Baldur's Gate 3 - Wyll - NEW Evil Ending - Patch 7 - Larian Studios

[@Kazuliski]

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[@ShadowmarkReturns]

Wow they really hate that tan lady with the ponytail lol. She's at the forefront of every one of these evil ending cutscenes and always dies in a horrific way

[@gamingwsmiles]

I honestly want to make her my next Tav

[@Polomance862]

In the good ending, she's also the hero to save the tiefling child. It's to highlight how your actions impact heroes and innocence alike. The tan woman is just the depiction of the world to come from your actions.

[@ShadowmarkReturns]

@@Polomance862 ik, just teasing

[@domocan6877]

My one issue with Wyll’s ending is that he doesn’t kill or mind control Mizora as payback for all she’s taken from him

[@NaN-Gram]

The issue is if he does that, he becomes a Lemure. Also she just respawns in the hells since she’s a Cambion, so it’s all bad.

[@xxdiamond_godxx5012]

That's my issue too. Even with his best ending(Blade of Avernus), he doesn't get revenge on Mizora. I hate how Larian won't let us off that demonic pain in the neck. And the only time we do get a chance to do it, it ends up being the wrong choice. Someone at Larian really has a thing for Mizora....

[@xxdiamond_godxx5012]

​@@NaN-GramThere's gotta be a way around that. I know this sounds harsh but that just seems like a convenient excuse to give Mizora plot armor she doesn't need or deserve.

[@NaN-Gram]

@@xxdiamond_godxx5012 Larian forgot to write themselves out of the hole the put Wyll into, unfortunately. The Blade of Frontiers deserved better.

[@xxdiamond_godxx5012]

@@NaN-Gram Yeah Wyll was definitely done wrong and neglected by writing in a lot of ways. Honestly, I think if they had stuck to their guns and kept him the way he was during EA then there wouldn't be any issues. But guess what? "He's too mean!" Fans didn't like the idea of him being morally grey and thought he was too mean. Kinda odd since Astarion is absolutely loved for being an evil and insufferable jackass(I hate Astarion, if you couldn't tell). Its really a shame since Wyll really isn't a bad character and certainly not as bad as fans try and make him out to be. He just got done dirty by the writers and fans. This was one instance where Larian should have just put their foot down and they didn't.

[@joaovitorreginattodasilva8840]

Fuck, this might be my favorite one of these new evil endings. I love this archetype of the selfless hero who just gets tired of feeling like his good deeds don't amount to nothing and decides that results matter more than methods.

[@PoetryInMotionXxXx]

Exactly, and it might as well have been the key to Wyll regaining his freedom from the devilish pact in the end, IMO. Throughout the game, it felt like Mizora's ultimate aim was to convince Wyll to put himself above his father and innocents, the opposite of which was what got him to become an indentured servant to fiends in the first place. Devils enjoy corrupting mortal souls every bit as much as collecting them.

[@mauser98kar]

Evil Wyll is an absolute nightmare. Despite his sudden spurt of megalomania, of all other origin characters, he is by far the most rational. No self-aggrandasing, vengeful brutality or other forms of pettiness. Order above all else for the sake of it. Wyll brings the hammer on your face with efficiency unseen among his peers. Why slaughter when you can ceratomorph them? Why waste when you can gather? He'll have greater army in no time - and then, good luck and good night, Faerun and beyond.

[@erxs]

and he looks hot as hell doing it!!

[@Peachrocks5]

Maybe it does but Wyll’s evil ending should depend on whether or not he broke the pact. If he’s loyal to Mizora he should basically conclude that she was right all along. Helping people is basically pointless, unending and most people just take you for granted. Mizora would release him from his current pact in favour of a new one, that his powers as well as the crown of Karsus would be used to allow the pair of them to rule Avernus and beyond in place of Zariel. Basically what Raphael was planning to do. Alternatively going against Mizora results in him capturing her (we know the Absolute is capable of this) and using her to his own ends against her will. He would rule similar to this ending, concluding that without a forceful hand people would constantly need saving, without firm control and an iron fist people would always get away with evil. Kind of like the old thing of good intentions going bad.

[@KeitieKalopsia]

There were a lot of companions I expected to have two different Absolute endings for: Shadowheart, Wyll, Astarion, and Lae’zel. Makes sense resource-wise that you can only add so many new cutscenes.

[@Slendermaster968]

I wanted to see Mizore in a dog leash for his ending.

[@thecousinbellic]

Gortash would be proud of you Wyll. Gortash would be proud.

