version. Regarding the exhaust pipe, I assume you're referring to the Losi part number LOSR8020? If it's (a lot) quieter than the exhaust you were running in the video, that should/would resolve the majority of the "noise problem". The only thing I'd really be missing with gas is 'reverse' (it's nice to be able to go backwards when needed)...but, at the same time, having 30+ minute runtimes is a HUGE benefit. Regarding batteries "puffing", that's something I'm familiar with. I currently have at least 30 batteries (from 2S to 6S, from low 'C' rated batteries for crawling, to super-high (ie. 150-200C) for racing boats & NPRC drag cars), and poor maintenance (my own fault) had caused some packs (long gone) to have puffed in the past. As long as they are well-maintained, discharged to "storage level" within 48hrs (I try to do it within 24hrs) if not used, and cycled (fully charged, then discharged to them charged back to "storage level") every few months if not used, there's usually no reason for them to 'puff', or go bad, prematurely...unless, of course, they are low quality packs.

[@martinbradbury5920]

I would love to have a 1/5 scale buggy. But thay are way out of my price range. But thay are cool

[@frankmaze1972]

No drag race?

[@williamslakescaleoffroad4986]

NOS for the win

[@kpopRC]

right?

[@mattyboyson604]

love them both but def electric for me.

[@Lussuosoclothing]

So many memories 😢

[@stephancobb13]

whats the biggest motor u can put in both of them?

[@kpopRC]

i think there are a few 50cc ones, and there are a few twin cylinder 29cc builds too. If you cant get the power down, why bother.

[@stephancobb13]

@@kpopRC what do you have in yours? and how much does the 50cc n 29cc cost?

[@timbuzick8778]

always gas

[@Nate-oh1wg]

RC bros gotta stick together. Especially the 1/5 boys. Shits dying off. Try best to support the good brands, they’re small, niche, and fragile. We’ve been blessed with another run of bajas. 🍻

[@kpopRC]

hell yeah brother.

[@nursinggerm2009]

Who is the artist singing that 'blue moon' song?

[@kpopRC]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gn_LnI1vq8ylbtU

[@carlbModels]

Electric all the way for me. Brilliant filming, loved it. Gas has too many issues and way too much NOISE. Now I like ICE, but low revving V8's from the 1960's, not farty sounding singles, sorry! 👍🍺🇬🇧

[@primaryenginesinc]

Try the vp 50/50 m1/nitro put 2 stroke oil tho.

[@primaryenginesinc]

And up the fuel a lot.

[@davidbronson2883]

How many bros do we gotta get together before we can have ddm sponsor prizes at an event? Maybe hpi sponsor? We need a forum an oval track or full track or should we start by getting a brap day going? I really feel its only a matter of time before somebody gets a baja class race going again

[@kpopRC]

agreed! it's a matter of time. waves and waves of bajas are being sold.

[@bluegroovemodelsports9650]

Gas no question Gas all the way.

[@briandicosmo3843]

Gas all day long. I need the sound and smoke. The smell and the grime the grit and the nastiness.

[@mattmaclearn263]

I’m torn between this and the kraken vesla 5

[@kpopRC]

maybe wait. see how the vesla does. don't get the first run. and watch and read reviews. The baja is very tested the vesla is new. BUT, the vesla looks sweet ass! so, i say vesla, but wait just till the second batch.

[@crfsikness]

Hit up rb innovations for an rc nitrous kit the moab is for 5th scale if they still make it

[@kpopRC]

nope. that company sells smoke and mirrors. After inheriting some of their parts in a sale, i'll never spend money on that company.

[@despizedicon]

Its cool for a few minutes, then I'll remember I can drive a real car. Much more fun.

[@kpopRC]

there are A LOT of things you can do with these, you'd NEVER do with a real car. that make it MUCH more fun and less expensive to boot.

[@ashleyconnelley556]

I’m just gonna need to know what this is gonna cost me 😊

[@kpopRC]

ALL in the gass one is cheaper. id say in the neighborhood of 1200.

[@JDHitchman]

I can't think of a single reason why I would buy a nitro powered RC.

[@kpopRC]

this is gasoline not nitro. very, very different.

[@broll4436]

Not 1st pull 🍋

[@mattyboyson604]

Do you show any electric or is it all Gas ?

[@kpopRC]

electric side of this video is on SBG channel, it' in the description.

[@metal4lifetime]

How can we decide if you only show the gas version of it 🥴

[@kpopRC]

sbg is late with his video. should be up today

[@hebertmarc1914]

Gas ftw loll

[@Ivebeenhad]

There are far far more ‘never gas’ RC guys, than ‘never electric’ RC guys. I’ve passed 50 cars a long time ago, 1st car was a Tamiya Frog, and still never even driven a gas car. Every time I’ve watched these guys, they spend half their time starting tuning mixing fuel maintaining them, all without reverse. I don’t get it, is that the fun part?

[@kpopRC]

this is gasoline. this is not nitro. Gasoline we start and drive. Most fifthscale guys start the engine out of the box and go full throttle for 45 min a tank for gallons. don't confuse this with nitro. very different.

[@dennis8019]

that pipe is way way to loud.. put a olimat in it. oh and 1/5th scale is petrol. the rest is electric.

[@kpopRC]

yeah we run 5t cans with need for any weirder power bands. That's my reco every time.

[@dustinpoor2286]

Geesh... can't even get into the video every time start to rip it an actually show it getting it... they start talking... show diff pic... take the sound away... cut the video off... like not any part of that video actually shows it running an shifting.... like 2 short clips of it in reverse... not very enjoyable.... at least I commented on it for ya I guess