BANDS THAT CHANGED THEIR SOUND 2: WAS IT FOR THE BETTER? THE WORSE? OR ARE WE UNDECIDED?

[@zacharyashmore1830]

I saw the thumbnail & thought "damn, Shredlord lost some weight!".

[@Carbonisation]

Shred, shed and swept some weight,

[@Spencer13_]

is Ozempic right for you, Shred?

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- And got taller.

[@jj9487]

Nice to see Levi on the channel

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- It was good having him on too.

[@thadbowman2666]

Thankyou my metal brothers. 🤘

[@Jeff.3]

Just now seeing this and i really thought that levi was shred and thought shred lost a crap ton of weight, not even gonna lie here 😂. Another great video guys!

[@METALBENSCHRONICLES]

Hails Levi good seeing him on the channel! 🤘🤘

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Yeah, it was a lot of fun having him here. He definitely knows his shit for sure.

[@jasoncecala757]

Holy f'n sh*t! Thank you so much for the Dust Bolt recommendation!!! It's so good. I'm checking out the first record right now. I'm a HUGE fan of the Thrash revival. I thought Warbringer's "Worlds Torn Asunder" was one of the best Thrash records I've heard in some time. This band is right there in that same wheelhouse. Although currently , they seemed to have taken different paths musically.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Hey! Not a problem, man! I strongly recommend their first 3 for just some flat out, blistering thrash metal. They definitely share a lot of similarities with Warbringer sure too. Dust Bolt's last 2 I'd say approach them knowing that they sound quite different... and at least for me not in a good way.

[@KevinTarrant-by3fi]

Just subbed to his channel 🤘

[@thrashmaniac99]

Thanks man lol

[@rememberbeginning]

Great show guys! Great to see Levi stop by for an episode. 793 by Enslaved is my favorite metal song of all time. I couldn't say a favorite album from them however. Enjoy pieces of all of their discography. Helheim and Einherjer (both from Norway) are the two I try and keep up with though. Love everything they've done. Building my collection with those two. I have a bunch of early Enslaved though on cd. Amorphis - tales is my favorite Metal album of all time. They've always improved. I better watch the show now 😂 cheers y'all

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! Yeah, he was in town for a bit and I thought this would be a fun one to do since we just started this series. I'd be hard pressed to think of a favorite album by Enslaved let alone a favorite song. There's there's just too many albums I love. I'm familiar with both Helheim and Einherjer but I haven't kept up with them in years honestly. It's hard to say what my favorite Amorphis album is too. They kinda occupy a lot of different territory as well.

[@BronYRaursGallow]

Jon not up for jammin' today? LOL Good job as always, guys.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- He was stuck working otherwise he would have been on for sure.

[@TheMetalGaia]

Yo Nick, love the Necrot shirt! New album is sick.

[@WilliamRyan-h2y]

Absolutely agree with your thoughts on Cattle Decap. To me they get better with each release. How many bands can we say that about? Not too many!

[@kendall3085]

What’s up Levi

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Sup, man

[@Snake3004]

Kreator for the better in my opinion. I love their first era (the first 5 albums), only really like Cause for Conflict from their middle era but my favorite is definitely the newest era.🤘🏻 As for Amorphis, I like all their albums but especially the new-ish era with Tomi Jutson as vocalist so they have changed for the better for me personally, though I still love their first 6 albums as well.🤘🏻

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I think the new era is good but I just doesn't pack the same vicious punch as the older stuff. It feels like it's soaring too much searching for epic hooks rather than nasty thrash riffs. Amorphis is a tough one because there's quality in every era of the band. I would still say they're more consistent now though with Tomi on vocals.

[@eslwgpg1226]

Kreator’s best era for me is Terrible Certainty - Coma Of Souls. The current era started out great but it didn’t take long for them to run out of ideas. Basically Kreator’s discography ever since their return to form pretty much consists of Violent Revolution, Enemy Of God, Enemy Of God II, Enemy Of God III, Enemy Of God IV, etc

[@TylerOtt-ue9ok]

What a great collab!

