Viewers of this video may also find my two part CLP showdown video helpful. Thanks for watching! kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2HdZKCPhdKnY5Y kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZWmpKmNaNqemZo
@nickfreeland19447 жыл бұрын
357magdad Great informative video; I enjoyed seeing the results. Which version of HOPPES NO.9 were you using in this video? Reference - HOPPES NO.9 SOLVENT, HOPPES GUN BORE CLEANER...
@dylancrouch2732 жыл бұрын
Solid work. This is why I love KZbin
@davevabch7 жыл бұрын
I have used both for years, but always come back to Ballistol. This test was done in just 5 min. However Ballistol will do great when set for longer time. Ballistol will also be a better lubricant, more of a all in one. Plus the fact that it is NON toxic. I use Ballistol mixture with water in my Ultrasonci cleaners with great results. Plus it will give a light coating of oil to the parts I cannot reach. I have Firearms I have had for years, some stored for decades with nothing but Ballistol and they look like new. A big Bonus is that Ballistol is fantastic for Wood Stocks. Thanks for the review. I knew when you only went 5 min. the results would not be as good for the Ballistol as would have a longer time. Love Ballistol for just about every thing.
@stephenmaurer70086 жыл бұрын
I keep a small rags treated with ballistol so I can wipe down the weapon (lock. stock and barrel) after inspection.
@dewaynewhite29285 жыл бұрын
A lot of retailers are finding out about the ballistol where I live because of the non toxic factors it's hard to find here, that would be my deal breaker for ballistol because of the non toxic thing!! That's the more reason I would support this product!!
@gbh19133 жыл бұрын
Hoppes is a better cleaner than ballistol. I think using lubricants like CLP , hoppes black, Pro shot zero frictionor Wilson combat. Are all better lubricants than ballistol.
@Physics0723 жыл бұрын
Ive used both for many years but use Hoppes 9 for cleaning borers ballistol for my PCP air guns. Nothing beats that Hoppes smell either vs old socks smell of balistol. For an all in one you can do worse balistol is decent but not as good a cleaner than hoppes.
@MrRhandyman303 жыл бұрын
Hickok45 says Ballistol. Thats all I needed to hear. After a few times cleaning with it, my weapons seems to just wipe clean after use. Mostly shoot dirty steel because of price and have had no issues getting things nice and shiny 😎
@357magdad3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I became interested in Ballistol because of Hickok45!
@Mark-uq9km3 жыл бұрын
I agree Ballistol is good and so are other cleaners, but please realize Mr. Hickok is getting paid to pitch the Ballistol product. Federal does the same thing. I don't care one whit for Federal ammo. They would have to pay me to use their ammunition, just like they do Hickok.45.
@carlosmoya22613 жыл бұрын
Ballistol is simply the best. 💪🏼
@SG-hh9lu6 ай бұрын
What does Hickok45 know, he was a school teacher his whole life and if you shot as much as him you would be an excellent shot, everything he shows on his channel he gets paid for just like he thinks Glocks are the best handguns
@SG-hh9lu6 ай бұрын
You must be a real fool he had to spray the ballistol twice and he also used a better brush for the ballistol
@epicoutdoor57955 жыл бұрын
"It was so much fun, I needed to do a second line of that powder..." Only on a guns channel this will mean something else :)
@edrickmonestime3467 Жыл бұрын
It was so much fun, I needed to do a second line of that powder
@Rude420Boi7 жыл бұрын
I guess I’ll go with Hoppe’s for cleaning and Ballistol for final touches and oiling!
@HK-qj4im6 жыл бұрын
That is exactly my thought. I shoot lots of Lead 22lr in my Revolver. Leading builds up. Hoppes cleans it. Ballistol treats it.. I do think its getting easier to clean. Maybe its a mental trick...but I will keep doing it. I would never give up HOPES
@JS-te4gz5 жыл бұрын
Obviously a potent solvent will work better then a non toxic oil
@John5.565 жыл бұрын
Ballistol also works better the more you use it. It kind of seasons the metal like a cast iron skillet after being well seasoned, and everything is much easier to clean and just wipe away.
@JulianA-tr6pt4 жыл бұрын
@Blueskies They're just repeating something that hickock45 often says, almost verbatim. Not that it's wrong, necessarily.
