Barbarian class changes in the new D&D PHB

[@Aodhs_Ember]

*Angrily sneaks* *Angrily pulls out magnifying glass and inspects*

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Angry sneaking is just screaming so hard that people think you faded out of existence.

[@nateexists6292]

"YOU NO SEE CRUD!"

[@verna268]

I can totally see a barb's enemy being someone personal, but the reage isn't loud. It's silent. A hate intensity with a glare to burn through diamonds. Waiting just for the right moment to take them out.

[@cowz1259]

Heavy stealth

[@nekopunk]

​@@Aaa-vp6ug either that or you scream so loud that the sound warps the light around you so you become invisible

[@TheStelou27]

I love to imagine a rage perception check is just the berzerker lifting every thing that's not attached to the ground to find stuff

[@Tjalve70]

"Lifting"? I think you mean "smashing".

[@9jayman0]

​@@Tjalve70 They're defying gravity and other science laws out of pure rage full spite. That thing knows better than to follow the laws of physics when the Barbarian makes it do something impossible. Krod had these features before play tests.

[@creeprvictor]

​@@Tjalve70its both, they lift it, then they smash it

[@Tjalve70]

@@creeprvictor I was thinking "smashing everything to pieces". But ok..

[@raysay1818]

It's like Link with any sort of ceramic pot. Run up, grab it, throw it, check for loot, repeat

[@Ace-Of-Luck]

"Use rage for perception checks" I love how this implies barbarians have better eyesight when they're pissed the fuck off

[@roboticgentlemen1970]

That's me when the kids lose the remote

[@Loller271]

Or they just break the place down until they find something

[@enzovulkoor]

​@Loller271 or the npcs just give it to them so they still have any possessions intact.

[@jessevancooney6963]

"I don't trust that person. I want to rage insight him"

[@morphingninja]

"WHERE ARE THEY?!" Terrified bystanders point in the direction.

[@azurrayne4140]

"So, do you see the hulking, raging barbarian sneaking by?" *they meet eyes with each other* "... what barbarian?" "Okay, just wanted to make sure my eyes were deceiving me."

[@AReaderOfHorror]

*_"You do not seeee Grod"_*

[@randomtrashbag708]

Random goons when they walk into a room and see batman

[@grendl74]

@@randomtrashbag708 THIS

[@Moone-Corp]

*YOU DO NOT SEE TYBEROS OF THE RED WAKE!!* **Chaingauntlet Noise Intensifies*

[@katiepatterson3160]

“Only two things see Krod: dead things and things that know better than to admit it.”

[@nicholaswilliams6475]

“Stealth checks” Imagine being so angry that you turn invisible lol.

[@zach11241]

Not so much that you're turning invisible than it is someone saw a hulking mountain of meat getting so aggressively angry that their self preservation kicked in and their mind pretended they saw literally nothing.

[@wumpusrat]

@@zach11241 "Rarrrgh, I'm so mad he can see me! RAAAAGE!" "Rarrrrgh, I'm so mad I lost track of that guy!" "Rarrrgh, I'm so mad I can't solve this crossword puzzle!" etc. Yeah, seems pretty ridiculous. :)

[@Voron_Aggrav]

@@wumpusrat look, if there's a guy that Definitely looks like he'd punch my ticket, Going around in a Rage, I've got better places to be, like Anywhere but here

[@terjeolsen2914]

Dead men tell no tales, so of course he can pass unnoticed... 😂

[@codymarshall587]

@@wumpusratwell, you literally can’t make int checks with strength. You made that up, that does sound pretty ridiculous though. Have you ever seen a panther or a mountain lion stalk their prey? That stealth. Have you ever noticed how damn near every animal on the planet has better eyesight or hearing or smell than humans? That’s perception. A barbarian’s rage is now flavored as a sort of primal energy coursing through them and turning them into an apex predator-esque creature

[@uctsuki7396]

Dumb and dumber? ❌️ Barbarian and Barbarianer ✔️

[@Mr.Blank73]

Barbarian and barbariner❌ Meth and phetamine✅

[@PancektheGreat]

Teedledumb and tweedledumb-er

[@bearwitty9690]

Fish and fisher.

