2 Very Common Edgeguarding Mistakes (And How To Fix Them)

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@@limitlesshoka5418 me too

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Other mains: cool now I know how to edgeguard properly Steve mains: *BLOCK*

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Steve mains rise up!

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@@-cartythecart-4627 min min uses a rotating disk and steve uses dirt and wood lol

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BLOCK WITH BLOCK

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The landlord definitely got bro

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[@2Fab4Uowo]

Easy counter to this: Never edge guard ever. Be afraid of the edge. The edge consumes all.

[@aircall2065]

Your opponent just watches you run to center stage

[@Thekingpenguin947]

Become the ledge.

[@EditUnivers75]

Or you can just time your inputs and kill your opponent earlier, bettering your chances of success in the rest of the match. You gotta take risks

[@BooBooBaa-u8c]

that use to be my mindset

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All hail center stage. Everything comes back to center stage.

[@42carlos]

I can't stress how refreshing it is to go into a video without a long intro like "incase you don't know what edgeguarding is..." Just... thank you.

[@Pablo_Martin_aa]

It suprice me looking back at the video and seeing he wenr directly to the topic

[@ElasticLove12]

Mario mains : so your saying I don’t have to always go for a fair every time the opponent even thinks about being off stage? 🤔

[@solowsmash710]

Mario players don’t listen to him he is lying, bow to our lord and savor fair

[@philipkeane6417]

I do that most of the time as a mario main but make sure I have enough resources to recover.

[@dylanenriguehuntington2908]

@@solowsmash710 ALL HAIL FAIR

[@KakuraZenom]

To be fair (lol) this move is so easy to land and so rewarding that you probably should always go for it 😅

[@theblackbasketball]

@@solowsmash710 As a fellow Mario main I agree. For his blasphemous words, he will be sacrificed to the ladder combo and *_F O R W A R D A E R I A L_* gods

[@tusix7251]

1:01 ALRIGHT BOYS THE PLAN IS SIMPLE - Ludwig

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Just wanted to post a comment because there is only one other one thats not two years old. I hope you are okay mental and physical wise no pressure just making sure ur ok

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When he needs to pay his landlord but he lives with his mom

[@LumboDumbo]

What?

[@marshallcoleman4406]

Something hard to explain but rewarding when executed... is conditioning. Know the opponents recovery and options. Then bait and punish. Treat options like a 50/50 low high or RPS aka jump/attack/recover

[@TheTrickmeister]

marshall coleman probably the simplest way of explaining conditioning is letting the opponent get away with a certain option for some time, then punishing the option later on after baiting it. Best saved for taking stocks.

[@Zeyga]

Hope you're doing alright dude!

[@Moss_Dude]

Ok next teach me how to egdeguard without SDing 20% of the time

[@kladen3]

Practice in training room extending as far as you can offstage with your moves to learn their range of how deep you can go and what causes you to SD

[@harmless9336]

You make it more stylish before you sd. It’s not about avoiding the sd, it’s about sding with style

[@Moss_Dude]

@@harmless9336 "It's not about winning, it's about sending a message"

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Look up his video about greediness

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Go to training room

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[@jimhenson7952]

Videos like this are usually super vague and unhelpful but these are really great

[@Domlightning99]

As a luigi main, I appreciate you teaching us how to edge guard ness

[@AGuy-0751]

as a luigi main who has a friend who plays ness, it is very useful

[@chesscat_]

The fact that you can create a video that addresses my mistakes as soon as I recognize them for this long is insane.

[@tylerbrown9631]

The audio is clean. The editing is crisp, and the content is on point. +1 sub

[@PsiVolt]

This was great, I like how the two tips really just boil down to "edgeguard at the right time" but you take it at both ends of the spectrum and work out the issues at both extremes and, more importantly, what you can do to fix them

[@_hurglet]

you are like the only reason I'm any decent at ultimate please come back to me

[@ninjadudezack]

Me, a Mac main: Wtf am I supposed to do with this

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Something tells me he got evicted

[@swap6964]

What the hell are y'all talking about

[@swap6964]

Like genuinly I have no idea

[@ace_stallion]

What about Mario's that go for a forward air literally every single time you're even REMOTELY near an edge?

