450 BM vs 458 Socom vs 50 Beo: ONE Reigns Supreme

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On this episode of Ultimate Barrier Testing, we will compare the performance of the 450 Bushmaster to the 458 Socom and the 50 Beowulf on 4 different targets. Each target is worth 25 points (winner takes all), for a grand total of 100 points. Whichever cartridge ends up with the highest score will be the winner. Testing was setup at 50 yards. Steel is A529 grade 55 mild steel. 1 inch = 25.4 mm. Thanks for watching!
*These tests are meant for entertainment and educational purposes only. Do not try any of these tests at home! Always verify your setup is rated for and can safely fire any ammunition that you intend to use.

[@bananaballistics]

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[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

Them Straight Walled Cartridges, always a blast to see.

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

In case of Big Recoil, look into getting a few Buttstocks Modified with some Nitro Gas Filled Shocks. They're for Radio Controlled Cars (Maxxas Traxxas), but they're made exactly the same as the 1's for real Cars and Trucks. It will mitigate Heavy Recoil a ton.

[@richb2229]

I have the BM so that’s the one I will keep, for now. It’s awesome and incredibly accurate.

[@bebop_557]

This popped up in my recommendations, I didn't know what to expect but I was dying of laughter at the Bear Creek Arsenal part. No fluff, no fancy intro, no HIGH SPEED TACTIOOL shooting montage. Just directly to business from a guy in his backyard one handing everything with the camera. I like it

[@togusa7000]

Yes! Back to basics.

[@TestUser-cf4wj]

This is the only firearms channel I'm subbed to for exactly the reasons you listed.

[@dbeasleyphx]

I think the flying banana intro is hilarious, so…

[@hessex1899]

The .458 has so many different options for projectiles that it's difficult to summarize with just one load. For example a 300gr SJHP load is going to act very differently from a 500gr lead flat nose.

[@travelinalaskan]

Alexander arms offers seven different rounds for the .50 Beowulf and you can reload using any bullets made for the Smith& Wesson 500.

[@hessex1899]

@@travelinalaskan Wow that's cool. There are *40* 0.457-0.459 diameter bullets in stock and ready to ship at MidwayUSA right now. Out of 73 total.

[@hessex1899]

@@travelinalaskan 0.500 and 0.501 diameter projectiles? Same vendor? 12

[@travelinalaskan]

@@hessex1899 WOW!

[@shelbyoffrink4424]

How about 0.451-452? 116 results. The FTX bullet is absolute junk. Anything from Barnes in those diameters will be far superior. The FTX expands quickly and doesn’t retain much weight for penetration. The Barnes copper/brass monolith retains almost all the weight and expands almost double or more and gets a higher velocity.

[@IkeShipp]

This guys voice went through puberty twice.

[@noidea3177]

The 458 shines suppressed. Close enough to the 50, and you get 600gr slugs.

[@BikerDash]

"getting plowed by the bison" I think it's time you stepped away from the internet! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnbergmann2896]

I have a 450 and love it. The straight brass lasts for many shots too. I like it suppressed as well.

[@survivaloptions4999]

"Yessir. Yessir. That's correct. No entry wound.... because his heart was ejected through his spine. Yessir. Helluva thing."

[@hunterwaite4573]

Hey, I love the cartridge comparisons. Two comparisons I’d love to see: 6.8 SPC vs 6.5 Grendel vs 6 ARC 204 Ruger vs 22 ARC vs 223/5.56 I love the AR length actions, and I’d love to see comparisons between them all. Anyway, keep up the good work.

[@erroneous6947]

I’d add 6 max to that list.

[@daltonbecker4494]

@@erroneous6947 Shoot I'd even throw in good old 6.5 Swedish to that first one, lot of people swear by it.

[@bananaballistics]

Bad news… Your spouse says you can only keep/buy one of these (458 Socom, 450 Bushmaster, 50 Beowulf). Which one and what setup?

