Barbie is TRASH

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[@JLongbone]

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[@Bopperann]

Shmashed the like button

[@themoon7435]

Suffering is right... I came into the theatre feeling normal and happy enough, and I left feeling bad about being a woman lmao. Idk how some women are saying this movie was empowering tbh it was just sad.

[@anti1training]

@@themoon7435 The message is both extreme views are bad. Just be who you want to be. I understand tho why you'd feel bad. Hope it made you laugh tho 😭

[@Ghdsgg14]

This movie make me want to watch the old barbie movies, because they better. I'm a guy saying this.

[@arizonaicesuntea9922]

13:34 You know damn well us guys will do something like that. Especially if there's poon poon involved.

[@lexfrenchy8159]

I love how the movie depicts men slapping Margot's ass in public because they're sexist pigs, but in real life, none of them approached her and preferred to high-five Ryan.

[@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736]

I wish she would pin this comment 😂😂😂 And it’s like Greta was disappointing the guys DIDNT approach Margot

[@8ligh7]

Considering how overzealous the accusations of sexual harassment has become, especially online. It totally makes sense that they were only interacting with Ryan Gosling. Dudes weren't even gonna chance it. lmao

[@mikeyjamieson4715]

@@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736 And you know good and goddamn well that if men did approach Robbie and spoke to her, Gerwig would be complaining about 'catcalling'.

[@blissfulinsomniac5711]

@8ligh7 Yeah, I doubt that has anything to do with it. Margot probably made them nervous as shit. Which is totally understandable.

[@kylefrank638]

@@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736 Greta twisted the "undesired" outcome of men shying away from Robbie into the opposite of what it entailed: "They just creepily gazed at her from afar" No, they were hyper-aware of what kind of backlash they could receive by daring to directly interact with a female celebrity, and so they maintained minimum safe distance so as to NOT be labeled lechers, pushy, etc.

[@madamefluffy4788]

Any man who is dumped by his girlfriend over the Barbie movie should count their blessings that they didn't end up married to/having children with women who are clearly unhinged enough to think a movie about a plastic doll having an identity crisis is a feminist Litmus test.

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

Agreed! I find it both sad and pathetic that women, albeit immature ones are using a damn movie to decide their relationships...absolutely stupid.

[@tawn6388]

Remember how in How I Met Your Mother, Ted was freaking out over the fact his girlfriend had not yet seen Star Wars and if she doesn't like it, they can't possibly have a relationship? Turns out that's not a joke. There's people out there whose behavior resembles sitcom characters'.

[@LordThulhu]

@@tawn6388 To be fair, Star Wars was once good and back then it did make sense why someone would be taken aback by their partner disliking it. Also Star Wars was not political in past, Barbie 100% is (even if it accidentally makes very good points for the opposite team) and the break ups surrounding it aren't based on taste but on politics. In short, the sitcoms made more sense than reality does and that's the sad part of it all. No sitcom could had predicted how truly idiotic people can be, especially female activists.

[@blissfulinsomniac5711]

@nobodyhere78381 Speaking of idiotic, you just tried to justify dumping someone over Star Wars because it wasn't political, lol. Breaking up with someone over taste in film is even worse. At least with politics, one can surmise where partner leans on major issues.

[@LordThulhu]

@@blissfulinsomniac5711 I didn't but ok? I think you read into this way too serious. I was just poking fun at the fact that sitcoms made more sense in that regard than reality does. And I rather be dumped over OG Star Wars than Barbie, but that's just me.

[@anthonyguidas2012]

I love how the director says no one can live up to the beauty standards of the doll, then immediately we see Margot Robbie looking just like the doll.🤦‍♂️

[@RanMouri82]

Imagine if she apologized for holding up Margot Robbie as beautiful, just because all the little girls assume they can't look exactly like her or something.

[@marywinchester1322]

Exactly, the arguments these feminist have are easily derailed by their hypocrisy.

[@cmc5394oparva]

According to Greta Gerwig, during the beach scene filming, people were coming along and high-fiving Ryan Gosling while not interacting with Robbie at all, and it caused Robbie to have a weird emotional crisis.

[@QuincyQuinn95]

@@cmc5394oparva J talks about it in the video...

[@B0BBYJ4CK]

my thing is: why is Barbie seen as an impossible beauty standard? are they talkin' about her body type? the average FEMALE body type that MOST women have? and it's a goddamn doll for god's sake. it's supposed to look attractive in some way. nobody wants to play with an ugly doll. 😂

[@ShadyDoorags]

I was tricked into seeing this movie by the advertising and I'm bitter about it. I was expecting a fun and campy Lego Movie experience, yet I got... not that. It ticks me off so much at how insanely successful the film is. It trips over itself and because of that, everyone walks away thinking their personal vendetta has been perpetuated. People keep saying it's complex when really it's confused.

[@sunshinet3058]

Maybe you're just not Kenough

[@uglybetty8747]

It’s straight up trash

[@1kracuauker797]

basically, the film surfed the meme hype along with Oppenheimer's film, people saw so many memes that the two films would be masterpieces that it really became indoctrinated in their minds.

[@NebLleb]

@@sunshinet3058 That meme is NOT funny! It's never been funny! IT WILL NEVER BE FUNNY! Play with your Ken dolls whilst listening to Billie Eilish, i'mma nap.

[@robbiewalker2831]

@@NebLleb You: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3anh5qPntOKmtUsi=mMfG-PvFqTebeoAB

[@RanMouri82]

Since the Barbie movie insisted on making the "real" world unrealistic, they should've gone the route of classic Muppets films and kept the politics out of it. But their audience was the 30+ y.o. armchair feminists.

[@anti1training]

And teens and young adults that love memes and silly fun movies. You're too focused on the feminist part of the movie and not the message

[@RanMouri82]

​@@anti1training But the movie tries way too hard to be radically feminist. The movie put that there, not me.

[@anti1training]

@@RanMouri82 The movie doesn't try to do that. The movie shows that's not the answer. It shows both extremes are bad. Just do what you want.

[@HebiHouse]

​@@RanMouri82more like liberally feminist.

[@RanMouri82]

​​@@HebiHouse I'd agree, but it goes too far to be old-school liberal feminism. More like the dopey, third-wave variety.

[@kingbash6466]

I absolutely love how the pro-feminist Barbie film literally has Ken be the breakout character with the best and funniest scenes in the film by far.

[@Bonesawisready926]

The movie also lowkey admits that most of these problems are in women's heads. "I have fear with no particular object"... Ok, what the fuck you want me to do about that?

[@sandersGG]

Its almost as if to say feminist dont hate men and also supports them

[@tylerjames805]

@@sandersGGYet the film also states that everything from working out to being passionate about films is toxic if you’re a man totally doesn’t hate men

[@dumdumer892]

@@sandersGGdepending on the individual feminist that might be true but a lot of feminism is very adversarial to men even though it tries to argue it’s not necessarily the men’s fault… that they’ve been raised to suck… Edit: again, though there are different kinds of feminists. I’ve known ones that do honestly respect and care for men as individuals but there’s a lot in the ideology that doesn’t as well as a lot of feminists who don’t.

[@sunshinet3058]

That was the point tho. The Ken's were every female character in every man made film or TV show. An accessory 😮. Most people who didn't like the movie didn't grasp that

[@RogueFox2185]

Getting the Gi.Joe’s and Autobots together in order to help the Ken’s take back Barbieland, would absolutely be the perfect sequel if Mattel had the balls.

[@ECKohns]

The newest Transformers movie tried to set up a GI Joe Crossover. Who knows if it’ll actually happen. Cause Hasbro’s been struggling with the GI Joe Brand for years. They haven’t made a GI Joe cartoon in over a decade, and I don’t even see GI Joe toys on the shelves anymore. I don’t even know the last time I saw GI Joe toys at Target. I still see plenty of Transformers toys. The only other thing Hasbro’s done with GI Joe was that Snake Eyes movie from 2 years ago that nobody saw.

[@ECKohns]

Since GI Joe and Transformers are Hasbro, maybe it would be better if it was He-Man or Mighty Max or Hot Wheels.

[@doctorgrubious7725]

@@ECKohns they did? Seriously? Isn't GI Joe like a separate universe with dinosaur people or something?

[@PaceBreaker]

@@doctorgrubious7725 Hasbro's trying to do their own cinematic universe...

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Some people compare this movie to Fight Club but for women. But damn, I was actually waiting for a Fight Club twist where Margot Robbie figures out she's being controlled by a little girl /her mom, and BARBIE is the one who gives the dumb mother a pep talk about how Barbie became a substitute because real mom was working a job that doesn't make her happy anyway, and that America Ferrera just needs to take some time off and be with her daughter. THAT would've been much cooler. Barbie is suddenly sentient and sees the real problem for herself and offers a solution instead of some whiny bitch ranting about how its all hopeless. Forget gender politics, Hollywood doesn't know what HEROISM is. I'm a guy. I don't relate to Barbie. But I wanted her to cut loose and subvert our expectations that she's not just a dumb doll being taken for a ride by humans playing with her. She gains her own sense of self and intelligence and reality.

[@aaronrowell6943]

The Lego movie did a much better job with the concept of "toys being played with by real people"

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Yes. And look at all the commentary in that: Corporatism, father-son bonding, needing to see things through your kids eyes to understand your kid better. Realising that your kids and family give you more meaning than your job. And there are just too many rules. Everything Barbie tries to talk about and fails completely.

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

And remember, Lego Movie was never excused as a movie for little boys so don't take it seriously and all the other excuses. And there's a really cool female lead in Lucy. She realises she has limitations, can't win every game, and she doesn't care about Emmet and can't stand how empty his head is, but realises over time that he's actually a good guy willing to sacrifice himself to save everyone. And she's sad when he's "dead" and respects hime when he comes back.

[@aaronrowell6943]

@@valentinegonsalves7322 gas and on top of everything you just mentioned I have a good feeling that The Lego movie will still hold up after a while while the Barbie movie will more than likely be forgotten. I actually just recently like this year was The Lego movie part 2 and it was also pretty good. the Batman Lego movie was good but I don't count it since it's clearly just you know Batman doing is Batman thing and not a part of the whole kids playing with the toys thing.