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man!

[@papichulobr]

good one, boys! This series is great!! Cheers from Florianópolis, Brazil.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! I'm glad you dug the video!

[@Yaummers]

Glad to see Levi on Thralls. Super cool dude! Kreator worse but I still love the newer material, Enslaved waaaay better, Bathory worse unfortunately, and Cattle Decap better.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- It was good having him here. Yeah, I still like newer Kreator but not as much as the old stuff for sure and I'm right there with you on the other ones too.

[@UberNoodle]

I love Kreator, but am I a bad fan if I love Renewal? It's such an interesting album. It really threw me for a loop when it came out. It did take me a while to get used to. And really enjoy Cause For Conflict, especially songs like Catholic Despot. The way it's mixed, it sounds like Mille is right in your ear. Funnily enough, I saw the band early this year, and Mille was being very specific and exacting in his instructions for the crowd, e.g. which segment of the crowd should sing what and when, and how to divide up and when to do a circle pit etc. And if we didn't sing or perform to his precise expectation, he would scold us, and we would believe it. He even tried to pit different parts of the crowd against others with his scolding. I don't think I was alone in feeling a little bit like a admonished and scolded school kid who disappointed the teacher no matter what I did. Lol It was hilarious.

[@tainted_lord87]

I feel like Levi should just join the Thralls of Metal crew from now on. He fits in like a glove. Awesome discussion about band's changing their sound. Specifically about Arch Enemy & Amorphis.

[@thrashmaniac99]

Thanks man. If only I lived closer to them, I would.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Yeah, it worked pretty well on this one for sure and next time he's in town if we have time we might do another one of these.

[@anthonyrain3276]

I Just recently listened to this band cemetery rot. They’re labeled early 90’s OSDM. Anyone in the thralls heard of them?

[@ziopsis]

Some tough ones in that thumbnail, especially Amorphis! I reckon Killing Joke, Deftones, Fates Warning and Savatage would also be tough ones. They each have long discographies and fans of their various eras

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Fore sure. These are always tough because a band could be better or worse for a multitude of reasons and it's ultimately a matter of opinion too.

[@Skycladatdusk78]

Great video, always love this topic. Here's my takes : Enslaved - Better Amorphis - Better Arch Enemy - Worse Kreator - Neutral Tomb Mold - Neutral Cattle Decapitation - Worse Job For A Cowboy - Better Bathory - Neutral Goo Goo Dolls - Worse Dust Bolt - Worse

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! Looks like we only disagreed on a couple here.

[@davidbernard5994]

Job For A Cowboy is definitely miles better than when I first saw them in 2008. Sun Eater and Moon Healer are fantastic albums.

[@Skycladatdusk78]

@@davidbernard5994 100% Agree🤟

[@bschuler6216]

Kreator - Worse Bathory - Better

[@TheMetalGaia]

Seeing Testament and Kreator with my dad next month here in Michigan! Really excited for that one. My pops is a huge fan of both bands as am I.

[@old-mtl-guy]

Early Kreator through 91'92 was their best...I don't hate any of their stuff, but they never really hit the mark as high as they did in the 80's early 90's...although Violent Revolution was pretty close!

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I don't necessarily dislike their current run but I'm with you as the older Kreator albums are generally the sound I look for from them. Violent Revolution through Hordes of Chaos was a pretty strong run though.

[@Neg4tive.]

If you guys make a Part 3 of this video, Coroner should be on there. I love everything about them

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I think they're on the list already and I'm a huge fan of Coroner so there's a good chance we'll talk about them in the future.

[@TheMetalGaia]

Literally no bad albums. Grin is different but it still rips!

[@Neg4tive.]

@@TheMetalGaia I'll give you that, Grin is a very different album but it's amazing!

[@jamieobrien7754]

Kreators Renewal and Cause For Comflict are great albums, coming from a hardcore scene point of view.

[@Igor.J.Delgado]

Suggestions for the next one: Tiamat, paradise lost, ulver, therion, dimmu borgir, ministry..