[@midilobisim_akamechnick4969]

Raging barbarian = barbrainier

[@hunterpatterson6986]

My thinking is that the rage checks are more like the barbarian relying on natural instinct, kind of turning the brain off and not overthinking things. Just. Perceiving, understanding, all through the magnificent rage

[@ricoselkum]

You've described wisdom.

[@someoneidk3995]

​@ricoselkum wisdom.still requires intent. This version of Rage is symbolic of something more... i guess supernatural at play. As if using your emotion to enhance ur abilities.

[@ricoselkum]

@@someoneidk3995 Nope, maybe in real life, but in D&D don't. I hope that you understand the difference, if you can't a psychology would be able to. No sane DM will allow using rage and STR modifier to enhance perception.

[@Damini368]

@@ricoselkumWell toss sane out the window because the new official rules, in fact, do explicitly allow it

[@ricoselkum]

@@Damini368 Rules? You mean the guidelines.

[@Primearch-GG]

Alright... Barbarians are now subclassed to Krod, the Angry Carpenter Barnarian... #WorldHeritagePosts

[@1VANT3RR0R]

Only two things see Krod. Dead things and things that know better than to admit it.

[@romangracias606]

YOU NO SEE KROD

[@silver_dusk]

@@1VANT3RR0R i can hear zacspeaksgiant's voice in my head whilst reading this lmaooo

[@danielcanty5727]

Yesssss​@@silver_dusk

[@MaskedReviews]

😂 My first thought too!

[@permafrostassassin8864]

Barbarians mains ASSEMBLE

[@Grim_death144]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@WarmasterWirMustard]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[@darklink-ih3hc]

GGGRRRRIIIFFFFFFIIIIITTTTHHHH!!!!!!

[@Satan_on_methamphetimine]

@@WarmasterWirMustardSKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

[@ryanweible9090]

@@Satan_on_methamphetimine TACOS FOR THE TACO BELL!!!

[@Riolunator]

I have done a rage perception check irl. It's something like the tunnel vision from being so angry makes you focus in on something way more. Also good for aiming a throw, somehow hita guy between the eyes with a wooden paper towel holder across 2 rooms and through 2 doorways. He was not even mad, just impressed and confused because a fucking stick flew around the corner at high speed and clocked him in the face

[@dieguy3080]

Yeah, but the tradeoff is that you are less focused on everything that isn't the target of your tunnel vision.

[@kauinoa2004]

Yeah I would accept rage perception checks with a limited scope but how the heck does rage work for all perception checks? Perception is supposed to be a Wisdom check, but rage is an emotion that would normally go directly against that kind of higher thinking. But for something like tunnel vision or aim I could definitely see that

[@JDFsSmith]

Using rage to add strength to perception? Yea that makes sense

[@luxaeterna365]

I know what will make more stealthy, stepping on the floor harder.

[@Insandom]

If you consider rage like a transcendent state where the barbarian pushes their body to the limit, it makes sense. Think Might Guy from Naruto, or Asura from Asura's wrath. Sicko mode.

[@jessevancooney6963]

​@@luxaeterna365its more like barbarian is so intimidating people refuse to admit he's there... like batman

[@ichigokurosaki3703]

Think of it like an adrenaline boost. You become more perceptive when you’re pumped with adrenaline, and usually when you’re angry you’re also full of adrenaline.

[@dndelver]

@@Insandom Yeah, it's like you get in touch with your most primal instincts, sharpening all your senses, like an animal on the prowl

[@YuubiTimberwolf]

Raging to stealth? "YOU DON'T SEE KROD!"

[@josephschubert6561]

Glad I wasn't the only one who remembered that 😆

[@badbeets7621]

How the hell do you use a strength score for PERCEPTION do you just flex really hard pop a blood vessel and gain the knowledge of the universe. And how the hell do you do it for stealth. WHY IS THIS LITERALLY YUJIRO HANMA ASS PULLS. I love it btw just make it make sense.

[@just_a_fun_comedy_chanel]

I just imagine they scream so loud that anyone hiding knows better then to keep hiding

[@25bitgamerx36]

Local barbarian too angry to be seen

[@enzovulkoor]

Your eyes are just held completely open and unblinking. Think omniman pissed off at mark.

