Bambu P1S vs X1C - Which 3D Printer Is The Best?

[@adamchambers7502]

no stupid music, straight to the point, no benchies, engineering filament, functional part. subbed.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks! Hope my other videos don’t run you off then! We try and make content for all audiences! 👊🔥

[@TheFinalsOG]

Yes

[@Hoonipigasim]

Same!

[@flux6504]

@@LoyalMoses I definitely agree with @adamchambers7502 . this is what tinkerers and makers want. Direct to the point, no flashy music or animations, we want practical, and straightforward information. We're sick of benchies, we want real-world examples. 10/10

[@jordanbeatty244]

Autistic daydream here

[@iangeitner1983]

How does this guy only have 10k subs? This is good work here. The audio is great, the video shots are great, and the content is true. I have both printers and he is spot on. I wonder though, if the model has bodies and split into parts, the imperfection can probably be overcome using overlap on that specific part.

[@LoyalMoses]

That is very kind! Thank you very much! I'm new and working as fast as I can to bring in more subs! 💜

[@shauncoulam9978]

Very true or even run the calibration for the material / flow calibration then that way as the X1C is using Lidar to adjust flow, the P1S will have been calibrated correctly. I have re run this exact model and there were zero differences between the two. I also own many X1C and P1S machines. The P1S is phenomenal for the price point. But i agree great videos and correct information that can be recreated at home. Genuine honest reviewing.

[@ROOKTABULA]

4 months later: Over 22K. People are catching on

[@bluelightning0820]

7 months later he’s tripled his subscribers (I just subscribed) I enjoy his vids!

[@matthewthompson7012]

The enclosure for 100 bucks more saves me from failed prints due to yellow lab hair flying into my prints.

[@LoyalMoses]

Yes! It’s just so good for so cheap.

[@CodyDye-j9u]

Same bro. My golden retrievers shed like crazy

[@stephengrinaker5085]

keeps my cats at bay also. "WHY CANT I GET IN THERE!!!"

[@ruthlessluder]

​@@CodyDye-j9uPLA+ golden hair multi-filament print.

[@mathiasglaser3079]

Great to see I didn’t made a mistake with my order for a P1s with a AMS 🥳

[@LoyalMoses]

Such a good machine!!!

[@iCalendar2003]

I can sense the absolute sincerity of this comparison. Well done sir!

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you for the kind words! 💜

[@tmtjg3]

Good take on these 2 printers. I would like to see the close up of the vise grips to see the first layer issues and compare the prints. Thank you for this great insight!

[@LoyalMoses]

Noted!

[@coolbeto1512]

I love how this guy goes straight to the meat of the decision making! I’m going to buy the P1S as budget is a factor to my purchase. Thank you!

[@LoyalMoses]

AWESOME! I am so glad I could help!

[@jackbandit2164]

I only am subscribing because you didn't put stupid music in the video and got straight to the point 🤙🏿

[@Bobbyg2018]

High quality video with great content. I wish all youtubers had your audio setup - sounds terrific.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! Some of our audio falls below standards - still trying to work out how to silence printers in the studio when recording!

[@jessaminutesir]

Thank you for this video. It’s was straight to the facts. I’ve watched about half a dozen videos comparing the two and yours was the most straight forward. Thank you!

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks for that!!!

[@sassysuzy4u]

Thank you for this video. I live in a small space and actually ordered the P1S because I have a bird that I didn't want to fly into an open printer haha. It's nice to see that I made a good choice to stay with the P1 instead up the more expensive X1.

[@LoyalMoses]

Great choice and nice thinking about safety for your bird!

[@Validole]

If you have a bird, it should never be in the same room as the printer anyway, and the room should be preferably negative-pressure ventilated. Birds are ridiculously sensitive to volatile chemicals, like, say, ofdgassing from hot melting plastic

[@MemelordSupreme]

@@Validole this and definitely don't do resin around them either,

[@WreckDiver99]

I have been kicking around between the X1C and P1S. I think the X1C is getting the nod if I go with it, mainly because I am planning to print in PC, Nylon and such. Yes, I can upgrade the P1S with the hardened gears, and nozzle, etc., but I'm kind of done with the "Tinkering" aspect of the hobby after nearly 15 years of doing it (yea, started in 2009 when the Mendel designs were released). I'm at the point where my Ender3 and CR-6SE are just not up to the task, and require me too much time to mess with after thousands and thousands of hours of print time. it is time for a new machine. I'll put these with my home built Mendel from 2009, and my i3 home built unit. Forever to be displayed in the shop. :)

[@LoyalMoses]

That is the top of the line machine on the market right now! Wow!