[@dianabialaskahansen2972]

Wish there had been a more devilish ending. Wyll drawing on the power of Hell, transforming into a full devil, transforming the citizens of Baldurs Gate, creating some devilflayers, calling in Mizora and have her bow to him and then he is on his way to the Nine Hells with his new powerful army to depose one of the Archdevils. And have his romanced companion rule at his side as his spouse, or if he had no romance, let him have the option of making Mizora his wife.

[@KeitieKalopsia]

I feel like that’s the only way this ending could’ve been improved. If he’d gone full devil and/or been more obviously romantically involved with Mizora.

[@JadedReality21]

Wyll's ending is the only ending in which the root of his turmoil isn't mentioned in any capacity....why? Mizora has no words of dialogue. She shows up if you are still contracted to her, but she disappears in literally under 10 seconds, as if she was never in the scene. That's gotta be a bug, right? And if you are not bound to her anymore, she doesn't show up at all, when there is arguably MORE reason to go after her since he would suffer no repercussions for it. One of Wyll's goals as "Blade of Avernus" was to hunt her down....why doesn't this ending give you the option to take that angle??? Everyone else flat out rebels against their abusers, violently lashes out, or seeks to be better than they ever were, but Wyll still has no choice in the matter. Doesn't even consider it. Wyll just succumbs everyone to ceremorphosis and has a mindflayer army because *reasons* , I guess? No word of sending them unto Zariel's army or anything. Just a vaguely defined goal, if you can even call it that. "The Blade." "The Blade".....what? What is his purpose here? Everyone else dominates the world as well, but there is *purpose* to it in accordance with the source of their turmoil, as I have said before. Maybe I'm just daft, but I don't see how this ending can be considered an evil resolution to Wyll's character arc when the source of his struggle isn't even acknowledged.

[@MinecraftRick]

It's an evil resolution to his arc in the same sense as Shadowheart becoming the Mother Superior, Astarion "ascending", Lae'zel staying loyal, Gale achieving divinity, Karlach dying. He surrenders to his struggle and becomes it instead of fighting it. He becomes that which he sought to destroy. He was abused by a devil, and instead of hunting the devil, he becomes the devil.

[@JadedReality21]

@@MinecraftRick Yes, but that pain is acknowledged in all of those instances. What is highlighted here, in *this* ending, is Wyll being in his father's shadow, and uses the absolute's power to forgo that insecurity by being the undisputed ruler. There is zero mention of the devil nor the devil's influence and there really is no reason for it to be like this when every other evil origin ending mentions their abusers directly. And devils are known to be opportunists, so while I understand it's meant to be symbolic and not literal, I don't buy the "become the devil" angle either, because we spend 3 entire acts trying to break Wyll free from Mizora. He is the absolute now. If the entire angle is to become the thing he hated, I still don't see why Mizora *wouldn't* be one of his first victims, you get what I'm saying? It's just not a devil's nature to ignore a golden opportunity like that, especially since he doesn't hesitate to make his father a victim. Which is why I don't think that was the angle they were taking. They took the insecure prince angle and left the Hells completely out of it, which is a baffling mistake. Even though Mizora is here, she nowhere to be seen a minute later, almost as if it's a bug or she was added last minute. This is easily remedied if they just had the narrator say something along the lines of "What matters now is that they do kneel - let the 'why' be for lesser men.....and lesser devils..." while showing Mizora reluctantly beside Ulder Ravengard (if you broke the pact and should you choose to hunt her down). On the flipside, have Mizora open a portal for the Hells army (similar to Karlach) while Wyll turns his people into Mindflayers should you side with her still. TL;DR, Mizora is like half of Wyll's story, the other half being his father. It's just deflating to know that one half of Wyll's story doesn't see a proper resolution. So as a result this ending feels half-baked.

[@aceofsharks9837]

You're absolutely right. Everyone, even the devs apparently, undersell the fact that Mizora is Wyll's abuser. His evil ending should've involved using the army of The Absolute to invade the hells to ice Mizora and keep anymore hellspawn from harming the material plane.

[@MinecraftRick]

@@aceofsharks9837 Doesn't sound very evil.