[@Insandom]

See rage as a transcendent state where every aspect of the barbarian's body hones to the limit, gifting them with complete control of their body.

[@MercuryA2000]

You know that random grunt who saw Batman and just pretended nothing was there? That's how.

[@overlordchaos7701]

Barbarian uses rage as a perception check is really just him roaring loud enough in hearing the Echolocation

[@hekati7889]

*Angrily sniffs the air* "THERE WERE SEVEN MEN IN HERE"

[@burgerking3763]

Turns rage into on-demand adrenaline. A true force of nature

[@StormBringare]

I just wish they could rename Rage to something like "Instinct" or "Animalism" so it made more sense. Basically, what the Barbie does is willingly disconnect their prefrontal cortex to trust their instincts fully to be more reactive and instinctively perceptive, a Zen like stage if you will.

[@cooperhewett-marx7507]

Trance?

[@chrismcclaughry6857]

Ultra Instinct.

[@green8017]

barbarians are seen as the angry guys for that name even though that isn't even what their about

[@tommenno]

Feral, it should be called Feral now.

[@StormBringare]

@@tommenno There it is. Agreed.

[@CowKirbo]

Wait you're telling me that being angry makes it so barbarians can now be strong to STEALTH?!?

[@Tjalve70]

"YOU NO SEE KROD!"

[@WebSurfer009]

Alternatively all their senses get enhanced. Imagine sneaking around and you can literally can smell, hear and feel (vibrations of someone walking/movement) someone or something getting too close. And then someone rounds the corner and are too scared to say anything.

[@NopeNaw]

It's the Barbarian Mind Trick, he waves his fist into your face, making you immediately forget that he was ever there, and who you are, and what year it is.

[@mranderson9553]

you know the quite rage some people get, the kind where you walk up silently and deck them, that's what i'm imagining

[@TAGfrost]

Raging for an investigation check, those videos where the firefighter is tearing up his room trying to find the beep walkie-talkie. Rage for stealth check, you know see Grod.

[@chongwillson972]

@TAGfrost sadly you can only rage for Acrobatics, Intimidation, Perception, Stealth, or Survival.

[@pootis1699]

Beep

[@joshuapierce3085]

Okay, after reading other comments, i get adding rage to perception checks, but stealth checks? Insight checks? And i think he said "and more"? Yeah, i think they just overpowered rage. Though not surprising that WOTC would do that.

[@chongwillson972]

@joshuapierce3085"You gain proficiency in another skill of your choice from the list of skills available to Barbarians at level 1. In addition, while your Rage is active, you can channel primal power when you attempt certain tasks; whenever you make an ability check using one of the following skills, you can make it as a Strength check even if it normally uses a different ability: Acrobatics, Intimidation, Perception, Stealth, or Survival. When you use this ability, your Strength represents primal power coursing through you, honing your agility and senses."

[@brimfire7536]

​@@chongwillson972yeah, that's literally just power creep. ESPECIALLY if it's a LEVEL 1 feature.

[@chongwillson972]

@@brimfire7536 its a level 3 feature.

[@wumpusrat]

@@chongwillson972 "I'm so angry I can't solve figure out this ancient arcane puzzle!"

[@joshuapierce3085]

@@chongwillson972 if those are all the sections it can affect, then okay, not as overpowered as I thought, though I still definitely question using brute force or "primal power" for stealth.

[@TheNextDr]

"That's my secret, DM... I'm always angry."

[@Wraistlin1]

Rage for perception checks makes sense, imagine being woken up in the middle of the night by an annoying sound, and you'll get it. Plus, angrily glaring at your surroundings for something to smash is pretty accurate. For stealth- think the "calm bloodthirst" of quickly and uncaringly clearing through the goblin guards of a fort, dimly lit by poorly made torches. You run through the darkened halls to arrive in the chamber of the antagonist you're REALLY pissed at- quietly emerging from the shadows behind them and ripping their arms off without valor, flair, or fanfare- only sudden, brutal fury.

[@BrentDnD]

Excellent! I truly hope this becomes a new series for all of the class changes.

[@FifthKazekagGaara]

Angry stealth check: YOU NO SEE KROOOOOD!