[@WarhammerWeekEndTimes]

450 bm because it's the most affordable

[@bobhead229]

Lie my ass off and get/keep all three

[@depressoexpresso6053]

I just recently completed a .450 bushmaster build. I went with that over the .50 and 458 due to the similarities in powders and primers I use with my other handloads. The only complaint I have is getting brass for it.

[@BradMacc82]

Get a new spouse…

[@vernonbarbee1351]

In the spirit of the exercise I'd probably say the second. But answering for a friend, and I quote "no body, no crime". I don't understand though...

[@coltonriggan4072]

We need a ballistic high speed collab with all this destruction

[@ChristianGustafson]

We plebs can't wait to see how 8.6 Blackout handles your obstacle course.

[@AldoSchmedack]

8.6 ftw, my fav!

[@wc7102]

Picking up my 8.6 Fix in a few days. Pumped!

[@billparks7368]

Love the music bouncing back and forth from classical to metal. From serene to serious.

[@general-Lee-700]

Were I come from the 50 Beowulf is called the coyote nuke for damn good reason

[@travelinalaskan]

I love my .50 Beowulf! The brass solids I have are nuts and the 400 grain soft nose fold every thing.

[@haselrigg1644]

Try using solids on the .458 instead of FTX.

[@sproutpits]

I've never gotten solids that will cycle in my .458 AR upper. Not pointy enough.

[@Deoblo28]

I haven’t had much luck with the socom and ftx rounds on deer. They don’t seem to penetrate well. I have solids I’m going to give a try.

[@DDDontCare]

I've had some minor issues with Bear Creek arsenal QC but on the other hand they're also some of the most accurate AR barrels I have. Especially their 223 wylde barrels

[@fenrisgaming8982]

I have one of their 7.62x39 side charging uppers, and really, the only issue I've seen is that the gas key seems very lightly staked, but it's not popped loose yet, so until it does, I'm not calling it an issue. There's a series of torture tests ran on one of their 5.56 side charging uppers by a tiny youtube channel that has completely sold me on the viability of BCA. I'll link them here if anyone wants to watch them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKqThoOnncuhrqcsi=NoQZmtLwoy3jZKu5 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGepeaBjfK17ba8si=QftF9SLG5eevz0cU

[@DDDontCare]

@@fenrisgaming8982 that was a very issue I had.

[@KevinJames-yg9eu]

It's been beyond QC for me. I received one barrel that looked like somebody had used sandpaper lengthwise on it, so who knows WTF happened there, and I've received several that were damaged due to poor packaging. I didn't have any trouble returning them, but it's a huge waste of my time. Bear Creek makes Midway USA barrels, and I've never gotten junk or damaged barrels ordering through them. I also never got an answer from Bear Creek regarding the size of wrench I needed for the proprietary barrel nut used with their hand guard. It wasn't any common inch or metric size, so I had to remove it with an adjustable wrench and mill the damn nut slightly to fit a normal crow foot.

[@gregspace2]

I've got several bca uppers and they all are A-ok, never a problem with anything, ill buy buy buy

[@jamesmix78]

When shooting the 1/4” plate it looks like you’re recreating the craters on the moon 😂🤪

[@ArmedProphet]

Hands down, Banana Ballistics is the best no BS balllistic testing channel on KZbin... but why do I keep thinking he's going to Rick Roll us with THAT VOICE! LoL

[@CivilianTactical]

Another banger! Great video.

[@308c]

Thanks! It's great to see another video comparing these bullets. I've learned it really comes down to bullet construction for how wins.

[@AndrewR74]

Love my Beo. Got a big can on the thing, some 600gr loads, and it’s pretty damn quiet, and devastating.

[@honorb4glory606]

.45/70 is my favorite rifle cartridge, but dang, that .50 Beo is pretty dang cool. I guess that's my favorite auto rifle cartridge.

[@vernonbarbee1351]

Another good one! Thanks to the bassy banana ballistics bro!!!

[@frijoli9579]

Surprised the Beowulf did that well. I do love that cartridge.