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

Fuck yeah! I didn't expect Enslaved straight away. They're in my top 3 bands of all time and I especially love the Herbrand era. Anything between Below the Lights and In Times is just great metal music. The newer stuff just keeps improving imo

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I wanted to open with a big one and Enslaved is a band I love talking about anyway. One of my favorite bands an honestly one of the best discographies in metal across the board.

[@old-mtl-guy]

Amorphis has consistently moved the bar up with almost every album since Tomi joined as the singer, the songwriting, the musicianship is always on another level...great band!

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- That's hard for me to say definitively since The Karelian Isthmus and Tales From the Thousand Lakes are 2 of my favorites as well as Tuonella but since Tomi joined the band they've been consistent as hell.

[@callumnichols7652]

I can't wait for y'all to talk about GNR in this series.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I mean... I'm not a fan but I'd say they went from meh to "holy shit that's bad" lol

[@callumnichols7652]

@@thrallsofmetal I wholeheartedly agree. The only good thing about them is that we got Velvet Revolver.

[@paulseidler1644]

Blood Fire Death is my favorite Bathory

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Killer album for sure.

[@CurranSpeakman]

Nice Wraith shirt I have the same one 🤘 just got at the exciter/midnight/wraith/hellwitch show in boston

[@thrashmaniac99]

I got mine at the Cincinnati show

[@NocturnalSilence45]

I read that Angela personally selected Alyssa to be her replacement in Arch Enemy.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- She made a good pick for sure. I just think the music has become pretty dull.

[@Igor.J.Delgado]

​@@thrallsofmetal ditto.. Alyssa is great, Loomis is awesome, but the music got blander and blander

[@thehakiguy7006]

Let me guess. Jammin Jon was undecided on whether or not he wanted to do this video?

[@DinoSoGreat5000]

I was so happy you guys brought up Arch Enemy...Since Alyssa took over vocals, it felt like the band does not know how to write songs around the actual talents of Alyssa White-Gluz. By the way. Humanure was an awesomely nasty album. I love Cattle Decapitation

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I would have to agree there. Alyssa is an immensely talented to vocalist but they got her kinda trapped in a bland melodeath box with their current run of releases. Humanure still rules and it's still my favorite album cover from them lol.

[@DinoSoGreat5000]

@thrallsofmetal They remind me nowadays to Floor Jansen era-Nightwish but without the pretentiousness. They have these incredible and versatile female vocalists but the songwriters (Michael Amott and for Nightwish, Tuomo) have proven incapable or unwilling to adapt and diversify the writing so these ultra talented vocalists can really shine

[@michaelc3656]

I agree a million percent with Cattle Decapitation. They were not a great band before (a bad band, really), but they slowly got better, and their last 4 albums have all been bangers. They're a great band now and I'd love to see where they go in the future.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Honestly, I never thought Cattle Decapitation was bad at all but I do think they've gotten better as their sound has evolved.

[@brettgleadell3576]

I bought Amorphis the Kareluan Isthmus when it came out due to the artwork and fell in love but they lost me when the clean vocals started to dominate their sound and haven't even looked at them since

[@PiranhaWhale1]

Damn, shame Nick isn’t a big fan of the Viking metal stuff from Bathory. I personally really really enjoy that era of bathory. I think the switch was a really good thing for him because he was able to get more creative with his song writing and he was an incredible musician. Plus Quorthon was ruining his vocals with how he was doing vocals on the black metal albums so we might’ve not have gotten any more music if he continued and couldn’t sing anymore.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I wasn't for a lack of trying. I just can't get into the vocals and I miss that black metal viciousness they had on the earlier albums but I get people liking one era more than another with this band since they're so distinctly different. To me with his cleans being unappealing to me I could have stood him screaming his guts out for the remainder of his career but it arguably might not have worked with the musical direction.

[@PiranhaWhale1]

@@thrallsofmetal I fully get not liking Quorthon’s cleans, but imagine he is a gruff Viking singing all those songs. I think his rough singing works in the style. Also I agree that under the sign of the black mark is the best of the black metal era, my 3rd favorite behind Hammerheart and Nordland II

[@lutfimakarim8258]

If you ever do part 3, how about doing Helloween? Their first album, Walls of Jericho, is straight up speed metal.

