Bambi II: The Purgatory of Grief

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@larsatticus6807
@larsatticus6807 5 ай бұрын
The live action remakes continue to have ridiculous premises. “Some children and parents are more sensitive to death than they used to be” Wow if only there was a way for people to explore the idea of death in a safe context… something not real, perhaps “fictional”… what a concept!
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
@shytendeakatamanoir9740 5 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see Bambi's mom frolick in the Crystal Forest, away from her son and husband! It will be so much more cathartic than the original!
@TheNumnutRandomness
@TheNumnutRandomness 5 ай бұрын
I can't wait for Bambi's mom to get banished to Shadow Realm, forever separated from her child and husband in immortal agony. CLOSURE!
@CJPrime931
@CJPrime931 5 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see Bambi's mother input an invincibility star power up cheat code and do the floss dance to the song "I Will Survive" by Gloria Gaynor as she goomba stomps the dogs and their masters. 🤪
@starvoltnexus3139
@starvoltnexus3139 5 ай бұрын
So we all know that all of the Disney leader ship are criminals now can we have them arrested already please
@asleepyb0i400
@asleepyb0i400 5 ай бұрын
I can’t wait for Bambi’s mom to be the twist villain of the remake, and with the power of friendship and magic locked away in a mirror! 🤩 that’s so much better! /s
@boowind4432
@boowind4432 5 ай бұрын
I can’t begin to tell you how much my brothers and I quoted “a prince does not… woo hoo.” as kids
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator 5 ай бұрын
[laughs in Sims]
@lilhedgehog8576
@lilhedgehog8576 5 ай бұрын
@@FelisImpurrator Sims? Like ♦️sims? I love the sims.
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator 5 ай бұрын
@@lilhedgehog8576 That is the joke, yes.
@Mi..Mi..
@Mi..Mi.. 5 ай бұрын
Also the great prince: woo-hoo!
@HawkinaBox
@HawkinaBox 4 ай бұрын
“How do you know you don’t like it if you’ve never tried it?” I’m going to use that on my future kids ❤
@cnmnnaturalist
@cnmnnaturalist 5 ай бұрын
The choice of silencing the score after his mother's death was probably also to mimic the muffled silence during such snowfall. It can make you feel very alone and isolated, as familiar noises suddenly seem to disappear. Sad in this portrayal, but I personally love it!
@leFoxyCrafter
@leFoxyCrafter 5 ай бұрын
I had one of the anniversary release dvds and it had a behind the scenes that mentioned that it was indeed a deliberate choice, but it actually happens twice. The death ofc, but also when his mom.says "Man was in the forest." After the meadow scene. They muted the score in both places to add punch to those moments and obviously it works.
@tomnorton4277
@tomnorton4277 5 ай бұрын
I love that Mina's "Faster Bambi! Don't look back! Keep running! Keep running!" DOESN'T cut to a flashback. That line is so iconic that the filmmakers didn't need to spell it out. They knew that everybody would make the connection and understand exactly why Bambi stopped, turned, and rushed back to rescue her. It wasn't as much about Mina herself - and Mina knew it since she silently walked away when she saw the Great Prince and Bambi nuzzling each other - as it was a second chance to symbolically save his mom and get closure.
@KingQandy
@KingQandy 5 ай бұрын
The beauty of Bambi is the fact that, there is no closure to the death. Life is brutal. Life is unpredictable. And life moves on. When a loved one dies, that's it. You can't talk to their ghost ala Lion King, and at times you don't even get a final conversation ala Land Before Time. Sometimes, many times, they're just taken from you and you just have to move on. That's what happens in Bambi. The world doesn't stop spinning, the seasons don't cease their cycles. It keeps going. Bambi grows up, builds a new life, and the cycle continues. Even the spring song that happens afterward fits, as just because you've experienced trauma, doesn't mean the rest of the world are going to pause their lives and celebrations, because their lives don't revolve around you. I love thatt sort of raw, non-fairytale approach to death that Bambi has.
@wifflewaffle5006
@wifflewaffle5006 5 ай бұрын
I will argue that when you’re the one dealing with grief, the world does indeed stop spinning, for that person specifically. The world gets duller, things become meaningless. Sure, the rest of the world is moving, but for that person it’s like it’s working in slow-mo. It’s never as simple as “ah well life goes on”, no, it still takes time and getting yourself up to deal with that loss, then MAYBE the world will continue to spin for them. But grief lasts forever, even if you’ve accepted it, it’s still there. My father passed when I was quite young, and even though it’s been longer than a decade since then, I still have very painful days where I just wish he was here, hoping to hear his voice again. I had to dig through old photos just so I could remember his face, and as I have a child of my own now, there comes the new pain of knowing that they will never meet and he will never know his granddaughter who I know would have loved him just as much or even more than I did. I hate the entire “ah, well that’s life” statement. Yes, death is part of life, but death can be cruel to those who have to deal with the aftermath. Some people never recover.
@KingQandy
@KingQandy 5 ай бұрын
@wifflewaffle5006 Those feelings are true and valid from a personal perspective. But Bambi isn't covering only the personal perspective of life. It's about the forest as a whole. The seasons, nature. Not every story is tailored like a fantasy, where conflict is resolved in a cathartic manner. As someone who has also lost many, many loved ones over the years, and has witnessed how the world around me continues to spin regardless of how my own personal grief has consumed me, I appreciate Bambi's approach to death.
@wifflewaffle5006
@wifflewaffle5006 5 ай бұрын
@@KingQandy I personally never got that from these movies 🤷‍♀️
@C_Raccoon23
@C_Raccoon23 4 ай бұрын
True, it’s not realistic to want the whole world to stop for you when a loved one dies or when you experience some other trauma and I don’t think most people expect that. However, regardless of the circumstances of a loved one’s death, there’s always a time and place for grief. Maybe not right at the moment of their death, but later at a more appropriate time. And that’s what I appreciate about Bambi II. It doesn’t pretend that Bambi’s mom never existed and it goes into how her death affected Bambi and his father and how the two use it to grow closer together. Likewise, we don’t just suddenly forget about our dead loved ones just because we have to eventually move on.
@shamrock5725
@shamrock5725 4 ай бұрын
Fairly tales used to be Grimm.
@hex_the_rabbit
@hex_the_rabbit 5 ай бұрын
I remember gathering my friends together to force them to watch Bambi and Bambi II for my birthday, partially because it was a running joke and that my nickname was Bambi but also because I really needed them to watch Bambi II. They were surprised to find that they really enjoyed Bambi II, some even liked it more than the original. While the original Bambi is beautiful to watch and is was ground breaking animation wise, it really does feel like it's missing something important. Bambi II is that guilty pleasure movie that lets your brain be turned off for a moment while you put a big fat band aid on that trauma.
@ShesquatchPiney
@ShesquatchPiney 5 ай бұрын
I think It's a lovely "slice of life" in many of the same ways the original was. Given the constraints I'm sure the artists making it had, I think it is beautifully rendered with love for the classic. It's certainly much more complex than most of its direct to video brethren with what it purports to accomplish narratively as well a technically.
@najpotenicewolf934
@najpotenicewolf934 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, Bambi 2 is one of the few Disney remakes I actually enjoyed. Along with Lion King II and Lady and The Tramp II.