[@DormantIdeasNIQ]

As a noob... will be my first 3Dprinter, I am inclined to understand that you are exposing this correctly... so as I am vacillating between the P1S and the X1 Carbon, the answer I need to close my decision... The X1 C, in terms of its flexibility and output capability and variety, does it produce ALL its functionality if used standalone(NO CLOUD, ZERO CLOUD except for updates) ? What would I lose using it standalone that I would not care about... or care about?

[@karlloeffler1755]

​@@LoyalMoses Still haven't pulled the trigger. Personally I need build space for some designs. They aren't TALL, they are just LARGE in surface area. One print is for a bike chain guard. 260mm in diameter, but only 10mm tall. I could divide it into 4 pieces and do a glue job, but I don't want to deal with that. I even looked at building a Voron, but now? Probably not. Again, I'm so over the tinkering side of it having built a few machines from nuts/bolts/printed parts, etc.

[@karlloeffler1755]

@@DormantIdeasNIQ You are CLOUD BASED for more than your firmware with the Bambu. Matter of fact, more and more are forcing you to deal with the cloud to print in some way shape or form. If you don't want to deal with potential issues with using the cloud, stick with basic printers like an Ender3 (though I think those too now connect to the cloud for print management). Personally my 6SE and Ender3 are hooked to Octoprint, but I have everything closed off so it can't be used from outside the shop network I have. I'm the only one that has access to that network (or cares to) in the house. I doubt my wife even knows we have a "shop" network. LOL.

[@DormantIdeasNIQ]

@@karlloeffler1755 Thanks everyone for all your answers! I would go with the Prusa before I even get near an Ender(bad bad reviews on Enders)

[@battousaid1]

Seeing all the amazing prints from a bambu printer makes me really want to save up for one with the ams

[@LoyalMoses]

I know! These machines are just crazy good!

[@Glebiys]

P1S with AMS is $950. This is amazing value! I have X1C with AMS and plan to get P1S with AMS, to replace my 3 years old, fully working but slow Prusa MK3S, at my printing farm. My Prusa MK3S printed around 150KGs of PETG filament, without any problems and barely any maintenance.

[@ZFGFZDGDFG]

the ams is cool but i haven't really used it too much(more than on color on a print) after you do a few cool prints with it the bonus wares off as you have to purge nearly as much as what you are printing. it is however very useful for say you wanna print petg one print then the next you wanna do abs it is so easy to switch just a click of a button in the slicer. i think unless you are going to use the multiple colors a lot its not really worth it

[@mattchumoore4214]

​@@ZFGFZDGDFG I see it being mainly useful with support interfacing with a soluble filament

[@BourbonCreations]

Using your affiliate link now to purchase my P1S. I really appreciate your video on the printers, and the Polymaker videos are as equally helpful. I'll be using your affiliate links there as well. Glad I can give something back after all the information you created. Things have aligned so much for my business this last month, and as I prepare new content, 3d printing will have a place in addition to the CNC and lasers in the shop that we use.

[@LoyalMoses]

I am so happy to hear this, congratulations on the growth and potential! Also, thank you for using my links, that is incredibly kind! I can't wait to hear how everything progresses!

[@tontweer]

6:03 this is the exact sentence I was looking for thanks!

[@LoyalMoses]

Glad I could help!

[@aerocreative]

Great video! Watching this after having gotten a P1S and I’m agreeing with your sentiments

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! And congratulations! That’s such a good machine!