[@knightslayer4718]

Will if your certain races while your a barbie you can ways be the parties backpack

[@justicedunham4088]

Rage for strength and intimidation makes sense, but it should be a detriment to perception checks as you’re less likely to notice things when you’re angry.

[@TheKat12364]

I literally just made a force focus barbarian subclass. And you're telling me thats also what they added? That's pretty funny.

[@Aleatory_Guy]

I thought he was just gonna dance when he said "Let me break it down"

[@Zanji1234]

so a Barbarian is now better in sneaking ... when he is pissed off. Great logic xD

[@FantasyAlwaysWins]

"Barbarians are finally useful outside of combat" Barbarian doing... Investigation? Smash Sneak? Angrily stomping Persuasion? Death stare Charisma? Roar

[@morganelli0t]

*angrily walks around the hallway* *Guard notices the barbarian* “YOU! DID YOU HAPPEN TO SEE ME?!” “Oh, wow! The wind sure is chatty today…”

[@trevhart2124]

IDK how raging makes you better at stealing, but the intimidation checks out

[@llareia]

Agree, though 5e already has this concept. Just roll a Strength(Intimidation) check.

[@davidfulop5089]

How do you perceive with strenght??? "me muschles twiching ... smbodys watching!"

[@Aeivious]

I kinda wished they reflavored rage into like "barbarian spirit". Basically a forced way of kicking up your adrenaline which can enhance your senses and manifest in different ways. Rage is cool, but it limits the barbarian both in flavor and in gameplay features.

[@chongwillson972]

@Aeivious its basically has been change to that, but it has to keep the name due to reasons.

[@ts25679]

I still think control is the most important aspect of rage that they've bizarrely never touched on. Instead of barbarians being angry naked fighters, I think they should have to balance the depth (= power) of PC's rage against their willpower to direct, sustain, and survive it. Guts, Hulk, and Naruto are all examples of what I'm talking about. Isn't that part of what makes the class narratively engaging?

[@ethanchastain2239]

I am pretty sure that almost every DM allowed a barbarian to use str modifier for intimidation checks. Being angry in my book would give you disadvantage on stealth checks your mad your not paying attention to your surroundings, and when your mad you pay attention on who your mad at so in that sense it makes but anything else would not make sense. I personally allow my players to use there anger outside of combat without costing a rage but while in combat it does cost a rage point. I will be sticking to 5e. If anyone would like to start a discussion (not an agreement.. please).

[@sekretskwrl5688]

It sounds like some broken homebrew I would find on reddit

[@BeinIan]

"Let's make every class at least decent at everything, defeating the whole point of classes."

[@RoxyGotMoxy.]

Ah, so 4e. Everybody is a reskinned wizard. Perfect.

[@georgeuferov1497]

Being better at some skills = being decent at everything, got it. I mean, now Barbarians can heal, are best at History checks and get a free casting of "summon dumb complainers" once per LR

[@duckmaster5512]

Bards are already jacks of all trades

[@Thomas-zt7dm]

Ah yes because making barbarians better at combat is making them decent at everything lol. Also with rage recharging on a LR I doubt anyone is really going to use that ability to swap a check to strength unless they know a series of checks is coming up or they just happen to be raging at that moment(likely after combat).

[@StormBringare]

​@Thomas-zt7dm 2024 Barbie also gets one use of Rage back after a Short Rest.

[@gonggonglive]

STEALTH? How in the 9 hells does being angry make you better at hiding?

[@Coffy-chan]

So angry you steady your breathing, stand still, blend in, and bide your time for the right moment.

[@Battlesny]

​@Coffy-chan that's monk meditation, not barbarian rage.

[@StormBringare]

Stop thinking anger, and start thinking instinct. Like removing higher thought processes and trusting your animalistic side.

[@Coffy-chan]

@@Battlesny But angry. Angry focus.

[@Kazen169]

strength for perception? nah fuck that noise

[@LuxTheFolf]

I do feel like rage should give you advantage on intimidation checks tho😅

[@joseda3rd354]

A lot of the class changes can be hit or miss depending on your play style but the base Barbarian class is a straight up improvement

[@nani4249]

Improvement in power but not in character, makes no sense you can add strength to every check what is this

[@chongwillson972]

@@nani4249 its not every check what are you talking about, and its not adding str to those , you can instead use str instead.