@Jefe5154 жыл бұрын
Considering Ballistol is non toxic, it needs time to soak and penetrate as you saw by the second application of Ballistol; which gave the same results
@boakyeduan5632 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing this comparison. Although it might not be as professional as some mentioned, it's still the best this guy can show to people who has used neither one like me. Thank you again.
@357magdad2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jameshayes37136 жыл бұрын
Plus Ballistol is mineral based, so it is almost like an "all natural alternative" as far as gun cleaners go. That's the real win for me
@stoneblue17952 жыл бұрын
I like to hear dolphins and baby whales screaming in the night. I gotta have something with more of a nice chemical smell and feel. No, I don't drive no 'lectric car either.
@stephenmaurer70086 жыл бұрын
The key to Ballistol is to continually use of this product... cleanings become much easier over time. If your bore has heavy copper/lead fouling... wet it down with Ballistol and brush/patch out the fouling. Plus, Ballistol has hundreds of uses such as fogging an outboard motor or cleaning battery terminals.
@357magdad6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! You may be interested in my "Will CLP season Metal" video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYPRdqCnYq5ppsU
@MrCervuselaphus8 жыл бұрын
One of those good little productions that all add to my knowledge base. Thanks.
@Rumpole10006 жыл бұрын
German army wanted an all-round type product that could clean and lubricate to save soldiers having to use multiple liquids. In the late 1800's, the Klever company based in Cologne Germany patented Ballistol, literally meaning 'Ballistic Oil'. German army said, "This is the shit we need" and from 1905 - 1945 it was found in every German soldiers cleaning kit.
@MrTangent5 жыл бұрын
Rumpole Del Bailey Do you know what they (German military) used after 1945? I’m curious.
@Rumpole10004 жыл бұрын
@@MrTangent No idea mate. Probably in the short term they used a US or Soviet equivalent. I would not be surprised if the German army of today uses Ballistol though. I was in the Australian army for 10 years and I'm almost certain thats what we used. Same smell and texture.
@drstrangelove49984 жыл бұрын
That’s enough for me.
@sK413x_883 жыл бұрын
For the US Army was Gunex from Ballistol created
@stoneblue17952 жыл бұрын
Yet they lost the war.
@selaxlife76217 жыл бұрын
usually when u do one line, u will normally want to do another one.....
@mytquin76055 жыл бұрын
lol
@Jefe5154 жыл бұрын
Lmao, that is cor-rect
@bobbydoll34764 жыл бұрын
lmao
@admiraltroll52553 жыл бұрын
Love me some bougar sugar
@isaactrujillo763 жыл бұрын
When you do two, you have to do three. When you do three, then you gotta smoke some on some foil!
@pagamenews8 жыл бұрын
Ballistol is a jack of all trades and a master of none. When I want to do a really, really good job of cleaning, lubricating and rust proofing my guns, I use 3 separate liquids that are good at each specific task. But when I go to my hunting camp or just want to quickly clean or lube a gun, I use the Ballistol because it's the most expedient means of getting things done.
@JFizoust8 жыл бұрын
pagamenews Well put. Now I can acquire a new product (Ballistol) and not feel guilty for having so much Hoppes, REM Oil etc.
@leighaustin53667 жыл бұрын
pagamenews i
@mikebernard98406 жыл бұрын
Can you pls provide the names of those 3 liquids
@JC-fj7oo6 жыл бұрын
The nice thing about ballistol is that it doesn't hurt other things. One time I tried using "break free breach cleaner, no need to disassemble your gun" and the first spray into the breech got it all over the stock and melted the lacquer off. Now I use Hoppes for cleaning the bore and ballistol for everything else.
@Physics0723 жыл бұрын
@@mikebernard9840 Hoppes for bores followed by mineral oil for lube or hopes oil which is the same thing. One shot for semi autos shotgun.
@MrJkfamilyguy596 жыл бұрын
Hoppes # 9 is a true solvent where as Ballestol is more of a lubercant with some cleaning properties which treats the metal and soaks into the metal pores. Over repeated Ballestol applications it builds up and reduces friction and makes your gun much easier to clean because it puts a wall between the gun metal and contamination.
