Barrels & Twist Rates | AB101 Pt.6

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Many people don't understand me when I say that a particular barrel is "better for long range" or is "better suited to 25m benchrest". Surely an accurate 25m barrel would replicate its accuracy at longer ranges? That is not always the case, and this video explains why.
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@iPsychlops
@iPsychlops 2 жыл бұрын
This was an extremely clear and concise explanation of spin stabilization and the potential problems with over-stabilization that occur and it even applies well to powder guns at long range.
@WilliamParmley
@WilliamParmley 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and I will definitely watch again to absorb everything. I am enjoying this series tremendously.
@64dexta
@64dexta 7 жыл бұрын
Well after the second viewing I think I have about grasped the majority of it. I am pleased that you have taken your time to do this work Matt, it is nice to have an understanding of what happens when we use our rifles. Thanks again and good luck.
@toms8818
@toms8818 7 жыл бұрын
Matt, thank you for tackling such hard topics with such clarity. You contribute tremendously to this hobby, God bless.
@joedejesus6363
@joedejesus6363 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, I really learn an enormous amount of information from watching your channel. I never knew about the ratio on a rifle barrel, and pellet trajectory, but you hit the mark by your easy to follow and simple way to understand. Thanks.
@the.original.throwback
@the.original.throwback 7 жыл бұрын
What a great educational video series for all airgun enthusiasts, beginner and veteran alike. Thanks, Matt. Jess
@RorySeanWainer
@RorySeanWainer 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making a very informative & well-described series
@richard17771
@richard17771 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing video thank you for a great lesson. I know so much more about rifling and twist rates now. This will definitely help me with future purchases. And shooting longer distances.
@julian-vm5ec
@julian-vm5ec 7 жыл бұрын
I subscribe to many air gun You Tube channels for entertainment, but you entertain and educate as well, thanks for all your hard work , keep it up .
@fmh357
@fmh357 6 жыл бұрын
I happened upon your website by accident but I just wanted to say it's been very educational as well as entertaining. In other words "you done good".
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 7 жыл бұрын
Good instructions. I did have to watch it twice,..but I found that there a few questions answered here. Now I know why my rifle had a couple of minor problems. Thanks for this.
@SickMeds
@SickMeds 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you back with the topic, its been months since last part ...
@dougdunlap6638
@dougdunlap6638 7 жыл бұрын
An extremely difficult topic however you do an excellent job of explaining it. I do understand much more now. Thank You. I enjoy all of your video's .
@owenmcghee8837
@owenmcghee8837 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Matt keep it up. you get the message out there instead of keeping it to yourself.
@waltereliamusic8071
@waltereliamusic8071 Жыл бұрын
Congrats from Sao Paulo Brazil. Very import topic and deep subjects with always great explanations from an expert. Learning so much from you! Thank you so much!
@lelandadcock3871
@lelandadcock3871 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a nice video! I am new to Air guns and got my 1st one last week. It is a Huntsman Regal XL and I love it. This Video put much light on a lot of questions I had about barrels and pellet fight, thank you!
@lianthawmte1041
@lianthawmte1041 7 жыл бұрын
everytime i saw your notification it overwhelms me...keep posting bro. nice work
@bluegray8503
@bluegray8503 7 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of the minute dynamics of speed and twist rates. A third dimension seems very important weight specific pellets matched to specific barrel is as important as barrel dynamics as well.
@joescuderisr6663
@joescuderisr6663 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, I am starting to understand just how much is involved in airguns, thank you so much, --Joe
@Ferrari250GTO1962
@Ferrari250GTO1962 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent accurate thorough information. Very very well done.
@JM10344
@JM10344 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt it's crazy how much I've learned from you. Just put the stock valve return spring back in the Fx Impact with a 600mm barrel and your slugger kit. The kit is great but like you said if you're running low reg pressure and a 600mm the stronger spring is were the magic is. Yes instantly I was able to literally hear myself power tuning the Impact right to the point were the DB level drops and the gun smooths out. Feels great I'll find out how it groups later. Thank you Matt.
@wayneclarke9291
@wayneclarke9291 7 жыл бұрын
Some very good points there well laid out and informative video, nice 1.
@howdydoody30204b
@howdydoody30204b 7 жыл бұрын
What a great series. Thanks!
@SquirrelHunter
@SquirrelHunter 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative, Matt ;-)
@kangmashakim3998
@kangmashakim3998 5 жыл бұрын
Well now i am sinking by your knowledge, deep knowledge , perfect dude. Thanks so much Time to note again.