@artsyscrub3226
@artsyscrub3226 4 ай бұрын
It's definitely a movie i preffer over the original, i like the story that bambi and his dad bonded over their mutual greif over the loss of bambi's mom, the great prince learned to chill out and that life doesn't have to be so serious even when it's serious, and Bambi learned that he wasn't alone anymore he didn't have to be alone because he has his friends and his dad
@CatsRul85
@CatsRul85 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I adore Bambi 2, it's one of those movies where it's better then it has any right to be (not perfect but fun) Also I loved the unsettling idea of what a Hunter's deer call might sound like to a deer. Also DAMN how is Bambi 2 almost 20 YEARS OLD that feels so wrong
@The_Sin_Squad
@The_Sin_Squad 5 ай бұрын
oh gOD SINCE WHEN DID WE GET SO OLD
@SilvrRazorFeather
@SilvrRazorFeather 5 ай бұрын
Yeah the realization on my first viewing that Bambi was not, in fact, still dreaming, but the hunter's call sounded like his mother, hit me like a slap upside the head. Honestly the best scene in the whole movie, impact wise.
@dannypalin9583
@dannypalin9583 5 ай бұрын
@@CatsRul85 Bambi 2 came out when I was about to leave primary and start high school. I'm from the UK, so I don't know if the education system is any different in the US, but I'm getting sidetracked. I was in Manchester a few weeks ago, went into a record shop that also sold videos and DVDs that people had handed in. I found a first edition Bambi 2 DVD which still had the sticker saying you could get a free Flower plushy. I remember seeing that in the adverts and my mind was blown. All I could think was "I never started high school nearly 20 years ago"
@cockerspanielfan56
@cockerspanielfan56 5 ай бұрын
Oh yes Bambi 2 that was a good sequel man. We got to see Ronno as an adolescent buck and it was funny seeing him as a mama’s boy. Dude even cried for his mommy when man was coming, what a coward and never faced man in his life. And he judged Bambi for being scared, what a lot of hogwash. I know if Bambi’s dad didn’t come in time to save him, Bambi would’ve met the same fate as his mom. Like don’t just stand there like youse in headlights. Run like heck.
@jadedjaws4952
@jadedjaws4952 5 ай бұрын
I didn't learn to appreciate this movie until this video because I don't think when I saw this at 13 or whatever I realized that the hunter call was the ghost voice. That is more fucked up than it has a right to be in a KIDS MOVIE. But I also appreciate it for that. Nice to see the next generation still got their own dose of trauma. 😂
@sketchyskies8531
@sketchyskies8531 5 ай бұрын
“A prince does not 🎵woo hoo🎵” My immediate reaction:😳
@warriorskitcat3859
@warriorskitcat3859 5 ай бұрын
7:58
@rockstarroxat8682
@rockstarroxat8682 5 ай бұрын
😂
@osmanyousif7849
@osmanyousif7849 2 ай бұрын
What does Queen Elinor say? "A princess does not chortle, doesn't stuff her gob, rises early, is compassionate, patient, cautious, clean, and above all, a princess strives for, well, perfection."
@jpickens189
@jpickens189 5 ай бұрын
I think the decision to deny catharsis is my favorite part of Bambi. The majority of media is obsessed with the idea of processing grief and the idea of death for us, Bambi, instead portrays the brutality of nature, it does not wait for death, does not give us resolution to our grief, just demands that we embrace existence in a world where death is inevitable, unpredictable, and ultimately meaningless. Dealing with that emotionally is not the film's job, it is our job.
@The_Sin_Squad
@The_Sin_Squad 5 ай бұрын
Love this comment! Thank you for your perspective!
@gracehaven5459
@gracehaven5459 5 ай бұрын
Very astute and insightful observation
@dannypalin9583
@dannypalin9583 5 ай бұрын
@@jpickens189 Everyone loves to make jokes about how we go from Bambi's mum dying to a bunch of birds singing about how great love is. Even as a young kid, I found it jarring. But my dad explained it in three words. "Life goes on"
@AntiFaGoat
@AntiFaGoat 5 ай бұрын
I don't think this lack of catharsis is about nature being brutal, but rather the horror of Man being able to take away anybody we viewers care about in the film with one trigger pull. It sets up how horrifying the hunting party later on in the film will be. ANYONE can die, so Faline and Bambi himself are on that list. Remember, Bambi gets shot and nearly dies from exhaustion+incineration in the forest fire. To me, this is about taking action in crisis, even if you want to give up. There's no time to grieve or heal when death is at your door, so what will you do about it? Will you give up or get up again?
@littlemoth4956
@littlemoth4956 5 ай бұрын
"does not give us resolution to our grief, just demands that we embrace existence" But... that is resolution. No?
@dannypalin9583
@dannypalin9583 5 ай бұрын
I have a soft spot for Bambi 2. Both it and Cinderella 3 are a testament that direct to video sequels could work when the studio was genuinely trying. It's kind of jarring that, chronologically, we go from orchestral music to 2000s country/pop and then back to orchestral. Not to mention how Bambi starts talking a lot more after his mum dies. Despite this, you can tell that they respected the original 1942 film. They gave us closure with Bambi and his mother. They even gave the Great Prince a chance to grieve. Yeah, the movie made a joke about Flower farting, but they could have also had Man appear onscreen and have a joke where his pants get pulled down to reveal he's wearing boxers with love hearts on them. Then one of his dogs bites his butt.
@voiceofthelegion578
@voiceofthelegion578 5 ай бұрын
Lion king 2 was also a pretty good disney sequel. They weren't all terrible like people like to say.
@eglol
@eglol 4 ай бұрын
Bambi 2 and Cinderella III are certainly some of my favourite Disney sequels, along with Lion King 2 (of which I liked better than the original)
@XxAmayaSanxX
@XxAmayaSanxX 5 ай бұрын
I thought the deer call scene was genuinely haunting and creepy, and very creative
@joosoo
@joosoo 5 ай бұрын
As someone who lost many family members when I was a young child (horrific accident), Bambi and Bambi 2 are so dear to me. The sudden shocking death of his mother in the original and subsequent return to joy felt a lot like what I was pushed towards as a child, as my grief was both difficult for me to understand and the outside world did not want to "burden" a child with death. When I was about 11, Bambi 2 was released and was given it as a gift as my father knew I liked Bambi a lot. Bambi 2 was deeply cathartic and healing. The denial of grief, the struggle of family members to connect with each other... it felt like somebody had built a bridge for me to cross it and understand the tragedies of the past.
@GabyyRose
@GabyyRose 5 ай бұрын
"Current generations are more sensitive" YES BECAUSE YOU'RE DUMBING EVERYTHING DOWN !! Stop critisizing an entire generation on false pretence when the new bland industry standard is at fault DISNEY !!
@lilhedgehog8576
@lilhedgehog8576 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m sure the children and their parents will be fine. I have a very bad fear of death and these scenes didn’t scare me when I was a kid.
@TheHalloweenSpirit
@TheHalloweenSpirit 5 ай бұрын
I think the current bland industry standard are the Minions...
@najpotenicewolf934
@najpotenicewolf934 5 ай бұрын
That's the thing: They need to learn how to process things like this. Pretending it doesn't exist will not just erase mortality, as well as the unpredictable and haunting nature of it. It will still happen. Kids' movies that tackle death and grief are the safest way for children to get familliar with the idea, and maybe cope a little better if a tragedy happens.
@Sunniflowerr
@Sunniflowerr 5 ай бұрын
Hmm.... HMMMM If me, an 11 year old can handle a cat getting murdered by a tiny emo cat who rips out his organs, then I can handle death in a movie
@lilhedgehog8576
@lilhedgehog8576 5 ай бұрын
@@Sunniflowerr you know what, I just realized stuff like Poppy playtime and fnaf is popular nowadays with the children so it makes what they’re saying, even stupider.