[@brimfire7536]

​@@chongwillson972tell me how tf using strength makes sense for shit like Medicine, Nature, or fucking History, just for example. I'll wait.

[@chongwillson972]

@@brimfire7536 where did it say that, give me example.

[@senrith_]

Incorrect. It is not all a straight improvement as you can no longer gain ADV on Grapples while raging. Which sucks.

[@winteronice]

So rage can now be used to focus! Strangely realistic.

[@dracondebates]

In 5e, Barbarians can use strength for any skill checks without raging. It’s an optional rule so it’s at DM’s discretion, but it is viable for the 2014 version.

[@paolodibiase9756]

barbarians aggressively stealthing is something beautiful

[@MrDmitriRavenoff]

Strength based stealth checks? Barb maneuvers? Ill go play 3.5 again.

[@countrygeneral]

My thoughts exactly. After seeing all of the bullshit they implemented in 5e 2024 to make players basically OP for no real reason at all, imma switch to 3.5

[@flavioribeiro007]

Intimidation ok, but Stealth? Perception? "Better pretend you do'nt see me OR ELSE...."

[@TheEnchantedPickaxeHDGaming]

2024 wild magic is so broken. For example, "tides of chaos" gives you advantage on any d20 check but you can only use it once until you long rest or when you cast any spell with a spell slot, if you use a spell you get to roll on the magic surge table. (Which was updated to have a lot more beneficial effects and fewer detrimental ones.) The last combat my party got into I used "tides of chaos" to get advantage on firebolt's attack roll. And used "quickened spell" to cast Fire Ball to roll on the surge table and rolled a 3 (1-4 roll on this table at the start of each turn for 1 minute ignore this result on subsequent rolls) then 2 turns later I used "Blink" to disappear at the end of each of my turns for 1 minute if i roll 4-6 on a d6 roll. (You dont reappear until the start of your next turn.) So if you followed all that, that means for the rest of the combat I was unleashing a random effect, used fire ball then disappeared to where no one could hit me at the end of each turn just to reappear at the start of my next turn to do it again. (I infact got lucky enough to roll a 4 or above every time the whole fight). Its insane and thats all just base wild magic now.

[@crimsondragon2677]

Rouge/Barbarian multiclass just got a lot stronger. The quiet kid is now even quieter.

[@notveryartificial4486]

Using strength modifier for stealth checks while angy isn't something I expected to imagine. How would that even work? :D

[@chongwillson972]

@notveryartificial4486 "You gain proficiency in another skill of your choice from the list of skills available to Barbarians at level 1. In addition, while your Rage is active, you can channel primal power when you attempt certain tasks; whenever you make an ability check using one of the following skills, you can make it as a Strength check even if it normally uses a different ability: Acrobatics, Intimidation, Perception, Stealth, or Survival. When you use this ability, your Strength represents primal power coursing through you, honing your agility and senses."

[@anilmehta4714]

Adding rage to intimidation makes sense. But stealth?!

[@carnivalasylum6504]

Apex Dominance is amazing for one of the maneuvers you grapple your opponent and you do 6d10 force damage and if they die from that, it states they get ripped in halve.

[@clydewill2340]

Strength for perception checks? How does that work? You just flex a couple of eyeballs on your biceps into existence for a second or to help you spot the sniper in the trees?

[@chongwillson972]

@clydewill2340 "You gain proficiency in another skill of your choice from the list of skills available to Barbarians at level 1. In addition, while your Rage is active, you can channel primal power when you attempt certain tasks; whenever you make an ability check using one of the following skills, you can make it as a Strength check even if it normally uses a different ability: Acrobatics, Intimidation, Perception, Stealth, or Survival. When you use this ability, your Strength represents primal power coursing through you, honing your agility and senses."

[@clydewill2340]

@chongwillson972 oh, so basically just putting your instincts into hyper-awareness

[@zerosonicdrive]

how exactly does one used rage for perception? it's called " *blind* with rage" for a reason

[@eenpersoonrandomnes6444]

100% accurate, but i still miss the zealot "too angry to die" thingamabob

[@borf2400]

Yo that's actually sick

[@laserkirby9373]

It's kinda cool that you can do a 236H move with Barbs now

[@sarmajere2866]

As a Beserker main in my last game, I'm a little jealous! Time to pull my man back into play. Last I heard, he was liberating gladiators in Calimshan...