[@BillLogan-k8l]

I posted this on your 23 machine buy or not buy video..... I just wanted to post this again here only because your talking P1S. Loved the video and looking forward to more of your expertise. I brought a Bambu Labs PSI Combo with the AMS and had it all up and running within the 15 minutes from unpacking the box to printing my first print with 2 minutes to spare just like Bambu Labs advertised. I started printing everything from poop containers, fridgets, signs, filament spools, and tons of other stuff along with a rack to hold up to 66 boxes/rolls of Bambu and Sunlu filament in their boxes. I've never owned or operated a 3 D Printer before. I've learned so much from trial and error with things like heater head temp changes to unclogging the head, changing build plate temps to help different filaments stick better or not. I printed off LED Risers in order to install more lighting in the print chamber. It's great and I love it. Thanks for all your help with your videos..... FYI, I've had the printer since the last week in Nov 2023 and as of today Feb 2024 I've used a little over 18 rolls of filament, printed hundreds of pieces and have 752 hours of print time on the P1S. I am proud to say that with that 752 hours of print time I've only had 3 issues with it and was able to solve those issues within a few hours. The P1S has been running almost continuously since I got it. I am definitely addicted to it. Now that I've practiced for the past 5 weeks almost non-stopped I'm thinking it's time to find a way to make a little money with this beautiful machine. Any ideas would be helpful..... Thanks again for all that you do......

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you for this message and the other as well! I really appreciate you taking the time to share with me and I’m also super happy that you are enjoying your machine! Are you in our discord?!

[@gbblarggb]

Amazing video and explanation I immediately subbed

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you!!!

[@zurieledwards6188]

You had me at "it's just you and the slicer"

[@LoyalMoses]

Haha

[@JoanneHastie]

As a former R&D engineer who spent lots of time with 3D printers and mostly worked on structural designs. I am keen to get the X1C for my art studio even though it will be overkill. Then your video came in my feed... I will mostly be using it for art studio brackets or mountain bike brackets. So I was on the fence if to go P1S or X1C. But if they can both do ABS just fine I will get the P1S. If I need more printer, then that will be a great problem to have. Thanks for this video!

[@damian-offthegrid4092]

I have an X1 and if I’m not mistaken..in this video you are running a textured bed. In which the flow calibration does not work with it…so this would effect this comparison?

[@LoyalMoses]

Yes, you are right, we caught that after the upload, and are doing another video.

[@zalatanyy]

​@@LoyalMoseswhere is update about it? Would love to see it

[@The3DJonas]

I can't wait to buy my p1s next week :D

[@LoyalMoses]

How exciting! You are going to LOVE it!

[@The3DJonas]

@@LoyalMoses yesss!!!!

[@abloun1575]

Can the P1S with the necessary upgrades print Polycarbonate and nylon just as well as the X1C? Really leaning towards the P1S after this video. It says its capable on the website.

[@LoyalMoses]

Absolutely! The enclosure makes it possible, and an upgraded extruder gear and nozzle are all that is necessary to add to your order. You’ll want to make sure you have a good bed adhesive, just like what we use on our industrial machines. Vision Miner NanoPolymer works incredibly well. I can’t recommend it more!

[@abloun1575]

@@LoyalMoses Thank you!

[@cutsleeve117]

the price diff between the P1S and X1C is literally a grand in my currency, this comparison makes my upcoming decision a no-brainer!

[@LoyalMoses]

Yikes.

[@vaughanza]

Thanks for a awesome video, I am in two minds as to which on to get as well. My question has the X1Carbon improved a lot since it was launched or since this review. Has the Lidar firmware been improved etc. Basically a big improvement ? Thanks

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! The X1C is definitely the better machine, but only if you want those more complicated filaments.

[@petertwiss356]

Thanks for the video it's exactly what I was looking for

[@LoyalMoses]

You are so welcome!

[@Joe_Galaska]

Nice to see more and more of your productions on KZbin. Keep up the good work!

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you Joe! 😊

[@peadookie]

The issue I have is deciding between the P1S and the Qidi X-Max. You give up a well polished product for a heated chamber and build volume. Would love to hear people’s thoughts. First printer.

[@LoyalMoses]

I would choose the P1S for the AMS potential, and the heated chamber if your printing needs require that.

[@CryptikDesign]

Thanks for the side by side. Reallly helps making a decision as a first time shopper for a starter printer

[@LoyalMoses]

You bet! If you have questions, just ask! 💜

[@sewing_machines]

Hello, The Bambu Lab P1S can print nylon and carbon with some add accesories? Thank you for your review, was amazing!

[@LoyalMoses]

Absolutely! Grab a hardened steel nozzle and hardened gears from them and upgrade! About a 20 minute upgrade.

[@geezlix]

Hey LM, just found your channel and pounded through some of your latest videos. I really appreciate the content and your take on some of the newest printers out there. I'm curious, for someone that only prints PLA and PETG 90% of the time, what would you recommend between the X1C and the P1P? I'm interested in speed, AMS, and not having to worry about leveling. Would love your input, thanks!