@shards-of-glass-man
@shards-of-glass-man 5 ай бұрын
As someone who read the book at like six and only came across the Disney movie after, my experience watching it for the first time can be summed in two words where Gobo
@The_Sin_Squad
@The_Sin_Squad 5 ай бұрын
THEY ABANDONED OUR BOY
@FurbyFullyLoaded
@FurbyFullyLoaded 5 ай бұрын
YES PLEASE make a vid about the Bambi book, I’d heard it was darker than the movie but never knew about the political context in which it was made
@JustButton
@JustButton 5 ай бұрын
Bumping this
@bugdomrulez
@bugdomrulez 5 ай бұрын
i love the bambi books, especially the first one.
@weresehlat
@weresehlat 5 ай бұрын
Thirding this!
@sampeacaml9307
@sampeacaml9307 5 ай бұрын
Yes, pretty please! I readed that novel of Salten! Loved it! 😃 Please, do that follow-up. Collodi's Pinocchio also was pretty dark.
@AntiFaGoat
@AntiFaGoat 5 ай бұрын
Since "Bambi: a Life in the Woods" is in the public domain now, you can read the whole book online for free. It's an engaging read no matter what age you are.
@pamala77
@pamala77 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, I was that kid with terrible taste who had ALL of the Disney sequels (found out later that it was because they were affordable), but out of all of them, this was the one I would rewatch the most, and even as a 30 year old lady, certain scenes still bring me to tears. Maybe me and my daddy issues are projecting too much, but I feel like Bambi 2 is one of the better sequels because it has so much heart in it. Sir Patrick does a wonderful job taking on the role of the Great Prince and his acting does a lot to carry the emotion of the scenes he's in. And the actor they got for Bambi does a good job of still acting like a kid without being too annoying or too clever for his age. There's a genuineness to the film that shines in the acting and they way the story plays out. Sure, I wish there'd been less fart jokes and stuff, but there's also something heartbreakingly familiar about a kid trying to maintain his relationships with his friends, while also having to adjust to a new family dynamic and go through grief that none of them can really understand or relate to. Overall, I think Bambi 2 has a lot more good in it than it does bad and fills a void, certainly for me, but I'd assume for a lot of other people as well.
@CrimsonNebulaz
@CrimsonNebulaz 4 ай бұрын
I never realized that was Patrick Stewart! That makes me like this movie even more!
@margoalex.
@margoalex. 5 ай бұрын
literally the first thing I thought of when you described the premise of bambi 2 was “oh so it’s like a fanfiction” so hearing your little ao3 joke at the end made me smile
@bassdasdwadsasdasw
@bassdasdwadsasdasw 5 ай бұрын
I would like a video on how Walt Disney looked at *THIS* and went "hurr dee durr deer go WEEEE"
@dannypalin9583
@dannypalin9583 5 ай бұрын
@@bassdasdwadsasdasw I've noticed that, unlike later Disney movies about growing up, everyone prefers the kid versions of the Bambi characters as opposed to the adults. It took me a while but I understand why. The dark tearjerking parts mostly happen when Bambi's a fawn. The next scene when he's grown up is when the movie becomes goofy and slapstick heavy.
@collegemaster5683
@collegemaster5683 4 ай бұрын
I'd like a video on how Walt Disney looked at Snow White and Sleeping Beauty, and went "hurr dee durr pretty girl go lalalaaa I like deer go WEEEE"
@rosexknight
@rosexknight 5 ай бұрын
I remember at one point watching a commentary of sorts where the movie played in the back while recordings of Walt and the creative team played as they went through storyboards as commentary, and when they got to this scene I was shocked to hear not that this moment held so much weight as the first non-villain death in a Disney movie, but that the creative team told Walt no to showing the body on screen. It's somehow better and worse without it.
@haileyshannon7548
@haileyshannon7548 5 ай бұрын
I always remember the one Tumblr post of the people dressed like Disney villains like Ursula, Gaston, The Queen from Snow White, etc. and in the middle of them is a normal looking guy dressed in camos and an orange vest with a rifle and somebody asked “Who’s that?” And they said “That’s the guy who killed Bambi’s Mom!”
@benburke3015
@benburke3015 5 ай бұрын
"Deer Funeral" definitely sounds like a Sufjan Stevens parody song written by Chris Fleming.
@The_Sin_Squad
@The_Sin_Squad 5 ай бұрын
I need this so badly, oh god
@benburke3015
@benburke3015 5 ай бұрын
@@The_Sin_Squad same. Lol.
@JustButton
@JustButton 5 ай бұрын
3:38 Wow when you put it up next to all these films it's WILD that anything Disney!Bambi related comes form 2006. That's contemporary with Happy Feet, Over the Hedge, Monster House, Scanner Darkly... CARS?? They made a Bambi followup in the same year as CARS?! Are you kidding? No wonder this film feels so haunted, this crew were playing with story grist that wasn't too much older than Disney period. It's like ship of Theseus-ing A Model T into a 2006 Ford Focus... No it's like the back of a Model T, withe the body of a Ford Focus, and then the FRONT CHASSIS of a Model T. Frankenstein WISHES he could be so depraved.
@KaminoKatie
@KaminoKatie 5 ай бұрын
Not to mention that in some countries, Bambi 2 was released theatrically
@littlemoth4956
@littlemoth4956 5 ай бұрын
Good lord just say Bambi. People will know what you're talking about.
@dannypalin9583
@dannypalin9583 5 ай бұрын
@@JustButton I saw Over the Hedge, Cars and Monster House all in 2006 but didn't see Bambi 2 until a year or two later. I worked in a care home back in 2019 and one of the tenants I was looking after had Monster House on DVD. My mind flew back to Bambi 2, and I felt weirded out that I associated a sequel to a movie about talking deer with a movie about a man-eating house. Then I remembered they both came out in 2006.
@lizard8749
@lizard8749 5 ай бұрын
Bambi 2 isn’t a great movie but it’s a perfect midquel. It addresses the first film in a way that dose not take away or even change it but instead it feels like missing context. The fanfiction joke was very apt as this definetly feels like one of those canon compliant fics. One of those fanfictions that take place during a time skip or whatever that is weirdly on brand and fits with the timeline but the writing style is so different from the source material it becomes the writing equivalent of the uncanny valley. Still it’s probably one of THE best movies from the direct to dvd sequels series.