[@petedavid9946]

Lol, your “blaa” sound when hitting the sand cracked me up big time! 😂😂

[@reconrc1787]

I have run many tests between these 3 calibers over the years and the 450BM is the one that won my heart over. I have taken multiple large game animals with it and it drops critters where they stand. The 450 outperfomes the others in real world test scenarios and is flatter shooting. The biggest flaw I see in your testing is that your using standard cup and core bullets. Get some bonded or solid copper bullets.

[@shawngrays9087]

The next hottest Staight Wall cartridges .41 Great Lakes, and the handloader dream 400 Legend,

[@bananaballistics]

I agree, but it’s what I could find at the time to keep it fair

[@motorgearhead]

Not to suggest something dangerous but the 450B parent case is the 284 Winchester. The 458 & the 50 Beolf are based on pistol cartridges. 284W is saami spec’d at near 60,000 psi. I’ve loaded the 450B with 45 ACP ball and 40 grain of lil’gun and it pushes 2400+ fps and make 2900+ fpe and will probably hole the steel plate since it’s a FMJ round. The numbers above are through a 16” bushmaster Upper. Plus this is a general 1.5-2.0” grouper at 100 yards. I nicknamed this my T-Rex load as I imagine you want a bunch of penetration if you’re shooting dinosaurs?

[@kyleg8928]

@@bananaballisticsit would have been fare if you used equal 6x6 blocks…the 50 and socom got a piece of balsa wood compared the huge solid knot you gave the bushmaster….first big testing fail from Banana Ballistics

[@kyleg8928]

.450 bushmaster is the least expensive and the only one using an actual parent rifle cartridge. .450 is far more versatile. And got screwed on the 6x6 test with a huge knot and the other two got a degraded piece of balsa wood. Disappointed 😂

[@stevenstabile9893]

Great Vid. Loved it. I am a big bore guy through and through. Just finished a 450 BM build myself. Only went with that because of shared components with some of my other calibers I reload for. Also, not sure how similar it is to the other two but 450 is not very sensitive to barrel length. You don't lose much HP (Velocity) with shorter barrels. I went with a 10.5". Short range sledge hammer. Up there with my 45 Raptor and 45/70.

[@jacobmanalang8162]

glad to hear it from you steve. i was more interested in a 10.5 450bm ar for the same reasons

[@cajun4christ]

Oh man gosh- “What’s so special..?!?” All my food spit out 😂

[@GoffeTorg]

Love your stuff. Very entertaining. Keep it up! And even though my beloved and cherished 458 didn't wipe the floor with the others, Terry told me it's his fav.

[@scottstewart8826]

A better test would be with the largest grain bullet available for each cartidge. 458 is really in a different category due to wide range of RIFLE bullet type/weights (think 45-70). You're comparing what the best the other 2 cartridges can do, but just getting started with the socom. IMHO.

[@off6848]

Another .300bo type flop "gOoD fOr SpEcsHuL OpErAtIoNs aNd sUrPrEsSeD!"

[@IWatchedWhat]

I have two 458 SoComs, one AR and one bolt action. Try out the Barnes 300gr TTSX bullet made just for the SoCom. Lehigh used to make several nice bullets for the SoCom, but now there is only three offerings. If you are reloading your own for the SoCom use Reloder 7 or CFEBlk.

[@IamBethIam]

I like the 300gr nosler ballistic tip

[@kiyanharchegani2588]

People love to crap on BCA. I think as a community we should be embracing and praising companies like them offering decent products for subpar pricing. I have 3 uppers from them and ive had 1 hiccup with each in about 6000 rounds between all 3 and they have sent replacement part for free delivered to me in less than 10 days from email.

[@Rickkari7]

Have 2 BCA uppers, 7.62x39 and a 6.5 Grendel. Run great. As for the big bores, whoa, they pack a slammmm! Love the way they trashed the blocks. I would probably go with 450 BM just because of ammo availability. They are all sweet though.