[@LoyalMoses]

Hey! Thanks for the message! Glad you found me! If you don’t think you’ll print with ABS, ASA, Nylons, etc - then the P1P w/ AMS is gonna save you a TON of money and you’ll be super happy. If you think there is a chance of printing something like ABS, then for $100 more you get the enclosed P1S w/ AMS - this is what I would choose!

[@AdamUS123-j7q]

Your print studio is sick 👍🏻

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks! 💜

[@KrispyKronic]

I was looking at getting my first printer, and was having trouble deciding between a p1p and a p1s.. mainly because I know nothing about 3d printing at this point. Thank you for making this vid, I'll be grabbing a p1s.

[@LoyalMoses]

P1S if you have the budget, but either is okay, they print the same!

[@bear_momo]

Great review!! I'm considering getting the P1s after having the A1, suddenly thinking of getting the X1. But after viewing your review, I'm happy to get the P1s with AMS, if I have the money to spend, I'll get another P1s without AMS. Two is better than one, right? ha!

[@LoyalMoses]

You will LOVE the P1S! Thank you!

[@bear_momo]

@@LoyalMoses can't wait to order it! BBL is taking lunar new year holiday. It is a pain waiting for them to come back. But I fully respect that! Ha!

[@Fanaticalfentons]

Loyal you're putting out some of the best content on the bambu printers. Really good break down of each printer against one another ❤❤❤

[@LoyalMoses]

Wow Karl! I appreciate that!

[@davidboop3550]

I like your videos dude. The KZbin algorithm found you and I like what it found. Subscribed Thank you so much for doing a comparison without using PLA. Thank you!

[@davidboop3550]

I think you just taught me something. That's why I subscribed. You mentioned that you noticed something on the first layer and that's flow related. Correct me if I'm wrong which I know I am because I'm the novice. I always thought you left first layer at 100 %. Should I change my initial flow rate to match the flow rate of non-initial layers?

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks David! Welcome!

[@LoyalMoses]

Flow rate can be adjusted on bottom and top layers if you are interested in detailed fine-tuning, but that isn't very common. Most of the time, you can simply adjust flow rate for your top layer, and leave it at that.

[@uncannyrecovery3980]

New sub. I appreciate the review with true, common sense that went into it. Awesome

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you for the sub and kind words! I really appreciate that.

[@TheHolero]

Did you have to calibrate for different filaments in the p1s? Or just load and print?

[@LoyalMoses]

Just load and print! It is the best experience that has ever existed in 3D printing.

[@sparkplugsandbananas4678]

Great content, subbed immediately! You just confirmed my reasoning and P1S is on it's way. Looking forward to see how it compares to my Raise3D Pro2 in consistency with which I had 100% print success and 0% issues for well over a year now printing almost non-stop. Again, great content and superb quality 👊

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you so much and sorry for replying so late!

[@jordanbanas5564]

Hey I really enjoyed your video. Now I only print in pla now and have only gotten one spool of TPU. I plan on sticking with just these two for now. But which would you recommend between the p1S and the X 1C. I’ve had and Ender 3 pro for 2 years now with a sonic pad. I’m just ready for better print quality and tired of always messing with the calibration set ups and tuning.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! If budget is a concern, go with the P1S, you will REALLY enjoy it. It is an INCREDIBLE machine, and it will change your entire 3D printing world. If you can, get it with the AMS package!

[@melschannel4227]

Thank you. I have been trying to figure out which one to go with.

[@LoyalMoses]

No problem! Whichever you choose, I hope it works out well for you!

[@markus5237]

Thank you for your honest breakdown! Quick question: The process of upgrading the gear and extruder for the P1S should be exactly the same as the P1P right?

[@LoyalMoses]

Wow! Thank you for the Super Thanks! 💜 Yes, the upgrade is exactly the same. I’d highly recommend those upgrades so you can print carbon fiber or other more filaments without issue.

[@grahamwood3105]

this is amazing video. thanks for the download . how hard is it to setup the p1s. for printing . please let me know

[@LoyalMoses]

P1S has an awesome out of box user experience, sets up very quickly and easily!

[@bebo6750]

I have a question, do i need to keeo the door open or the top of the P1S to print PLA? Or its okay to leave it with everything closed?