[@CaulkMongler]

@@valentinegonsalves7322 “b-b-but FEMINISM??¿”

[@neogamest123logic2]

Capitalism is just a socialist term for property rights. The rejection of private property rights was the central premise of socialism from its earliest days, and the abolition of private property rights was the driving ideological force behind all socialist experiments in the twentieth century. Socialist economists are critical of private property as socialism aims to substitute private property in the means of production for social ownership or public property. All of our god given rights are based on that notion of property rights. What is the notion of rights? The general concept of rights is that they are possessed by individuals in the sense that they are permissions and entitlements to do things which other persons, or which governments or authorities, can not infringe. Locke wrote that all individuals are equal in the sense that they are born with certain "inalienable" natural rights. That is, rights that are God-given and can never be taken or even given away. Among these fundamental natural rights, Locke said, are "life, liberty, and property." Jefferson claimed these unalienable rights were an endowment - a gift - from our Creator: natural rights result from “the Laws of Nature and Nature's God.” Later in life, in the only book he ever wrote, Jefferson reiterated this view. Property: The Foundation of All Rights Property is the foundation of every right we have, including the right to be free. Every right claim, after all, is a claim to some thing - either a defensive claim to keep what one is holding or an offensive claim to something someone else is holding. So when this socialist fem discount Indiana Jones says "that's capitalism" no I have to say no b**** that's larceny. Theft is a crime that sometimes goes by the title "larceny." In general, the crime occurs when someone takes and carries away someone else's property without permission and with the intent to permanently deprive the owner of it.

[@kingagrabowska9366]

I think the marketing was genius in hiding its plot. But also I grew so jaded that I just knew that a movie about Barbie in the current times can't be anything else than a feminist lecture.

[@ab-gail]

Same :/

[@HonkHonkler]

Same

[@joshwhite557]

Literally exactly what I thought. There was no way this was gonna be anything but a feminist anthem.

[@reginaphalange9417]

pretending to be feminist, it's neo"feminism"/misandrism

[@Bonesawisready926]

Disagree. If it was only successful because of the marketing, it wouldn't have had a 55% hold in the second weekend. Women just hate men these days and that resonates with broads.

[@xFlareLeon]

Barbie: "Men look at me like I'm an object!" ... YOU! ARE! A! *TOOYYY* !!!

[@Thomperfan]

This quote also applies to Sasha’s nonsensical rant.

[@cauzie8281]

Love this

[@caramelspellman3253]

A person on Twitter said that "Barbie is a great movie. People are taking it way too seriously". But they also cry during the final scene and think of Barbie as a beacon for feminism? So are we supposed to take the patriarchy seriously or not! They contradict themselves everytime 🗿

[@RanMouri82]

Gotta ask: What the heck about the ending makes the feminists all teary-eyed?

[@anti1training]

It's just a movie, chill

[@MikeFireheart]

​@@anti1trainingIs it? Can we just have a consistent view on movies and not just say something is just a movie, when others have a different opinion?

[@anti1training]

@@MikeFireheart If you're looking to into it, to the point it ruins a movie for you... then yeah view it as just a movie. It's just a fun movie with meme potential and a good message of do what ya want

[@MikeFireheart]

@@anti1training According to you, while to others they don't want to waste money on movies that clearly have an agenda and are poorly written. The memes will not make up for giving money to Hollywood and in doing so, telling them that people like these politics at the front of their movies.

[@tjroelsma]

Activists: "See! Yet another toxic male giving a patronising review of Barbie." JLongbone: "Is something wrong with your eyes or with your brain?"

[@jeremytitus9519]

Activists: “Yes.”

[@Ramsey276one]

I LOVED *THIS* XD

[@bleached101]

Yeah I'm glad I'm not the only woman who thinks this movie is complete nonsense

[@Femmeaesthetic]

@@bleached101 otherwise your a "pIcK mE"

[@madamefluffy4788]

@@bleached101 Fellow female and 100% agree this movie is feminist trash.

[@Femmeaesthetic]

I thought Barbie was way more empowering character in toy story 3 than the actual Barbie movie, the state of hollywood right now😂

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

This movie is supposed to be feminist but it just perpetuates the "women are children" idea. A mom took a corporate job she doesn't even love and can't understand why her daughter isn't kind and open to her anymore. That's dumb enough. But the movie opens with how its so bad that women are expected just to be mothers. Meanwhile the pseudo-lead mom character's biggest problem is she regrets not being a better parent. And Barbie wants to be a real woman at the end. Because being a plastic doll is way less meaningful than being a woman, no matter how bad the world treats you. This movie wastes its themes on "2023 California is full of creepy men and depressed women."

[@azzzanadra]

watch the other barbie movies you pleb!

[@CrimsonBladeWielder1998]

@@valentinegonsalves7322in other words self reporting behind stage in Hollywood-THE MOVIE

[@mariellescritique3544]

Thank you! 🤣 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@ECKohns]

If how kids play with their Barbie dolls affect what happens in BarbieLand, then there should be several Naked Barbies and Kens because for a lot of kids, the first thing they do with a doll is rip off it’s clothes.

[@MikeFireheart]

Yup, don't forget headless Barbies and Kens, along with destroyed Barbies and Kens from the feminists that this movie is pandering to.

[@anastasia-fr1gn]

@@MikeFireheartlol they should have had a few Barbie’s with short necks because I know I had a few that I popped their heads back on when they broke off.

[@RanMouri82]

And chop off its hair. ...I definitely did that.

[@marywinchester1322]

As a child, I was a tomboy. I would mess up every single Barbie as a toddler before finally ripping their head off. 😂There would defiantly be more than one "Weird Barbie."

[@MikeFireheart]

@@anastasia-fr1gn Yeah, the neckless Barbies!

[@CiaranFhearghail]

Yes, if anyone deserves an award for this movie, it's the marketing team. They could probably sell a glass of water to someone who's drowning.

[@dianebrooks1859]

I was skeptical, but leaning towards "fun, normal film" because "how the heck can they screw up BARBIE??!?" Then I watched Drinker's review and just 😮😮😮

[@angel_of_rust]

stupidity has no limits i guess, and it sucks that the industry has to tank for it@@dianebrooks1859

[@unfilthy]

The idea that little girls think of Barbies as some aspirational thing seems slightly insane to me. I played with them. They were pieces of plastic that couldn't stand up and weren't very bendy and their hair didn't grow. You know what did bother me as a pubescent girl? That I couldn't figure out how Madonna got her armpits so smooth in the Material Girl video. My armpits never looked that good! Then I asked someone (probably my sister) and found out that one can use makeup on the body and not just the face, and I moved on with my life and my perfectly normal bumpy armpits.

[@RanMouri82]

Oh, don't go on the NYC Subway. Crazy Dove has a whole ad campaign about not judging other women's armpits. 😅

[@colemacgrath2005]

I know right? I used to play with my Max Steel doll and I never once thought about how I aspired to be Max Steel when I grew up, I was just having fun making dolls beat the shit out of each other lol

[@happynihilist2573]

The hole "there was only baby dolls before Barbie" is a lie, not only ware fashion dolls common but Barbie itself is a blatant plagiarism of another doll

[@marywinchester1322]

Yep!

[@johnnyferalcat896]

What doll?

[@tadsgirl]

@@johnnyferalcat896 - A German fashion doll named Lili

[@Frostbite12211983]

Where do Raggedy Ann, Strawberry Shortcake, Polly Pocket, and Rainbow Brite rank on the list of most famous dolls?

[@doctorgrubious7725]

there's been dolls for likely thousands of years 💀

[@tumulovermelho93]

"Barbie is this body that no human can reach" Movie features Margot Robbie, Dua Lipa and other girls who look just as skinny and fit as Barbie.

[@frug5629]

On top of that, when even the original creator of Barbie is saying you're reading too deep into it. You need to just take the L and realize where you went wrong.

[@richardkovacs2006]

To be honest, these humans are beautiful as humans and NONE of them look like any actual barbie doll. No, not even Robbie. What if the point is: real humans arr in fact more beautiful.with all their imperfections, than dolls.

[@unimpartialobserver]

The woman who got closest, IIRC, was Vera-Ellen. Wonderful dancer, serious problems with anorexia.

[@kaylacarpenter272]

​@@unimpartialobserverI can't find photos of her that look anorexic. Unless you mean she simply struggled with an anorexic mental affliction, but wasn't emaciated.

[@harrambou9468]

-and even admits that, while still being 100% serious in every other aspect.

[@ingloriousMachina]

I just wanted a goofy doll movie, going into unhinged adventures that a child would come up with, and being FASHIONABLE while doing it. This movie looked so good and had so much potential.

[@misssmidnight]

And women actually broke up with their husbands and boyfriends over an opinion? That’s freaking CHILDISH.

[@mikeyjamieson4715]

If they chose to dump their men because they had the fervent audacity to not enjoy a film, then the foundations of those relationships probably weren't very strong to begin with. Let's be real, those men got a lucky escape.

[@8ligh7]

They dodged a tactical nuke.

[@Chrisindapurplehouse]

That's the world we live in.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

A lot of “adults” these days ARE children. They never matured, they just aged.

[@stevenschnepp576]

Welcome to a glimpse of dating as a man. I'm not entirely convinced women ever do grow up.

[@GeekOwtLowd]

Her entire woman speech is literally, "People expect you to have moderation and balance in your life." Oh no!

[@QuincyQuinn95]

IKR! "They want you to be this, but not too much this" Yeah, like every other human being on earth should have to have a healthy life

[@GeekOwtLowd]

@@QuincyQuinn95 Everything they blame on "the system" or "patriarchy" is literally self-imposed expectations that come from being on social media all the time. This isn't "Barbie the Movie"... It's not even "What Barbie did to girls: the Movie"... it's "What Social Media did to Women: the Movie".

[@GigaChadh976]

"People expect you to get angry but manage it enough where you dont stab 19 infants"

[@GeekOwtLowd]

@@GigaChadh976lol "People expect you to be happy, but maybe stop smiling at your mom's funeral."

[@GigaChadh976]

⁠@@GeekOwtLowd"people expect you to be horny and sexy, but they tell you to stop masturbating on the dentist chair"

[@kinka9883]

I am happy for all those dumped men, their girlfriends did them a favor😂 Im so tired of hearing about Barbie setting unattainable beauty standards...Like bitch its a doll! No one complained about any other doll as far as I know, but Barbie just has sooo much influence 🙄. If your child is looking at a manufactured object as a role model, you've failed as a parent in that aspect🤷‍♀️. Like, you got a whole mother, but I guess she's not a better role model than a hunk of plastic???