[@OelAha-il6jvajakav]

Do a W.A.S.P. ranking i think that would be intresting

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Unfortunately they're not in this round of voting but I'd eventually love to rank their albums.

[@derrickkowalewski9239]

I'm from the Buffalo area and Goo Goo Dolls played hardcore shows early on. They even played with Cannibal Corpse in the late 80's.

[@bjwaters]

Another fun video, even if I don't really know any of these bands. 😅 I remember catching some of the earlier Dust Bolt stuff and liked what I heard, but never got around to them. Shame they dropped off. Just to repeat a few I mentioned on the first video: Iron Maiden (prog?), Bolt Thrower, Death, Black Sabbath (post Dio). I think they all have later periods that are different in their own way.

[@HeavyArtTalk]

Cattle Decap is the epitome of a “glow up” band. Continuous improvement, ambition, and focus. Much respect!

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I'd have to agree. Not as though they started off rough but I feel like they keep getting better here lately. Also finding a way to be catchy and still brutal as hell I think has kept their old fans around and garner them new fans too.

[@joerg721]

Totally agree with Nick about Bathory. I started with BFD and worked my way back, too. When Hammerheart came out, I was like Wtf... Never bothered to listen to another album after that. Meh!

[@getdrippy4416]

Maaaan. Honestly Tomb Mold, their older and new stuff. Only gets better for me with each listen. Aperture Of Body is one of the best EP/demo(s?) I've ever heard in the genre.

[@old-mtl-guy]

Cattle Deacapitation has evolved over every single album - they have improved as musicians immensely. I absolutely love the progression from them!

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I think they got better but I think it was a slower progression and I still see The Harvest Floor as the bridge between their older sound and the sound of the last 4 albums. They've killed it at every turn of their sound though.

[@rastislavzrelak9238]

Arch Enemy definitely Angela Gossow era, Bathory till Twilight, Kreator - Renewal is absolute banger sorry every pair of eardrums is different, favourite Coma of souls, nice review as always

[@ilves6664]

Hello! I"m a finnish guy. And i think that Amorphis is like wine. Gettin better year after year. Funny because i never drink wine. 😮

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Sup, man! For the most part I have to agree here.

[@UberNoodle]

Good wine! Not the stuff in a cardboard box. That's like Arch Enemy I guess. Haha.

[@VampireJack10]

Amorphis have nearly a flawless back catalogue. Great band in all 3 eras. I cannot wait for their next release.

[@henrywalton5967]

I saw them live at Tuska this year and his vocals live sound exactly like the albums I was surprised!

[@Ert604]

It’s a prerequisite that the new guy has to wear sunglasses as well

[@LongLiveRockAnRoll]

I prefer Viking Bathory to black metal but I understand why others would think the opposite. Amorphis are great in all eras. I love the Magic and Mayhem re-recordings of older songs with the newer line-up. Enslaved are great whenever too.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Honestly, Bathory had such distinctly different eras for the band that I can totally understand people being a fan of one era verses the other. I love pretty much all of Amorphis's stuff and the same goes for Enslaved. Amazing live bands too.

[@BigDawg8907]

Job For A Cowboy is definitely better now. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just blatantly wrong or deaf

[@martinnapier6286]

Great video as usual. Agree with Amorphis and Enslaved. Although the style changed the quality never did. My favourite albums are Silent Waters and Axioma Ethica Odini. Also not a popular opinion but i think recent Arch Enemy is great and Deceivers is among their best.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! Yeah, changing styles and maintaining a level of quality songwriting can be tough but Enslaved and Amorphis did well with that. Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of Deceivers but I do think that newest single they dropped sounds better than I've heard from them in awhile.

[@TheMetalGaia]

Tomb Mold's last album is definitely blended with the work Derrick is doing with Dream Unending. The 2 albums he's done under that name are incredible. But I agree I usually go for Manor or Planetary when listening to Tomb Mold.