@357magdad6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I have had several viewers comment that CLP will "season" the metal making it easier to clean (like a cast iron pan). I plan on testing this - stay tuned!
@357magdad6 жыл бұрын
Check out my video where I test several CLPs' ability to "season" the steel plate. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYPRdqCnYq5ppsU
@smiller99806 жыл бұрын
Steel does not have "pores".
@DaDaDo6616 жыл бұрын
It absolutely does. More like grains it's there
@pipebear70366 жыл бұрын
@@smiller9980 You maybe interested in this peer reviewed paper in the Journal of Materials Science (February 1992, Volume 27, Issue 4, pp 853-862) on pore formation in cast metals and alloys. Strangely, pore formation can prevent corrosion in some cases (see Corrosion Science Volume 40, Issues 4-5, April-May 1998, Pages 547-556).
@barneylinet6602 Жыл бұрын
This is a well done experiment, Thanks for posting, and thanks for the people who commented here. All good stuff!!!!
@357magdad Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@whiplash31638 жыл бұрын
That was a good and fair test.
@snappingturtle408 жыл бұрын
Great review. Ballistol can clean like Hoppes, but takes more time to do so. But since Ballistol is also a lubricant, it can be considered an acceptable compromise. My only surprise is that lead is supposed to be more difficult to remove than copper.
@AverageReviewsYT7 жыл бұрын
Ballistol doesn't do nearly as good as hoppes I let my 50 rounds shot through guns it in ballistol for a hour and it took off maybe 20% aka the loose stuff... So after scrubbing for another hour I used hoppes and in 10 mins the other 80% was white qtip clean...
@tjmooremusic6 жыл бұрын
snappingturtle40 Hi, I ran about 150 rounds through my Henry 357 and like never before I've had a terrible problem getting the copper out. I don't want to just keep scrubbing with more Hoppi's. I'm using Ballistol and on day 4 still getting green Patches.... Any suggestions??
@JS-te4gz5 жыл бұрын
@@tjmooremusic Hoppes copper solvent
@John5.565 жыл бұрын
@@AverageReviewsYT If you only shot 50 rounds your gun is still clean lmao. No reason it should have taken more than 5 minutes to just wipe down real quick unless you're special 😂
@John5.565 жыл бұрын
@@tjmooremusic I suggest watching iv8888 he has some helpful tips on cleaning fouling, black powder etc.
@TherealBigJohnSt33l4 жыл бұрын
Googled and, found this gem! Explained very nicely. Well done 👍🏽
@357magdad4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chrismoody13426 жыл бұрын
If I could I’d wear Hoppes #9 as my cologne. The smell of 45 years of gun memories.
@357magdad6 жыл бұрын
You can still buy Hoppes #9 air fresheners on e-bay!
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always used one part Hoppe’s and one part Kroil, one of the best smells in the world. I also use Ballistol for wiping down and protecting, it smells pretty gross but the Hoppe’s/Kroil smell luckily overpowers it, haha!
@bisakov3 жыл бұрын
yep... Balistol (while doing a good job) doesn't smell "right"
@Grizzleback076 жыл бұрын
1:19 That moment when the pyro comes out in all of us. 😁
@chinchillaintheheat26417 жыл бұрын
the nice thing about ballistic is you can leave it to soak without having to worry too much.
@justinhateswasps58166 жыл бұрын
I always have both of those products. I mostly use Hoppe's 9 on cleaning my guns, but on a lazy day I use Ballistol. Ballistol has many home uses and cleaning uses as well.
@TS1207-g9y4 жыл бұрын
"it was so much fun I had to do a second line of that powder" What are we talking about here? haha
@stchman8 жыл бұрын
Difference between an actual solvent(Hoppe's #9) and a CLP(Ballistol). Hoppe's is going to do a better job as a solvent, but poor job as a lubricant.
@HFSswfl8 жыл бұрын
stchman exactly and the ballistol with a little more time and elbow grease was just as good... swear by the stuff
@stchman8 жыл бұрын
Nah, I have them both and Ballistol doesn't clean worth a shit compared to Hoppe's #9. Ballitsol is a good quickie CLP, but that's about it.