[@LoyalMoses]

PLA is a very soft polymer with low tolerance to high temperatures, and prone to heat-creep. If heat cannot escape the enclosure, the heat in the melt zone of the hot end will eventually travel upwards and cause the PLA to be softened prematurely and a jam will occur. Opening the front door, and / or having the top removed prevents heat build up in the chamber. Short answer, yes, always print PLA with the door open and / or top removed. Also, this is the same for our industrial 3D printers in the studio.

[@citizen_of_world7305]

Thank you so much!

[@LoyalMoses]

You're welcome!

[@Chookah]

Perfect video, and coincidentally exactly what I was looking for - an ABS comparison.

[@LoyalMoses]

Very kind! Thank you! These enclosed machines are just getting better and better with ABSs and ASAs.

[@joefaraone977]

Thank you for an excellent review. Simple & to the point!!!! If/when the time comes for an upgrade, it'll be the P1S.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks Joe! You will love it!

[@cvantwout1]

Practical comparison, conclusion makes sense, PA would also have been interesting but glad you chose a harder filament

[@swdw973]

Got the P1S 2 weeks ago. Incredible printer for the price.

[@LoyalMoses]

So awesome you got one!

[@azpilotd4351]

Stumbled across your channel recently as I am wanting to get into this amazing hobby. I used to be a guy that started cheap and worked their way up, but I just dont have the time and patience to "tinker" with something needlessly. That's not to say I dont like to problem solve and be creative as I do, but I want something that is generally going to work out of the box and any tinkering is done because I want to upgrade or I choose to do it. Anyway, going with what you say, I think I might just spend the extra and get the X1. You have earned a new subscriber for sure. Thanks

[@LoyalMoses]

Wow! Thank you and that is a GREAT machine!!!

[@Higzilla]

What speed were you printing ABS? were they printed at the same speed? Enjoying your vids. I am trying to decide between the K1 and Bambu offerings X1C is not off the table, but Money is an issue.

[@LoyalMoses]

200mm/s outer wall, everything else 300mm/s. Both printed at same speed. Tonight during the show LIVE, I just printed it again at 124% of that speed in Sport mode, and it came out PERFECT!

[@maxdgac]

@@LoyalMoses How long it takes ?

[@djbneozen]

What extruder comes with the PS1? I know that the 0.2 can do fine details and that you have to upgrade the extruder to do materials that have carbon glass in them is that right? But what comes with it? Someone said buy the .02 and the .06 and the hot material components? Super newbie here. Just started watching videos yesterday before I make my purchase. I plan on getting the PS1. It's just for printing toys and fun things with my kids. Nothing more for now. Subscribed

[@LoyalMoses]

Hey! Welcome and thanks for the sub! Most printers ship with a 0.4mm nozzle, some like LulzBot ship with a 0.5mm nozzle. If you are just starting, don't worry at all about ordering extra nozzles to change. Start simple, print, learn and enjoy it, there is PLENTY of time to upgrade and know what you want to do next. P1S is an AWESOME machine! I hope you get it!

[@JunkyardPerformance]

Man I just found you video thank you but can I print carbon fiber on the p1s or can I upgrade it to do carbon fiber I don't want to spend the money on a x1c cause I will only be doing carbon printing once a month

[@LoyalMoses]

You should upgrade nozzle and gears before printing CF

[@BartNoble]

With both printers sharing the same surface/table/stand, do you think vibrations from either could have affected each others quality?

[@LoyalMoses]

I’m sure at some level yes, but this isn’t rocket science, just melting plastic so I didn’t think it’s anything we’d detect with our eyes.

[@JottyOL]

As I don’t have a separate room for printing, the Bambu Lab printers are too loud for me. But speed isn’t so important for me, so my question is: are there „quite mode“ profiles in the slicer? Do you think, this is possible?

[@LoyalMoses]

They have a “silent” mode, which essentially prints far slower and without nearly as much fan noise. Also yes, you can control fan speed in the slicer for your prints and could create a profile that was quieter than standard.

[@adamgoodone9161]

i wonder if using a 0.2 mm for high detail printing would make the difference. at that point though i would just use resin for high detailed printing. thinking of pulling the trigger on p1s with hardened extruder, nozzle, and print mat. with AMS. thanks for this video. cant wait to ditch my constantly breaking ender 3 that gave me nothing but frustration.