[@TheMetalGaia]

That being said, seeing them live and hearing the new songs was awesome. That back to back with Horrendous playing the entirety of their last album in full was a surreal experience.

[@samsaalfeld4273]

Great list guys. As I was watching I thought “oh shit! I need to bring up Behemoth! They changed a bunch too!” So if you are going by viewer suggestions, mine is Behemoth. Demigod to Evangelion are perfection for me

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! Yeah, I still have Behemoth on the list so we're definitely going to bring them up at some point on one of these.

[@tibicostea2029]

a breath of fresh air to see someone not echoing Nicks opinions all the time. more of this collab.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Still on that one, huh? lol

[@tibicostea2029]

@@thrallsofmetal its what sticks out the most and what your channel is lacking. variety of opinions. so of course still on that.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- So even if we agree on something... we should disagree for the sake of variety... right? Man, it's like we've had this discussion before lol

[@tibicostea2029]

@@thrallsofmetal he agrees with you because you recommend him all the music he has access to and is vastly influenced by you since you spend much time together I presume. its not about disagreeing for the sake of variety. maybe get on the panel people that are not under your direct influence. like this video.

[@tibicostea2029]

@@thrallsofmetal shredlord disagrees with you as well sometimes but he barely is on once every few months.

[@lutfimakarim8258]

Is that Shredlord?

[@tomasjonsson7141]

Shredlord got shreded 😹

[@parisite99]

Cattle and Job got a lot better with time and musical change!

[@gtafans93]

Kreator is interesting. 90's Kreator is good and fun, Not perfect but an interesting side track from the flat out thrash and I think was worth it considering how much better 2000 to now Kreator is. Without that 90's push I'd argue we never would of gotten hordes of chaos, Phantom Antichrist, Gods of violence and Hate Über Alles a mix of old and new. For me kreator got better a lot better. Can't say that about many of the thrash bands that changed there sound and try to come back

[@chrissullivan3654]

You guys look like metalhead twins.

[@paulseidler1644]

Kreator is my favorite band, but i gotta go with those first 5 albums for preference even though the modern stuff kicks decent ass. Coma of Souls and Pleasure to Kill are on my short list of all-time favorites. Side note: Please do Kreator whenever you guys decide to tackle more thrash rankings lol

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Yeah, I'm the same way. Those early albums from Endless Pain all the way to Coma of Souls is incredible. They did have a drop off in my opinion but they're pretty much back to being killer again. At some point I'd love to rank them.

[@xtransxcorex]

Bathory going from blackened thrash/first wave black metal to Viking metal would have crushed me as a teenager, if I was like 25 years older. I am not a big Viking metal fan

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I didn't crush me but I was disappointed that, in my opinion, they peaked so early with their black metal sound.

[@Shawner1000]

WHO DAT IN THE THUMBNAIL?!

[@tomasjonsson7141]

Nicks long lost son 😎

[@rusbell2981]

Nick, he's awesome!

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Just some random vagrant we paid in cheese and a pack of Kools

[@Shawner1000]

@@thrallsofmetal lol I have seen a few reviews from this guy. I will allow it.

[@RWalters81]

Is thrashmaniac from Ohio too?

[@thrashmaniac99]

Yep. Just about 5 hours south

[@RWalters81]

@@thrashmaniac99 Cool. I'm in Cincinnati. Probably been to alot of the same shows over the years.

[@shreddiekrueger359]

Carcass hits both ways for me. I like all their stuff but imo, their sound got better on “Necroticism”. I like “heartwork” and the later albums but I prefer Carcass with a little raw edge. Maybe not as raw as “ROP” but raw nonetheless. That shit was perfected on their third release.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- We covered Carcass in the first one. I like most of their eras. I think Reek is a more of a novelty for me but Symphonies fucking rips. Heartwork and Necroticism are like 1A and 1B for me and I've loved the last 2. The only one I can't get into outside of a couple of tracks is Swansong.