[@doctorgrubious7725]

I stg only women can compete with a goddamn piece of plastic, meanwhile I had my superman and TMNT and mars attacks toys (idk where tf I got a mars attacks toy from, but it was awesome)

[@mrshmuga9]

@@doctorgrubious7725Forget where but basically how men and women see things (tends) to be different. Boys will see a toy and want to _become_ the toy, whereas girls will see a toy and want it _to reflect themselves._ I remember Vee mentioning it in some video.

[@doctorgrubious7725]

​@@mrshmuga9 yes its biological, women will compete with other women by looking better, men will compete by being better, both take hard work but they're fundamentally different, its why girls will tell fat chicks they're beautiful, because more fat chicks means less girls to compete with, dude's on the other hand will call a fat dude a fatass because the competition around men isn't purely appearance base, look at most rich old men, they're old, and chunky, but they have hot girls and wives, meanwhile rich older women tend to be single because statistically speaking, women prefer men who make more, and if you make more than 99.9% of the population, and the other 0.01% won't date you cause you're old, than you'd be single.

[@RanMouri82]

IKR? I never thought of Barbie as something I'm supposed to look like beyond the notion that women of a healthy weight are pretty.

[@RanMouri82]

​@@doctorgrubious7725 There's also the element of fellow females lying to fat chicks like me to justify why they blame men for everything wrong in their lives.

[@cuterblueloveuwulilathepig3556]

This barbie movie is not barbie, is Margot Robbie. Just Like The Velma show is not Velma, is Mindy.

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Correction: Its not Margot Robbie. Its Greta Gerwig. The director. And her experiences in Hollywood. Like JL said, I'm sure this movie is just a projection based on the reality of the kind of men she might have had to deal with in Hollywood. I can full see Will Ferrell's character, Simu Liu's character, Michael Cera's character being real people that Greta Gerwig has had to face. But she cannot name them because then she'll get blacklisted, and come to realise that Hollywood is not motivated by feminism and brining other social change, but simply by protecting and preserving its own cliques. The way they clapped and cheered for Polanski and Weinstein while fully aware of what was up with them the whole time.

[@cuterblueloveuwulilathepig3556]

@@valentinegonsalves7322 oh ok

[@xFlareLeon]

Margot Barbie.

[@AA-ed6ek]

@@valentinegonsalves7322 It's both.

[@shadowking9739]

Let's dissect these Tiktok examples: 1. "Thinking about how the Barbie movie is actually such a sanguine, compassionate take on patriarchy. In Barbieland, the Barbies’ biggest crime is that men are benevolently ignored. The Barbies don’t abuse and unalive them, they don’t force the men to serve them, they just aren’t that interested. When Ken brings patriarchy, all the women are displaced and effectively forced into servitude, perpetually compelled to provide attention and “brewskis.” Barbie doesn’t hate Ken, she just doesn’t love him. If only real world patriarchy were so innocent." - *A 'compassionate take', huh? Is that why men are portrayed as dumb, emotionally-fragile over-sized babies while the women are smart, capable individuals constantly being victimized? And no, the Kens aren't just 'benevolently ignored'. They hold no jobs, titles or positions within Barbie Land society, existing only to compliment the Barbies and vie for their affection. It's also heavily implied that they have no input or opinions and are homeless. They are treated as nothing more than walking pieces of furniture. When the Kens take over, they do not give the Barbies the same treatment, and actually want to spend time with them.* 2. "After watching the Barbie movie…I realized us women do go through a lot more changes & obstacles than men. We sometimes have to choose wether (WHETHER; learn to spell) we want to pursue our career, a stay home mom or both. We have to dress and act a certain way. Something men will never understand as much as they would want too (TO; wrong use of the word)." -*And what changes/obstacles are you talking about? Female puberty, menstruation, pregnancy, menopause? If that's what you mean, I find it incredulous you needed a movie to figure that out. You do realize that men also have tough choices to make as well, right, such as what career to get in order to one day support a family? And men also have to dress and act a certain way in order to even be considered worthy of a woman's time. Frankly, it looks like you don't understand either.* 3. "One of the most heartbreaking scenes was when she leaves Barbie Land and enters the real world. Barbie experiences what it’s like to be catcalled, sexualized and physically assaulted by men. The part that broke me was that she had no vocabulary to discribe (DESCRIBE) what that feeling was because in Barbie Land no one is in fear of another. Barbie felt for the first what women and girls feel their entire lives. This movie is by no means “anti-men.” It is so beautifully protrayed (PORTRAYED) what it’s like to be a young girl playing with Barbie thinking how perfect she, older girls and women are but to then grow up and experience the pain and fear that is being a woman." *-Men get sexualized and even physically assaulted but no one gives a shit because they're men and they have to 'deal with it.' What the hell do you mean it's "by no means 'anti-men'?" As I said before, every male character is presented in a negative light; even Allan is nothing more than a wimpy 'nice-guy' doormat that gets rewarded for not rocking the boat.* 4. "My mom and I went to see the Barbie movie during this scene a group of teenage boys in front of us would not stop throwing popcorn at each other and talking through the whole ending. There's a metaphor there somewhere." *-Okay, that sucks but teenagers of all genders are generally insensitive assholes in public. The teenage boys probably saw the movie in order to give it a chance but when it turned out to be boring and stupid, they decided to entertain themselves instead of wasting their money by walking out. Don't take an instance of guys being dicks and twisting it into misogyny.* 5. "The fact that men will see Barbie and think it’s a man-hating film while completely missing the irony. The movie is quite literally pointing out the experience of womanhood and the way the Kens are treated is just a presentation of how women are treated irl. Except in real life women are treated far, far worse than the Kens are in Barbieland." -*What planet are you living on? The way the Kens are treated is NOT equivalent to women in the real world. Women in the west can have careers, vote, own property, choose their partners, decide whether or not to have children, drive, are given access to medical/dental assurance, and so much more. In fact, the argument can be made that women are given MORE rights and opportunities than men. In places like the Middle East and many parts of Africa, women have little to no rights but women over here pretend like they are the ones suffering when they are extremely privileged and even pampered. Women in the west can even be handed high-paying jobs simply to fill some sort of affirmative action quota or wrongfully accuse a man of assault and be instantly believed 9 times out of 10 because of the whole 'believe all women' thing. Fuck off.*

[@theyoutubeguide1109]

I’m a woman myself and I think it is absolutely insane how many women have deluded themselves into thinking that we are oppressed here in America. Like there are some people who genuinely think that women are living in some type of anti-women dystopia where every man on Earth is conspiring to constantly keep women down. Even though women can literally do just about anything a man can do and even get away with some things that men could never get away with.

[@YouWillBeHappyOrElse]

Item #3 only reminds me that Harvey Weinstein exists, and none of them did anything about him.

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

​@@YouWillBeHappyOrElseTo further add insult to injury, they gave his personal assistant $180 million to make The Acolyte, thus rewarding her for keeping her mouth shut for what she ABSOLUTELY FVCKING KNEW was going on.

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

Well done, good sir.

[@MarcAlcatraz]

Greta was going to complain about the behind the scenes interactions with Margot: Either people compliment Margot and she complains about objectification Or People ignore Margot and women are not paid attention because man exists blah blah blah

[@madamefluffy4788]

Men seriously can't win when it comes to modern day feminism. No matter what they do/say, men are wrong/sexist.

[@Green.Star_ks]

Holy shit. America Ferrera’s character saying “What if there’s a mom Barbie?” Got me so pissed off, because guess what? There is a mom Barbie, AND HER NAME IS MIDGE! SHE ALREADY FUCKING EXISTS AND THYE PRETEND SHE DOESN’T. Worse, they know she exists, but act like her existence was dumb, and shouldn’t have happened. They really want to act so high and mighty for suggesting a idea they know has already happened and something they actively make fun of

[@unimpartialobserver]

Any Barbie can be a "mom Barbie", if the girl playing with her designates her as a mom.

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

​@juliebartlett4222 Yup! When my water broke, our (then) 5 yr old daughter played "Barbie giving birth" with my best friend while hubby and I went to the hospital to deliver our son. Our daughter is now 20 and getting married lol My best friend was a retired nurse-wife and was an absolute gem to our daughter.

[@default5900]

Love how they claim that barbie's body type is unrealistic but then turn around and hire Margaret Robbie to be the default Barbie, as in the Barbie all others are based on. Just another instance of mixed messaging from these disingenuous idiots.

[@paraco6083]

This is clearly inaccurate to real girls playing with Barbie, because 99% of the time Barbie was spent hanging from the Princess & The Pauper castle like a torture victim so Ken could save her. Hell, where are all the other fucked up Barbies like Weird Barbie? With messed up haircuts and marker tattoos and poorly-handmade clothes? Reasonably, half of the population would be fucked up. I never met another girl who treated their Barbies completely perfectly, even massive super fans with entire bedrooms themed around her.

[@moomyung9231]

I never did that. If Barbie was hanging it was because she was in Torture Chamber and slated for destruction. I also wasn't a big Ken fan, I thought his face looked stupid and I hated his lame hair - so he always played the rejected nerd. When I was younger, it was Barbies going on random weird adventures, then later they were the annoying antagonists to the other, cooler toys, and then they were destroyed. I never played damsel in distress because I wasn't a fan of it.

[@QuincyQuinn95]

I remember when I was a kid, I could only catch like half of the 90s Spider-Man cartoon episodes in the morning before going to school... there was that whole clone arc with Mary Jane using Hydro Man's powers I never saw the conclusion to back then, so I took a Spider-Man figure, wrapped a balloon around a Barbie's face to act as a mask, and played Superhero Couple with Spider-Man and "Water Woman"

[@madamefluffy4788]

When I played with Barbie as a kid, she and Ken were always a couple who lived together. They hung out with their friends (both Barbies and Kens) at parties/on the beach/at the movies, etc . I can't imagine any kid (little girl or boy) playing with a Barbie or Ken would play them as Gerwig envisions it (i.e. - the Barbies live in luxury and have all the jobs/power while the Ken's sole purpose in life is to love/admire Barbie and vye for even a tiny scrap of Barbie's attention.