[@LoyalMoses]

Absolutely! 0.2mm nozzle performs crazy good on CoreXY machines because flow is so low the heater has no problem keeping filament flowing. I am so impressed with these machines! If you do grab one, I’d be grateful if you considered my affiliate link! loyal.ms/bambu - it helps a lot! 💜

[@Feakre]

This looks to me as though you used glue on the X1C plate but not on the P1S. Any reason for that?

[@LoyalMoses]

Depends on if it was me or my son that applied it, my son is a little more liberal with the glue! LOL We run glue on almost all machines here. They get a good cleaning, then some glue stick.

[@adriandolha9582]

Heloo !! P1s and x1c same speed of printing ? Thank YOU

[@dyops]

Make I ask how well the P1S filter or cover the fumes? If I get 1, it will be in my small office.

[@LoyalMoses]

Surprisingly good! With PLA, you’ll want the door or top open, and with ABS even with the doors closed, you will want fresh air in the room, and close ventilation or fully ventilated to be safe.

[@aaronliebeck1062]

I have the P1P that I upgraded to the P1S and I haven't looked back at my Ender 3 v2 since. Looking at the Qidi 3 Max for work too.

[@LoyalMoses]

P1P/P1S are fantastic machines and the X-Max 3! WOW!

[@ceironfaux8149]

Thank you, ! wasn't sure about whether to go for the P1S or the X1C, the more expensive machine has some nice features but I print PLA mostly and this has made my decision easier!

[@LoyalMoses]

Fantastic! I am glad I could help!

[@graphguy]

Thanks for helping me to decide.

[@LoyalMoses]

You are so welcome! Share when you get it!

[@jonathus48]

Hi! Thanks for your review! Is there a difference in terms of noise level between the p1s and the x1c (when doors are closed) or is it similar? Thanks a lot!

[@LoyalMoses]

From what I can tell so far, they are exactly the same.

[@jonathus48]

@@LoyalMoses Thanks for your feedback!

[@LoyalMoses]

@@jonathus48 anytime!

[@MWBgq]

This video helped me decide between the two. Have been thinking about it in and off for a few months, and hadn't found a video that quite highlighted the details in the difference between the two. Looking for something to compliment my UP300 as I look to start printing more parts.

[@LoyalMoses]

This is great to hear! Thank you! And whichever option you choose, I’m sure you will be very happy!

[@SNAFU_24_7]

UP300 owners seem few & far between. Good to see someone else using an UP300 👍 I'm annoyed with myself for buying too soon then the UP300D came out 🤦‍♂️ Other brands are tempting for a second machine to run 2 together.

[@MWBgq]

@@LoyalMoses I ended up with a P1S and have absolutely no regrets. I have not had a single failed print, with fairly complex designs (a modelled leather texture of 0.5mm height on the skin of a model, approx 17 million triangles total). It prints it absolutely flawlessly at almost 2x the speed of my UP300. The same model, same layer height infill etc is 14h on my UP300 and 8.5h on the Bambu P1S. Some of the time saving is tree support vs traditional, since UP Studio doesn't do tree supports, but a lot of it is the fact that I have the Bambu cranked to 450mm/s on almost every single feature while the UP300 starts seeing print defects at speeds above 120mm/s.

[@MWBgq]

@@SNAFU_24_7 I found the UP300 to be a fantastic first printer. Absurd price aside, it is an incredibly well designed machine that has given me 4 years of amazing prints. It has its moments, but they are in my opinion much less troublesome than hobbyist printers. As someone who picked up 3d printing to complement my other hobbies the Tiertime UP300 printer and now the Bambu P1S have been incredibly reliable, require infrequent calibration and adjustments allowing me to focus on the design and fit of my parts without having to add the hobby of tuning a printer. I calibrate/level the bed of the UP300 maybe once every 6 months. Slide the build plate out, remove print, slide it back in and start the next print. Both printers opened up a world of access to custom parts without being a timesoak themselves. I'll encourage everyone into 3d printing to consider spending that bit more for an entry level commercial printer capable of printing engineering filaments if that's something you have a use for. But even for just PLA, the reliability and detail these machines are capable of and their ample bed size, repeatable results and hassle free operation pays for itself in saved time, misprints and calibration alone.

[@Demonbuglaunch]

You could do a short of the two of them printing a multi filament object to see if that would make a difference.