@sadjack9491
@sadjack9491 5 ай бұрын
this video touches on so many interesting points. using the original VA's voice of Bambi's mom to lure Bambi into a false sense of security is downright haunting and horrific, and i love the metatextual analysis of how this film was constructed. how it was pieced together with old and new clips, but the old still speaks so damn loudly. and it honestly reminds me of my own experience of witnessing a ghost in film. i have a grandfather i never met, who died some years before i was born. all i knew of him were stories and the photographs we had scattered around the house. these grainy shots of him from the late 1980s and very early 90s just before he died. and that's all i would ever know of him until a few years ago, a family friend had reached out to my mother saying they had discovered an old VHS tape that had my grandfather on it, playing in a band ensemble on the trumpet, and had him speak for about 10 seconds. they had converted the file into an MP4 format and burned it onto a DVD for my family and i had double saved the file with my own g-drive account. i watched this video with my my mom and her siblings, and got to experience my grandfather's voice for the first time with them. how they talked about how his voice was higher in this video because that that point he had quit smoking. but in that video he was alive. he was a person, not just a memory or a photo for me. modern technology is fucking incredible for stuff like this, and i think a lot can be said about Bambi 2 about how it presents the idea of hauntology, or how as humans we will always be haunted by our experiences, our feelings, and by those who came before us. thank you for making this video! it made me feel a lot of things i didn't expect lol
@NukkuiskoHyvinVaiPois
@NukkuiskoHyvinVaiPois 5 ай бұрын
Those AO3 tags though... It's like 3am and I'm trying not to wake up anyone, the last one made it especially hard. Kudos to you
@penelopeandpriscillaaregay1712
@penelopeandpriscillaaregay1712 5 ай бұрын
I just wanna point out that the apathetic perspective of the movie is the point - we’re like spectators on the forest and things just happen without catering to us - it’s like a unpersonal depiction of nature. Btw, I’m really enjoying this video, I love your stuff - I also loved bambi 2 as a kid hahaha
@mewdreamer
@mewdreamer 5 ай бұрын
I really love Bambi 2. I thought that the concept of exploring Bambi's relationship with his father and processing the loss of his mother was really good. A midquel or prequel usually aren't too interesting for me, but it felt like there was a good amount of room for a more natural expansion. I love the notion that there are ghosts in this movie, from both the original movie's voice actors and hearing Bambi's mothers last words again. It's such a cool way to describe how grief itself can be haunting and present all around you. There is weight to the scene from the original movie and if I had watched it when I was younger and/or pop culture hadn't overplayed the death of Bambi's mother, it might have been more emotionally effective for me than it was. I also like the songs from Bambi 2. The more pop music soundtrack may not fit it entirely, but I think it works. I often listen to The First Sign of Spring when spring starts.
@dannypalin9583
@dannypalin9583 5 ай бұрын
@@mewdreamer Here's a genuinely cool detail that this video made me realise. The Great Prince tells Bambi to move on. His mother's not coming back. Never mention her again. And it's seen as cowardly. It's retconned that Ronno, the stag whom Bambi fights for Faline when they're grown up, actually met them when they were kids and was a standard bully: 50% Gary Oak, 50% Draco Malfoy. He boasts about how he not only saw Man, but ambushed him. Come the climax, Ronno goads Bambi into fighting him, and their tussle causes Mena to get caught in a snare. The hounds are fast approaching, which means that Man is close behind. Mena tells Bambi and Ronno to run away and save themselves. Ronno immediately bails out, screaming for his mother. Bambi is about to run, when Mena inadvertently echoes his mother's last words: "Don’t look back. Keep running!" In a sense, it's also a throwback to his father's sentiment to look forward. What does Bambi do? He ignores Mena's pleas and draws the dogs away, saving her life. Ronno, the villain, followed the advice to run away and is exposed as a coward. Bambi confronted his past and it paid off.
@SusanTheBee
@SusanTheBee 5 ай бұрын
I was also obsessed with Bambi 2 when I was young and that scene with the deer call sounding like Bambi's mom would always put a pit in my stomach. Like, it was horror movie level wrong and fucked up in the middle of this cute movie about a deer 😢
@bones1825
@bones1825 5 ай бұрын
Fictional stories are how we as humans confront heavy topics such as death in a completely safe way. Seeing Bambi's mother die, seeing Mufasa die, upset me as a child, yes, but they didn't actually HURT me. Has everyone collectiely forgotten that children can experience ACTUAL REAL LIFE TRAUMA such as losing a parent, and that they deserve to see their grief or pain reflected in the films they see. Adults too, for that matter. God I hate modern popular cinema, they've all forgotten why stories matter in the first place. ANyway great video! :D
@WeeLassReacts
@WeeLassReacts 5 ай бұрын
The "I Ship It" At the end with bambi and Ronno though.... hooooo boy LOL!!!! 😅
@zpydd_
@zpydd_ 5 ай бұрын
hit me like a flashbang
@PlaguedReview
@PlaguedReview 5 ай бұрын
I’m bouta yap, so bear with me. I remember being utterly unsettled by Bambi’s mother’s sudden and eerie voice as a child. As I kid I was well aware that she died and yet it gave me an odd tiny sense of hope that was overshadowed by that unsettling fear it threw upon me. It didn't sound like her, but it was her voice. I didn't see her body, yet the gunshot and sound of said body dropping to the ground was enough to know that she didn't make it. And yet, I still managed to doubt what I saw as a kid because of the lack of closure. Rewatching the sequel now, it’s easy to understand how children and most people will conjure up possibilities of past loved ones dying if not given enough closure. As you mentioned, Lion King gave us closure for death while Bambi didn't. Apart from loving both original movies and sequels as a kid, I gotta give them credit for adding to what closure can look like. Simba had a good chunk of closure yet still suffered from PTSD, which the sequel lets us explore, eventually giving him that small piece he was missing by learning from the past and allowing himself to properly look ahead at the future and acknowledge that change is necessary to move on. Bambi didn't have closure, leaving him feeling lost and far too hopeful as a fawn, which is eventually resolved once both he and his father take a moment to acknowledge that it’s okay to look back on the past and reflect on it. Disney sequels don't have the best reputation. But sometimes there's a gem or two, even if they have a few chips in them.
@normanclatcher
@normanclatcher 4 ай бұрын
Dead-on. And if I may contribute one more oddly-welcome example: "Cinderella III: A Twist in Time" does it right, too. A postmodern deconstruction worth reveling in. It correctly points out how 'Prince Charming' did something ridiculous and where that came from. Gives Cinderella better agency _against_ the villainous, petty, and *_unsalvageable_* entitlement of the Tremaines... minus Anastasia.
@KaminoKatie
@KaminoKatie Ай бұрын
@@normanclatcher Not to mention giving Charming's father sympathetic elements and motivations
@F_NerdShark
@F_NerdShark 5 ай бұрын
15:53 Okay the part where he hears his mother’s voice and comes out into the meadow was one of my favorite points of most children’s movies - it was so incredibly unsettling
@angelictofu
@angelictofu 5 ай бұрын
Oh my god finally someone else who also shared the inexplicable obsession with Bambi II. My and my best friend watched it together countless times when we were maybe 7? We also watched the original, so the two movies blend together in my mind. The scene of Bambi nuzzling a rock stuck with me for so long
@boowind4432
@boowind4432 5 ай бұрын
So glad someone is talking about this movie! This movie holds such a special place in my heart. To this day my mom can’t watch it because it was the movie that was constantly put on the tv for me, my siblings, and cousins over the days when she and my aunts went through their grandparents belongings after their grandma died. Even now the song There Is Life makes me cry every time I hear it
@TheRealFlurrin
@TheRealFlurrin 5 ай бұрын
I never forgot about Gobo. It's really crazy to have that story, that I read so young, reframed with adult understanding. If you did choose to cover the book I would be ecstatic.
@harleyquinn5774
@harleyquinn5774 4 ай бұрын
I was so glad Bambi II happened. The natural grieving process of the death of a parent needs to be acknowledged and processed, not just for the child but for the other parent as well.
@collegemaster5683
@collegemaster5683 4 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Most deer are polygamous. But the specific subspecies of deer Bambi and his father are (in the original book) are one of the few who are monogamous, meaning Bambi's parents were mates for life. So it's not just Bambi grieving over his mother, but the Great Prince and his mate, which could be humanized as a widower grieving and being slightly triggered over the topic of his tragically deceased wife.
@NukeOTron
@NukeOTron 5 ай бұрын
That's okay. Most people don't realize there were eight minutes after Old Yeller got put down, much less Fess Parker being in it, and the ending playing that "Best Dog-Gone Dog in the West" song while his other dog is happy as can be. I always felt Bambi II felt weird in a post-Land Before Time and post-Lion King world, because I kept quoting those two films back at this one. Still, a fascinating film to watch.