[@jaylin4356]

Nahh, I’d say a lot of us were never gifted a Ken so we’d either use another barbie for some lesbian action or borrow one of our brothers GI Joe’s.

[@AeridisArt]

I used my brother's Max Steel action figure as my Ken and he was sleeping around with all my Barbies in the bright pink party limo he would drive around. No Barbie was safe from Max's biceps.

[@NkGaming-1101]

If your girlfriend broke up with you because you didn’t like this movie. You dodged a bullet. She would’ve been a terrible partner in the long run. Find someone better. Someone who’s actually both sane and intelligent

[@hothotheat3000]

Dumping someone over THEIR TASTE IN MOVIES is laughable.

[@unimpartialobserver]

@@hothotheat3000 If "THEIR TASTE IN MOVIES" is gory slasher fics and "nonconsensual" porn, my last concern is whether you're laughing at me for hard-passing.

[@jculver1674]

I'm a white guy in his 40s and I have literally never told a woman to smile in my entire life, nor have I ever seen any other guy do it. I have, however, been told to smile, by a female co-worker. So the whole "men constantly telling women to smile" trope REALLY pisses me off.

[@RanMouri82]

It's a real thing, but mostly among inner city men who catcall women in passing. Single women try to stay stony-faced in places like LA or NYC to avoid it. Those typically-homeless guys are the ones who tell us to smile as we hustle to work. However, Hollywood doesn't want to show drugged up black guys on street corners doing that, so they made a sanitized, fake version where random white guys walk up to women and tell them to smile instead.

[@kinka9883]

I have been told to smile, but by both men & women equally & it wasnt even a handleful of times😂

[@darkpuppetlordful]

I've told plenty of people to smile more, dudes mostly tbh. It's legit advice for some people

[@anti1training]

It shouldn't upset you at all then fam. And yeah it does happen. We're men so of course we haven't seen it much. We aren't the women it happens to often. Why would you be upset about a part that isn't towards you?

[@albatross4920]

I'm a guy and that's happened to me like 2 or 3 times. Not sure if they were being subversive or if it was a legit compliment 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@GeekOwtLowd]

People didn't like Midge because they thought it promoted teen pregnancy and taboo topics for a little kids' toy. The movie doesn't like Midge, because the movie hates motherhood.

[@thatonea-hole]

Sounds like MODERN FEMINISM to me!!

[@vlo4829]

But also people didn't "hate Midge". There were a variety of Midge dolls BEFORE the pregnancy doll came out. They hated THAT doll. Not Midge.

[@dingledongle455]

No, movie is uncomfortable around midge because how is there a baby inside with no sex organs or sexual desire. Only sexually charged doll is weird Barbie as J pointed out. The Barbies are pretty much acting the way media treated the pregnant doll.

[@dingledongle455]

@@thatonea-holenah

[@kylefrank638]

Okay so, the worry that girls will become interested in motherhood when they are too young to support a child, that's not an unfounded worry... but my follow-up question would be, how come baby dolls aren't also worrying for the same reason? The Barbie character is intended to represent a *grown* woman, so even if a pregnant Barbie might give a kid the wrong idea about when/how to take on such a responsibility irl, Barbie would not be promoting *teen* pregnancy, intrinsically. Meanwhile, a baby doll directly gives the kid playing with it an interest in motherhood... I don't think that this could really be causing a spike in teen pregnancy or single motherhood (if done right, with a parent around to answer questions, this will educate/prepare a kid), but it seems to me like it's an equal if not more extreme example, of exposing a kid to adult situations, as pregnant-Barbie. So I don't know why one is problematic, but not the other. Just, always have a guardian around, to explain things.

[@reginaphalange9417]

also, the movie Enchanted did it much better, less stereotyped, less hypocritical, less lazy... but the point of this movie wasn't to say "men bad, women good"

[@marywinchester1322]

And the princess from Enchanted was actually nice.

[@cranbury25]

You can even point to Life Sized

[@daniboy4153]

Two better movies that did a better job and were more fun than this movie.

[@mysteryinkii6160]

Heck even the sequal was good to.

[@tadsgirl]

YES!!!!! That's what I thought this was going to be. Like Enchanted.

[@miagvinjilia]

I got called a pick me for saying this movie was garbage. On 4chan, no less.

[@Zepher0987]

A what?

[@miagvinjilia]

@@Zepher0987 Pick-me. It's basically an insult directed towards women who don't regurgitate feminist talking points like a good NPC should.

[@ophanimangel3143]

Just like “racist” a “pick me” is another one abused word to gaslight women to toe in the line with their way of thinking.

[@AnimaVox_]

This movie is *not* for Barbie fans. I was a big fan of Barbie as a kid, my _whole room_ was decorated with a Barbie theme. This is NOTHING like the Barbie I grew up with, and I don't just mean the dolls, but the home media movies too. Micarah Tewers has one of the best takes on this film, and she, a big Barbie fan, was clearly disappointed with it. I mean, she legitimately looked like she was getting upset at times, so it obviously didn't click for an _actual_ fan like her. There's something deeply off-brand about the whole movie, it's too mean-spirited and non-family-friendly for the IP it's supposed to be adapting. I think you've done a good job laying out how absurd everything about this film is. My other favorite reviews on this movie are by That Star Wars Girl (who perfectly captured how I felt), mjtanner's-who's one of the fairest, most level-headed reviewers out there-and Little Platoon's in-depth, meticulous breakdown of what does and doesn't work. I think Vex Electronica's review is funny too. Brittany Venti argues that it's satirical, but I vehemently disagree; I don't think the people who made this film are that smart or self-aware, in all honesty. I've seen a variety of opinions from people I watch regularly and people I don't. Shadiversity and Michael Knowles also have reviews worth watching if only because they have polar-opposite opinions despite being on the same socio-political "side," so to speak. If Knowles can make a case for Barbie being conservative, then it's further proof this movie's writing is incredibly confused and counter-productive. Y'know, just like feminism! Much like Taylor Swift's music, the Barbie movie is for women who never thought they were the problem in their relationships. I've already said this under Authentic Observer's video on the topic, and I'll say it again: If this was a run-of-the-mill feminist movie, nobody would've gone to watch it. That's why they needed to use the brand. We've seen this same song and dance dozens of times before, and I haven't fallen for it since the first time.

[@cuterblueloveuwulilathepig3556]

So true!

[@RanMouri82]

Agreed. It's really for feminists who kinda remember Barbie, but learned to shun it because of so-called body positivity.

[@marywinchester1322]

FACTS! I no longer like Barbie, but even I know this movie is full of it. Barbie would never behave this way. She would never break up with Ken. Greta is another feminist who looks at Barbie as a problem when she never was. I'm sick of hollywood using name brands only to shove an agenda down our throats.

[@AnimaVox_]

@@marywinchester1322 I'm also sick of the bait-and-switch. Gerwig is allegedly in charge of the new Narnia series. Expect another garbage subversion with no allusion toward the story's Christian themes-or worse, an outright inversion of them.

[@jeremytitus9519]

I Don care about this Barbie stuff but your comment had a lovely cadence and was a pleasure to read, like a warm cinnamony little apple pastry treat, but for my mind.

[@Denise_1374]

went to see this movie as a part of me and my friend's Barbenheimer double feature. I was SO glad we saw Barbie first as this movie had me rolling my eyes, checking my watch constantly and ready to just walk out multiple times. It is such a dumb, demeaning and mean-spirited movie. Can't believe Oppenheimer was the more light-hearted and ''fun'' one of the two.

[@madamebkrt]

My sister and I made the mistake of watching Oppenheimer first, as we figured it might be emotional so light-hearted Barbie would cheer us up. Sigh...

[@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736]

I swear to god, I ended up in a psych ward for a week after watching that movie. You guys may think I’m trolling but I’m dead serious. I had mental break before but that movie just made me feel like was not worth it.

[@laughingseagull000]

@@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736understandable

[@AeridisArt]

@@madamebkrt Idk, I think watching Barbie second is the better move. Watching it first means you have to wait there and watch until Oppenheimer was ready for viewing since you have nothing else to do until then. Meanwhile, watching Barbie second means you can up and leave the theater when you got sick of it, could've also asked for a refund if ya wanted to.

[@madamebkrt]

@@AeridisArt True. I was naively hoping the film would get better honestly. But I'll tell you what, it's the last Margot Robbie film I'm ever watching - I walked out of Babylon when that came out. Garbage.

[@davidmendez3899]

I keep seeing people do the “it’s just a kids’ movie for little girls”, which is weird cause it’s clearly a movie for depressed, 30 year old, friendless, childless, white women. it’s fairly obvious with the “baby dolls only let you play as a mom” joke. ignoring the fact that “mom stuff” in the past was mostly normal grownup stuff(cooking, cleaning, etc), kids would also SOCIALIZE with their dolls. they would talk to them and have tea/dinner parties cause that’s all most people had. socializing with FRIENDS. just because the doll was small(cheap and easy to play with), doesn’t mean it HAD to be a baby.

[@avarice7855]

Did you play with baby dolls David, did you pretend to give them their milk bottles and change their diapers and such? I'm assuming you're a guy based on your name, so I'm curious if you had your own dolls and played with them in this way as well. And if baby dolls are just about doing normal adult things, then why aren't little boys encouraged to play with baby dolls the same way little girls are?

[@anti1training]

It's a movie for everyone and is very meme worthy

[@RanMouri82]

​@@avarice7855I'm a woman born in the 80s, and I was never "encouraged" to play with baby dolls, but I liked it. In fact, I specifically asked my single dad to buy one for me. It's human nature for kids to want to play pretend as if they were adults. A natural part of being a girl is knowing you will likely grow up to become a mom. No need to suppress that.

[@davidmendez3899]

@@avarice7855 I’m sorry your parents hated you, but that doesn’t mean you should take it out on me.

[@anastasia-fr1gn]

Not to mention that little girls actually did play with dolls that weren’t babies in the past. Victorian girls played with peg dolls that they would dress up in the latest ladies fashion. Even in ancient times the dolls were not always baby dolls but of women.

[@ECKohns]

I preferred this movie when it was called Life Size with Tyra Banks and Lindsay Lohan.

[@MediumRareOpinions]

I was saying that when this came out. Nobody seemed to know that film happened like Barbie was a groundbreaking original concept but I knew I'd seen it before ..