[@handlesaredumb1]

I ordered the BCA 450 in right side charging model. Very happy.

[@originalthundercat4295]

Bear creek arsenal has been great to me

[@vittoriovuocolo2438]

Me too.i've got more than my share of them on palmetto State lowers. They do their job.

[@KevinJames-yg9eu]

I've returned more to them than I've kept because their packaging sucks and arrives with barrels poking out.

[@originalthundercat4295]

@@KevinJames-yg9eu that sucks, mine have always shipped in a bunker I needed a sawzall to open

[@peaceoutbruh7085]

my 50 beowulf broke within 100 rds

[@BeagleBob-zw7wg]

My 6.5 Grendel broke the extractor claw within 200 rounds

[@ryewaldman2214]

This would be fun to revisit with these cartridges and the solid copper xtreme penetrator loads for them!

[@stronglikebull2994]

I was really hoping after this extensive review, you'd say, "Baby lock the door and turn the lights down looooow"

[@joyroc885]

Use to have a 458 socom and loved it. I used 45-70 projectiles for reloading and only cost me about .40 around. 450 bushmaster just came out and didn't know much about at the time. But I might have to get one since you can use 45acp projectiles.

[@travisrolison9646]

I got one when it became legal for deer in MI. Reload with 45 pistol for cheaper shooting and then 450 bullets for hunting. Also being a bolt gun I can reload to MUCH higher pressure than stock ammo as stock is made for the weaker action of the AR. Though uploading a lot doesn't do as much for me since I have the 18inch barrel. If you get the 22 inch you see more gains from it

[@anthonyhaddix3598]

That was some pretty enemic 458, my 300 grain hollow points run 1900fps all day long out of my 16 inch barrel.

[@johnh7908]

I get over 1600 from the 325 FTX in my 12" barrel with a moderate load of CFEBLK. I agree, a bit anemic.

[@IamBethIam]

I run black butterfly... try the Giganticus maximus fractura

[@johnh7908]

Great video as always, Thanks. Didn't catch what brand of ammo the SOCOM was, but I get over 1600fps with a 12" bbl over a moderate load of CFE BLK. Keep up the great videos.

[@clintonlayne9253]

Cool tests. I have to comment on the Bear Creek Arsenal engraving the last upper that I bought had the engraving which I like . I had also order a 450 BM & 458 Socom which did not have the engraving. I think having the engraved upper BCA has up its imeage.

[@user-zq1sc1un9h]

Can you do a test between types of bullets like hornady a-tip vs fmj and a hunting bullet?

[@AdamJohnson-dr2ri]

I’d like to see more 458 rounds like an Underwood solid copper or buffalo bore hard cast, talk to your ppl at Midway! Lol. Always good videos, keep it up👍🏻

[@shawn.at.texoma]

been waiting years for somebody to do this, nice job

[@nevrcm3261]

remarkable amount of energy dump. so from all of your tests (and I mean all) all I need is 6 inches of sand in a box and I'm bulletproof 🙂

[@andrewszerbiak7330]

Love to see you redo the test but with fmj bullets and not hunting/hollow points!

[@charlespaluha1247]

Wonderful video. But something to think about. The longer you have those pressure treated blocks especially cut. The drying out and losing moisture content that's why they split in so many pieces.

[@arequina]

My 458 from Bear Creek Arsenal had so many issues that I gave up on it. Over the course of several correspondence, I returned it to BCA because of feeding issues. My semi-auto became a bolt action. When I got it back, it somewhat kind of worked. I was able to shoot 5 rounds without any issues. I Just left it at that and stuffed it back in the back of the safe. Haven't touched it since.

[@amn1308]

The best and worst thing about 458-socom is the variety of loads. I invented a H4 buffer for mine, and tried a bunch of different loads before finding what worked best for mine.

[@arequina]

@@amn1308 I've been using the standard H2. If you don't mind me asking, what's the weight of your H4 since it's a custom made.