@namelessnavnls8060
@namelessnavnls8060 4 ай бұрын
Man. What a good movie... *"LET'S SING A GAY LITTLE SING SO-"*
@lemonbutternoodles
@lemonbutternoodles 5 ай бұрын
bambi always made me cry, i sobbed everything it came on, even before the scene.
@e-122psi3
@e-122psi3 5 ай бұрын
Bambi 2 feels like a whole film made on the 'Mandella Effect' of the original, that whole image of it being this cute heartwrenching little cartoon revolved around a poor baby deer that lost its mother. Though similar to you, I find myself....liking it. Some parts a fair lot. I think switching the narrative style with Bambi 2 was maybe unintentional, but effective in making it a unique companion piece of the original. The first Bambi, like many early Disney projects, is art and ambience driven, hence the fleeting nature of events such as the infamous death, while the second Bambi switches it around and is incredibly character driven, recontextualising everything about the first into an actual arc with its world and characters. I feel like while Disney's Bambi has been iconic for decades, it is the midquel that made many enjoy his personality and journey. The original is endearing, but I wouldn't call him a compelling protagonist, he's designed to be the animal version of an audience surrogate. Basically if you find any Bambi fanfics they're almost certainly built around the midquel's narrative to some level. I feel like it maybe would have worked better to have released it with its production title however 'Bambi and the Great Prince', it feels more accurate in what the film is about, rather than something that is meant to be held up 1:1 with the original film with 'Bambi 2'. It is its own weird little thing, as charming as that itself can be.
@TabbyAbby
@TabbyAbby 5 ай бұрын
I honestly view the Bambi film as a child’s first introduction to empathy, particularly empathy towards animals. Animals may not express emotions in the same way we do but that doesn’t mean they can’t get scared, lonely, lost, confused and in this case, sad. I think it’s pretty impressive that Disney managed to do that especially during a time where animals, especially wild animals, weren’t treasured or appreciated, as for Bambi 2, I really loved it! It gave a good message of grief and how to deal with it 🌻
@RooneyToony
@RooneyToony 5 ай бұрын
Your videos are always so well edited. I would love to hear more about the book Bambi in another video. “I ship it” I’m screaming
@The_Sin_Squad
@The_Sin_Squad 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! And I'm glad you caught that last bit lol...I've never been the same since I saw that fan art
@goroakechi6126
@goroakechi6126 5 ай бұрын
Oh my god, TWO SIN SQUAD VIDS IN TWO MONTHS IT’S A MIRACLE
@mon0dy555
@mon0dy555 5 ай бұрын
My parents bought a copy of Bambi 2, but not the first movie. So as I result I had what was pretty much a puzzle piece of another story, without the rest of the puzzle. Something about that really gave my memories on this movie a very haunted quality. Especially the chasing ghosts scene.
@C7PHEROUS
@C7PHEROUS 5 ай бұрын
A way I think one can also view the disturbing transition from his mother's death to the birds singing is a way to signify how the world moves on. The world doesn't know of the deep loss, the world simply keeps moving forward, and yet you are stuck within that very moment, unable to move forward.
@normanclatcher
@normanclatcher 4 ай бұрын
It isn't so. The world *does* know of Deep Loss, just never goes deep enough within _itself_ to recognize how and why it all happens as it does. Those _with_ the ache simply must not let it show, with respect to the preservation of innocence in those _without_ that self-same sense and understanding of inner loss. ...no one gets out unscathed tho.
@C7PHEROUS
@C7PHEROUS 4 ай бұрын
@@normanclatcher Of course, no one ever does. However, what I was referring to here was that the world keeps going. Society moves forward; nothing stops, especially over such personal loss.
@normanclatcher
@normanclatcher 4 ай бұрын
@@C7PHEROUS "I'll stop the world and melt with you..."
@Zephyeran
@Zephyeran 5 ай бұрын
By about 4:20 I'm sat here thinking That's kind of the beauty of that awkward transition.. It's like life. You might get that moment to grieve, but.. life doesn't stop for every death, it keeps going. As you sit and sob, mourning a loss, someone else celebrates their child being born, as you graduate, someone is lost on the street, trying to get a job and to figure things out, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction in a sense. It sort of leaves you in that shock, in that reality, and to me at least, it.. reminded me that not everyone gets that time, and how important it is to be that support someone may need if they want you to be, to do what you can to keep them from bottling that sort of thing for too long. It's okay to miss someone, to hurt, to grieve. You have to feel it now and then, but you also have to not drown in it, and it's such a rough balance to strike.. I know it's clunky and awkward, a remnant of figuring out family movies in all likelyhood, but. You can always find meaning in art, even if that meaning wasn't what the artist intended, and it can be just as impactful and important to you as the intended message is to others and the artist themself ^^
@ratter1023
@ratter1023 5 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, I love the commentary and how deep it is but woohoo at 7:59 send me into histerics 😂😂😂😂😂
@PJ-Creativity
@PJ-Creativity 5 ай бұрын
I was also obsessed with the second movie, I’m glad I wasn’t the only one lol.
@lakegroce685
@lakegroce685 5 ай бұрын
I forgot that The Great Prince was voiced by Patrick Steward!! Oh man what a gift it was to have Captain Picard’s fursona in a direct to DVD Disney movie. Edit: I’m calling BS on the whole “ Parents and children are more sensitive these days”. Cartoons tailored to children nowadays have death and trauma up the wazoo. Because the people making them aren’t cowards and know kids aren’t stupid.
@EmeraldSands
@EmeraldSands 5 ай бұрын
Yeah plenty of children’s media nowadays still has plenty of death and other difficult topics. Warrior Cats is an extremely popular children’s book series with many violent deaths, and horrific plotlines like a man who felt so entitled to the woman who friendzoned him he attempted to murder her father and her children, and years after his death manipulates a teenager into helping him possess her husband’s body in order to destroy everything she loves. Kids can handle more intense stuff than they’re given credit for.
@malachitep4276
@malachitep4276 5 ай бұрын
More accurately it'd be Corporations and advertisers are more sensitive these days.
@Cicada11011
@Cicada11011 5 ай бұрын
I love how you bring up the fact that the mothers body was never shown, because I remember it too… but for some reason my memory was never snowy, I remember her lying in the grass while Bambi stood over her. I do have adhd tho so my memory will never be trustable. But still, I was very confused about the opening when you didn’t use the (nonexistent) scene of Bambi standing over his mothers body.💀
@Chaeley
@Chaeley 5 ай бұрын
If you hadn't already gotten my sub at that unhinged Spring Song transition, you would've gotten it at HURR DEE DURR: CUTE DEER GO WHEEE. I had to pause the video because I was starting to cry from laughter. I am so excited to check out the rest of your catalogue.
@Goldendoodlegamer11
@Goldendoodlegamer11 5 ай бұрын
I’m really glad Bambi II exists - I think setting it between events in the first movie is perfect for a story about grief and how it can stop you from moving forward. It feels haunted, but also hopeful and warm. “The Great Prince teaches Bambi how to survive, and Bambi teaches the Prince how to live” is such a good line. I also just have to say how much I love the editing! (1:24, 7:25, 7:57-8:04, and 16:46 ESPECIALLY, dear lord my SIDES)
@finchvink
@finchvink 5 ай бұрын
Very happy to see a video about Bambi exploring the movie without just being "mom ded"... it's such a pretty movie with some of THE prettiest art I know of, and it saddens me when people only remember that. Though, you explained a good reason why it is such a pervasive bit of knowledge, and I can hardly blame people for it. It still hits me in the feelings as well. I'm also very fond of the book so I was very happy to see that being discussed as well, and I would absolutely adore to hear more of your thoughts of it and the movie(s).