[@cranbury25]

What does it say when 20 years ago, Disney made a better Barbie movie than Barbie today?

[@libRteedude]

I was thinking about this. Everybody was calling this "the first live-action Barbie film", and I was like "But I swear I saw Tyra Banks play Barbie before!" Glad someone else remembered it too.

[@sw33g3r3]

What I find funny is, as a girl, I related to a lot of the stuff that they poked fun at men, for example: when they make that joke about men explaining The Godfather, I fully related to that, not because I liked The Godfather, but there’s been many times I’ve tried explaining to a girl I like the plot and lore of Skyrim, or just explaining something in great detail in general, like…why is it bad for someone to talk about what they are passionate about?

[@LilLadyAy]

I remember thouragly explaining plots of my favourite fighting games and shounen anime back in the day, people would call me a boy and tomboy even though I'm highly girly.

[@KelShu]

The Kens deserved better in this movie, they were treated like second class citizens, and the movie wraps up that conflict by basically continuing to treat them unequally

[@magma41158]

I think that's the point of the movie. They're treated like women are in the real world. (As the narrator mentioned, they're no longer treated as second class citizens, but now treated with a bit more respect)

[@QuincyQuinn95]

@@magma41158 except the "real world" in the movie is a horrible caricature and if the Ken's equality would be equivalent to the "real world" of that movie (not reality), then yeah that's still really terrible and hard to stomach, harder still that people think its analogous to women irl...

[@Bonesawisready926]

And then some tiktok brainlets actually said "women are treated worse in the real world". Where are women barred from holding public office or owning property?

[@magma41158]

@@QuincyQuinn95 ok

[@silverscorpio24]

@@magma41158 Except that's not what the real "real world" is. Mattel's board is 50% women. Half the Supreme Court is women. *Ruth Handler was the co-founder of the Mattel company. IN THE 50'S.* And if Barbieland can influence the "real world", then shouldn't they promote _balance_ between men's and women's roles rather than be just as sexist but against the opposite sex?

[@aidoomcgoo7916]

If Barbie was made in the late 90s or early 2000's it would have been a cheesy yet charming nod to the brand that would have a cult following regardless of its quality. They made this type of movie way too fucking late so now it is injected with the same boring feminist talking points and buzz words like; muh capitalist, muh fascism & le patriarchy, and now we may never get a proper good Barbie for several decades. capitlist

[@MediumRareOpinions]

They did make that movie in the 2000s, they called it "Life-Size" and while it lacked the official Barbie Branding its basically the same idea.

[@MrNickPresley]

@@MediumRareOpinionsHoly shit I thought I was the only person who was reminded of that movie.

[@eamonclark4952]

Cannon Films was going to make a Barbie movie in the 80s about Barbie telling her owner that her dreams can come true not much is known about it other than that and it was said in a blurb and it never came to fruition because of the box office and critical failure Masters Of The Universe. All I know is that it would’ve been a lot better than this film and it would’ve been a way better Barbie movie than the Greta Gerwig film

[@ECKohns]

It probably would have been a very vapid and even stupid movie. That no one would take seriously. Like the Live Action Bratz or Josie and the Pussy Cats movies.

[@EquesTron]

The way you say "GRETA!!!" will be stuck in my head for a long while.

[@t.milrose7914]

Yeah; she sounds like Eartha Kitt. 🙂

[@samueltesta1558]

I never understood the whole Barbie being an unrealistic beauty standard. It’s a doll. A toy. I never looked at a cabbage patch kid as a child and thought, huh, I wonder why other girls don’t look like that. Not to mention that every male toy on the planet is just ripped with muscles on top of muscles but that’s not considered unrealistic cause no one talks about it. Probably because boys aren’t looking at He-Man and thinking “I wonder why I don’t look like that.” We just play with the toy. Cause it’s a toy.

[@angelaperrine9201]

Patriarchy is not Small Pox for Barbie. It is more like spices during the colonial era. After Kens dominated Barbieland, they brought more color in it. The Barbies found masculinity to be exotic since they caved so quickly.

[@silverscorpio24]

And while Ken's takeover was intentional, European colonists brought those diseases on accident.

[@angelaperrine9201]

@@silverscorpio24 , therefore, my spice comparison is more accurate.

[@elysemeyers1256]

1:11:00 I wished the ending had Midge finally giving birth and pull a Children of Men situation. Have the mother and daughter help and eventually bond over the experience, have it be funny in that her labor is like a real one but it’s just about popping off the magnetic belly holding the baby, which was the real mechanic of the toy. One the baby starts crying, _the first baby in Barbie land,_ all the Kens stop and look at it, and their paternal instincts kick in where they jokingly compete to be the best uncle/fun uncle/cool uncle, and bring it back to kids and the next generation being the future and the most important. While having the full circle of little girls smashing baby dolls for wanting a shallow representation of adulthood Barbie is, to actually being an adult and understanding the value of children, motherhood, and protecting that.

[@tadsgirl]

This is brilliant!

[@Femmeaesthetic]

pregnant barbie = weird fat barbie = empowering

[@macgyversmacbook1861]

This actually sounds adorable

[@cauzie8281]

Yes I actually fell down the Barbie rabbit hole about midge. This would’ve been great

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

The funny thing about this stupid representation thing is that if I had some sort of disability, the last thing I want to be reminded of is my disability and how incapable I am that someone has decided to take it upon themselves to remind me, patronizingly, that I can. My favorite thing about the progressive circus show is watching the feminists and trans agendas conflict against each other because they’re inherently opposed to each other.

[@christaberit]

What would have actually been fuckin funny is if Midge constantly switched back and forth between being pregnant and having a baby and then back again in every new scene.

[@ThunderClapClide]

The montage of the women on TikTok made me depressed. Movies can’t just be MOVIES anymore, good or bad. This is what happens when you make simple entertainment part of a movement. I’m glad Hollywood is on strike.

[@thatonea-hole]

Same, I hope Hollywood just dies

[@robertwoods3871]

I love how unoriginal and copy/paste these tiktoks are It's literally just "wall of text with emo white woman singing" every single time jfc

[@drxgonfire]

Midge was introduced as Barbie's best friend in the 60s and was always more family oriented. It's weird they portrayed her as desperate and needy in this movie and pretty much locked her away as if women should be ashamed of being family oriented. Also ngl some of the sets for the Happy Family line that the infamous Midge doll was a part of were really cool. You could have a whole neighborhood and then some.

[@AnimaVox_]

I actually had two of the matching sets when I was a kid. Midge with her baby (not the pregnant version), and Alan with the son. They brought some neat accessories, and I think one of the sets came with a foldable house frame. I think I had the grandparents from that series too. 🤔 It's been a while, so I'm not totally sure. When I got a bit older, I got into MyScene because I lost interest in dolls that looked "older" in age and had kids, lol. It felt like they were too much like my parents, which I couldn't relate to at all.

[@dingledongle455]

Midge is treated awkwardly due to she is implied to have had sex. Just like how the concerned parents and media treated it.

[@SailorDonut]

They also still make Midge so it's doubly confusing. They retired the *pregnant* Midge, but they didn't retire the whole character. (Also... they retire literally all dolls, so I don't get how pregnant Midge was somehow special. You can't get Olympic Gymnast Barbie anymore, either.) Midge was one of the main characters in Life in the Dreamhouse just 10 years ago

[@drxgonfire]

​@@SailorDonutProbably because the director thought she was being edgy or something, but it comes across, to me, like she doesn't understand the Barbie brand or Barbie herself.

[@frug5629]

@@drxgonfire Of course she doesn't get Barbie. The movie itself is proof of that. But they're not gonna try, they've got a victimhood complex to push.

[@SLiMJiM491]

"HIJARBIE abusive husband not included" 🤣💀💀

[@GigaChadh976]

"Now comes with removable head for honor killing adventures

[@reginaphalange9417]

​@@GigaChadh976 stones sold separately

[@Frostbite12211983]

The realistic body image argument gets on my nerves. Right, because Hulk, He-Man, Guile, Zangief, Hugo, Abigail, Colossus, and Juggernaut definitely have easily-attainable body types. The most attainable one I can think of is Mike Haggar. But hilariously enough, they ignore all of that. Were boys who played with Tonka trucks or GI Joe expected to get into construction or join the military?

[@Zepher0987]

The retort is usually male power fantasy.

[@Frostbite12211983]

@@Zepher0987 Naturally. To which you can reply with the same retort.

[@1SpicyMeataball]

"What are you saying, Greta?" 😂 I don't think even Greta knows what she's saying, other than unintentionally exposing the contradictions and hypocrisy of modern feminism in one giant garishly pink package.

[@nataliaalghul3526]

The only people who have ever told me to smile are women. Yes, I've been catcalled by men, but not a single one of them have told me to smile. I don't understand Hollywood's fixation on that specific trope

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Also, damn, context matters right. If you're cornered in a bar and this drunk guy is asking you to smile, I fully expect you to kick him between his legs. But I remember when asking a girl to smile was a trope in Romance movies. There's this girl who doesn't know what she wants in life and everyone around her seems too busy with their own lives and then this one guy comes up to her and tells her she's beautiful, she'd look even more beautiful if she smiles more often and in essence saying, "Stop worrying, you've come this far, just live in the moment, tomorrow will take care of itself. And if you want it, we can go it together." If your friends / siblings / parents are telling you to smile, it probably means they give a damn about you and noticed you aren't doing so good. I don't know when this became a men vs women issue.

[@lmahu6627]

​@@valentinegonsalves7322 Speaking of romance movies, it's not just the guys who would tell the girl to smile, her female companions might do so, too, whether it's a friend or a female family member. And it's always to encourage the girl, not "objectify" her, which is honestly an outlandish notion to me.

[@CaulkMongler]

Also of note: people like people who smile or seem happy in general.

[@hassathunter2464]

Cause of trend; Captain Marvel. I figure it maybe a trend cause they hire woman who can't act and always grumpy.

[@SeymoreTheDisappointed]

I would feel bad if my girlfriend broke up with me but if she broke up with because of barbie my sense of cringe would be too great to actually feel bad about the breakup

[@ag9953]

I'd honestly thank her for saving me from being with such a demented psycho.

[@YouWillBeHappyOrElse]

Would you feel bad if she broke up with you over your cringe grammar?