[@handlesaredumb1]

​@arequina I agree with a heavier buffer. They offer buffer weights without a buffer and it's not hard to open the one you have already. Just try taking out a lighter weight and replacing it with a heavy weight one at a time until it works.

[@amn1308]

@@arequina it ended up being 6.4oz (180g if you're one of those metric people) I removed the rubber spacers between the tungsten weights, drilled out the inside until it was as deep as I was comfortable with and put one more tungsten weight in. Think I ended up shaving a bit off to get the plug back in the end.

[@arequina]

@@amn1308 thanks.

[@louiswolff9382]

Awesome test, see if you can find some different bullets like FMJ’s instead of hunting rounds ie: soft points flat nosed, hollow points, try to get some solids and retest em lol

[@dburnside2554]

Great stuff thanks

[@ATLAS-_-.]

I'm excited for this.

[@steelpunisher6944]

Crazy timing on this video!!! I just ordered some bullets to load for my .450 Bushmaster and some .50 cal for my Beowulf and 500 mag. From Midway USA of course. I love the big bore videos. Awesome work good sir 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@MrUnknownuser55]

Dudes thumb looks like Abraham Old Town from momma named me sheriff on Hulu looks like he wants a rooster someone😂

[@bemo4313]

Those cartridges where not designed to stop an engine but (especially in the case of the .458) to go thru ‘things’ (windshield, branches,..) without being deviated from their path.. Anyway, great video, very informative. I went the 450BM way because of cost and, despite the bad reputation, my BCA upper is very accurate and very cheap compared to building your own upper.

[@Hornet_Legion]

would have been nice to see a fmj or solid copper bulleta in this test i had a .50 beowulf but the ammo was so high i couldnt afford to shoot it much. pretty fun though.

[@TestUser-cf4wj]

Buying one or two boxes at a time sucks, but with the prices the way they are, even with bulk discount, who can afford more than a couple of boxes at a time? Still, if you're gonna go big, go all the way!

[@cujet]

The 50beo with the 350g Brass Spitzer bullets is another matter entirely. They blaze through wood, making a clean hole, and can penetrate certain materials, such as mild steel. But since it is fairly slow moving, not likely to penetrate AR500 steel.

[@mckenzieb92]

How do the prices of ammo compare among the three?

[@BuffRANGE]

Bravo Good Show!

[@jayb2344]

450BM all day for me. Had the Ruger American with the tank break and ran a few different tests myself. Generally used Hornady Black between price point and general performance it was comparable to any other JHP there was to offer but as far as specialty ammo went I had gone with underwood ammo and tell you what those “extreme penatrators “ they offer are no joke aswell the “dangerous game” flats are gnarly aswell. But I’ve sent my fair share of JHP thru railroad ties , cinder blocks and any other piece of scrap that I could muster up. Just an over all fun Thumper for the price point as far as ammo and platforms go.

[@timothyanderson1132]

The 458 and the 50 Beowulf are my favorite calibers I use them for home defense 😊

[@gary16217]

Have you done any tests with the 45 Super?

[@wymonwatson1309]

I've had good luck with most of my bca uppers, key word most lol. They are a good starting point for a budget build, but you do get what you pay for so be prepared to possibly have to tune them up a bit.

[@dustinjahnsen1846]

I love my bear creek rifle it is amazingly accurate for the money I can almost guarantee 1 moa grouping or better with cheap ammo. Sure it feels cheap and is heavy but it shoots great and just runs! I’d love to use their barrels with a nicer everything else! Great video love your content keep up the great stuff!

[@rayzorjay7331]

This one was great, I was considering a build in BM450 at some point, and now... I'm still considering it. Side note, you've never done 6.8SPC and now that 6.8 SPCV2 is available with the original load spec it'd be cool to see the difference. The V2 just needs a compatible chamber capable of the increased pressure. Maybe pit them up against 300BO since that dumb round is what killed the 6.8 craze and made my ammo so damn expensive.. lol.