[@crankypest2617]

With Cattle Decap Death Atlas and Terrasite are favorite albums of there’s and I truly think they are better.

[@DeathTragedy666]

Enslaved have consistently changed their sound from album to album. An example of a band that goes beyond conventions and never seems to plateau, so to speak. They never seem to run out of creativity despite the few last records feeling more familiar and predictable. Don't get me wrong, they are still great albums. Enslaved could easily surprise us on their next record. Same thing for Cattle Decapitation: consistency is a keyword to describe them as well. And Arch Enemy... how the mighty have fallen. Ever since Alessa took over, I don't know. Not the same flavor. Tomb Mold have made a giant evolutionary leap on their last record. It's incredible. I still love their "old" sound, but it still remains grounded and rich death metal in my opinion. P.S. Another band we could add on there is Wayfarer. Even though it's subtle, you can still hear a change in their sound from their debut to now.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Agreed on Enslaved. Pretty much every album feels like an incremental progression from the one before it in a way. The band must live near a well of endless creativity because I'm still impressed with their songwriting and their sound remaining 100% their own. Yeah, Arch Enemy seem to have hit cruise control on a very bland era of their sound. It's to the point where I feel like they just make albums so they have a reason to tour. I love everything by Tomb Mold so it's hard for me to say they got better but I'd argue that as musicians they improved so it's a bit more blurry there. I need to jam more of Wayfarer's stuff honestly as I've only really listened to their last 2 which I loved.

[@rockmovieswithtyler1989]

Ok...wasn't expecting Goo Goo Dolls...and you shit on one of my Gateway albums great just fucking great😵😶‍🌫️...ok...maybe I'll give the earlier stuff a shot for sure!

[@agatopipa]

I want to share my opinion about KREATOR sound. This what happened between masterpiece called "Coma of souls" and "Renewal" was really too much for many fans. I can compare this situation to PARADISE LOST and their transformation between "Draconian times" and "One secod". I love all four mentioned albums, but in both cases this transformation was... I don't know - it would be better to change band name or have a "solo project" or something. BUT (Nick's favorite word :) For me "Cause for conflict" was amazing album with YES ! amazing sound. It has a little bit industrial taste (just like "Odium" by MORGOTH), but it was so RAW. So "primitive". So "not-over produced". Dirty, simple modern thrash metal sound. For me "Cause" is second, next to "Coma" favorite album from KREATOR. "Cause for conflict" was a hope for returning to thrash roots, and for this reason I never understand why "Outcast" and "Endorama" were so ... commercial. One more thing - im my opinion logical transformation would be if "Cause for conflict" would be released just after "Coma of souls", and then "Renewal" as a sign of beginning of big transformation, leading to "Outcast". So, I will never agree that "Renewal" = "Cause for conflict" as symbol of band leaving their thrash roots. "Cause for conflict" is amazing, powerfull, raw album ! Howgh !

[@agatopipa]

AMORPHIS had their best sound on "Privilege of evil". THIS is quintessence of Finnish Death Metal ! Even the same songs on their debut album sounds better on this EP.

[@davidbernard5994]

Enslaved makes you think you know what they're doing with all the prog, then they slap you in the face with a song or two of pure black metal, awesome stuff. One of my favorite bands period. Amorphis are exactly what their name implies, shapeless formless. Another very favorite band of mine.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Every album from Enslaved is an adventure and as familiar as the sound has become there's always a fun surprise or two on their albums. I love all their music. Amorphis might have one low spot for me but most of their stuff is killer and much like Enslaved they have a sound that is completely their own.

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

Roots of the Mountain is the coolest combo of melodic cleans, harsh black metals, and double bass drumming, all synced up perfectly during the last 2-3 min of the track

[@sadekx5251]

I love the first 4 Bathory records but after that I just cannot stand Quorton's clean vox, one the worst ever. it amazes me that nobody mentions Waltari when ppl talk about Sami from Kreator, one of the best fusion metal/funk/rock/industrial band ever, they have been around since 1990. Up there with Faith No more & Mr Bungle. How about adding Paradise Lost & Voivod to the list?