[@SeymoreTheDisappointed]

@@YouWillBeHappyOrElse women are retarded so she would have broken up with me and been wrong so no

[@handlestwice]

@YouWillBe Wow, “”big””” own.

[@RHBR01]

I haven't seen it and don't plan to. I think I'm just really sick of other women acting like this movie is Perfect and that anyone (especially men) who have a negative opinion of it is sexist and wrong. I'm tired of seeing other women throw tantrums over stuff like Oppenheimer not having enough female representation, and then acting like men are being babies when they don't like Barbie. It's so completely hypocritical.

[@Femmeaesthetic]

and they're entitled about the "male gaze" criticism" 😂

[@RanMouri82]

To the point of telling each other to break up with their boyfriends if they don't "get" the Barbie movie. 🙄

[@anti1training]

No one cares about Oppenheimer having female representation lol It's a fun movie. No one takes anything seriously. The message is good tbh. No one is mad at you for not liking the movie

[@anti1training]

​@@RanMouri82No one's doing that lol

[@MikeFireheart]

​@@anti1trainingYou haven't seen many videos then, because there are women who are actively declaring that they are using the Margot Barbie movie to test men on their dating potential. They're that delusional about their feminism agenda and their own opinions.

[@cynicalperson161]

Even my sisters said this wasn't all that and was just a 'white feminist' movie 😂

[@HonkHonkler]

Even specifying the race of the feminism? Cringe on your sister too. Doesn’t mean she (or you) are t feminists, but that $tupid racist feminist $hit. Yeah I’m done with humans.

[@Frostbite12211983]

It seems more and more that everything becomes about race, even when it has nothing to do with it.

[@mrsushicut]

Show me you're racist without saying it

[@johanaforever965]

I don’t remember this movie mentioning race once, why always bringing race everywhere ? This is just racism at this point, you see the irony now ?

[@cynicalperson161]

@@johanaforever965 I'm quite aware of the irony, it was just a joke that they pointed out to me.

[@SuperCrazyEstonian]

That intro is actually heartbreaking. At least for me. Its social decay in action and it fucking saddens me. Hollywood, despite it flaws used to produce AMAZING movies. But now we get this type of messaging? Yes, that does sadden my itty bitty hearty.

[@he_was_a_skater_dog]

That scene where Barbie meets the teenage girl has some god-like playwriting skills on display. - Hi, I'm Barbie. - I don't believe it. - Whaaat? I totally am Barbie. - Okay, I believe you're Barbie.

[@purpledragon1945]

dont forget fascist

[@bmardiney]

Oh please let this garbage fire win an Oscar! That will be the final nail in the coffin of that award. Imagine the Barbie movie being considered on the same level as Schindler’s List.

[@Femmeaesthetic]

for some reason I was so frustrated with simu's interview the way how he was talking about "masculinity", the kens have always represented positive side of masculinity, they weren't even hyper masculine but neutral before this movie even existed!!!

[@doctorgrubious7725]

they fucked Ryan Gosling, Ken was literally never a blonde surfer, dude was a preppie college/rich kid, I don't get the concept in the slightest, 💀

[@mikeyjamieson4715]

"I'm so excited to explore my pinkness," he said *wearing BLUE at the premiere. *

[@reginaphalange9417]

this movie is just totally hypocritical and NOT feminist (maybe neo"feminist"/misandrist) You can't attack the patriarchy (and strangely, just the western one) while presenting the matriarchy as an ideal world. Also, you can't present the Barbies as the most intelligent, capable, etc. while saying it only took a brief moment for one single Ken to take over the entire barbiland, they can't be both rulers and victims, you can't have it both ways

[@asshat8892]

That’s what makes it such an amazing movie. it’s almost like real 4th wave feminists. They’re both strong independent and the victims at the same time.

[@1SpicyMeataball]

Oh, it's feminist alright. Fourth wave. Less about equal rights and more "we need to deconstruct gender so there is no gender," and now we have confused teenaged girls getting double mastectomies and men in dresses invading women's spaces.

[@Segadrome]

Something I'd like to mention about the 2001: Space Odyssey reference. The great Orson Welles once said: "The most DETESTABLE thing in cinema is The Homage." Make of that what you will with Gerwig.

[@ECKohns]

Every movie and TV show has referenced and parodied 2001: A Space Odyssey endlessly for over 50 years straight, that it’s impossible to take the original movie seriously anymore.

[@michaelwoods8570]

Watched it with my sister. Neither of us loved it or hated it. We were just really confused about what the message was. Also, this movie is 40% plot and 60% aesthetic, it did not need to be nearly 2 hours. The feminism also was so 2014 and it constantly felt like almost satire but you can tell they actually believed it.

[@jaylin4356]

This is exactly what happened with my mother and I. Granted, we missed part of the beginning, but by the time we were over we had no idea what message we were supposed to get from it. Surprisingly enough, radical feminists thought it was cheap too so… That’s something I guess lol.

[@PaceBreaker]

I remember growing up in the 90s we used to make fun of Ken and talk about him being emasculated and all that. But if you think about it, Ken's winning at life. Guy has a beautiful, accomplished lady (with many jobs, fine house and car) and neither of them want for anything. Dude's basically a stay-at-home husband/boyfriend. What this movie tried to do doesn't make sense for Ken since he'd be nothing but supportive of Barbie and maybe even inspired to be his best self and pursue his own dreams. That would be empowering.

[@HonkHonkler]

Cringe

[@laughingseagull000]

@@HonkHonkleroh I get it. You’re trying to provoke arguments so there are more comments on the video so it’s boosted in the algorithm, right?

[@cherrylimeali4393]

Stay-at-home-husbands for the win!

[@HonkHonkler]

@@laughingseagull000 No. People who champion this cucked meme, are cringe.

[@HonkHonkler]

@@cherrylimeali4393 Again, noc ringe.

[@antwanjenkins6735]

I had a bunch of feminist and simps mad at me because I said this is a feminist movie that hated men, and that it unintentionally made Ken more of a better character than Barbie in her own movie, yet all they and this movie did was prove me right lol.

[@PurpleStarryGalaxy]

After this movie, I hope they don't get ideas to do a redo of the Bratz live action movie. You can mess up Barbie and Monster High but don’t touch my Bratz

[@misskat7567]

They already did a live action of Bratz. It's OK, but it was also before the "woke social justice feminist" era, so that makes it 10x better already.

[@QuincyQuinn95]

@@misskat7567 that's why they said "don't get ideas to do a redo"

[@NoPantsBaby]

Premiers on 9/11. Perfection.

[@ministryofwrongthink6962]

Singlehandedly undoes the other thing that happened

[@RanMouri82]

​@@ministryofwrongthink6962 Or at least suits its misery.

[@ministryofwrongthink6962]

@@RanMouri82 I was tryna figure out what you meant and then..just like a plane…

[@matthewcherrington2634]

It came in like a wrecking ball

[@reaps912]

Mr President a second doll has hit the tower

[@ddaman7854]

There was a comment on a video, the commentor actually said that they genuinely found Barbie more "thought provoking" than Oppenheimer...

[@The_Ballo]

Only thought I had during Oppenheimer is when were they going to bring up all the people they (US Berkeley at the behest of Oppenheimer) purposely irradiated for experimental purposes.

[@YouWillBeHappyOrElse]

That's probably because it auto-corrected "thot-provoking".

[@reginaphalange9417]

"Morpheus gave neo a choice..." 😂 Speaking of this, remember how Trinity was a real strong female character, yet able to share the screen with a male protagonist?

[@RanMouri82]

And this was before the Wachowski brothers became the Wachowski "sisters".

[@marywinchester1322]

🤣🤣🤣

[@mbob4337]

I still don't understand the whole Barbie's body shape was unattainable. Yeah, she's plastic. If you were trying to get that size waist. That's on you. Guys didn't try to get arms 2x their torso size. Or have small legs and huge upper bodies.

[@doctorgrubious7725]

because men know that 1. Its plastic 2. We would 100% get ripped apart by optimus prime

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Imagine if I said Superman is garbage because men are expected to have six-pack abs and lift cars. When I see women ogling over shirtless Chris Hemsworth and Henry Cavill and Jason Momoa and Ryan Gosling in THIS same movie, my first thought isn't, "Damn, I wish I had a six-pack so women women would love me. And eff this guy for unrealistic body standards that I can't attain." I'm sitting there going, "This guy is jacked! Holy shit! What's his diet? What his gym game? How much water does he drink, how much does he lift?"

[@YouWillBeHappyOrElse]

@@valentinegonsalves7322 I hope you're later going, "I knew there was a reason Arnie no longer looks like that. Damn, that's horrifying, what Hollywood makes men do to themselves." Please look after your best health; a few years of hypertrophied muscle isn't worth decades of pain!

[@mrs.kenoobi]

Thank you for mentioning Toy Story 4. Woody giving up everything for Bo was so freaking weak and made no sense for the character.

[@marywinchester1322]

Toy Story was only meant to be a trilogy.

[@lmahu6627]

​@@marywinchester1322 There's no other person I know in my life who loves _Toy Story_ more than my sister, and she dislikes the fourth movie.

[@thatonea-hole]

​@@lmahu6627 Just like with Star Wars after episode 6, Toy Story 4 IS NOT cannon & does not matter!!

[@Bonesawisready926]

Still pissed that won an oscar over Klaus

[@realityshifter3399]

@mr.kenobi What about didn't make sense to his character? Especially when Andy isn't in the picture anymore?

[@jon2949]

Ken:”Are you lost Barbie girl?”

[@bertimusprime7900]

😂

[@kyon813]

In your Barbie World

[@spiderleenie]

This is the best Barbie review yet. It breaks down literally every single problem that I have with the movie. And, yeah, I'm a woman who grew up playing with Barbies. I'm an 80's baby, so I entirely agree that 80s and 90s kids had the best Barbies, hands down. I know that this movie gets praise for its look, but I think it could have done SO much more with its aesthetics. I would forgive a lot about this movie if it actually were kid-friendly, too (and it is so NOT kid friendly whatsoever). This movie was really made for middle-aged winos who cry about their cats, and those women-children lose their minds whenever someone says that they didn't like it. You know the movie done effed up when you find yourself rooting for Ken the entire time. And he is absolutely the most likable character in the entire damn movie.