[@LoyalMoses]

Definitely!

[@haplo19]

One problem w this channel is that after spending a full video listening to your calm voice and gazing into your doe-y eyes i'm gonna buy anything you recommend 😶

[@LoyalMoses]

Oh you, making me blush!

[@diy_wizard]

Thanks! I’m currently considering busing a p1s instead of a x1c because oft the price! This videos was helpful!

[@LoyalMoses]

Very welcome! It’s a great machine. You’ll be very happy!

[@kylecorona8176]

thanks for the video reallygood to the point and convinced me to get the p1s

[@LoyalMoses]

Awesome! I am so glad I could help!

[@yusefpersona82]

Thanks I was struggling to choose for the best price and quality ratio I’m going for the p1s.

[@LoyalMoses]

Excellent choice!

[@tgsparkyoriginal]

Still on the fence about which one to get AND also should I wait because I’d like a larger one 🤔

[@LoyalMoses]

Either will be great, and you can always grab a Neptune 3 Max for large prints at regular speed, otherwise you may be waiting for sometime.

[@91rickstar]

Wow there’s no layer lines 100% awesome prints loyal both look amazing in quality

[@LoyalMoses]

I totally agree!

[@skwashua]

I'm getting ready to throw my CR-10 out of the window. This was very helpful for what to replace it with. Thanks!

[@LoyalMoses]

Let me know when you get a new machine!!!

[@casade2831]

Thank you for the video. Is it possible to replace the hot-end for another that can go much higher in temperature?

[@LoyalMoses]

There are aftermarket hotend upgrades, but I have not yet tested any at this time.

[@OhImKiCkiN]

I'm going to order 1 or the other in September. Id rather have the P1Scombo because of the price. But it all depends on how fast they take to send it. The X1C combo is in stock all the time but Ive seen people complaining about lengthy wait times on the P1S. With the P1S gaining popularity Id imagine the lead time is going to get worse by the time i can order mine.

[@LoyalMoses]

From what I’m seeing right now, a lot of people who ordered last week have already received it or are receiving it Monday or Tuesday!

[@OhImKiCkiN]

@@LoyalMoses That's great. Thank you

[@Sad-lawlessness]

what did you end up going with@@OhImKiCkiN

[@TheGuyWhoAsked72]

Hey I sorry but was the print time the same?

[@LoyalMoses]

Yes, print times were near identical - only difference was the pre-print operations.

[@pedrof24]

You are using the Texture PEI plate, the Lidar cant use it. do the comparision on the Engineering Plate or the High Temperature Plate for a smart review...

[@LoyalMoses]

We remembered that after uploading! 🤦‍♂️

[@יוסידגן-י2ל]

Hey, hope you are doing well. I Loved watching your Tutorial videos on KZbin. as a beginner in the 3d printing world, i wanted to consult with you regarding which printer i should buy. I've done some research and seen many models out there. My main concerns regarding which printer to buy were: 1.Precision of the 3d model. 2.Printing Multicolor 4+ 3.Top Layer quality of the print. 4. can print big models So the best printer i found to match my requirements was the: Bambulab X1C, since it can prints multi color. i also noticed that there's something called Pallet 3 pro, but i didn't like the quality that was printed with this tool. So I'm here to ask you if you can recommend a printer that fits my requirements? my budget is up to 1,500$ for the printer. The main purpose of the printer is to print colorful 3d action figure models, that's why i need the precision. Also printing big models like masks or big Pokémon dolls and try to retail them after in my local shop. I Would really appreciate your help and advice!

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! I hope you are well too! The bambu experience is the best we’ve seen, and I would lean my recommendations in that direction.

[@AlexRamirez-bs8fo]

Going from an Ender 3 to one of these. Not sure which one I should buy. Any advice?

[@LoyalMoses]

Sorry I missed this question! Did you end up deciding?

[@theshenanigator154]

Alright you sold me! I am ordering a P1S

[@LoyalMoses]

Heck yeah!!!

[@JessandJenn2019]

My wife told me to get the X1C but now I'm debating... thanks!!

[@LoyalMoses]

Wo! GO GET IT!

[@MattHealey.]

This is the printer that made be pull the trigger into fdm printing. It’s epic

[@LoyalMoses]

That’s awesome to hear! Great choice too!