@demonte_writes4906
@demonte_writes4906 5 ай бұрын
GOD! just hearing Bambi's mom shouting at him to run makes me tear up! The muisc and the memories to tye movie are enough to make me cry
@stardust948.
@stardust948. 5 ай бұрын
13:34 That primal scream after quitting your retail job 👏👏👏
@systemsentry
@systemsentry 5 ай бұрын
Would love to see a follow-up video about Walt’s rather interesting take on Bambi: A Life in the Woods by Felix Salten. Great video as always!
@XeaRae
@XeaRae 5 ай бұрын
Had no idea there was Bambi 2 filmed and it had midquel format. I read Bambi and Bambi’s children as a child. I think Bambi’s children left a bigger impact on me. It’s a very heavy read.
@water_hat4389
@water_hat4389 5 ай бұрын
10:16 the f^cling cas van pol clip took me out I was NOT expecting it
@ryxan6968
@ryxan6968 5 ай бұрын
What happend to better sad then dead? Old Disney storys where intended to prepare kids for reality, nowadays Disney doesn't want kids to learn hard lessons in a health way, but let them face our at times brutal realtiy, after linving there hole live in a fantasy... That's disturbing.
@ThatLeadZebra
@ThatLeadZebra 5 ай бұрын
I always saw the sharp turn from the death of Bambi's mother to the chipper song birds being a mirror to the brutal nature of... nature. How animals live and die brutally but the world continues along with the seasons. Deer particularly, while beautiful animals, will stare blandly as another is shot beside them and then continue to graze as if nothing happened. On another line of thinking, I absolutely adore Bambi II.
@TheWary0ne-vs3xt
@TheWary0ne-vs3xt 5 ай бұрын
got an actual chill watching bambi's mother's final scene; got that hit's harder than when i was younger
@e-122psi3
@e-122psi3 5 ай бұрын
I like how Bambi 2 has cameo use of 'Love Is A Song' from the first film, but it's kept exclusively for the dream with his mother, while the main bulk of the film has its own leitmotif, titled 'Bambi and the Great Prince' in the OST (with the opening notes having some resemblance to the image song 'Through Your Eyes' from the end credits). Almost like, that was his and his mother's special song, and this one is his and father's. Even outside the scenes with either parent, both songs tend to be utilised for emotions Bambi learned from each of them. Love Is A Song was used in many scenes in the first film with Faline or when he's looking down at his kids, representing (predictably) love and passion he gained from his mother. Bambi and the Great Prince/Through Your Eyes meanwhile 'powers up' through at points during the climax against the dogs, where Bambi is showing his bravery and insight taught by his father.
@mysryuza
@mysryuza 5 ай бұрын
Omg, I’m so glad people are FINALLY talking about the midquel. I legit grew up on this movie and the first one and had a straight up fixation on the series (I still remember having a female crush around 1st grade or so and daydreamed a similar Bambi and Faline romance scene). I still remember drawing Bambi multiple times and other aspects of the series stuck with me to this day. I liked looking at the concept art in the bonus feature thing I think was in Disc 2 (the copy I had contained Disc 1 and 2). It was amazing that real deer were used as references for the designs and movement. Because of already losing a father very damn early in my life (when I was 2), the mom’s death scene didn’t scar me, but it was indeed memorable. What I love seeing as I looked back at the second movie is that it showed how Bambi’s mom’s death not only affected Bambi, but also his own father in a more visual way, especially a male character. I feel that well-written single father characters are more overlooked than well-written mothers that live past a main character’s adolescence stage in anime… or it could be the other way around or equally. I believe that the Great Prince held a level of guilt in not being able to warn his mate sooner or being there to save her, given how close he held her in his heart. He wants to move forward and stay strong, but he needed to understand about acceptance and being allowed to grieve. This movie was the first time I learned about deer calls, the thing about putting things in the past alongside TLK2, the flight response of danger, and how badass the Great Prince was. Surprisingly I didn’t realize that Bambi turning around and luring the dogs in a different direction could be seen as “facing the past” I’m surprised you didn’t talk much about Ronno since uhhhhh yeah he had some fangirls like a decade back. Then again he was used simply to be a bully whose lack of awareness literally bit him on the nose.
@artistic-izzy-gd
@artistic-izzy-gd 5 ай бұрын
Funny how I didn't care all that much for Bambi 2 as a kid, only for it to become a long-term hyperfixation of mine since I was 16, what in the ever loving hell??? This video actually gave me even more of a perspective that I didn't explore before: that of "never looking back, only ahead" and the way the concept was played with, in fact I dare call it a motif of sorts. (and on a side note, I'm not afraid of being the only person in the world to defend the cliff scene for what it is, nevermind the obvious death fakeout - it's about the character development of the Prince, the genuine emotion, and the fact that it's the first time in the whole movie that Bambi calls him "Dad" directly and the Prince using the same words Bambi's mom used to comfort him in the dream: I'm here... 🥺😭) Excuse me for my tangent 😅 Been waiting for this video for a while, keep up the neat work!
@Lolbitdrangonmaster
@Lolbitdrangonmaster 5 ай бұрын
Finding Nemo's start left a mark. It's faded, though i used to see the dark, abyss paired with the anemone when the TV was off.
@Firebrace
@Firebrace 4 ай бұрын
Finding Dory is genuinely the largest disappointment to my childhood;; I apparently had finding Nemo played so often at night that I was wearing down the vhs, but didn't care because I had memorized the movie by then. Years later I'm a child with access to the internet and find that they are making plans of a sequel to my favorite childhood movie. I was writing fanfiction in my head years before I ever even knew what fanfiction was . . . But it all centered around Coral and the children (Coral Jr's and Marlin Jr's). I lived in perpetual excitement for the future hyping up the greatest family reunion and conclusion to the first movie ever in my head. Only to see trailers and watch as it's just . . . Nothing about the first movie. It's a fine kids movie, and my disappointment is largely influenced by my expectations, but doesn't take away that I will forever have this void in my soul.
@Lolbitdrangonmaster
@Lolbitdrangonmaster 4 ай бұрын
@Firebrace my sister wore down Ella enchanted. And I wore down all 4 discs of dragons riders of berk parts 1 and 2 and defenders of berk parts 1 and 2.
@Lolbitdrangonmaster
@Lolbitdrangonmaster 4 ай бұрын
​@Firebrace I have a question: How exactly did coral survive in your hypothetical finding Coral?
@Firebrace
@Firebrace 4 ай бұрын
@Lolbitdrangonmaster The barracuda tried to fit in through the front entrance and she took the kids out the back entrance. A lot of them probably wouldn't have survived and she wouldn't have been able to carry them all, but I also was a kid that didn't think about that. But in the scene where Marlin checks around for his wife and kids, he takes a glance out the back opening of the little cave and it's all empty ocean. I imagined she took them down and it was similar to that trench that Dory and Marlin go to later in the movie with the anglerfish. It goes deep enough to get dark and get lost. If I think about it too much it really makes no sense, but to my mind back then the scene was vague enough to allow me to imagine them all alive and safe.