[@dustinleonard6834]

Ive had the .50 and hated it. Got a 450 now and love it. Ballistics wise, the 450 smokes the other two. What barrel is on the 450?

[@WEKM]

Do NOT play with the Battle Cattle Fluffy Murder Cows... Well, unless you're aiming for a Darwin Award. Other than that, very interesting comparisons.

[@everybodydothatdinosaur519]

.458 is great because the military actually used it a lot and there are subsonic or supersonic loads for it, which tends to make it more versatile. There's a lot more loads for it. However, for the most part all of them are pretty similar, .458 tends to be weaker as it was intended to be subsonic.

[@steve390gold]

Ive got the mac daddy of the big AR calibers..... 500WTF. Uses an AR10 frame.

[@peternorton5648]

(Clears throat) um, a 500 “what the f@$k”?? 😂😂 If this is real then I need one just for the conversations.

[@steve390gold]

​​@@peternorton5648 yes it is very real. :) take a remington 300 ultra magnum case, cut the shoulder off and there you go. 65,000 psi and fully into 458 win mag territory but with a 50 cal projectile. It is a wildcat that was custom built. :)

[@camaroskate1]

50 SDM short for 50 Sodomizer, based on the 7mm RSAUM and uses 50 bmg projectiles in an AR10 platform. It's wicked!

[@henryfowler6475]

Really makes you think

[@alexsparks5596]

I love my .450 BM and haven't had a deer get more than a few yards away doing a death run. Definitely puts their engine block out of commission 😂. Actually just looked at a 50 build yesterday because apparently I hate myself and my shoulder.🤣 Biggest thing that turned me off to the .458 when I built my .450 was the ammo price. I wanted to build a good hunting rifle with reasonable ammo cost (7mm Rem Mag definitely is not most times) and the .458 was 2x the cost of the .450. Enjoyed the video a lot and keep up the great work!

[@AC9T]

@bananaballistics have you ever considered water logging a 6x6 block to allow for a saturated target? The results when compared to your default dry blocks could be interesting.

[@velxm6652]

This is my first time watching one of ur vids and I did not see that face with that voice in my head 😂😂

[@chincemagnet]

My Bear Creek AR10 is actually awesome. I’d definitely recommend getting the better barrel option if you get a BCA AR, there base barrel option is ridiculously heavy. The fluted stainless barrel is fantastic. Honestly though, not the biggest fan of their lowers. Would recommend a PSA lower if you want something cheap.

[@tomforeman4976]

Question are you shooting solid lead with copper painted on them?

[@righty-o3585]

I think they're called top flaps. Lol😁🤘

[@independentthinker8930]

Love my beowulf!!!!! I cast and load my own, a solid brass spire point is a car killer

[@Stevarino1020]

I like Paul Harrel's meat target for assessing damage much better than anything on this site. These large calibers were designed to dump most of the energy on the target so penetration tests on steel don't tell you much. Also the Bushmaster is much better in the 100 to 200 yard hunting range than the other 2 tested. But all three of these rounds can do a lot of damage at short range.

[@travisrolison9646]

450 for me. Its legal in Michigan for deer, the others aren't. Also i reload, so I can use cheap 45 pistol bullets for plinking or non deer ammo. In addition, since i have a bolt gun, I can reload to much more pressure than stock as stock ammo is loaded for AR platform that can't handle as much pressure

[@scooterpickle8625]

@7:35 Did anyone else play that back over and over and just keep laughing?

[@randyhughes5160]

That was great I think this was the best so far

[@olysean92]

400gr Beowulf recoils like 12ga slugs. A little lighter but with more velocity. Try swapping the rifle stock for a Tailhook pistol brace. I bought a 10.5" for bear country. But the reliability of 50 cal straight wall cartridges in adverse conditions keeps that upper in a safe. Nobody carries 50AE in Alaska either.

[@usarmyprepper]

Definitely do this again with underwood or one of the full copper penetrator rounds in all 3. Definitely one of your best.