[@italiano0317]

If I add a hardened steel nozzle on the Bambu P1s, would I be able to run CF-PETG without any other modifications? If I wanted to be able to run carbon fiber nylon or CF-PET, only then I would have to get a different hotend? I am trying to make sure I understood your last statement about the P1s. Thank you for your time.

[@LoyalMoses]

YES! You upgrade the nozzle and the extruder gears!

[@MrIonutz2008]

Hey, what would be your choice between the P1S and Qidi X Max 3 ? I like the P1S more than Qidi but i would love to have the print size of Qidi X Max 3. Thank you.

[@LoyalMoses]

I would choose the P1S for the AMS potential.

[@hbot2758]

My Creality CR-10s just died and instead of replacing the motherboard, I decided to upgrade because of the inconsistency of its prints. Does the Bambu x1c print more consistently than the p1s because of the lidar and spaghetti protection? My cr-10s messed up every other print in any number of ways, so I'm really looking for a printer that will print almost always.

[@LoyalMoses]

Both machines have been extremely reliable, both print identical results. You can’t go wrong with either choice.

[@HandymanArtur]

Thank You for that video :)

[@LoyalMoses]

You are so welcome!

[@torvic6448]

Merci pour votre sincérité qui apporte la réponse que nous recherchons. Je peux affirmer que la plupart des youtubeurs nous racontent des salades !

[@LoyalMoses]

You are very welcome! ❤️

[@FoxwoodCreative]

Very nice overview thanks!

[@LoyalMoses]

Very welcome!

[@Samlilly2]

I got one on the way

[@LoyalMoses]

FANTASTIC!!! You’ll have to share how you like it! I’d love to know. Are you on our discord? discord.thelmshow.com

[@cameronbasford8991]

If I was looking at either of these two, to mainly print CF, which would be the pick?

[@LoyalMoses]

If you have the budget, the X1C because of the interface and it is ready to go for CF.

[@skr3wb4llsr40]

I could never afford these type of printers. They are SOOOOOO AWESOME tho and GREAT video

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks! I bet you can afford them soon, they are really coming down in price!

[@Puffycheeks]

Great video, Thank you.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you!

[@jumadhaheri]

This is a fantastic 3d printer

[@LoyalMoses]

Heck yeah it is!

[@johnskinner7571]

Thanks for all your information, I'm new to printing but it looks like the P1P for me. Keep up the great work! If you need to thin your herd of printers let me know, I can help.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! 😆

[@3dmedicvince449]

If you don't need all the added features of the X1C then get a P1S with the AMS for less than the X1C.

[@LoyalMoses]

Great point! 🔥

[@bennguyen1313]

Aside from Lidar, the other big advantage of the X1C over the P1S is that it supports more materials, no? BTW, any thoughts how the Bambu P1S compares to Infimech TX?

[@LoyalMoses]

I’ve used the infimech, but I haven’t seen anything yet that makes me believe it can beat the Bambu Lab ecosystem, but I really don’t like to judge without using one.

[@maxnankervis8246]

Cost aside; Is there anything else that makes a P1S Better than an X1-Carbon?

[@LoyalMoses]

The lidar and hardened gears and the interface… also the processor on the X1C is way more powerful.

[@tothepoint4334]

I’m wondering if the same can be said about the A1? If the enclosure isn’t needed can one save even more money going that route?So the question being, can you tell a difference in print quality between the A1 and Bambu P series 🤔

[@LoyalMoses]

We will definitely do that once the new A1 arrives!

[@sAINT898]

I want to print Nylon, will these work with Nylon?

[@LoyalMoses]

Absolutely! Both of them print Nylon perfectly!

[@sAINT898]

Ordered!

[@LoyalMoses]

Congrats!!!

[@sAINT898]

@@LoyalMoses picked up an X1 Carbon

[@Pippy626]

As a 3d printer noob that never got his ender 3 to do anything other then PLa is it worth. And who wants to sell prints 949 vs 1499

[@LoyalMoses]

Either of these machines are awesome!

[@Brap_Lord]

Would’ve loved to have seen a more in depth comparison- same filament on both, but different benchy’s and tolerance test, overhang angle test, stringing test, etc. this video was good for an “at glance” comparison, but I don’t think it was informational enough to help someone decide which machine to buy for long term use.

[@LoyalMoses]

Great! Then it was exactly what I wanted it to be.