Powder Solvent Comparison Break Free CLP and Ballistol vs Hoppes #9

[@357magdad]

Check out my review of the new MIL-SPEC Break Free! kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5jZhmqqopWorsU

[@j.robertbragg4015]

Looks like I'll continue to use Ballistol.

[@skiflyfightdoc]

Nicely control demonstration. As opposed to others, I think this video truly has significant applicability to real-world use. Thank you!

[@airwolf...]

This was a great video. Straight and to the point. Excellent test procedure. We need more videos of this quality on KZbin.

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I've got a CLP and Ballistol tests playlist - check it out!

[@dad3562]

Well done ! I truly appreciate you creating this video and sharing with us all.

[@357magdad]

Thank you! And thanks for watching!

[@JohnSmith-qx8ll]

Great video! I use #9 to clean the bore, followed by a light coating of Rem oil. If The gun is going to be in storage for a longer period, I use Ballistol instead of the Rem oil.

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching! I pretty much do the same thing but I've been using the Lucas CLP.

[@johna3357]

I use CLP for lightly fouled guns. Works good and makes life simpler. I keep a bottle of hoppes 9 on hand for guns that are real dirty.

[@Cadoe19]

Will hoppes clp get rust off my barrel

[@ralphpastine4587]

Hoppes to clean break free to lubricate been doing it that way for 25 years never had a problem

[@gusloader123]

Good video. Fair test. For many years I have used Hoppe's #9 as the bore solvent, also to clean the actions, triggers, bolts, hammers, trigger areas. brush, then a cloth patch, then a thin coat of oil (Outers, Rem Oil, and recently some "3 in1" oil,,, probably the oldest "C-L-P" on the market. Sadly, my local hardware store owner told me a few months ago that "3-in-" oil is no longer being made. 😪 Put it on exposed metal and the trigger/action, hammer, bolt, breach areas. Not a huge amount, but a thin coat.

[@ClearBrookExotics]

Thanks so Much for these tests!

[@357magdad]

You're welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@Zobeid]

Hoppes is a powder solvent. If you use Hoppes to clean your gun, then you need to follow that with a lubricant (like maybe LSA) and also with a rust preventative (like maybe Brownells No. 2). That was the old traditional gun-cleanging regimen with three different fluids, one for each purpose. By comparison, Break Free and Ballistol are both CLP-type products that "clean, lubricate, protect" and replace all three fluids with one bottle. However, they don't perform any of those functions as well as a dedicated product. It's a compromise. Personally, I find that Ballistol is perfectly adequate for routine use, but I do keep more powerful cleaners on hand for those situations where a gun is badly fouled.

[@DickRileyTheConquistador]

This is not a Hoppes video tho.

[@humansvd3269]

Ballistol for general purpose cleaning, Hoppes for the bore. Stop using Break Free as I felt it didn't do as well.

[@LuigiPizza-fv2hv]

The Break Free was NOT 🚫 Impressive in this Experiment.

[@mercoid]

I’ve never had a problem with good ole #9. 👍

[@357magdad]

You can't go wrong with Hoppes #9!

[@rawbacon]

Hoppe's No. 9 has been around longer than any of us have been alive. It's what I've used since I was a teen and I see no reason to stop. My biggest question is what gives it that amazing scent............I'm not a smoker but if they come out with a Hoppe's Cigar I might start.

[@357magdad]

They used to sell Hoppes air fresheners! I think you can still find them on ebay.

[@WildWing-wl7nj]

Actually it seemed like Hoppes did best. Not surprising, after decades. I would continue using Hoppes for the cleaning, and then if you want to use the others for a bit of lube, that's ok. But I've yet to see a better cleaner than Hoppes.

[@chadhaire1711]

soapy water with ammonia works better on corrosive...why no test here?

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching! I think the soapy water + ammonia is used with black powder and surplus corrosive ammo. I don't have anything like that to test, I only use modern smokless powder.

[@chadhaire1711]

@@357magdad Yes but if you burned a small pile of black powder on bare metal and sprayed Ballistol (who claims to dissolve corrosive), BreakFree (which did better on rust in your tests) and soapy water with a bit of ammonia on each metal plate it would make a great corrosive test. You already have all these lubes and other supplies from previous videos....all you would need is get is a small jar of black powder....you could probably borrow some. Even if you had to buy powder you would be out only a few bucks. There are a lot of black powder shooters out there who would watch the video.

[@smartmeis]

Hoppes #9 has always been what my dad used, and I use now, and will always use, and if the Communist dont take my guns, my kids will use hoppes #9.

[@357magdad]

You can't go wrong with Hoppes #9!