@John_NJDM8 жыл бұрын
Agreed, hoppes works better faster. But with Ballistol, it seems you get the same results with just a little bit of soak time, and you eliminated exposing yourself to all the toxins in the Hoppes.
@stchman8 жыл бұрын
Don't drink Hoppe's. Not to mention Ballistol stinks horribly.
@wyattchinn11238 жыл бұрын
You don't have to drink Hoppe's for it to cause damage to your body. Don't like the smell of Ballistol? Breathe through your mouth when you use it. Any other questions?
@tomfile31313 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.....thanks for the video.
@357magdad3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I have a playlist of all of my CLP tests!
@MrDoeboy3563 жыл бұрын
I used that same quote In high school. ( it was so fun I needed to do another line. )
@Ricopolico4 жыл бұрын
Very well done. Thanks.
@357magdad4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@abdullahanwaar738911 ай бұрын
Is it safe to handle non jacketed lead bullets? Or reloading at home?
@357magdad11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I would suggest that you do your own research and make your own decisions about what is safe for you.
@Andrew-kk2ry7 ай бұрын
I liked this as soon as you did a second line of powder.
@357magdad7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@choppermike33292 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison Magdad. I know I'm late on this one , just checking out more of your vids.👍🏻😎
@357magdad2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chopper Mike! I think this is my most viewed video!
@gorbalsboy Жыл бұрын
Grand stuff big chap, have just bought some ballistol here in the Scottish land(aye, we dae haff gunnes) aw ra best fae sunny Troon 😊
@357magdad Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Check out my latest CLP showdown: kzbin.info/www/bejne/annJmGardp1sqpo
@jamescarter41755 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Very informative.
@gshock30924 жыл бұрын
Both are nice to have!
@stillcreepytruepatriot66527 жыл бұрын
I dont know about you folks but I use hoppes for cleaning the barrels , Ballastol for everything else except when I want a some what thicker lubricant and for that I use CLP Break free. This is all about Wisdom. The only way you can get that is to gather knowledge combined with the experience that comes to you as you walk the path. Would also recommend TW25B grease BY Mil-comm for battle rifle bolt carrier groups. It all depends on the job.
@stillcreepytruepatriot66527 жыл бұрын
spray contact cleaner is great for a pre-cleaning of ones battle rifles to get all the major grime off before you go into the detailing. It all depends on where you are at and where you want to end up.
@theplinkerslodge63613 жыл бұрын
Great share, thanks.
@357magdad3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@wayartio3 жыл бұрын
outstanding demonstration!
@357magdad3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jr109 жыл бұрын
Nice review
@eugenelayton52315 жыл бұрын
It's hard to imagine that 3-in-1 will do a great job in all 3 areas. I use solvent to clean, NOT to lubricate. I use oil to lubricate, NOT to break down residue. Each person has their own way of cleaning a weapon. As for me, I will stick with Hoppes and a lubricant such as LSA.
@357magdad5 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong with Hoppes #9!
@MimeswithRhymes6 жыл бұрын
Orscheln Farm stores sell hypodermic needles and syringes for vaccinating livestock. They’re what I use for handling all of my solvents except Ballistol. They don’t last forever but a three pack only costs a few dollars and I don’t feel like I’m getting cancer every time I clean my bores.
@grumpyoldphart73257 жыл бұрын
Great video, job well done!
@tracyjohnson21213 жыл бұрын
Lol, it was so much fun, I had to do a second burn of that powder! Thank you for this video!!
@357magdad3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Tracy! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@mauricesmith42704 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a well known gun smith for years in the state of Connecticut working with all the top three gun manufacturers in the state he only used hoppes no 9 products above all the rest He said it's the only tried and aprovid by gun smiths and gun manufacturers I my self been using hoppes for over 60 years tried the rest But didn't find one that even came close in cleaning and lubercaion only Hoppes proved its worth enough said
@xyzsing40386 жыл бұрын
Hoppe's No. 9 Gun Bore Cleaner, - is this the one you used. It says to use on bore? What do i then use on slides and inside of the pistol?
@357magdad6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Original Hoppes #9 is a powder solvent. It will dissolve burnt powder in the barrel and inside the slide. For the rest of the firearm, I would recommend a CLP like WD-40, Breakfree, Lucas, etc. There are some good semi-auto handgun cleaning videos on KZbin you can watch.