@dunkanmccleud5613
@dunkanmccleud5613 7 жыл бұрын
sumamente interesantes los conceptos que expones sobre los factores previps a la balistica interna, intermedia y terminal felicidades y espero que hagas mas vodeos con aspectos tecnicos y tecnologicos saludos desde MEXICO
@rlbadger1698
@rlbadger1698 7 жыл бұрын
I am a machinist. Old school manual. A common mistake in machining crowns is to indicate off the outside of the barrel. A crown should be machined in the chuck not hanging out. It should be indicated on the lands AND grooves. With of course care to be taken in not induce internal compression.
@erichaskell
@erichaskell 7 жыл бұрын
Rl Badger please explain "machined in the chuck and not hanging out". If you indicate on the lands and the groves and these two are different how do you reconcile? Thanks.
@etiredevill7834
@etiredevill7834 7 жыл бұрын
@Eric H. The Goal, as I understand, is for the crown relief machining to be concentric with the inside of the barrel. Two parts Badger indicates. 1. "Indicate off the lands and grooves" Process where you measure the concentricity of the cutting tool with respect to the inside of the barrel. 2. Minimize the flexure of the barrel during high cutting forces, by holding the barrel in the chuck close to the crown, and not protruding. Last point - Badger indicated, don't squeeze the chuck excessively tight around the crown, as this may also damage it.
@raysimon1368
@raysimon1368 Жыл бұрын
The only reason so called machinists indicate of the od is because it is easier you are 100% correct seen lots of barrels ruined by idiots that call themselves a gunsmith had one of mine done that way you could see the run out on the crown with your eye
@SpinMeneer
@SpinMeneer 7 жыл бұрын
I really learned a lot of this. I'm a new person in the airgun world so this is very helpfull
@MuzafarTarar
@MuzafarTarar 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful series and lots of effort behind learning it and explaining it to ppl like us stay blessed buddy
@vansantsam
@vansantsam 5 жыл бұрын
Deep rifling or more grove rifling also helps to reduce spin in flight.. They create sort of paddle like fins on the side of the pellet and these fins grab air that is passing by and causes the rotation to slow..
@jamesmarriott9972
@jamesmarriott9972 7 жыл бұрын
we have ben taylor to thank for the smooth twist barrel, FX bought the rights to it. sorry for being a pedant, but he's the real genius. love your video's by the way, please don't think me rude, you happen to be one of the best channels for information regarding air rifles and enjoy your content greatly. keep up the good work and again sorry for if i came across as a twat, just love me a genius englishman. love from cornwall
@azz187
@azz187 7 жыл бұрын
James Marriott exactly what I was about to say
@andychapman9687
@andychapman9687 7 жыл бұрын
Knew Ben Taylor, Dave Theobald from Theoben well when I worked at Airgun World mag for many years. Fx Boss and Royale are really descended from the Rapid 7 because of Ben but obviously with redesign. Excellent work Matt, love the videos.
@robertqueberg4612
@robertqueberg4612 5 жыл бұрын
From what I have read about the “smooth twist” rifling method, it seems to be a derivative of the gain twist rifling used by several companies during the earliest years of the American Civil War. The best known firearms using gain twist were the Colt Army and Navy revolvers. Another time for the saying about nothing new under the sun.
@arieldietz8574
@arieldietz8574 6 жыл бұрын
Great info man. Excellent videos.
@ghostrec04
@ghostrec04 2 жыл бұрын
The guy has followed has passion... Thanks bro...informative video.
@tommanfs6843
@tommanfs6843 3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this series ........ learning a lot!
@joachimschumann6069
@joachimschumann6069 4 жыл бұрын
clear and understandable , thanks a lot for this amazing explaination 👍👍👍
@michaelbogdovitz2157
@michaelbogdovitz2157 Жыл бұрын
Great informational videos. Thank you.
@salehal-ghamdi1329
@salehal-ghamdi1329 7 жыл бұрын
Great video and fruitful information... I think it is not complicated or you have explained it well.... thank you very much and waiting the cal. Sellection video...
@richardcosta1565
@richardcosta1565 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this education. I enjoyed this video.
@AndreasdeV308
@AndreasdeV308 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the info, will help a lot.
@james1795
@james1795 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative video. And I had no idea of Stevie Wonder having any interest in air gunning. It's good to learn at least one new piece of information every day. Seriously, I do enjoy all of your videos. Keep up the good work.