[@anthonyguidas2012]

How come the movie shows a plus size Barbie, but no dad bod Ken

[@MizzFujin]

Greta said she never had a barbie in her childhood and it shows. She also got the guy tht wrote marriage story, a movie about divorce, to write a movie about kids innocent childhood doll. Then greta goes on to be a home wrecker and take someone else's man.

[@jacobtheorangeyoshi8710]

This was probably one of the only movie experiences where I felt myself losing hope and enjoyment more and more as the runtime went on.

[@HonkHonkler]

I feel that way about life as I continue going on and on lol.

[@Pha5ma]

Likewise

[@jeremytitus9519]

@@HonkHonklerlife is like a Barbie movie, yeah

[@madamebkrt]

Same! I just sat there stone-faced by about the halfway point, and it felt never-ending. My sister and I left the theatre depressed.

[@HonkHonkler]

@@jeremytitus9519 No it's not. Off yourself.

[@Nabinut]

The big Red flag to me was the tagline: Barbie's Everything, Ken is just Ken. People ran with it, thinking it was funny but it was more sinister than that and it shows the real message behind the movie before it was released.

[@MikeFireheart]

Genuinely love these more honest views on Margot Barbie, where you actually talk about the movie, whereas other more positive reviews are constantly going on tangents about men not liking the film for half of their reviews.

[@silverscorpio24]

J did a reaction stream on a positive Barbie review video you should watch. The video's everything wrong with Barbie movie lovers and J shows no mercy.

[@MikeFireheart]

@@silverscorpio24 Cool, I'll check it out tomorrow.

[@mrshmuga9]

In my experience (I’m also biased), people who tend to be/seen as “more critical”, have better justifications (or clearer ones) for why they like/dislike something. Because they think about it a lot/deeply. Versus the people who say “stop being a hater” or essentially “love” everything, don’t. Because they don’t think about something beyond the surface-level (or ignore it) to even be aware of it’s faults to discern the difference. Which is why they’ll only turn around after like 6-12 months. Because the honeymoon phase is over and most of their interest is based on the immediacy of it and the IP.

[@MikeFireheart]

@@mrshmuga9 Very true and I have seen that pattern as well, where multiple people who are vocal about liking a certain hot topic film/show, only to come out months later saying it wasn't as good as they thought it was. These are often more left leaning individuals, which isn't surprising with how they vote on surface level politics, but that's besides the point. Overall, it's just a lot of the same people looking at things with a surface level point of view, ultimately changing their minds after the damage was done.

[@mrshmuga9]

@@MikeFireheart It’s irritating because they’ll complain “why do you care, bro?” as if being invested in anything is “cringe”, just because _they’re_ not invested in anything (or put out the illusion they aren’t). You don’t care? Great, go somewhere else and “not care” then because if you don’t, no one needs to listen to you. I’m liking the term “tourist” or “cultural tourist” used to describe these people. They show up, and don’t care if they ruin anything because they’re not invested and thus have no reason to care if something gets ruined in the process. But the people who do are affected. And they do this all while claiming they “care” about people. They only care about appearing to care, not by actually listening or talking to people who _are_ invested.

[@jjjmadness8306]

The funniest (in fact, the only funny) part about this movie is that despite going out of its way to being a feminist film, it made Ken, the Alpha male Chad, the most popular and sympathetic character.

[@anti1training]

That was on purpose. It's not an anti men movie. Both sides are wrong

[@ethanhinton4549]

@@anti1training uhh looking at the views expoused by the creators I'm pressing X to doubt.

[@anti1training]

@@ethanhinton4549 feminist isn't anti men fam. Just watch the movie. It's fun and you'll laugh all the way through. Remember, you are Kenough 😤💪🏼

[@ethanhinton4549]

@@anti1training well if I didn't know you were a troll already...

[@HonkHonkler]

Accidentally and still hate Ken and Gosling. Still not adopting this cuck into any peeps l meme.

[@knyazhe_dimitrii]

Confession time. Though being a guy in the world of PATRIARCHY (which is hardly a joke, welcome to Russia, lol), I liked barbie dolls. I found them cute and attractive. 15 years later my preferences to women changed drastically. I could even say that I like girls with features which, as feminists would say, are not approved by patriarchy (for example I like introverted girls in glasses who wear oversized clothes and goth girls). So yeah, Barbie dolls never made me think "every woman must look like this blond piece of plastic". On the contrary, it helped me play with girls and make lots of female friends which helped me to understand them better and see how different and cool they are. So, Gretta, stop shitting on Barbie, especially, when you are making money on her name.

[@HonkHonkler]

Cringe

[@kylefrank638]

That last bit. It's the same species as the MCU making meta-fun of comic book names and plots yet still heavily banking on them because original stories without some allusion to tried-and-true works wouldn't sell so well.

[@cherrylimeali4393]

Funny, it's almost like in the real world, men are attracted to a lot of different traits!

[@HonkHonkler]

We don't live in a patriarchy, not even Russia. Cringe.

[@YouWillBeHappyOrElse]

@@HonkHonkler You sound like the kind of guy who complains that women all want the same kind of guy, but calls being a different kind of guy and liking different kinds of girls "cringe".

[@DonnaCPunk]

I related to absolutely nothing in all of the speeches Ferrera's character gave about being a woman. I was like, "I don't give a flying f**k. Who cares about any of this s**t?? Am I doing woman wrong or something?"

[@jeremytitus9519]

I somehow pissed my girlfriend off over the Barbie movie (which I didn’t even see) while she was driving me back to my place. She was ready to kick me out of my car and have me walk the rest of the way home. I told her “If you want to act this way over some stupid shit like this, that’s your choice. Your emotions have nothing to do with me.” She took a few minutes to calm her goofy ass down, then we walked to a lovely nearby park and devoured a tasty halal snack box. What I’m saying is that Barbie sucks, but meat and chips all moist and mushed together is the opposite of that.

[@RanMouri82]

Glad she was able to come to her senses. Weird ideology really messes up the brain.

[@ninjanibba4259]

You might need to watch her, that was a red flag sign...there might be others

[@YouWillBeHappyOrElse]

@@ninjanibba4259 I don't know; it sounds like she recognized she was getting out of control and corrected course rather than doing something stupid. Which means, even when she gets into a tizzy, she respects him enough to take a step back and listen, admit she was wrong, and adjust. That's not easy, especially when there's no shortage of people out to declare you a "bad risk" because you falter even a little. Women tizzy sometimes, and we're wrong sometimes. What matters is if we recognize where we're going wrong, check ourselves, and choose to do better. If we can do that...well, that puts us lightyears ahead of most men AND women.

[@orlylando]

A great premise for a Barbie movie would be an older brother reconnecting with his little sister by playing Barbies with her. The story they're telling with them would have been played out by Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling, ala "Lego Movie". The story would get derailed by the older brother not just wanting to do "girly" things, and through their emotional conflict, they figure out a way to tell their own story with Barbie. Or, it could've been a single father playing Barbies with his daughter that he only gets to see on the weekends. He has to bring himself to do something he would consider "girly" to connect with his daughter. Then, you could have the "feminist" themes of what makes something "girly" or not while bringing a male to play with a female child and connect through the magic of Barbie. The Hollywood writers are high on their own farts...

[@pokerface4396]

The Hollywood writers forgot how to human relationships it seems.

[@mozzdog]

Women who use this as a litmus test will undoubtedly be wondering why they can't find happiness while posting a meme, saying "Friday night's alright with wine and a movie". oh and the comment on approaching Margot and Ryan, letting him know he looks good to give him support in pink, and aren't gonna go near Margot for fear of being sued, let's me know that Greta is WAY out of touch with the real world that Greta helped create.

[@arnold20139]

What's funnier is that this movie destroyed relationships. Like if one movie destroyed your relationships than you didn't have a relationship to begin with. 😂

[@Wraiths_and_Wreckage]

What's hilarious is that everyone was happy in Ken's patriarchy. Until Barbie came along and told the other Barbies they shoukdn't be happy. This is a perfect feminist movie actually.

[@CaulkMongler]

Exactly that, Barbies AND Ken’s were all happy in the Ken’s world but ONLY Barbies were happy in their world 💀💀💀 that’s sorta… ironic.

[@kurestor1603]

On one hand, true, but on the other hand, it was pretty much outright stated that the Barbies are being mind controlled. That entire section is basically just the Stepford Wives.

[@YouWillBeHappyOrElse]

@@kurestor1603 Mind control: the trope for when you need your character to do things but also have no agency or responsibility

[@Thomperfan]

Once again, J has knocked it out of the ballpark. And you know what the most damning fact of the matter is? All the issues with the story and characters and humor stem from one problem in particular: This movie prioritizes its message over being an entertaining experience. Barbie is more concerned with beating into our skulls that the patriarchy is bad that even when it tries to provide jokes and entertainment they fall flat on their face, because rather than molding the message out of the story, characters and jokes, the story, jokes and characters are molded to fit the message. I’m not saying that movies should NOT have themes messages, or artistic statements. What I’m saying is that they shouldn’t overshadow the movie being an entertaining experience. As Stan Marsh once said, “We go to movies to be entertained” Artistic statements may be enough to carry a short film or documentary, but if I, or my parents, are paying money to go sit and watch a multiple-hour-long production, if I’m not entertained, it’ll just feel like a waste of time, regardless of what message or statement was made. And if any of you still doubt if I actually like it when TV and movies try to teach things, most of my favorite TV shows of all time are ones that teach preschool/kindergarten grade lessons, like Thomas the Tank Engine & Friends, Sesame Street, and Blue's Clues, but the reason I still enjoy watching them even though I’m past their target age demographic is because the crews behind each of them manage to make the way they get their lessons across entertaining with fun plots, and endearing characters. Yes, I know C is for cookie, but I don’t care, because I’m watching a character I enjoy express his passion for baked goods. I don’t care that I know that being arrogant is not a desirable thing to be, I enjoy watching James the Red Engine, because he’s a dynamic and enjoyable part of the show. And I may already know what the answer to Blue’s Clues is, but I play along because Steve is such an entertaining person to be around. These shows offer plenty of good elements that I enjoy, and the fact that they teach kids basic lessons is just a bonus. This also applies to adult shows like The Simpsons, South Park, and It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Yes, they’re very reliant on satire, and social commentary, but the reason I enjoy them is because I find the characters and the situations entertaining and hilarious. If you’re not making the point you’re trying to get across as entertaining, engaging, and enjoyable to watch as it possibly can be, then I might as well be watching the news. And just to be clear, a movie can make me feel other emotions besides joy, and I can still be entertained by it. If the movie I’m watching is trying to get me to feel sad, or mad, or scared, or anything else like that. As long as I’m engaged in what’s going on, I’m entertained by it. All, or at least, most of the movies I love and enjoy have strong themes, morals, and statements, BUT they manage to make all the things I just listed not take precedence over being an entertaining experience. The reason I wasn’t a fan of the Barbie movie was that while it certainly did try to provide an entertaining experience, it eventually let its message take over the story, and morphed into an angry lecture making the most base-level statements about the treatment of different genders in our society. Fundamentally, I’m not getting anything here that I couldn’t get from just watching CNN or reading a news article. And because of that, it's not something I would watch again. If you want to watch a movie about a popular toy IP, just watch the Lego Movie. It features an actually iconic and defined cast of characters that aren't just mouthpieces for the filmmaker's beliefs, an actually good relationship between a guy and a girl, Will Ferrell playing an actually threatening antagonist, actual jokes that come at a rapid-fire pace, no inappropriate sexual comments, a speech that isn't just inane complaining/dribble, and messages and morals that derive from the story and characters, rather than the other way around.