[@firedodger1265]

1:46 when a Mario hits a FORWARD AERIAL in alpharad

[@archygrey9093]

Because it is extremely satisfying to hit

[@m_e_nere]

Alpharad was patient zero

[@aSaiyan_Cloeku]

Because it’s works for Doc, also but no need to call out someone with a spike. They just die to star KO and that’s what’s fun about fairing with Mario, at ledge cause if it hits they get massively fudged up. Plus it’s just funny af when you kill with sour spot fair as Mario. Cause it’s just baby doc fair . Kek

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i caught that soraru at the end, hell yeah brother

[@kevinarmes9804]

Love it! Suggestions for videos: 1. Specific tricks you can use to edgeguard against specific characters 2. Specific tricks you can you AS certain characters For example if someone has a counter they can jump out and use it against Ridley's up b Or Ness can use charged down Smash yo yo for most recoveries.

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Man I don't even play smash but you can still apply most of your videos to other platform fighter games always nice to watch

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You know, I feel like cloud is just little mac with a sword

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You cried to this video?

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@@chaomasterzero4610 nah a video that’s unlisted now.

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Always high quality videos

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Last time I was this early tournaments weren't online

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That was like, 20 years ago or something

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Best video I have ever seen

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Your content improves video after video...that's kinda inspiring

[@gabrielemmanuelli3375]

Very good content bananaboy. From the looks of it, I edgeguard way too fast from what I see. This is something I want to fix, thanks for the tips

[@sooshi4560]

Nice Ludwig reference

[@brandtforester837]

Any edge guarders in the chat?

[@lalka4004]

Thanks dude, now i'll be able to edgeguard with ease at *Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix*

[@roy_mezz-awake2470]

That clip at about 8:00 in the video made me think about how being put in a tech scenario can work, because if you hit the tech, your opponent becomes very punishable. In this example, Captain Falcon is caught up in Ganondorf's Up-B, but Falcon hit the tech, so he could easily go for either a B-Air or F-Air, depending on whether or not he grabbed the ledge.

[@lynniagaming]

literally 2am, why am I up?

[@LSmashUlt]

Same

[@frosticle6409]

12:30am for me lol

[@lymmy9609]

So u can say Steve is coming out tommorow and it be true

[@whiteboxwithbluelights1473]

I suffer from the same problem sometimes 😴

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I haven't watched in like a year but congrats for 100k!

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Been watching you since ultimate's release, i see half of your vids are deleted or privated. What happened man?

[@clutchathan1476]

I don’t know if I can brake my habit of using a fair with Mario offstage every time lol

[@rosewarrior706]

That’s understandable it’s a way of life not just a habit

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Super educative, thank you, Bananaboy! :)

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Love your video, I really wanna get better at playing smash and this wonderful tips will help me bro, you deserve more like and my respect!

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I haven't played Smash in a month. Thank you for being reliable.

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Since I’m a bayo main so this video spoke to me on a spiritual level I havent even watched it yet

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Bro please come back 😢

[@RanserSSF4]

One thing you can also do is mix-up when you edge guard alongside your ledge trap game or vice verse. I usually ledge trap a lot to make the opponent think I'm waiting, than once in a while, I'll go off-stage to attempt a edge guard when the opponent doesn't expect it, and possibly get a stock. I've done this a lot in friendlies, locals (before the pandemic happened), and recently a wifi regional bracket, and I won some rounds and took stocks because of it. It's the same case as this video, mixup your ledge trap and edge guard attempt to bait opponents to secure the stock or maintain stage control.

[@formestaken]

The cloud part was so true and helpful.

[@ratsmacker676]

*This guy inspires me to play quickplay, then when I do that I get matched with a Ness that has items, FS Meter, and 1 minute.*

[@Horfact]

We still miss you :(

[@elijahkarnouk7289]

me watching as a mac main "you dont need that offstage side b, just ledge pressure man *heavy breathing*"

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this video and, by proxy, this channel is awesome something like the asumsaus of helpful advice !! i hope ur doing well 🍌 !

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Love me some ludwig references

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Any edge guarders in the chat?

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BananaBoy has really helped me get better!! I have really improved!!👍

[@rapasdecoeur7017]

The plan is simple, I'll try this

[@brandtforester837]

Any edge guarders in the chat?

[@luansomething380]

My edge guard habits: opening the menu and hoping for magic burst lol

[@nathanbattraw5803]

BananaBoy: Ok make sure to watch out for Chrom's up b, its very dangerous Incineroar mains: I'm about to end this man's whole career

[@RefractionIX]

This is so very helpful! Thank you!

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Damnn bananaboy watches ludwig, didnt expect that

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“punish them” shows a picture of a belt

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Kinky!