@philippefrater2000
@philippefrater2000 7 жыл бұрын
The Steevie Wonder Crown! You made my day!!! Thanks! Regards from France, (Yes, we also have guns!)... 🇫🇷🎯🇫🇷 I shoot 22lr, 222 Rem and 243 Winchester but since i watch your channel i've planned to add a nice airgun in my collection, thanks for your time and infos. Philippe.
@sfdsa6063
@sfdsa6063 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation! Thank you! It would be great if you could give an explanation heap rates for different types of bullets at a different step rifling (twist), such as full-bodied pellets JSB Beast 1.05 g / H&N piledriver 1.36 g, depending on the speed. This will allow some shooters understand that there are no bad bullets and barrel there are used different speeds.
@user-jo2kv1js2c
@user-jo2kv1js2c Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much sir for the detailed discussion
@jaimebazaco6260
@jaimebazaco6260 7 жыл бұрын
really interesting and good help. Thank you
@kmom777
@kmom777 2 жыл бұрын
Best videos ever it's like playing airgun university with some of his videos you are the best airgun channel so far with tons of knowledge. Can you do something about slug =pellet swaying and how to create your own tools and then different tests with each different pellet and then slug compare penetration on 100 yards
@oralski
@oralski 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx for the info,, very informative!!
@sean19
@sean19 Жыл бұрын
Just watched this. Bit late to the game but Hay ho the explanation and detail in this video is still great. 👌
@theg-man7868
@theg-man7868 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome in depth analysis Matt, really enjoying this series. Thanks for improving our knowledge and understanding.
@simonmcnicholas
@simonmcnicholas 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always and informative too your the man Matt! Also lol at crown by Stevey Wonder :)
@tomgranberg5651
@tomgranberg5651 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative and correct information my friend. Another thing to consider talking about spin rates is that the actual speed of the spin induced on the pellet is not linear in relationship to it's exit speed. Let's say you have a relatively fast spinrate 1:12 shooting at 650fps. Then you tune your gun to shoot the same pellet at 850fps , the spin rate induced isn't just 30% faster (increase in speed). But spins much faster, I don't have the accurate math in front of me, but it is a exponential curve. Also the faster something spins going trough the air, you have to account for spin drift. As well as Magnus effect, which occurs even if the head of the pellet is aligned with the trajectory, especially in windy condition.
@randallwickus9883
@randallwickus9883 4 жыл бұрын
Great information! Thanks!
@donrsanders4772
@donrsanders4772 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, thanks for what you do. I am really thankful for the info you put out here and the entertainment I get watching you hunt. I bought my first PCP last April. Bought it from the same guy I bought my 1st air rifle from, 1st was an HW 97K 20cal. I moved up to an HW100, 22 cal. It is the most amazing gun I have ever owned or shot. I have had some excellent training and instructors over the years and done a bit of shooting. Question is can the HW 100 have the hammer adjusted to prevent the rebound and save air and be more consistant? Thanks for your time, Don sanders ,
@stolen630
@stolen630 4 жыл бұрын
Well instead of seeing guns, barrels, bullets, pellets and being awww.. Its much satisfactory to learn about some technical terms involved in it... 👌nice video
@sosumokomutonkho5643
@sosumokomutonkho5643 5 жыл бұрын
thanks , very informative video.
@carsmax
@carsmax 7 жыл бұрын
you do a great jobb! please continue !!!!!!!!!!
@iandixon8587
@iandixon8587 7 жыл бұрын
Great video Matt, really interesting. You mentioned the fact that the skirted pellet design is around a 100 years old and was originally made for smooth bore barrels! I have been saying for a long time that as we see airgun design becoming more and more sophisticated nothing seems to have changed in pellet design! Can't help thinking that there is enormous room for improvement in this area of our sport.
@AirArmsHuntingSA
@AirArmsHuntingSA 7 жыл бұрын
+Ian Dixon Agreed! Pellets have horrible BCs!
@juliusday419
@juliusday419 7 жыл бұрын
Great video,thank you!