[@stwicks77]

Ya but Hoppes 9 smell is like fresh baked bread to my nose...love that smell

[@jimblane1183]

It makes me see things.

[@jameylane9196]

I cleaned 3 guns yesterday and still have the smell in my nose. It's like sweet sweet man perfume.

[@careercriminal9667]

Everyone who comes into my garage knows when its cleaning day 😁

[@trailwatcher5]

I wear it in the club. The women love it !

[@thefinder8087]

Breakfree CLP gives me a wicked headache. Ballistol smells a bit funky, like black licorice and old socks, but doesn't cause any headaches for me.

[@DEVILDOG1964]

TRY SUCKING ON A PEPPERMINT CANDY CANE!!

[@gayle525]

According to your second patches the Barristol won. It had the least residue on it.

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching! Ballistol is the only "do it all" CLP that I have tested that can dissolve burnt powder as well as Hoppes #9. The Ballistol just needs more time to soak.

[@doranmaxwell1755]

a modern one using Ed's red with Kerosene instead of lamp oil. lamp oil may not be reactive enough as it does not flash off as well and takes longer to burn. I would say it works but I would increase the dose 10% or more and expect the formula to work more slowly. camp fuel #3 is better. I also add a few ounces of Amyl acetate (for odor but it is a solvent also) and lanolin in place of whale oil. Also.... the society of machinists did extensive testing on penetrating oils a while back with off the shelf and home brew. Kroil came in first but only by a hair too close to call thing... what almost beat it was simply 50/50 acetone/atf I believe the Ed's penetrates to the pores of the metal and lifts fouling while also protecting. I have all the CLP's in the test and they just sit now some being 5 years old or older. I make the Ed's by the gallon and it does not sit. everyone I know wants a quart or two. Imagine what a quart of inferior hoppes would cost much less a gallon LOL. Also...if you have not tried this with your guns... I cast almost all my bullets then coat with HT but you can buy cast bullets already coated.... you have to try em if you have not already. no smoke from the bullet lube.... slightly less pressure with a tad more velocity.... EASY cleanup. I shoot .357... 44mag...45 acp and 30 carbine handguns. no leading at all and very light fowling... Ed's red and Ht coat... unbeatable. I finally convinced some magazine writers (the young ones) to try coated bullets in testing. In their testing the coated bullets were always a bit more accurate and a bit faster and... they all said how clean the guns stayed.

[@josearellano5778]

So which was the best performing cleaner

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching Jose! Ballistol is able to match the performance of Hoppes #9, but it needs a long time to soak. I've got a review of the new formula MIL-Spec Break Free coming soon!

[@angeldej4225]

Very good comparison

[@Plainsimple67]

HOPPE'S #9 FOR POWDER SOLVENT IS THE BEST, FOR COPPER BARNES! I ALSO USE BUTCH'S BORE SHINE FOR EVERYTHING, WORKS GREAT. THE BALLISTOL IS MY SHOTGUN CLEANER, IT WORKS GREAT ON PLASTIC PARTS AND LEATHER SLINGS. I LOVE THE SMELL OF FROGLUBE, WORKS GREAT AS WELL, AND I FINAL CLEAN ALL MY SHOTGUN PARTS THAT MY FACE AND HANDS WILL TOUCH DURING A COMPETITION.

[@ultra78721]

Now which one leaves a better lubricant coat regardless of how it cleans CLP or Ballistol ?

[@357magdad]

I did an experiment where I left Ballistol "dry" for 24 hours. I got interesting results. kzbin.info/www/bejne/maKpmGielJh9lZo

[@ultra78721]

@@357magdad Looking at your other video kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2SmZqRjidCmsNU In my opinion Ballistol Cleans better but has less lubricant. Break Free has Less Cleaner and more lubricant. Im going with BreakFree ,,,I never leave my guns sit in storage dirty ,I clean them the same day I Shoot them. So i do not need a heavy cleaner . I go to the range less often than I want to , so longer storage (more lubricant) When I go to the range its for a long time and many rounds will be fired (more lubricant) Better lubrication the less likely Gun powder residue will stick to the parts of the gun. So cleaning is easy and shouldn't need a heavy cleaner. If I store the guns dirty or if the environment was rough. I then go with hoppes bore cleaner and use Break Free LP or Break Free CLP Afterwords. Thanks for the upload buddy very helpful !

[@eddie-nc8gu]

The big three of Gunn cleaners. Can't go wrong with any of these

[@357magdad]

Check out my latest CLP showdown: kzbin.info/www/bejne/annJmGardp1sqpo

[@Physics072]

Hoppes #9 is still hard to beat. Not sure why people use balistol, I have it and it smells worse, cleans worse and leaves a film, does not break down copper either and it might cost more too. Pay more get less. I think maybe Balistol might be better on rubber O rings in pellet guns.