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Yeah, I'm the same way. When I heard Hammerheart and the cleans on that it just took me right out of the music which honestly is pretty solid. I've tried with the other albums in the "viking era" of Bathory but it just doesn't click for me. I'm honestly not familiar with Waltari so I'll have to check them out at some point.I believe both Paradise Lost and Faith No More are already on the list so you'll see them in the future for sure.

[@liametheridge9148]

I think in terms of the bands in the thumbnail, Amorphis, Enslaved, Arch Enemy, Cattle Decap and Job For a Cowboy all got better, particularly Amorphis and Enslaved. Kreator got much worse in the 90s but became killer again, and I'm neutral on Bathory and Tomb Mold I'm so fucking glad you brought up Dust Bolt though, I forgot about them for a hot minute, their first 3 albums are great but my god they fell off! Nick, you mentioned the newer thrash bands who were once great but abandoned thrash. The one that made me angriest was Lost Society with their newest album. Granted they kind of began to move away from the thrash by their third album, but what they were doing by then was still pretty solid. I even really like most of No Absolution, but holy fucking shit their newest album is one of the biggest piles of shit I've ever heard. Generic metalcore(ish) riffs with really cringey Linkin Park-esque choruses. It's even more egregious when you remember how good Fast Loud Death and Terror Hungry were! 🤣

[@angelesoinsectos]

Pretty decent takes, but Hammerheart is an amazing album, and I'm not a fan of the later stuff or viking metal. Epic AF.

[@joeylummox7330]

John looks different

[@CH-ml4rz]

New sunglasses

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- He got taller. 2nd puberty or something I guess.

[@michaelschafer7920]

See i was actually a fan of doom from JFAC that being said im happy they shifted into death metal and i think doom has element s of death metal on it so they were already shifting into deathmetal already in my opinion

[@ionutbarliba]

Enslaved is top class on every album, maybe except Monumension which is still good, at least for Convoys to Nothingness.

[@nelsonshuchmacherendebo7688]

Nick looks so different, and who’s that guy next to him who looks like Nick?

[@thrashmaniac99]

That would be me 😅

[@nelsonshuchmacherendebo7688]

@@thrashmaniac99 🤣🤣🤣

[@griffinbratton8903]

Lost Society kinda got worse. Even though I like No Absolution (Blood On Your Hands is an absolute banger!), If The Sky Came Down made me think Linkin Park might wanna call their lawyers. So disappointing.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Yeah, that one's on the list and spoiler alert I was not a fan of the change for pretty much the same reasons. Loved their earlier material though.

[@Feelthedorkness]

Hold Me Up and Superstar Carwash by Goo Goo Dolls (the two preceding Boy Named Goo) are really great The Replacements/Husker Du-esque rock albums. I'm a huge fan of 80s punk and hardcore, but I honestly just don't think they were that good of a punk band.

[@jasonboardman2796]

I agree with you I have a special place of my heart when they strip away with the angry punk music. And yeah I'm still kinda butt hurt about that part of the video really but fine to each their own I guess😆😆

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I really didn't go much beyond the debut and Jed but I know for sure I liked them a hell of a lot more than Boy Named Goo and onward. I love punk and hardcore and those first 2 were pretty solid and even occasionally had some crossover thrash moments.

[@INTOTHEPIT]

Lost interest in Kreator after Cause for Conflict

[@lawrencefine5020]

I liked the first Bathory album, but I think they got worse. Gone were the blast beats and pure evil of the first album. They got worse. For me, Hellhammer was the first Black Metal band they inspired thousands of Black Metal, and Thrash Metal. Hellhammer even inspired another band to name themselves after a Hellhammer SONGS. THAT'S INSPIRATION. I think the big fat elephant in the room is Metallica. And that's all I'll say about that.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Man, I love that debut but I think the peak was Under the Sign of the Black Mark. That album is simply amazing but I still love the raw, sleezy evil that the debut brings. I can see the argument with Hell Hammer being the first black metal act though. Hell, I'd put them up there with the first metal bands that could've been called "extreme metal". We covered that elephant in the first one. There was no way we were going to miss that one.