@jaywhitney789
@jaywhitney789 5 жыл бұрын
Great info Matt only yiu could explain that 👊
@billiebleach7889
@billiebleach7889 7 жыл бұрын
JA...that was complicated. Especially the JA cracked me up 😂😂😂😂
@slowturtle6745
@slowturtle6745 7 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@JM10344
@JM10344 3 ай бұрын
Hi Matt, would ever consider doing a start to finish set of video like this on center fire and rim fire cartridges. Teach us about Throat's, neck, free boar ???, carbon rings, ojive...ect average pressure. You brought us great info on dynamic/ bolistics. Can you do the same for center fire. Everyone just shoots and teaches us many things, but I want the nerdy stuff. Thank you
@leandrobaluyotiii8193
@leandrobaluyotiii8193 6 жыл бұрын
its nice to know bro. please make another one.
@ghazialphagaming8289
@ghazialphagaming8289 6 жыл бұрын
Nice informative video
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 3 жыл бұрын
3: 29, Ok, I got it. A bullet is like a Corvair- unsafe at any speed unless you know full well it's going to roll. HA! Thanks for the great information, Matt, presented plainly and in order.
@jonykakaut2302
@jonykakaut2302 3 жыл бұрын
Sir please make h video on defects of a barrel (inside barrel) like ring, Bulge,bent, chromium plating flaking off etc
@phishitaac
@phishitaac 7 жыл бұрын
great vid
@benjaminvanteunenbroek8369
@benjaminvanteunenbroek8369 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt very informative video! Not to many videos on the subject. Why didn't you mention polygonal barrels these are my favourite.
@TylerJames-gf8ms
@TylerJames-gf8ms 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have question in regards to twist rate. I have an FX Royale .22 and an Impact on the way in .177. What are the twist rate for these rifles? I'm not sure what to input into the StrelokPro App. Thanks!
@Mirkuzzo636
@Mirkuzzo636 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, I love your videos that you post on youtube. I have seen the entire playlist of ballistic 101. I have a question to ask, since I have not found anything specific about it on internet. The pitch of rifling is ok, but I wanted to know the difference between more or less grooves. For a PCP, how many grooves are suitable and how much do they affect the bullet, do they have different behaviors on slug balls and pellets? I was intrigued about the difference between 6 grooves and 12 grooves. Thanks a lot in advance and congratulations again for your videos and valuable advice. :)
@yorkshirepud6676
@yorkshirepud6676 7 жыл бұрын
Very Very interesting Thank You
@bogdanlacatus3883
@bogdanlacatus3883 7 жыл бұрын
great video
@angelrbw1
@angelrbw1 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, nice video! very helpful. I have a question, does it make a big difference in POI when using a ballistic calculator if you give an incorrect twist rate? I have a FX Royale 5.5mm and use Strelok Pro, however I don't know the twist rate and neither the direction of twist . Do you know this information? thanks
@kevinjones2088
@kevinjones2088 7 жыл бұрын
And i would like to see a video talking about decently priced scopes that are cheaper but work just as well as some expensive ones and what to look for when wanting to get one that is cheaper but looking for high end quality.
@lookman7047
@lookman7047 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have a question regarding pellet seating in pcp rifles. Does the pellet seat in a "loading" section or fully inserted into the rifling? Thanks.
@bryangorringe4273
@bryangorringe4273 7 жыл бұрын
great vid learnt alot. you should come and hunt in Zimbabwe
@makerofmanythings8447
@makerofmanythings8447 3 жыл бұрын
Is the barrel on a Hatsan hercules bully. 25cal any good? And do you know what the twist rate is? VERY INFORMATIVE VIDEO. GREAT JOB.
@chrisfigueroa3361
@chrisfigueroa3361 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt your the man
@lilchirp4846
@lilchirp4846 3 жыл бұрын
would be interesting to experiment with barrels that have tiny vent holes some distance before the crown or before the pellet exits the barrel..
@luissandoval4093
@luissandoval4093 3 жыл бұрын
very good! What about the slugs for airguns? Do you think they are better since the perform like fire ammo?
@boucher1086
@boucher1086 7 жыл бұрын
Hello I'm buying a bs a r10 12 fp I'm in 2 minds over se carbine vs full length barrle is the a disadvantage over the shorter barrle when shooting + 50 yards hope to hear from you soon # love the utube chanel loads of help
@johnnyvonline1862
@johnnyvonline1862 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more content like this out of Airgun channels. Just sayin
@michaelhunter3471
@michaelhunter3471 6 жыл бұрын
Hello great vid it is good to see someone who knows there stuff, I have a .177 BSA R10 MK2 at 20.1 fpe with H&N Baracuda 10.65 Grain pellets. I have tried a lot of different pellets to get a good group but the best i have been able to get is 20-25mm at 40m, I have even tried heaver pellets 15gr out to nearly 17gr to get more stable flight. I know my pressure is good as H&N Sniper Magnum pellets only differ 2 to 3 ft/s so I was thinking of putting a new barrel on my BSA could you recommend a barrel length and twist for for my .177. Thanks
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom 7 жыл бұрын
I know for BP shooting we use the Greenhill formula to calc the idea twist for a given round, does that apply to air rifles as well?