[@JadedReality21]

@@aceofsharks9837 That's not quite where I was taking my point at all. At least not as you describe it towards the end there. The Material Plane is not safe. Should the Hells intrude in that space, Wyll wouldn't *defend* it, per se. He would sacrifice as much of that plane as necessary to see the devils dead (should the player choose the Hells as their enemy), which would make the final line, "For the city, for the Coast, there will be something approaching peace. But first. The Blade." more focused, instead of pointing his army toward some arbitrary enemy like it's done here. In the same way Zariel would drag as much of the Hells into her Blood War as utterly possible, Wyll would spare no expense for his own crusade. Whether that would be with Mizora or against Mizora would be up to the player. That's ultimately how I envisioned the evil ending would play out. What we got was annoyingly vague. Almost dismissive in a way.

[@LunaMizuki8806]

Blade Of The Absolute

[@Hekk.]

"There will be peace... But first, the blade" >_>

[@azel7056]

And here i thought Wyll couldnt hurt a single fly, but a great ending

[@merkoid5195]

I think that Larian should add making Mizora into Wyll’s queen a choice.

[@KeitieKalopsia]

That would be kinda cute actually. Aww

[@erxs]

​@@KeitieKalopsia she textbook groomed him man leave the poor guy alone

[@roarytheromanarcanine]

I wonder how this cutscene plays out if Wyll rejects binding his soul to Mizora for his father’s sake. He should, by rights, be free of her.

[@PoetryInMotionXxXx]

It would be even more interesting if Mizora released him from his pact after this ending. The way I perceived it, her original intention behind her offer to Wyll was to "help" him move away from this "selfless folk hero" posturing and, instead, embrace his true potential as a ruthless ruler (potential, in the sense devils view it, at least).

[@noctoi]

Oooh WYLL!!! I didn't know you had it in you!! Have to admit though, this is VERY fitting for Wyll. I could see this happening, and it actually makes me want to play his Origin Story for an evil run.

[@istvancsap3513]

GO FOR IT, Wyll :D:D

[@lishiesteinsnightclub8770]

It's hard to see wyll "evil" giving how much of a good guy he is in the entire game

[@devidevil888]

Wyll evil ending? What does he jaywalk or something

[@KeitieKalopsia]

HAHAHHA LMAO

[@delboopin6960]

Will say I genuinely don’t get his personal ending. Like… the dialogue sounds like it’s a more “big brother” version of the normal Conquest choice… but then he goes and turns everyone into mindflayers. At first I thought it was going the route of him giving a non-forceful “Kneel” and those who disobeyed would be turned, but then it’s everyone being turned. Is “But first… The Blade” supposed to mean he judged the whole of Baldur’s Gate as unworthy or guilty in some way? If that’s the case they really should have thrown in a line mentioning something like because they bent to Gortash and other unworthy leaders, they are all condemned in his eye, Idk, this feels very weak compared to what everyone else got. Also WHY is Mizora allowed to stand there freely? I get you can romance her even as Wyll so the cinematic can’t do a 180 and have him vaporize her, but surely you can show some psionic domination effect. If you’re gonna have Wyll, who as a Companion is the most Lawful Good boi there is, go full evil let him take SOME kind of vengeance/control over Mizora.

[@trash1170]

Devil contracts are a bitch. He cannot harm her in anyway, if he does then he becomes a literal flesh sludge in avernus

[@smokebreakproductions8510]

Should have totally had him do a Raphael ending where mizora is the slave and he going to rule over hell

[@DangeruNoodles]

Wyll's Nightmares this is the stuff Wyll Dreams about and wakes up in a cold sweet

[@879SCSP]

I don't really like that some of the other characters get who dialogue in their endings but Wyll gets the generic evil ending with some light Wyll flavored seasoning

[@katieedwards6444]

"let the 'why' be for lessor men", why wyll? why?

[@MyViolador]

why Y ?

[@Salt-Upon-Woundss]

Feel like this version of Wyll would take Mizora as his waifu

[@xxdiamond_godxx5012]

He'd probably have a whole Harem of Demon women with Mizora as the main woman. And now my fanfiction senses are going off because of that idea.

[@KeitieKalopsia]

@@xxdiamond_godxx5012 Go on go on go on

[@Papyllon]

@@xxdiamond_godxx5012 Why only women? ;)

[@bakeasnake4555]

I actually really like this. Roleplaying Wyll as a fallen hero rather than the good guy he's supposed to be.

[@natathetata1648]

“Let the ‘why’ be for lesser men” oh so he’s just Wll now?

[@DelilahUnknown]

Disappointing because I feel like his pact should be pretty involved. Mizora took so much from him, even possibly killing his father. Just feels like an oversight

[@matianakin]

what if duke ravenguard is dead? or if he broke the pact? or if he wasnt the blade anymore but the duke?