@Firebrace
@Firebrace 4 ай бұрын
Holy . . . . I just rewatched that opening scene from Nemo to discover two things. First that I completely made up a back entrance in my head and misinterpreted the scene of Marlin going in and out of the same entrance somehow as him going through the cave. Second, the anemone they lived in was actually at the drop off and would have dropped down pretty far like I imagined. It also completely recontextualizes the entire scene of Marlin hearing his son is taking a field trip to the drop off entirely for me. I never made that connection as a kid! I just thought that he thought it was a dangerous place, not realizing it was the exact type of place that his wife and kids were probably eaten at.
@audjusushi
@audjusushi 5 ай бұрын
Bambi is one of my favorite Disney movies for the artistry alone. Bambi ran so the Lion King could crawl imo.
@jacobcox4565
@jacobcox4565 5 ай бұрын
The only way I would ever accept a live action adaptation of Bambi is if it was more faithful to the original book. I'd love to see how they'd do the scene where the Great Prince shows Bambi a dead human to prove that He is not all powerful and is still subject to nature's rule.
@mistermuse9543
@mistermuse9543 4 ай бұрын
man that'd actually be kind of cool. they sure as shit would never ever ever do it, of course, but it did make me yearn for the universe where the cg bambi won't be watered down backwash of the original movie lol. also made me imagine a watership down/plague dogs-esque adaptation of the book.. that'd also probably be neat.
@jacobcox4565
@jacobcox4565 4 ай бұрын
@@mistermuse9543 I bet if Disney did a live action remake, they'd make the hunter that killed Bambi's mom more of a character and at least half the movie will be focused on him. They would also cast Akwafina as a pheasant or some other bird.
@VixeyFrost
@VixeyFrost 5 ай бұрын
I was OBSESSED with Bambi II as a kid, and honestly I still love it. I have lots of good memories of watching it at my grandparents’ house. It’s just really cute and sweet, and I can’t help but love it. It doesn’t have to be peak cinema or anything, I just find it enjoyable. The Bambi films are also basically the entire reason why deer are my favorite animal as an adult now, ngl. They just made deer appear like such elegant animals, and they’re very pretty. Plus I love the spots that fawns have. Overall, idgaf what anyone says about Bambi II, it’s still one of my favorite Disney movies :)
@Leroy629
@Leroy629 5 ай бұрын
Your unintentional (?) coverage of the DTV sequels continues~ Besides The Lion King, Bambi was a movie I watched a lot as a young kid, but like the prior film, when it came to the death scenes I wasn't really affected. Like you were, I'm sure someone told me ahead of time that these things were going to happen, but it wasn't until I was older that I could appreciate these scenes in their entirety. Bambi II is probably up there as one of the better of these because 1) it's really sweet 2) genuinely funny at times 3) you could tell everyone involved with this wanted to do this justice as much as they could (thought it always wigs me out to see the characters moving in ways that that the original's restrained character animation didn't usually implement. THAT BEING SAID, it looks good, Disneytoon Studios Sydney deserves all the props). (Me shrinking into my shell) b-but I like First Sign of Spring? Nah, I understand. There is Life is the standout by far...for me lol As always your editing and jokes are top notch. Laughed multiple times and could really feel that primal scream of quitting your retail job; it had just the right amount of "yay! wait this complicates things". The world we live in. For some reason I thought that Bambi remake was axed? I could be wrong, oh no wait, Sarah Palley left and it's still in production. Damn! God forbid kids or adults feel sad or experience anything above their resting heart rate while watching a family movie.
@The_Sin_Squad
@The_Sin_Squad 5 ай бұрын
Yes, as a kid this film was on constant rotation at my house! And my friend also loves The First Sign of Spring; I hope I didn't make you feel bad! Sometimes I develop comical levels of disdain for a song over time lol, but that's totally subjective on my part. And re: retail-YOU GET IT! YOU UNDERSTAND! I am free but also very scared! Wish me luck 🫡
@Leroy629
@Leroy629 5 ай бұрын
@@The_Sin_Squad Nah, don't worry about it, you're fine. It's that knee-jerk that I think everyone has that's like "oh, they're saying something bad about this thing I like. that means they don't like me". Bananas, but brains are silly sometimes. I'm not too wedded to the song, so the joke made me laugh. I wish your friend a bearded Robert Redford nod of confirmation xD And I wish you all the luck one is capable of wishing.
@frenchiesottises8193
@frenchiesottises8193 5 ай бұрын
It's lowkey crazy how almost everyone thought the movie actually showed Bambi's mother's corpse, but, while it was in the storyboards, it was never there. Goes to show how our brains were so desperate in receiving some kind of closure.
@smolson8471
@smolson8471 5 ай бұрын
i love you so much for this video, finally FINALLY someone not only appreciates Bambi 2 as much as i do but also has made an obsessive video analysis dedicated to the topic. This genuinely fed my parched soul. The editing and jokes in this vid were *chef's kiss.* Would love to see you talk about the book as I've read it but would want to hear your perspective on it. Gonna go watch your other video's now, you've earned a subscriber
@asleepyb0i400
@asleepyb0i400 5 ай бұрын
I honestly really like the lack of resolution for the mother’s death in the original movie. It’s eerie, haunting, and much like life doesn’t have a rhyme or reason. Sometimes we don’t find closure when something happens. We simply move on. I still love the 2nd movie though. I was obsessed with it as a little kid.
@cheshirewolf1574
@cheshirewolf1574 4 ай бұрын
I for one REALLY LOVE the blurry backgrounds with the hunter because it adds to the almost dreamlike illusion of his mother calling for him. Its almost liminal in a way. I really love it
@miah4817
@miah4817 5 ай бұрын
i hate how modern kids shows refuse to treat children as anymore than sensitive porcelain dolls. The reason kids back then were able to confront such a concept is because kids are able to understand wayy more than alot of things today give them credit for.
@aaasht2606
@aaasht2606 5 ай бұрын
i find the disturbance on how easily his mother is forgotten about really good. because thats how life is, the living beings live on, not allways theres closure
@Chihirolee3
@Chihirolee3 4 ай бұрын
For the direct to DVD era of Disney content, I put Bambi II as the best they put out. Doing all they can to emulate the original backgrounds, the movement in animation of deer (which isn't easy), the voice acting being more than just shoehorning in celebrities for the sake of itself, the story itself addressing the original in a way that is respectful to what grief does to different family members.....it's flawed, it's a bit corny at times, but it had so much more heart and care put into it way more then the cash grabs of the other direct to DVD films, that in my opinion, makes it a movie worth respecting. What it adds to the original, and how it actually makes 1942's Bambi relevant in the 2000's, is a testament to what I feel, is a midquel done right. You won't lose anything of the original film by watching Bambi II, but you will be missing out on seeing what Bambi II has to offer if you don't watch it...
@cambossx1287
@cambossx1287 4 ай бұрын
19:30 this was the last place i expected to hear audio from Hellsing Ultimate abridged, but I'm definitely happy for it
@JPNHN602
@JPNHN602 5 ай бұрын
loved this video!!! the original bambi is one of my favorite disney films, and i think the sequel is cool i had a blu-ray for the original bambi, which features a “making of” segment where they discuss what it was like to animate the deer. in it, they talk at length about how they disliked drawing bambi’s mom (i think it was because she was so serene compared to the other deer and they didn’t know how to make her act, like she doesn’t prance around) and tried to keep her out of frame whenever possible. i like how we interpret the hard cut to spring as an avoidance of grief, but the animators probably didn’t show the body because they were sick of drawing her
@KaminoKatie
@KaminoKatie 5 ай бұрын
22:45 the live-action remake actually got cancelled due to Disney's Live Action division re-structuring
@emmas.m
@emmas.m 5 ай бұрын
The "subscribe for more psychic damage" screencap with the fanart of bambi and his mother singlehandedly made me subscribe to you. Well done.