[@ndfnq7811]

Renewal is an awesome album and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I don't think it's terrible but I will say I'd take any of their albums before that though.

[@dmphax]

Amorphis is sooooooo fucking good. Definitely better. Arch Enemy was fantastic with Angela. Now? Mehhhhh... Nailed it, Alissa isn't the issue... it's Michael Amott plateau-ing. Let's not forget, AE lost Chris Amott with Angela, and tbh, I think Chris is the more creative mind of the brothers.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I'm a long time Amorphis fan and minus Far From the Sun I dig pretty much everything they've released. The Angela years were pretty solid but yeah, I just can't get into much of the Alissa material despite her being a solid vocalist. The music is just flat and predictable at this point. I think Chris and Michael have a tense relationship and I've heard that Chris can be hard to work with. His stays with bands seem to be short here lately.

[@dmphax]

@@thrallsofmetal Nick yes for sure!! He was only with Dark Tranquillity for a short time, which is a damn shame because I really like his playing. Him & Bill Steer are my 2 favourite guitarists in metal.

[@Gregbaltzer]

Musically I liked the change in Bathory, but vocally Quorthon can not sing....at all. I'm with you, I loved Arch Enemy through those first 4 albums with Angela, but by Kaos Legions they lost me. Every fucking song felt like they were about inspiring teenagers to rise up. I just couldn't relate. And I started to hate that the entire band dressed like they were a nascar pit crew. I agree on 90's Kreator...pass. However I still like their new stuff. Gods of Violence might be my favorite Kreator album since Coma of Souls. I enjoy newer Kreator more then newer stuff from Exodus, Megadeth, Death Angel, or Testament. If you do a part 3 you have to do Voivod, C.O.C., Satyricon. There are the Black Metal purist who hate everything Satyricon did after Vanity Nemesis. Fuck the haters, I love the song King. When I heard it on a Brave Words Bloody Knuckles sampler, I played that song on repeat on that sampler. I love all eras of Satyicon. They were 100% my gateway band into second wave Black Metal. Suicidal Tendencies, while I still enjoy them, really went worse starting with Age of Rebellion.

[@simplebutnotsolongname6642]

Dunno about Quorthon not being able to sing. I definitely think he improved overtime, especially when you get into his solo stuff. Deep from his Purity of Essence album definitely showcased the growth and playing to his strengths vocally and Songwriting-wise.

[@joshuascott3428]

And hard weirdo from me but i Love Endorama

[@michaelc3656]

Endorama is awesome. :D

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Hey. If you love it then that's cool by me. I just can't get into that one... or Outcast either honestly.

[@44DoubleZer00_Studios]

If Six Feet Under is the "Chris Barnes Band," Arch Enemy is the "Michael Amott Band." I hate how Michael has taken the roots of the band and literally just allows complete boring, stock songwriting be integrated in what used to be a kickass band. Alissa has always been a great vocalist, nun wrong with that. The lyrics are dumb as hell, but vocals are great. Michael is just this lazy riff man that doesn't like to go beyond his playability. He became the Lars Ulrich of Arch Enemy. I'll just say it, Michael Amott sucks.

[@careful...Icarus]

Still wishing Amott would drop Arch Enema and do Spiritual Beggars again.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Dude! I miss that band!

[@davidbernard5994]

I honestly thought I was one of their 12 fans. Nobody I know seems to know Spiritual Beggars. 😂

[@ScreaminT81]

Hot take, Amott became soft and sucked after Heartwork

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I gotta disagree because those early Arch Enemy albums are pretty bangin' in my opinion but to each their own.

[@Ozzy.Knuckles.666]

Necrotch not a good band

[@INTOTHEPIT]

Arch Enemy was best with the male singer. That female screamo style got old very quickly. Now it’s arch enema

[@The_JustJoshing]

Really cool to see Levi on the channel

[@thrashmaniac99]

It was fun for sure

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- It was good having him here.