@PatriotPaulUSA5 жыл бұрын
I don't get what is so hard to understand. Hoppe's is an excellent solvent /cleaner! Ballistol (which I have never used) sounds like a mix of cleaner/lube like a shampoo/conditioner yes it does 2 things but isn't as good of a cleaner nor is Hoppe's a good lubricant! I have used Hoppe's for decades followed by my favorite lube. So Simple. I believe they make a special copper remover now if that is a concern. Most of us never shoot enough for any of this to be a really giant thing to keep our guns from working but I like to know what is the best like most people. I love the lube tests but most lubes will probably work as long as we put the lube on ! Ha. I use the heaviest of my favorite synthetic motor oil that I have used for decades in my cars and engines and have seen the "protection" or lack of wear it provides. A gun has many times less RPM's and therefore less wear than steel and aluminum car engine internals. Schaeffer's Synthetic Motor Oils for me. Its pretty green too in my Amazon Needle type squeeze bottle.
@357magdad5 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong with Hoppes #9!
@shield4005 жыл бұрын
I use Ballistol to clean the outside of weapons and Hoppes #9 Synthetic Blend for the barrel.
@357magdad5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good strategy!
@grizzlycountry10304 жыл бұрын
Hoppes clean your gun once. Ballistol clean your gun twice.
@MrTangent3 жыл бұрын
Hoppes oh shit I have cancer. Ballistol look at my beautifully lubed gun, wood stock, leather sheath AND hands.
@somethingorother37422 жыл бұрын
"in fact it was so much fun i decided to do a second line of that powder"
@charlespena23456 жыл бұрын
It was so much fun I decided I need to do a second line of that powder.
@stevenrichards36997 жыл бұрын
Buying gun solvents is a racket ! A mixture of 50% low odor kerosene(also known as lamp oil),and 50% automatic transmission fluid works as good as anything I have ever used,and I have been a gun guy ,champion revolver shooter ,and heavy target shooter for 51 years . ! Just be sure to wipe down everything ,and then blast it dry with an air hose (safety glasses please) Then follow up by lubricating all parts with Mobil one full synthetic motor oil (0w40w) It works MINT ,and a quart of low odor kerosene ,a quart of mobile one,and a quart of ATF will cost about $12,and will last for hundreds of cleanings . !
@357magdad7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment. I will try your formula - stay tuned!
@357magdad7 жыл бұрын
I just uploaded a video comparing your homemade solvent to Hoppes No 9. Check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJysfH1ngb6Yprs
@glenndavis27626 жыл бұрын
....over the course of 51 years nearly $16 has been saved!
@andresc59152 жыл бұрын
Ballistol is really nice because it may not work immediately, but if you put enough, it can just flush a lot of that gunk out.
@PatrickParsonWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
So, after this test, do you use Balistol?
@357magdad3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I've pretty much settled on Hoppes #9 for the bore and cylinder and any CLP for the rest of the revolver.
@rkba49238 жыл бұрын
I don't think either of these products are engineered to remove copper.
@357magdad8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The Ballistol label reads "dissolves traces of copper" The Hoppes 9 label reads "removes leading and metal fouling" I have tried the same test with Hoppe's Bench Rest Copper remover and it also would not remove the copped I put on the plate with the bullet.
@rkba49232 жыл бұрын
@@carolinausedmachinery I just use Windex. But you have to be careful with it too and not leave it in bore too long.
@rkba49232 жыл бұрын
@@357magdad Yea, just because the label says something doesn't mean the product was "engineered" for that purpose. But, I hear ya.
@whilburn2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this :). You sold me!
@357magdad Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Check out my more recent CLP showdown: kzbin.info/www/bejne/annJmGardp1sqpo
@whilburn2 Жыл бұрын
@@357magdad I just watched…. Very clever and a good clinical approach to testing. Costs aside, hoppes9 is the better solvent.. you did raise some good questions regarding the preservation products. Mark novak uses some interesting but simple approaches in his preservation and conservation videos.. even non detergent motor oil as a lube. He uses wax ring wax as a preservative on some old military style gun wood finishes. I do know that some of the oils are so light that they either evaporate or just dry away. Thanks!