@18owennick
@18owennick 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man 💪🏻
@RolandDerUnverbesserliche
@RolandDerUnverbesserliche 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! Also, a smooth barrel will make it easier for the pellet to pick up velocity, especially if the lubing is right, according to the technology used. A springer tends to have more of the problem of deforming the pellet inside of the barrel, but at the muzzle the pressure behind the pellet is low, and it is more silent, and also does not tend to ruin the accuracy there.. There is also the aspect, that you should not push a pure lead pellet too far beyond its limits. Generally, about 240m/s or 800fps, starts to become more and more questionable for soft lead bullets. You'll need a harder bullet coating, if you want to go beyond. PCPs, which tend to cool down the propellant as it is released, can go some faster without causing the problem. Springers and Gas-Rams should stay lower, to avoid these problems. So, a good barrel should use a good part of its length with about constant pressure behind the Projectile, to accelerate it.. at first linearly, then exponentially slowly entering the correct twist, from the very beginning (rifling)... Next Aspect: Also, every bit of shape change of the Projectile matters very much. You'll need to experiment with conventional and polygonal rifling... Next Aspect: And then, the pressure behind the Projectile should drop off fast enough when approaching the muzzle. Next Aspect: In the ideal case, the lubing will also avoid the lead-contamination of the barrel, and instead make it more clean with each shot..
@aroeirasnipersniper6725
@aroeirasnipersniper6725 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, how are you!! I live in Brazil and I would like to know a lot of your information about who manufactures fx guns?
@Smoke-is7tq
@Smoke-is7tq 5 жыл бұрын
thank you
@chientranvan2207
@chientranvan2207 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@kevinjones2088
@kevinjones2088 7 жыл бұрын
good video matt when you do the next video can you also include witch you would use to shoot what kind of animal. For example 177 for sqerells , birds , and rabbits. what size you can shoot an animal as small as a bird to up to a deer or turkey. If that all makes sense. Thanks happy thanksgiving to you and your family.
@carsmax
@carsmax 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt. what about you shooting a pellet in a complete lands and grove less barrel? like an air rifle for round lead projectiles we had in the old East Germany?? I did it at a Hänel 301 in .177 cal and it does it well at 30 yds. but just at 550 fps!!
@luisvazquez3703
@luisvazquez3703 7 жыл бұрын
thanks good info
@Ferdinand78gu
@Ferdinand78gu 4 жыл бұрын
Hello man, great channel and great video!. I have some doubts with the Twist Rate and the Strelok Pro App. I have a FX Impact MKII PP, I am using a .22 STX Liner A 600mm, with a Twist Rate of 1:16 (according to the FX official rates for Smooth Twist X barrels). I hope you can help me. What number do I put in Twistt Rate (inches) in the Strelok App?. How do I find that number from the 1:X relationship?. How does that translate to inches?. So I learn to find it when I change size or caliber barrel. Is it Right or Left Hand Twist? Thank you very much and greetings from Spain.
@felixv2432
@felixv2432 3 жыл бұрын
For instance l use a an FX smooth twist and he mention from the video usually all the groove runs till the end of the barrel, now my question is, what if l use a choke at the end of the groove (twist) to avoid escaping the air from the barrel
@bahubalbaba7886
@bahubalbaba7886 Жыл бұрын
You are doing good Professor 😮Matt😅.
@henrysilos7343
@henrysilos7343 Жыл бұрын
Matt, which do you prefer from a lothar Walter barrel, polygon or stainless?, Thank you
@jjbb8321
@jjbb8321 7 жыл бұрын
good video
@shaikbhai2247
@shaikbhai2247 6 жыл бұрын
Good video
@dingachawngthu1091
@dingachawngthu1091 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me what is the barrel hole size ang grooves size in .22 and air rifle
@fishmaniachannel
@fishmaniachannel 3 жыл бұрын
Nice info sir thxxxx♥️♥️♥️♥️
@visionarytv3773
@visionarytv3773 6 жыл бұрын
Very good defined
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