[@theodorequakins2636]

Okay, intimidation checks are great, that makes sense, but why the hell should rage help with perception or stealth??

[@PeterZaitcev]

So, they figured out the inner class of Bruce Benner

[@JMac413410]

"Barbarians can finally be useful outside of combat" I am shocked that you never thought to use a desert storm herald barbarian's flaming rage aura to intimidate before. Heck, I even used it to set a guy on fire to get him to spill the beans on the BBEG.

[@penguinfool]

Guard: Who goes there? Barbarian: You saw nothing Guard: I'm sorry wh.. Barbarian: You saw NOTHING, right? Guard: Must have been the wind

[@scorpionsting90]

Barbarian: "well, hello there" Me: general Furiobi, you're an angry one"

[@agusmol1202]

At that point rage is just bullets from Reborn

[@jestersvoice9692]

I know it's supposed to represent the primalness of a barbarian with the strength for perception and other stuff but it feels weird to think about

[@rowanparker4553]

I'm a draconic barbarian in a new season and I pined 2 goblins to the ground and made 1 into a unicorn and another into a football

[@rowanparker4553]

I'm lvl 1 (dm allowed me to pick the goblin up and thrown him but I had to do like 3 rolls) family game also I was using javelins to do the first 3 things to goblins

[@Medri]

Force damage is becoming such a common damage type? Am I confusing it? Wasn't it somewhat rare in prior editions?

[@RhysEdwards-x4e]

"Use rage for stealth checks" Angrily tiptoes around

[@HaughtyToast]

DM: "You'll need to make a perception check. DC 12." Barbarian: * Flexes eyeballs *

[@lcareo]

i 100% agree with the other barbarian because like yeah thats exactly why they asked wdym

[@CrystalSquid14]

I love the new changes to barbarian! I wonder what they did to artificier...

[@RoxyGotMoxy.]

The only way i can justify strength stealthing in my head is the barbarian knowing they need their full might to pull off a maneuver so they rage, spring up and brace themselves in the corner of the ceiling or hold on upside down to a buttress/bannister like a cat.. but while amusing, even that is stupid.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

I justify it by imagine that they scream hard enough to make people think they faded out of existence. Or more realistically, scream hard enough to make telling where you actually are impossible. (it’s super disorientating, and makes gauging angle a nightmare.)

[@Ulfhedin187]

Every scenario is a combat scenario if you have imagination....

[@ElErizoSombra]

Still waiting to hear from WotC how being angry makes you better at hiding lol

[@Stain_Angel]

2024 just fuckin shit up.....recklessly

[@deangoldenstar7997]

Strength modifier stealth check is absolutely moronic. Intimidation makes sense tho.

[@chongwillson972]

@deangoldenstar7997 "You gain proficiency in another skill of your choice from the list of skills available to Barbarians at level 1. In addition, while your Rage is active, you can channel primal power when you attempt certain tasks; whenever you make an ability check using one of the following skills, you can make it as a Strength check even if it normally uses a different ability: Acrobatics, Intimidation, Perception, Stealth, or Survival. When you use this ability, your Strength represents primal power coursing through you, honing your agility and senses."

[@simonsonlyfan8600]

This is like the Hulk raging and just sneaking around and no one notices

[@chongwillson972]

@simonsonlyfan8600 how bout jason?

[@shadowofseattle1338]

3.5had maneuvers available for all martials lol

[@CoffeeSorcerer69]

They gotta change the name of Rage at this point.

[@NopeNaw]

Yeah. They change Ki to Focus for no reason at all, and it's basically the same thing anyway.

[@Ezullof]

"barbarians are finally useful outside of combat" - > tell me you never actually played a barbarian without etc.

[@AndreOliveira-jb2ch]

Yo I main pure barb. Because of life, most times I am the only martial in a group of casters. I end up spending most of the session playing because when there is a problem, they wave it away or take out whole platoons with a single spell. I don't even recall when was the last time and str check was required. Dunnow if I'm playing wrong or just getting unlucky. I remember when we spent several sessions in a city with long rests after every encounter. Needless to say, all O coild do was roleplaying.