@cw5865 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo as I have drawn into the cleaner debate and although don't fear the copper. Looking for the best cleaner and with the Ballistol making me stoner than a sailor on shore leave, I may use it outside and the Hoppes like i have for decades...
@357magdad Жыл бұрын
Clenzoil and mil-spec Break Free also performed well in my tests with a better smell. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHTEgKCNntiEZrs kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5jZhmqqopWorsU
@cw5865 Жыл бұрын
@@357magdad thanks
@MrBanditz286 жыл бұрын
Great information , thank you sir
@357magdad6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@allenbournes46972 жыл бұрын
Well done.
@357magdad2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Allen!
@brejaimecastillo88514 жыл бұрын
Great comparison on apples to apples thank you.
@357magdad4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@sshady72723 жыл бұрын
Interesting test, thank you for taking the time to make the video...
@357magdad3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Shane!
@nicholaosskiadas90832 жыл бұрын
Why did you compare a plain cleaner to a clp? What's the meaning?
@357magdad2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The "C" in CLP is for "clean". I wanted to see if Ballistol was as effective as a dedicated powder solvent. Many shooters claim that Ballistol is a "do-it-all" product that eliminates the need for solvent.
@greglaroche17536 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks.
@Kuultyc4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this experiment. Looks like I'm buying both now? lol
@humbleoutdoorsman68174 жыл бұрын
Great video. Down to business an to the point just the video I was looking for 💯
@357magdad4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you like the video!
@misterlewgee8874 Жыл бұрын
Interesting...I was looking at ballstol to help prevent powder fouling
@357magdad Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Check out my latest CLP Showdown: kzbin.info/www/bejne/annJmGardp1sqpo
@mattd71357 жыл бұрын
Hoppes and 3 in 1. all you need
@scooter59402 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I've always used Hoppes, followed by gun oil and gun grease (on the rails). Just picked up some Ballistol and will give that a try. Seems like Hoppes is a more aggressive cleaner, but I clean my guns every couple of trips to the range, or every time, so probably don't need it - and maybe the lubrication part of the Ballistol will be a plus in areas I don't specifically oil.
@357magdad2 жыл бұрын
It seems like Ballistol has a love it or hate it odor. If you end up hating it, check out my reviews of Clenzoil and MIL-SPEC Break Free.
@yupyup42092 жыл бұрын
Hoppes #9 for cleaning metal. Birchwood Casey gun oil for lubricating. Ballistol for wood and finish or an all-in-one if needed.
@Mark-uq9km3 жыл бұрын
Otis used to make a bore cleaner that worked better than either Ballistol or Hoppe's on copper fouling. For some reason it has been discontinued from manufacture and cannot find out why. Anyone else know the story about Otis products?
@VIV_12712 жыл бұрын
I know this is old, but I’m wondering how similar the brass case used in the test to replicate removing copper.
@357magdad2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Jim! I used a copper jacketed bullet, not a brass case. I did a review of Hoppes Bench Rest Copper Remover: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJSXZ3iPhrlpqpo
@altheliterate5 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, but the aroma of Hoppes!
@357magdad5 жыл бұрын
You can actually but Hoppes air fresheners!
@alexejnemov5 жыл бұрын
Modern smokeless powder burns slow compared to black powder, so when a cartridge is fired the smokeless will continue to burn accelerating the bullet as long as it's in the barrel while black powder can be compared to how a breake barrel pellet gun fires, it burns much faster and little is left for futher acceleration of the bullet.
@alexandercalder21434 жыл бұрын
Is the Hoppes the gun bore solvent, or their oil?
@357magdad4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Hoppes #9 is a solvent.
@pipebear70366 жыл бұрын
I agree with pagamenews. I tend to use Ballistol as a general CLP on my centre fire weapons and Hoppe's for more detailed cleaning. That said, Ballistol is very good for cleaning Black powder weapons. I enjoyed the video and like your scientific approach to this topic
@357magdad6 жыл бұрын
More like "Hillbilly Scientific" approach LOL.