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching! Ballistol has a love it or hate it odor. Hoppes #9 smells so nice that they sell air fresheners with the scent!

[@UncleFjester]

Nice, I'll switch from break free to ballistol

[@357magdad]

Check out my review of the new MIL SPEC Break Free! kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5jZhmqqopWorsU

[@billbuchanan2767]

Have you tested Weapons shield?

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching! I looked Weapons shield up on amazon - looks interesting but at roughly $20 for 4 oz it seems quite pricey!

[@JeffVanAlstine]

YOU SHOULD TEST STRIKEHOLD , ITS THE BEST

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching Jeff! I filmed my Strike Hold review this week! Stay tuned!

[@Jay1830]

Thank you, this is a well made comparaison. I don't have black powder at home and I don't want to open a bullet, can you make a test for me ? Pour some powder in a recipe Burn the powder Spray Ballistol in the recipe Wait 24h I've heard that the residues becomes a white liquid stuff with Ballistol, and I would like to know if its true or not. Because there is a lot of discussion about overspraying ballistol that can track residues in firing pin and cause malfunction and stuff. And if ballistol dissolves powder to make it a liquid stuff then there is no problem having a few ballistol in the firing pin bloc. Thank you again :)

[@357magdad]

I will try your test. Stay tuned!

[@357magdad]

Check out my latest video. I hope my test results were helpful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/maKpmGielJh9lZo

[@kelvynfurniel7272]

I thank this video its very explanatory.. Im all get me a bottle of this Hoopes cleaner

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching! It's hard to beat Hoppes #9.

[@mikebordeaux8218]

Is Hoppes safe on polymer? Thank,you.

[@357magdad]

I do not have experience with gun solvents and polymers. My GP100 is all metal! If you do a google search I think you will find most people have not had any problems. Thanks for watching!

[@UnderDog1911]

The real question is: Are WE safe with polymer firearms?? 1911 RULES! 😎 Just kidding you. "...Love the [gun] you're with..." 👍

[@careercriminal9667]

Yes.

[@michaeledens1271]

Where can I get one of those bottles that the Hoppe's is in?

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching! You can find bottles like that on Amazon or ebay.

[@chrismanning217]

I have 17 hmr, i spay front inch or so of bore snake with balistol. I rip it through a few times and the barrel seems pretty clean after. 17s are not the easiest to clean

[@ThreadsOfTime1201]

So based on your tests, CLP is better than Ballistol for corrosion resistance but Ballistol is a better cleaner. Good to know.

[@357magdad]

Ballistol is the only CLP I've tested that is able to dissolve burnt powder.

[@stektirade]

this is weird cause the videos ive seen out there shows that hoppes isnt very good and clp and ballistol do the best.

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching! I try to include all of the steps for my tests so that anyone can repeat them and verify the results for themselves! Try it for yourself! Burning powder is fun!!

[@craigmiller8902]

Love your videos. Please compare G96 CLP and Breakfree CLP. Breakfree is no longer approved by the US military but G96 is approved. It should be an interesting comparison. Thank you.

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching! I'll put G96 on the list. Hopefully I'll get some this summer.

[@357magdad]

Craig, I FINALLY did the comparison you requested. Sorry it took me so long! kzbin.info/www/bejne/baXRdHp_hqh5kNE

[@genericaccount5997]

Breakfree CLP is still on the approval list.

[@LuigiPizza-fv2hv]

The Break Free didn't do so well 😰

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching! Check out my review of Clenzoil! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHTEgKCNntiEZrs

[@nathanhassey4724]

You are comparing a solvent to 2 oils...

[@357magdad]

Thanks for watching! Many gun owners rely on CLP's like Break Free and Ballistol as a do-all cleaner and lube. Then purpose of this test was to see if Break Free and Ballistol are as effective at cleaning as a dedicated cleaner like Hoppes #9.

[@nathanhassey4724]

@@357magdad I didnt mean to come off as a nay sayer. I've seen a lot of these videos and I just think people forget there are solvents (i.e. copper, lead etc) specifically designed for that purpose.

[@357magdad]

@@nathanhassey4724 In my experience, a bore solvent like Hoppes #9 followed with a good CLP like Break Free (or others) is the best way to clean and protect your firearm.

[@nathanhassey4724]

@@357magdad agreed.

[@erichbrady721]

Benzene

[@mikeanthony07]

Cool video, but again gun powder doesn't burn onto or sit....on.... your steel barrel . Not a real world example.

[@johngalt6929]

Where do you think muzzle flash comes from? Burning powder in your barrel.