[@mikeyjamieson4715]

I've always said, there's nothing inherently wrong with incorporating social commentary in your media; but when it has all the subtlety and nuance of a sledgehammer, it's just gonna come across as preachy and forced.

[@Thomperfan]

@@mikeyjamieson4715 But also, you can have obvious and non-subtle themes and messages, as long as you have other entertaining factors to fall back on. Going back to what I said earlier, Sesame Street taught kids very obvious lessons, and pretty much spelled everything out for them, but the reason it worked so well, at least in the first 50 seasons, was that it had amazing songs, killer humor, a beloved cast of one-note yet three-dimensional characters that were able to stand the test of time, and even some pretty engaging storylines. Not to mention, it's variety show format made it so if one particular segment or scene didn't entertain you, there was bound to be something else that would. The reason Barbie doesn't work is because, it's so concerned with getting its "Patriarchy is Bad" message across, that instead of finding a way to work the message into the story, it instead hijacks the story to hammer in the message, and leaves hardly any room to provide a nuanced depiction of the real world, properly establish the side characters or their relationships with the main characters, or tell that many actual jokes. Which means all it has going for it is the message. And if you want me to enjoy your story and watch it again and again, that's not something you want to shoot far.

[@NebLleb]

Everything you said is 100% on the money! Movies, TV shows, comics, etc. CAN have themes, messages, or artistic statements. The trick is to make sure they're not hyper-focused on and that you make sure that the product entertains. Lemme give you an example: I've watched a fair bit of anime as a young adult, and one of those shows I took a liking to was a mecha series simply titled Mobile Suit Gundam. In case you don't know, that show, its direct sequel show Zeta Gundam and most of their successors are VERY politically charged, being gritty looks into futuristic warfare (barring two exceptions, one that's FAR better than the other, more recent one), but the key focus is on telling a story with characters you care about and want to see live another day each episode. Gundam is fantastic not because it tells us that war is bad, it's that watching Amuro Ray go from reluctant soldier, to ungrateful deserter, to humbled hero, to psychic Newtype is a compelling journey to witness, and seeing the cast around him go on their own journeys, notably Sayla, is also gripping to look at. And children's shows and films? The Land Before Time is one of my all time favourite films, even if the messages therein can be easily grasped by kids; watching Littlefoot and co. grow as characters as they make their pilgrimage to the Great Valley is a genuinely enthralling viewing experience for people of all ages, and you care for them because they're great, well written characters with interesting personalities and character arcs. When you focus on the quality of the stories you're telling, the themes, messages, and statements you include ring even stronger for those who see them. [And yes, J always knocks it out. Women tend to be much better at this sort of thing than Men at the moment IMO]

[@clown-cult96]

I’m a fat, mixed race, butch lesbian. I knew this movie wasn’t going to be for me. I’ve basically developed an inbuilt sixth sense for media that goes on and on about being being created by women for all women to be empowered by, because I know it never will. They never fucking mean it. So yes, I was especially dubious about this movie, especially as the trailers brought up 2016 buzzfeed vibes like the ghost of Christmas past, and I laughed with my girlfriend making a lot of “I bet this will happen, I bet that will happen” jokes and holy fucking shit every joke we made, they actually did it. They actually went out and made yet another tired ass boy vs girl film. They really stuck another thin, straight, rich, blonde white woman on the screen and said “she’s just like you! Feel bad for her!” In the year of our lord, 2023, they really did all of that. Also bull fucking shit to Margot Robbie and her disturbingly large mouth, talking about barbies not having any sexual identity or knowledge cuz kids played with them. Every single kid who had barbies did something at least kinda fucked up with them cuz we were bored, imaginative and saw a few seconds of a movie our parents watched when they thought we were in bed. If they actually wanted to make it look like kids were controlling these dolls, it would’ve been like the Hunger Games in there.

[@macgyversmacbook1861]

Exactly! The moment I found the closet in my grandparents house with all of my Aunt’s old Kens and Barbies as a little kid it Instantaneously turned into a miniature nudist colony

[@clown-cult96]

@@macgyversmacbook1861this is what I’m talking about 😂 I get some kids played nice normal stuff with dolls, but there’s an equal amount of us that did the most heinous shit little kids could think of!

[@RanMouri82]

Uh oh, don't use the "butch" term anymore, that's supposedly insensitive to trans men. 😅

[@hack5770]

Oh my gosh I found my people

[@clown-cult96]

@@RanMouri82I’ve never met a trans man who had an issue with it

[@jeremytitus9519]

27:36 “Stereotypical Barbie” is so weird, conceptually. Like, as a dude who never ever gaze a shit about Barbie, stereotypical Barbie for me is “Astronaut, Surgeon, Physicist, Racecar Driver…” basically Queen-of-all-trades polymathic Renaissance Woman.

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

I'm a simple man, I saw the trailer for Barbie, then I didn't watch it.

[@Zepher0987]

I don't get the people saying the trailer looked good. I thought it looked cringe and annoying. Though I would take what they advertised over what they delivered any day.

[@QuincyQuinn95]

@@Zepher0987 That at least was up to taste... the stellar set design for Barbieland spoke to a lot of potential for people. And while the "beach off" joke was in the trailers, a smattering of adult jokes for a slightly older audience never hurt anyone (if a lil immature). If they kept it light and fun like the trailer, a lot more people would be happy.

[@LissaChelle9002]

I say this as a woman whose early years were dominated by Barbie and all things pink: this movie came out at least a decade, maybe even two, later than it should've. Its lacking plot and completely forgettable/useless characters are masked by bright colors and somewhat decent visuals. It's not an homage to Barbie, it's another tool to spread The Super Extra Special Message of Empowerment and Validity (only for women, of course. Men can die in a hole of toxic masculinity). When that one dude called it "Black Panther for White Bitches," I damn near died.

[@c3lmitz619]

This movie is for kids, if those kids were fully grown infantilized women. Don’t worry corporate America is going to rescue us from ourselves.

[@lieutenantotaku4151]

Last Action Hero was a good counter example, but I think the live action Fat Albert movie did the same concept pretty well too. The fish out of water for kids characters is pretty low hanging fruit for a movie plot, but that's what Barbie SHOULD have done with this story in particular. The fact Warner bros greenlit this script at all means that meritocracy is a dead concept.

[@austin9568AuraMasterDX]

"When Ken came down from The Real World with the two tablets of the Patriarchy in his hands, he was not aware that his face was radiant because he had spoken with the LORD." "When Seemu and all the Kenites saw Ken, his face was radiant, and they were afraid to come near him." -The Ken Commandments

[@elysemeyers1256]

1:20:41 my grandmother had a double mastectomy from cancer and wore those. I didn’t know Ruth was a part of that, good for her for helping out my grandma!

[@trevin277]

Love how some people will say this disproves "go woke, go broke" when it anything it's an exception that proves the rule. Thw advertising team went out of their way to make the first ad an apolitical joke scene while conveniently not mentioning at least 20 minutes of this movie will be a 30 year old white woman complaining and ranting about how hard life is.

[@rickymcn1]

I get where you're coming from but if it was just the marketing word of mouth would have killed it. "Go woke, get broke" is useful shorthand but there's lots of factors to it. When the saying actually manifests in real life it's because the woke aspects of the movie/tv show/company/comic etc override the original appeal of the product. For example trying to make a He-Man show but a female is the lead. Or the current state Star Wars finds itself in by trying to make it for girls. Or changing the Doctor to a female. While Barbie is undoubtedly insufferable woke and dreadful in every aspect it's still a Barbie movie made by and for girls/women. That, in my opinion, is why it succeeded. Hollywood needs to learn from this and realise that you should make things for the demographic they are intended for, but they won't. They'll probably think that their woke BS can work no matter the context despite all evidence to the contrary. Didn't mean to write that much. TL;DR It worked because women hate men. (just kidding, read my comment you lazy bell ends)

[@ophanimangel3143]

@@rickymcn1Captain Marvel movie was a box office success yet now near forgotten in the so called pop culture zeitgeist a few years later. This movie will definitely be looked back in the same manner. It’s no classic.

[@reginaphalange9417]

"because we all know that when a man is cheated on, he always blames the other man..." 💯🎯

[@giguyjoe]

5:36 It's a similar deal to when The Simpsons came around and everybody was saying "Yeah I relate WAY more to the family in the Simpsons then I ever did the ones in Full House, All in the Family, Family Matters, The Cosby Show, and all that." it's like dude. They weren't the standard. They were never meant to simply be relatable. They were meant to be the ideal.

[@Chris_Chansen]

I now have “WHAT ARE YOU SAYING, GRETA?!” Burned in my head.

[@Freezient]

26:19 wait “Gone Girl” isn’t this movie about a narcissist insane woman? What are they even talking about? So if I remember correctly all of the Barbies are assigned one Ken, Ryan Gosling’s Ken is Margot Robbie’s Barbie, hence why he only pursues her. The same with some of the other Barbies and Kens, I have no idea why Simu Liu’s Ken is pursuing Margot Barbie though