@skookiecat_29
@skookiecat_29 2 ай бұрын
16:46 NO BECAUSE IT FITS SO WELL Now I need to see Gil telling Oz “a prince does not woo hoo”
@alisiahillman
@alisiahillman 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this. I love your humor and as someone with tremendous loss weirdly connected with these movies, grew up to embrace humor to comfort my pain. Bambi 1, my mom was murdered in a canal when I was 10. Never saw her body. We lost her ashes. Bambi 2, stayed up late watching the rented movie, that morning was informed my grandmother died in hospice. We had a 2 for 1 funeral for her and my mother. My Grandmother raised me and my Aunt is my defacto mother figure. I never really watched Bambi after that but I absolutely love the message. Thank you again. ❤
@mangoz333
@mangoz333 5 ай бұрын
i remember begging my grandma to watch bambi 2 with me, and she had seen bambi when she was my age at the time. its one of my core memories us sitting together and crying. one of my comfort films, but i bet it hit her so much harder than me
@makomantis4261
@makomantis4261 5 ай бұрын
Please stand on as many soap boxes as you want, your videos are so consistently good and I also appreciate you continuing the thread of embracing your nostalgia for the old Disney sequels
@abigailbostic2198
@abigailbostic2198 5 ай бұрын
YES It's so nice to see someone discuss this film! I really liked it when I was younger, but it doesn't get brought up a lot in the "disney sequels that were actually pretty good" discussions. The early youtube AMV scene seems like the only place that really appreciated it lmao
@BandanaDog39
@BandanaDog39 5 ай бұрын
Please make a video on the Bambi Book. I NEED it! I’m going to read the book anyway now, your description was that enticing, and I’d love to hear your analysis. Love your videos. They’re super clever and I die laughing everytime.
@GelatinSkeleton
@GelatinSkeleton 4 ай бұрын
honestly bambi ii is really fucking goofy in places but it had a really special place in my heart. every time someone in my life dies i always think of the line they use in the dream sequence: “when a tree falls in the forest, something always comes to take its place. maybe not what was there before, but something new and wonderful, all the same.” i experienced a lot of loss and trauma when i was young and stories about animals learning not just how to survive, but how to live, always spoke to me in a way i couldn’t ever really articulate to the people around me. thanks for this lovely essay about this silly direct to home video midquel. i appreciate it immensely. ❤
@lathalassa
@lathalassa 5 ай бұрын
oh deer, a video about bambi now after shikonoko nokonoko koshitantan started airing? prepare for all the deer jokes
@robindelorenzo1120
@robindelorenzo1120 5 ай бұрын
This anime’s basically revenge for the death of Bambi’s mother
@normanclatcher
@normanclatcher 4 ай бұрын
_get _*_wasting disease'd,_*_ d'Isigny._
@NotLizzy
@NotLizzy 5 ай бұрын
Your commentary on the art style definitely helps explain the feeling of unease/uncanny I got watching this movie as a kid!
@e-122psi3
@e-122psi3 4 ай бұрын
Concerning the climax, another detail are the Great Prince's last words to Bambi before being sent away: "Being a prince means sacrifice. He must ignore his feelings, and do what is best for others. [...] And never forget. You are a prince." Bambi had spent most of the movie trying to make a well meaning transaction with his father, and then exploded at him and basically tells him he wishes he was dead when he seemingly doesn't commit to his end. The whole 'A prince does/does not do this-and-that' has basically been his father's flawed survival mantra the whole movie, but here he teaches Bambi one of the harshest and most important lessons about growing up. That sometimes you have to be a good person knowing you won't get a reward or a happy ending for it. Bambi takes this to heart, and despite his all his emotional wounds, chooses to be selfless, acting on it in the ultimate way of potentially sacrificing his life for his adoptive mother. His father's last words to him about adulthood override his mother's last ones as her baby to protect. Even more effective given the whole thing is basically instigated by Ronno, the embodiment of how DARK some individuals become if they aren't handed what they want.
@Skyehoppers
@Skyehoppers 5 ай бұрын
Was just thinking about how much I need to rewatch your Lion King 1.5 video and immediately up pops this! A gift!
@demo2823
@demo2823 5 ай бұрын
I don't really consider the cut to be that drastic. The movie was clearly divided into seasons, with sharp cuts between them, essentially making each a self contained story (something much more common than feature length plots at the time). And winter was shown to be harsh and cumulates in the death. When we cut to spring again, we return to the state of the beginning of the movie, and also it's not a consecutive spring so Bambi had time to grieve.
@Voltaradragoness
@Voltaradragoness 5 ай бұрын
This movie, meant SO much as a kid. I was and always will be extremely attached to my mother, so Disney parents deaths would just shatter me when i was little...and Bambi losing his mom was the worst for me. The idea of losing my own mom was just something i couldn't take and the sequel movie really did give me closure i didn't have before. Plus as cringe as this sounds, it was the movie that revealed to me that i could sing. The song "This is Life" was the first song i ever sung.
@normanclatcher
@normanclatcher 4 ай бұрын
That's beautiful, not cringe. ...as are you, stranger.
@Voltaradragoness
@Voltaradragoness 4 ай бұрын
@@normanclatcher Thank you, fellow kind stranger.
@iamsomeone8266
@iamsomeone8266 4 ай бұрын
I like that the film of Bambi explores this. Sometimes, we never get closure or justice. It’s horrible and it makes you sick. But as something so common it is useful to build up this skill of being able to let go and grieve. I love the film of Bambi and whilst I am also scared for the day my loved ones leave me, a film like this is allowing me to come to grips with the normality of this and yes, it does help me heal.
@jparrish6360
@jparrish6360 5 ай бұрын
I watched this movie on repeat from age 6-14, born in ‘82. I can tell you that when you watch it as a child you need that uplifting song after that blow. I think it was perfect
@thatrandomredengine9430
@thatrandomredengine9430 4 ай бұрын
I love how Disney is like “OwO death is too harsh of a topic for parents and children” Meanwhile Dreamworks: *Will show Puss having a panic attack as he fears death. Also having multiple people straight up die in comedically, gruesome ways throughout the film*
@jarekmiller4337
@jarekmiller4337 2 ай бұрын
That scene from Puss in Boots: The Last Wish was a masterpiece for how realistic and emotional it was. Dreamworks went hard with that film ❤.
@Emunah_
@Emunah_ 5 ай бұрын
Oh wow this reawakened memories. I remember as a kid I was so on edge and even scared during the scene when Bambi is lured out into the open by his "mother's" eerie voice. I realized after awhile it was a deer call since my dad taught me all about hunting and respecting animals when I was a kid. It made it even more scary.
@CroissantWithPeanutButter
@CroissantWithPeanutButter Ай бұрын
16:50 omg i didn't expect PH opening to play it just opened a pandora's box of memories in my head
@ohno_deerlady
@ohno_deerlady 4 ай бұрын
I love returning to watch Bambi when life gets to much, when I watch it I feel a sense of peace and the grief that has occurred in my life.
@reddffox
@reddffox 5 ай бұрын
As someone who was also obsessed with Bambi II as a pre-teen (and the original Bambi as a child), I APPRECIATE THIS VIDEO SO MUCH, and I'm so glad it showed up in my recommendations. Within the juvenile comedy ("a prince does not woo-hoo" + my friend and I couldn't get enough of Bambi bleating and Flower farting when they try to growl), there's real depth and pain and darkness in this movie. It was captivating.
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