@pipebear70366 жыл бұрын
@@357magdad Yep! :-)
@gokhanaksoylu233 жыл бұрын
im cleaning gun with wd40 and lubricating with ballistol universal oil. Am i doin right ?
@357magdad3 жыл бұрын
If you have Ballistol, it is really all you need for cleaning and lubrication.
@simplyrise9306 жыл бұрын
I'm also surprised the gunpowder burn so slow. Thanks for the upload bro👍
@357magdad6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Try searching for black powder vs smokeless powder - the difference in how they burn is amazing!
@MakaveliThaDonKilluminati5 жыл бұрын
theres no compression thats why it burns slow
@RobertWard-sb6bd10 ай бұрын
It's a much different animal when ignited in a sealed environment. Interestingly enough black powder Burns much quicker in the open atmosphere
@tfknauss5 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
@357magdad5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Todd! I think this is my most viewed video!
@5prohunter6 жыл бұрын
Thankyou very much for this. 👍
@357magdad6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MPGunther16 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your test
@357magdad6 жыл бұрын
Thank you and thanks for watching!
@GetTonedFitness4 жыл бұрын
aerosol concentration vs oil concentration?
@Smokie10133 жыл бұрын
Ballistol is great. Didn’t like the smell at first but you get used to it after a while. Lol
@nocknload52876 жыл бұрын
Hoppes 9 solvent does what its designed to do. The best bore cleaner on the market.
@357magdad6 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong with Hoppes!
@215ILLicit8 жыл бұрын
Is it old school hoppes or synthetic?
@357magdad8 жыл бұрын
Standard #9, not synthetic. Thanks for watching!
@215ILLicit8 жыл бұрын
357magdad heard that craps really toxic. I never knew. Thanks. Been trying new cleaners. Will be sticking with hoppes.
@wyattchinn11238 жыл бұрын
Why stick with a toxic product like Hoppe's? Do you play with mercury? Drink Drano?
@NRAdude7 жыл бұрын
Hoppes is not toxic. The most "toxic" component in the mixture is kerosene. You can stick your hand in kerosene all day and it will do nothing to you. That's why the entire mixture is rated on the MSDS as a health hazard: 1 which is the lowest. I work with chemicals everyday that are much more toxic than anything in Hoppes. Dichloromethane and N,N-dimethylformamide are both health hazard:2 and I get those on my hands also sometimes. The only way it would harm you is by huffing the fumes out of the bottle (thereby asphyxiating yourself) or drinking it.
@Garyvi19647 жыл бұрын
Good job!!
@aeiounix8 жыл бұрын
I liked this very much. Just watched a video review of balistol where it was said that it is a mild product. This is a clear distinction between the two products. Except for testing the other qualities of the balistol such as lubrication and protectant, which wouldn't be fair at all to compare in that manner though.
@lawrencehawk51792 жыл бұрын
For the first time I bought and tried Hoppe's Gun Bore Cleaner. Seemed to work, see what happens after a while of use. Got it in an 2oz bottle.
@357magdad2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to go wrong with Hoppes #9!
@lawrencehawk51792 жыл бұрын
@@357magdad & you proven that, keep it up Oil Guy Tester.
@segarza5 жыл бұрын
I use hoppes #9 for solvent and ballistol for the rest.
@357magdad5 жыл бұрын
Not a bad way to go!
@rickdavis474010 ай бұрын
I use Hoppes 9 to clean & Ballistol to protect. For lubricating moving parts, nothing beats LSA
@357magdad10 ай бұрын
That would work.
@BrewCityRider3 жыл бұрын
Both great products, but the Hoppe's is just better for bore cleaning because it is specifically made for that. Ballistol and other quality CLP's for everything else. I just happen to use G96 instead of Ballistol.
@357magdad3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Check out my recent review of Clenzoil! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHTEgKCNntiEZrs
@SAVAGE308SNIPER6 жыл бұрын
You did more lines than I ever did of cocaine.
@SAVAGE308SNIPER4 жыл бұрын
@Topspeed350 Speed...good name...did that too...
@TheGoatMumbler7 жыл бұрын
This vid would have been great in HD.
@hiseminencetheholymacdiarmada8 ай бұрын
I use both. Hoppes bore cleaner for the barrel, Ballistol for everywhere else.