[@CaitlinBiddy143]

I’ve never been happier to be a barbarian main 🥹

[@Chaosdragon240]

also to note: Path of the Berserker is about adding more damage *and no longer gives you a level of exhaustion*. Also also, you get 1 rage charge back after a short rest, so you still can't just use em willy nilly, but you do get some kinda benefit from a short rest

[@malachiengland4747]

Barbarians can rage outside of combat it's just a later part of the class however I imagine you can still burn a rage for that little extra strength modifier but it's like a one action thing outside of combat

[@Lusatforsimping]

Can't wait for the Artificier update

[@jonasboel2473]

Why the fuck is it force damage? Force damage is raw magical energy.

[@Thomas-zt7dm]

Not really, if you teleport into a wall or become corporeal in a wall you take force damage. Not from the raw magical energy but from the pressure of being inside a wall.

[@bluehairedemon]

currently playing a 5e barbarian, having a hard time cuz we hadnt had a combat in so long. also I did rage out of combat a few times, most importantly to fix a hole in our ship, had to keep hitting myself to stay in rage

[@NopeNaw]

My favourite barbarian rage power from PF1e is Raging Climber. Because I keep imagining it as the barbarian furiously pushing a tree down into the ground rather than actually climbing up it.

[@Maedhros0Bajar]

"But surely Path of the Berserker still sucks", and there I made a Fairy Barbarian with Path of the Berserker (just because I could)

[@waterierStone]

I'd understand letting barbs use strength for the other dex checks and intimidation, but an angry sneak is nonsense. Imagine the hulk trying to tip toe around.

[@chongwillson972]

@waterierStone hey giant angry sabretooths are stealthy. "You gain proficiency in another skill of your choice from the list of skills available to Barbarians at level 1. In addition, while your Rage is active, you can channel primal power when you attempt certain tasks; whenever you make an ability check using one of the following skills, you can make it as a Strength check even if it normally uses a different ability: Acrobatics, Intimidation, Perception, Stealth, or Survival. When you use this ability, your Strength represents primal power coursing through you, honing your agility and senses. "

[@scydreigonzeta9529]

"Okay, let me break this down for you" 🕺🕺🕺

[@DerrickBarrows]

Wow, I already loved Barbarians. This is so sick. If they would have fixed Rangers and buffed Monks I would buy the new phb. But no point in getting something I'll have to homebrew to fix anyway

[@justarandomcommenterdontmi4485]

Goliath Barb partner: *angry grunting amd snorting while sleeping* Halfling bard partner:it is oddly soothing and i find it hard to sleep without it

[@wargoddread8856]

Cant be stealthy while in a rage

[@chongwillson972]

@wargoddread8856 "You gain proficiency in another skill of your choice from the list of skills available to Barbarians at level 1. In addition, while your Rage is active, you can channel primal power when you attempt certain tasks; whenever you make an ability check using one of the following skills, you can make it as a Strength check even if it normally uses a different ability: Acrobatics, Intimidation, Perception, Stealth, or Survival. When you use this ability, your Strength represents primal power coursing through you, honing your agility and senses."

[@AramajDeLeon]

I imagine the barbarian stealth just the enemies seeing his extremely big mussels and turning away

[@sabastianbarnett6518]

I get the rage skills are supposed to make the barbs feel better outside combat but cmon, it makes NO sense. "I can sneak better cause I'm screaming my head off and pissed"

[@christianresel8051]

"When i rage i can use my str on stealth checks" Got me hard XD Most of the new stuff is cool and all, but that? GIMME DAT WEED!

[@lucasbrelivet5238]

Strength for stealth and perception checks while raging? How do you explain that? It makes no sense to me.

[@OverlordMalarkey]

5E Barbie: Well Hello there Me: GENERAL KENOBI!

[@MidnightNok]

The blood is so rushed to your ear you're noticing the ant feet across the room

[@qrowbranwen1864]

I mean, there was already the option for players to use other modifiers for skill checks. In Xanathar's, it points this out. I believe a common one was Barbarians using STR to Intimidate, instead of CHA