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Thought it was a sub collar at first, either way, my girlfriend is a bratty sub, so can relate

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“PK Fire” Moaned Ness

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@@beckettherbert6544 He’s a child

[@TheRabidChipmunk]

Quick tip: a great way to bait options from your opponent offstage without putting yourself at risk is to empty jump offstage and immediately come back. Lots of players will see you coming after them and will pick an option before they realize it was a ruse

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never would've thought I'd hear monogatari music in a smash video

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I love the lain gif at 0:20

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8:18 a few frames of yoshi with vibe check face

[@vyrawllxo300]

I love hitting a neutral B limit with cloud when they try to jump at me, it’s so satisfying.

[@vossboss220]

7:50 as a ness main it fills me with unbelievable joy to unintentionally kill someone at 40% for free while trying to save my own stock

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It may not seem like it, but this really separates the bad from the good players.

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UR BACK TO THE BLUE YOSHI

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I hear that Platinum Disco 👌. I'm platinum satisfied with this video!

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the background music is very epic

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Where'd he go??

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Mental that I caught your comment at less than a days age considering the next latest comment was 2 years ago. Anywho idk he’s just fell off the face of earth it seems.

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@@YallGonMakeMe245 right! It's so strange that there hasn't been any comments in 2 years, makes me think that new comments are being deleted

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@@fallout88881i sorted by new and was just thinking about how the next comment after yours was 2 years ago. very shocking. i wonder what happened to him, hope hes alright

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@@notlucas6859 Stop acting like he is in a terrible situation. It's quite obvious what happened. He's too lazy to continue, and too cowardly to respond to his fans. It's ok, he's a very average person, who's living a very average life.

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4:55 "when hes forced too" *laughs in best airdodge in the game* ...ur serious?

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8:35 ahh yes, what i was actually here for

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Great video as always :)

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BananaBoySSB: ok look at everything he does, then make a well-calculated plan to counter his plan. Me: Do I really look like a guy with a plan?

[@enchilada1792]

Damnit! Now everyone knows how to edgeguard my 2 mains! Helpful vid tho!

[@Nonsense_Inc]

as a mario main, i actually have less problems with edge guarding. if some one tries to revover low;the cape is the way to go. if some one tris to recover high; cape, forward air and up air could do it; recovering in a neutral height(between the first 2) cape or forawrd air

[@lasko1828]

Something I find funny of myself is how I doubt myself when it comes to edgeguarding with any character, but with the Miis I pretty much go "Screw You" and go for the edgeguards fearlessly even when I know I won't make it back.

[@michaelflatt4663]

Hesitation is defeat.

[@sebastianfernandez6146]

10/10 Ludwig reference

[@alxjr.3847]

Soooo... are we just gonna ignore that hitbox on 9:40?

[@krosshair450]

*laughs in Nikita* But for real, this is a really nice video and it’ll definitely help me in events where Nikita isn’t an option

[@augustokenjihirata1544]

Must be sad failing to edguard Little Mac, but imagine getting edguarded by him

[@DevestatingMan]

I'd quit the game

[@jaydenheimo8040]

You really just made an entire speed art for a single transition

[@monkyyy]

As soon as i started paying more attention to my opponent, i got my first character into elite smash (and it wasn’t even a main so you already know i have a couple in there now)

[@benferrisinverts4198]

3 years will you ever come back or are you done with smash and or youtube?

[@JasonGardner-m2o]

Any chance youd do a yoshi vs byleth vid? Or any vid? Just binged your stuff and tbh id love to see you make more videos and give advice again, seeing as how time may change things, or not?

[@ZappBranniglenn]

I love taking away an opponent's resources one by one in extended edgeguard scenarios. Unfortunately, a lot of character designs have all their good options refresh on hit, so at best I'm just tacking on extra % until they make it back to the ledge. So frustrating.

[@stixsis4656]

BananaBoy come back, I need you

[@really1583]

You know what’s funny ness and Luigi are two of my mains

[@mr.mcflurryco.1034]

I’m gonna say that maybe when ness took the bait maybe shielding to up b or a quick up smash would have been a good punish

[@kiaro1818]

My brain can't handle this

[@solarwolf1336]

As someone with a bratty sub, I appreciate this reference 4:34

[@DanteHikato]

To add on to his point about ledge guarding. If your good enough. People with teleport recoveries are extremely gimpabale. Practice 2 framing.. out of all recoveries teleports (for me) ate the easiest to gimp. Like sheik, palu's zelda's (good zeldas will clip you with the last hit) and mewtwo

[@jordandaigle6227]

I find that if I hesitate to ledge guard, just not edge guarding and apply ledge pressure is better than trying to ledge guard anyway.