@357magdad8 ай бұрын
Check out my newer CLP showdown: kzbin.info/www/bejne/annJmGardp1sqpo
@eazy_e.7153 Жыл бұрын
I mean… I use hoppes in the areas that get covered in powder like the bore and the front of the frame. Ballistol everywhere else and in the bore after cleaning for rust protection.
@357magdad Жыл бұрын
I also use Hoppes #9 along with a quality CLP.
@mypetvelociraptorАй бұрын
That’s very interesting. I wonder if hoppes is toxic . I love ballistal . I know it can be used for 1000 different things like wood and I know it’s supposed to be the best thing for my black powder revolvers. I even heard that it could be used as a disinfectant or a bug repellent.😅 Crazy lol Thank you 🙏
@357magdadАй бұрын
Thanks for watching! I would not advise drinking Hoppes #9.
@c_twisted917 жыл бұрын
Do a second line of that powder lol
@michaelsolis98916 жыл бұрын
When you did the trail of power twice xD
@LuigiPizza-fv2hv3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. So, after letting the Ballistol receive two soakings, it was able to achieve the equivalent level of cleaning as the Hoppes.
@357magdad3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Ballistol will remove burnt powder if left to soak long enough. Check out my review of Clenoil! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHTEgKCNntiEZrs
@ronragasa80543 жыл бұрын
Could wd40 be used as a solvent? I figured that wd40 will penetrate the powder residue because it's a penetrating oil and that might make powder residue easier to remove.
@357magdad3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! WD-40 works about as good as the other CLP's I've tested.
@gusloader1232 жыл бұрын
Interesting test, and I think you tried to be fair, but,,,, It was not an "Apples to Apples" test. Hoppes #9 is a solvent. I bought my first bottle when I was eighteen years of age to clean my shotgun. After using the Hoppes solvent and running dry patches on all metal parts you need to put on some gun oil. Ballistol is made from vegetables, so it is not toxic as Hoppe's and other solvents are. It is a C.L.P. (Cleaner, Lubricant, Protector) not just a solvent. I'm sure it would need extra time (than the Hoppes) and some more brushing, but the user gets a lubricant and protector also in one can. Sadly, the two hardware stores in my town do not carry Ballistol only Hoppes or "Outer's" brand. I will have to mail order or buy online. {I asked both of the owners, but their distributor does not stock Ballistol.}
@357magdad2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Many folks use CLP's like Ballistol as a do-it-all cleaner + lubricant. The purpose of my tests are to see if Ballistol and other CLP's can clean as well as a powder solvent like Hoppe's #9. So far only Ballistol, Clenzoil and mil-spec Break Free have been able to dissolve burnt powder on par with Hoppes #9.
@mnrodriguez2 жыл бұрын
Either one does the job of cleaning after a range visit.
@stevenstjohn6681 Жыл бұрын
Aerosol vs liquid always going to be different
@blackbirdpie2173 жыл бұрын
You might also add the fast burning stuff to the test, that is black powder.
@tylerreis76277 жыл бұрын
Hoppes has been around so long because it works
@Skootsem7 жыл бұрын
Tyler Reis Ballistol developed 1904 Hoppe’s #9 developed 1907 Things that make you go “Hmm!” If he had left the Ballistol for 10-12 minutes, 1 application would have given similar if not better results as the Hoppe’s 9. That combined with the other uses for Ballistol’s lubricant and protectant that Hoppe’s 9 simply doesn’t give you. “All the rest is falderal , better use the Ballistol!”
@stchman6 жыл бұрын
@@Skootsem Wrong Hoppe's #9 was developed in 1903. Hoppe's is going to CLEAN a firearm better than Ballistol.
@Skootsem6 жыл бұрын
stchman thanks for the catch, ‘03 went in the eyes and ‘07 came out of the fingers. Facts are facts, after all. However: The issue of one being better than the other is a matter of preference and opinion.
@stchman6 жыл бұрын
@@Skootsem No, the test was conclusive. Hoppe's is a better cleaner than Ballistol.
@Skootsem6 жыл бұрын
stchman not if the Balistol was applied and not given the required time. Imagine any cleaner being used improperly and saying “It’s not good enough!” smh