[@charleshaynes1080]

Both of my .450. BM are 20” barreled the #1 single shot gets Just above the 2200 fps box rating and the AR just below. I might need to try the black hills in the #1

[@Backin_Theday]

From a handloader standpoint and the availability of solid .458 cal rifle rated projectiles, the SOCOM is my choice, which is why it's the only one I have kept. Them Hornady FTX are about the worst bullet you could load in that round. Great for human sized targets in self-defense situations, but not a good choice for much else.

[@TylerHaskiell-fs3mx]

It sounds like you took a big hit of duster 😂

[@scottmoody3926]

That chassis looks amazing

[@shazmodeus2795]

How do you like that Vortex AMG holo dot? I keep eyeing one of those, but at almost the price of an Eotech, is it worth it?

[@DinoNucci]

No

[@bananaballistics]

Can’t speak for long term durability, but I like it so far. It’s up to you on the specs and warranty of each

[@GigiolaCinquetty]

Yeah, when i look down, i always see 3 rifles to choose from ... Even in the toilet ! 🤣

[@Duraigo]

I have a couple Bear Creek uppers. They aren't top shelf, but they are worth the amount you spend on them, especially if you are looking for range fun on a budget.

[@TestUser-cf4wj]

I don't know if anyone but Bear Creek makes a .17 HMR for the AR platform. That's the only BC upper I think I'd be interested in.

[@MattWaller04]

I have a Ruger American Ranch in 450 and I love it! Absolute thumper of a round in a lightweight rifle.

[@travisrolison9646]

Got one too. Good rifle Though with that muzzle break its one of the loudest guns I have shot. I hunt with earplugs now

[@MattWaller04]

@@travisrolison9646 yes it's a great way to clear an indoor range 😂

[@edpetrocelli2633]

Sand box remains undefeated! Have you ever tested a 7.62 x 54, uncomfortable to shoot, I shot 3 rounds and give it back to my buddy. He was using some hot factory loads. Your vids are cool.

[@xdfanatic]

if you wanted to make the 3rd test analogous to an engine block, you should have used some combination of cast aluminum plates and maybe a 20 gauge sheet metal spaced a few inches away from it.

[@airwolf...]

It would be interesting to see this test done again with Cutting Edge Bullets Safari Solid bullets that are just solid brass. I imagine the penetration would be insane. 450 Bowel Movement would have to sit out, though, because Cutting Edge does not offer them in .452.

[@minisparkee]

For the AR's you might want to look at the Make Group recoil reducing stock.

[@natalyasparrow6748]

Imagine being the hardware store guy when BB walks in...

[@scottmansfield1734]

It’s been so long since i’ve heard anything about these rounds, that i actually forgot about them!!! 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@bradolsen8629]

You have a very distinctive voice in the late 18 century in the early part of the 20th century there was a man who did voiceovers of his time you sound just like him. I can’t think of his name, but he did a lot of voices for movies and cartoons.

[@taconobaka1688]

Interesting. Would have liked to see what fmj bullets would have done, or maybe what those FTXs would have done to a gel block, but oh well. Also, my .458 SOCOM doesn't have nearly the recoil of a .30-06, even using a slightly heavier 350gr fmj. Recently finished the build and took it to the range to adjust the gas block and sight it in. I ran 40 rnds through it and could have kept going if the ammo wasn't so dang expensive. (Definitely need to get my hand loading gear set up in the new digs.) Full disclosure, I got the thickest softest butt stock I could find, was wearing a shooting vest with an old sock stuck in the shoulder pad pocket, and my rifle only has a 14.5" barrel with a Silencer Co. 3 chamber muzzle brake. Guess all that must make a difference because the recoil was much less than I was lead to expect.

[@rediron44]

I wanna know how to get that 450BM ammo you tested on the steel

[@bananaballistics]

I believe it can only be ordered directly through them

[@Ring0--]

@Micha keep it up dude. You are hilarious.😂