[@SomeGuy71700]

I personally find this ending kinda... meh? Nothing about it screams Wyll. I can't imagine this is something an evil Wyll would do. It's not clear what his motivations here even are. To rule the sword coast without being the shadow of his father? I guess he accomplished that? He sorta just... tortured some dudes while sitting in a throne. Mizora is somehow free of his everything. What I got from Wyll's story is he wasn't to be free, he wants to be his own person, he wants to be in control of his life and dictate how he is thought of by others. I feel like if he turned evil, he would be more focused on the one holding his leash rather than his father. He no longer needs her power to be powerful. He should turn her into his bitch instead and then fuck up the Sword Coast and his father for rejecting him when he sacraficed everything for everyone. Idk, but Wyll's evil ending just... don't feel like Wyll.

[@iedawahato]

It's basically a warmed over version of the Tav ending with some flavor dialogue. Absolutely trash.

[@surelylune]

does the ending change based on if he broke his pact with mizora? cos if not. thats lame as shit

[@bdink2605]

Ugh why is Mizora there? Can we ever just get him as the star if his own story without her there 😒

[@MyrtleWhite-y4r]

Beatty Junction

[@CindyGunnels-w3n]

D'Amore Gateway

[@Prince_Smugarina]

On a cinematic level, its perhaps the most bland of the 7, but utilizes deeper meanings and that famous adage. "You either die a hero, or live long enough to be the villain."

[@KnowOne111]

Not truly evil if Karlach is still alive smh

[@elliottstokes3917]

No mizora in this?

[@HughSummers-m6d]

Spinka Vista

[@alligatoraidan]

Ah yes, the Unbreakable Wyll of the Netherbrain

[@daviddj5655]

в принципе все герои во всех финалах делают одно и тоже по специфике конечно. по мне это халтура. и странно что они все злые с чего бы.

[@XentorAntarix]

I know not, whtich end I think is yuckier.

[@spino4313]

Lmao, a boring fuck up until the end

[@xxdiamond_godxx5012]

Wow. No one cares. You Wyll haters never have any good reason to say this stuff. Even with a new evil ending, you still wanna gripe.

[@97BlueFlame]

@@xxdiamond_godxx5012it’s not about hating Wyll it’s about how underwhelming and out of character his ending is. His character wasn’t written well enough to have any motivation for the evil ending that he does have and he has such a short story compared to every other companion. Nothing wrong with addressing it, compared to literally every other character it is boring

[@xxdiamond_godxx5012]

​@@97BlueFlame Pick up a dictionary and learn what boring means. Because you and every other Wyll hater that uses that word clearly doesn't know what it means and are just using it as an excuse to gripe. Y'all are the reason Wyll got neglected so much in terms of writing and content. He's only "boring" because it's your fault for not letting Larian keep his EA version because you thought he was too mean/morally grey. Yet you love Astarion for that same reason. Y'all ain't beating the racist allegations, that's for sure....

[@kozhcaelum8495]

​@@97BlueFlame while I agree with your point, the way that person worded it is.... definitely not good ("lmao a boring fuck up").

[@97BlueFlame]

@@xxdiamond_godxx5012 Im Black you fucking moron. No a Black character having shitty writing doesn't mean racist it means it can be objective and not tokenize like some online discord white knight. I also like EA Wyll better and think that would be a much better character to work with, but I never gave negative backlash on that character because he was actually interesting and had complex writing compared to golden boy over here. Not too big of an Astarion myself but can't deny his writing is interesting even if I don't love the character Stop belittling Black people as absolved from all criticism and maybe you'll have a decent life instead of trying to moral grandstand some shit you know nothing about and assigning archetypes to people who disagree with something as simple as "Hmm this character is boring".

[@justin_short90]

It’s a shame that he has the lowest amount of content out of the main companions and I wonder why..🫤

[@Kazuliski]

His character was changed quite alot during development. It's bugged but this is the original Mizora and Wyll kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKqng39mjd2Lr6c

[@justin_short90]

@@Kazuliski yea I know that part but it could also be of some unconscious racial bias at Larian studios

[@smokebreakproductions8510]

Probably

[@Nazinsky]

@@justin_short90 i agree, i feel like it's racial bias and people not liking him as much probably includes him being "too good" but also him being black

[@gkkk2735]

You realize they changed the character based on fan feedback right? It's not a race thing lmao​@@justin_short90